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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#101 Post by Jayson Cohen » September 24th, 2019, 3:26 pm

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Thanks Jayson. Is the '18 CT more on the black-fruited end of the spectrum or is it more red-fruited? I'm considering buying a case of it for a family function early next year, but would have to buy blind. We are serving fish as one of the food options, so that is a concern.
I would call it purplish-red fruit and floral. Coudert’s vines border MaV and so there is a textural quality that is very important that I tend to associate with the manganese-rich igneous soil of that side of Fleurie.

I honestly cannot predict a fish match.

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#102 Post by Justin S » September 25th, 2019, 5:59 am

Thanks Jayson. Some have said CT has a bit of Rhône quality to it which also turned me off fish.
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#103 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » September 25th, 2019, 6:03 am

What kind of fish?

I often enjoy Beaujolais with grilled salmon or pan seared tuna. Preferably Beaujolais from the more classic years, like 2014.

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#104 Post by joz€f p1nxten » September 25th, 2019, 6:09 am

Bought 3 cases each of the normal and cuvée tardive when visiting in August, at Roilette. Really good wines, and quite approachable young compared to the other one we visited, Daniel Bouland. the normal one was 10 EUR a bottle all-in, that's really a no brainer.

Also bought a couple of mags of the 2017 Griffe to keep, but I am looking to drink them between 5 and 10 years, and the Griffe seemed to warrant longer cellaring.
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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#105 Post by Justin S » September 25th, 2019, 6:12 am

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What kind of fish?

I often enjoy Beaujolais with grilled salmon or pan seared tuna. Preferably Beaujolais from the more classic years, like 2014.
Grilled Halibut with mushroom risotto. Budget was $20 / bottle or less and I was able to find some of the Cuvee Tardive for that. My favorites like Thivin and Lapierre are closer to $30 unfortunately.

We will also have a chardonnay available, but people will be expecting a red. Maybe Sancerre Rouge is another possibility.
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#106 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » October 24th, 2019, 10:37 am

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Aside from the Bouland Delys cuvee, the Thivin is the WOTV for me.
Dutraive's 2017 Champagne is up there for me! And the Louis-Claude Desvignes Impenitents.
So I had a terrible bottle of Dutraive Champagne a few weeks back. Really volatile and ended up being undrinkable for us. Wasn't at all like I remember Dutraive wines of the past. I missed the 2016s but my last visit there tasted the 2014s out of bottle and 2015s out of cask and they were excellent. Really surprised me as this wasn't an off bottle situation but a problem with the wine situation. This passed through the three-tier system directly to me during the fall of last year.

Desvignes doesn't get the love it deserves, IMO. That reminds me to open a bottle of 2005 Javernières soon.
I opened a bottle a couple of months ago - you probably saw the note on WD. Timing seemed good to me.

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#107 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » October 24th, 2019, 10:50 am

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Unlike Bordeaux, Napa and Rhône, a bit more ripeness in Chinon and Beaujolais can be nice. While you had to be selective in 2015, as in 2009, there were some major winners. The 2017 vintage, for my palate, has been a hit on every wine that I have tried. Thanks, William, looking forward to trying some 2018s.
Whose work did you best like in 2015, Robert? Have you dabbled in Roilette's Griffe du Marquis? Impressions?

I'm also a Thivin devotée; I've brought in some 17 Zacharrie, but you've reminded me to find some of the regular CdB.

Re: Bouland Delys, I've only tasted it way too young and couldn't figure out what was going on. Glad to see a favorable response.

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#108 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » October 24th, 2019, 5:27 pm

IMHO, the major winner in 2015 was Thivin. I like Roilette Cuvee Tardive very much as well. I have not tried the Griffe du Marquis, but have some. Need to pop soon for $hit$ and giggles. I like that cuvee. Have every year since its first, 2009. I bet 2017 will be killer.

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#109 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » October 25th, 2019, 2:43 pm

I just rummaged around in my crawl space for an hour, looking for - among other things - my 2011 Griffe, so I could try one. I found everything else, but the Griffe will be an adventure for another day. Will report back if my bottles ever heave into view.

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#110 Post by Jayson Cohen » November 19th, 2019, 6:16 pm

I reloaded on 2017 Griffe after tasting last week. Now up to 7 bottles, which might be overkill. Then again, maybe not. Stunning.

