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#1 Post by Jeremy Holmes » January 11th, 2019, 1:29 pm

This was steely, man.

  • 2013 Bouchard Père et Fils Corton-Charlemagne - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru (1/11/2019)
    Has such a steely spine. There are some lactic, creamy elements and pure white peach fruit. You get some preserved lemon and aniseed too. It is deep, concentrated and linear, possessing outstanding length. Still quite youthful but showing enough to be most pleasurable today.
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#2 Post by Alan Rath » January 11th, 2019, 1:47 pm

Is there gas in the car?
I'm just one lost soul, swimming in a fish bowl, year after year

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#3 Post by R. Frankel » January 11th, 2019, 2:41 pm

Just by chance you crossed a diamond with a pearl.
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#4 Post by PHuff » January 11th, 2019, 2:51 pm

Alan Rath wrote:
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Is there gas in the car?
I think the people down the hall know who we are.......
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#5 Post by Anton D » January 11th, 2019, 2:51 pm

Jeremy Holmes wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 1:29 pm
This was steely, man.

  • 2013 Bouchard Père et Fils Corton-Charlemagne - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru (1/11/2019)
    Has such a steely spine. There are some lactic, creamy elements and pure white peach fruit. You get some preserved lemon and aniseed too. It is deep, concentrated and linear, possessing outstanding length. Still quite youthful but showing enough to be most pleasurable today.
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I heard the stuff was laced with kerosene.
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#6 Post by Jud Reis » January 11th, 2019, 3:02 pm

But yours was kitchen clean

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#7 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 11th, 2019, 5:59 pm

Alan Rath wrote:
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Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there’s gas in the car.

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#8 Post by Doug Lee » January 12th, 2019, 2:53 pm

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#9 Post by Merrill Lindquist » January 12th, 2019, 3:02 pm

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#10 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 12th, 2019, 3:39 pm

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#11 Post by Nate Simon » January 12th, 2019, 3:45 pm

White Burgundy and progressive jazz/rock are dead at retail.

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#12 Post by johngonzales » January 12th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Clean this mess up else we’ll all end up in jail.

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#13 Post by Steve Brickley » January 12th, 2019, 10:02 pm

I think the people down the hall know who you are.
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#14 Post by John A Hunt » January 17th, 2019, 5:44 am

Now I am reelin' in the years since it was released

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#15 Post by c fu » January 17th, 2019, 7:54 am

I don’t know what’s going on here.
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#16 Post by Joshua Kates » January 17th, 2019, 8:15 am

c fu wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 7:54 am
I don’t know what’s going on here.
Allusions to the Steely Dan song as the same name as the post; I guess you have to be old(er) for this one.

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#17 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 17th, 2019, 9:04 am

John A Hunt wrote:
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Now I am reelin' in the years since it was released
Mash up. Hmmmmm.

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#18 Post by Alan Rath » January 17th, 2019, 9:25 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 5:59 pm
Alan Rath wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 1:47 pm
Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there’s gas in the car.
This is my wife and I's routine patter before we head out on any kind of longer trip.
I'm just one lost soul, swimming in a fish bowl, year after year

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#19 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 17th, 2019, 9:43 am

Alan Rath wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 9:25 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 5:59 pm
Alan Rath wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 1:47 pm
Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there’s gas in the car.
This is my wife and I's routine patter before we head out on any kind of longer trip.
😀 Do you sing it?

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#20 Post by Merrill Lindquist » January 17th, 2019, 9:56 am

This life can be very strange...some things will never change....
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#21 Post by Mark Y » January 17th, 2019, 9:59 am

I’m missing all of the inside jokes here.
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#22 Post by Matthew King » January 17th, 2019, 10:04 am

Neither here nor there, but in high school I saw whiz guitarist Larry Carlton (who plays on the Steely Dan track) do his instrumental version of "Kid Charlemagne" at a beloved but defunct L.A jazz club called The Baked Potato.

Made quite an impression on a young, ready-to-be-molded mind.
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#23 Post by Merrill Lindquist » January 17th, 2019, 10:12 am

Mark Y wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 9:59 am
I’m missing all of the inside jokes here.
Yeah, but is there gas in the car?
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#24 Post by Alan Rath » January 17th, 2019, 10:18 am

Mark Y wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 9:59 am
I’m missing all of the inside jokes here.
OK, for all the wet-behind-the-ears young 'uns here who think music started with Kanye West, here ya go:

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#25 Post by Alan Rath » January 17th, 2019, 10:19 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 9:43 am
Alan Rath wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 9:25 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 5:59 pm

Yes, there’s gas in the car.
This is my wife and I's routine patter before we head out on any kind of longer trip.
😀 Do you sing it?
I've tried, but she just rolls her eyes...
I'm just one lost soul, swimming in a fish bowl, year after year

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#26 Post by Jeremy Holmes » January 17th, 2019, 6:17 pm

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#27 Post by Merrill Lindquist » January 17th, 2019, 8:56 pm

OK, ok, Jeremy. But is there gas in the car?
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#28 Post by Jeremy Holmes » January 18th, 2019, 1:46 am

Yes there's gas in the car
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#29 Post by mark rudner » January 18th, 2019, 7:18 am

why does everyone stop and stare at my technicolor motorhome?