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#111 Post by David_K » November 20th, 2019, 6:27 am

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I reloaded on 2017 Griffe after tasting last week. Now up to 7 bottles, which might be overkill. Then again, maybe not. Stunning.
I haven't seen any offers on this yet. Was it just recently released?
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#112 Post by Jayson Cohen » November 20th, 2019, 7:34 am

David_K wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 6:27 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
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I reloaded on 2017 Griffe after tasting last week. Now up to 7 bottles, which might be overkill. Then again, maybe not. Stunning.
I haven't seen any offers on this yet. Was it just recently released?
A couple months ago. Check W-S.

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#113 Post by Jonathan Loesberg » November 20th, 2019, 8:05 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 7:34 am
David_K wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 6:27 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 6:16 pm
I reloaded on 2017 Griffe after tasting last week. Now up to 7 bottles, which might be overkill. Then again, maybe not. Stunning.
I haven't seen any offers on this yet. Was it just recently released?
A couple months ago. Check W-S.
Handfuls of bottles available around NY. After our tasting in NY, I ordered a bunch. Get them while you can.

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#114 Post by Michae1 P0wers » November 20th, 2019, 8:40 am

Recently ordered some 2014 Thivin Brouilly Reverdon I'd found online. Opened it and thought it was great, ordered more. Only later realized it was actually the 2017. Apparently they'd substituted the vintage. In any case, really excellent wine. Expect the CdB is even better.

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#115 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 20th, 2019, 9:18 am

Love this bottling, have every vintage from 09-16. Has never been that hard to source, but now you guys got me hustling for the 17. The Cuvée Tardive is fantastic.

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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#116 Post by Alan Rath » December 6th, 2019, 8:34 am

William Kelley wrote:
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Interesting insights William, thanks. Not a fan of most 15s but I've had some decent 16s, just bought a case of Vissoux Brouilly Pierreux....and I rarely buy a case of anything. Plenty rich and textural IMHO. Nice to know about keeping an eye out for the 17s. 18 sounds depressing, which suggests the broader market will probably love it.

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The 2017 Coeur de Vendanges is the Vissoux wine I wouldn't miss. Ample, satiny and succulent, it's just immensely pleasurable. For me, more enjoyable than most cru Beaujolais that year.
Just had this, really nice wine. Love the darker, meatier style, and particularly the absence of carbonic bubble gum notes, which aren't my favorite. Now I need to explore some of the other cuvees this vintage.
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#117 Post by David_K » January 6th, 2020, 6:06 pm

William Kelley wrote:
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Anyone tried Foillard's Cuvee Corcelette yet? I'm still waiting on mine to arrive.
Yes, it's very nice! I prefer it to the 2016; whereas I prefer the 2016 Côte du Py to the 2017, at least for the time being. Bought both vintages for my own cellar.
Just getting around to tasting this now. My note:
  • 2017 Jean Foillard Morgon Cuvée Corcelette - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (1/6/2020)
    Ah, Foillard. The curse of high expectations. This was good - very good even - but when I don't get magic, I end up disappointed. With that out of the way, I don't mean to exaggerate. This is a very good Morgon. Fairly fleshy and ripe, more so than other 2017 Bojos I've had. Lacking a little in aromatic interest and that "it" factor. Nevertheless this improved mightily on the second night, with the fruit taking a backseat to the minerals. While not profound now, I'm not unhappy to have a few more in the cellar. (90 pts.)
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#118 Post by Carl Steefel » January 6th, 2020, 9:06 pm

2017 Lapierre Morgon: Layered, even nuanced wine for its rich style, although it turns a bit more monolithic in its ripeness with time in the glass. Not my personal favorite Lapierre (I would place below 2015), although it would be hard to deny the quality of the vineyards and winemaking here (given the vintage)...

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#119 Post by Alan Rath » January 10th, 2020, 6:15 pm

2017 Domaine du Vissoux / Pierre-Marie Chermette Moulin-à-Vent Les Trois Roches - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Moulin-à-Vent (1/10/2020)
Tasty, medium body, strawberry/raspberry dominated fruit, a bit of warmth and sweetness from the vintage, pretty decent balance, with some fine, slightly grippy tannins. A nice, reasonably tasty quaff, but I was more impressed with the Coeur de Vendange, with its darker, more brooding profile. (88 pts.)
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