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#30 Post by Jürgen Steinke » January 18th, 2019, 8:10 am

As a German guy who speaks barely English I didn't understand a word until the connection to Steely Dan was mentioned. Meanwhile I thought everybody is drunk or I lost the last bit of my senses.

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#31 Post by robert creth » January 18th, 2019, 8:41 am

Jürgen Steinke wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 8:10 am
As a German guy who speaks barely English I didn't understand a word until the connection to Steely Dan was mentioned. Meanwhile I thought everybody is drunk or I lost the last bit of my senses.
The man is wise.

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#32 Post by johngonzales » January 18th, 2019, 1:19 pm

Matthew King wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 10:04 am
Neither here nor there, but in high school I saw whiz guitarist Larry Carlton (who plays on the Steely Dan track) do his instrumental version of "Kid Charlemagne" at a beloved but defunct L.A jazz club called The Baked Potato.

Made quite an impression on a young, ready-to-be-molded mind.
As Twain said: “Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated”
The Baked Potato lives!!
https://www.thebakedpotato.com/events-calendar/
I don’t recall it ever closing.
If only we could get the Jazz Bakery back, or Atlas supper club. Too many defunct jazz spots.

Larry Carlton recorded one of his live albums there. I love his solo on Kid Charlemagne. It just kind of rambles and interestingly just kind of fades out at the end. I’ve actually see no him play with Steely Dan three times now. Once during an L.A. performance of the Royal Scam album, once when Herrington (who is a great technical guitarist but doesn’t have the “feel” of L.C.), and once at the Classic West show at Dodger Stadium which Becker missed and never returned. God bless his soul, but Carlton and Herrington on guitar was actually better than most recent Steely shows.

I’ve always appreciated that there’s a solid crossover between the wine board crowd and Steely fandom. Most fans know that the song was based on Owsley “Bear” Stanley renowned LSD designer and manufacturer. His birthday is tomorrow.
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#33 Post by Dave McIsaac » January 18th, 2019, 1:20 pm

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#34 Post by T. Melloni » January 18th, 2019, 1:23 pm

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#35 Post by Matthew King » January 18th, 2019, 1:51 pm

johngonzales wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 1:19 pm
Matthew King wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 10:04 am
Neither here nor there, but in high school I saw whiz guitarist Larry Carlton (who plays on the Steely Dan track) do his instrumental version of "Kid Charlemagne" at a beloved but defunct L.A jazz club called The Baked Potato.

Made quite an impression on a young, ready-to-be-molded mind.
As Twain said: “Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated”
The Baked Potato lives!!
https://www.thebakedpotato.com/events-calendar/
I don’t recall it ever closing.
If only we could get the Jazz Bakery back, or Atlas supper club. Too many defunct jazz spots.

Larry Carlton recorded one of his live albums there. I love his solo on Kid Charlemagne. It just kind of rambles and interestingly just kind of fades out at the end. I’ve actually see no him play with Steely Dan three times now. Once during an L.A. performance of the Royal Scam album, once when Herrington (who is a great technical guitarist but doesn’t have the “feel” of L.C.), and once at the Classic West show at Dodger Stadium which Becker missed and never returned. God bless his soul, but Carlton and Herrington on guitar was actually better than most recent Steely shows.

I’ve always appreciated that there’s a solid crossover between the wine board crowd and Steely fandom. Most fans know that the song was based on Owsley “Bear” Stanley renowned LSD designer and manufacturer. His birthday is tomorrow.
Duh. Of course you are right. Brain blip. Was thinking of that other Valley club .. The Palomino.

Steely Dan is not to everyone”s taste but I love the cool cerebral quality playing off the funky/swing notes. Like many idiosyncratic wines I suppose. [cheers.gif]
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#36 Post by Mark C » January 18th, 2019, 6:58 pm

Owsley. Oh, dear me.
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#37 Post by John A Hunt » February 10th, 2019, 10:07 am

This thread is killing me.

Clicking on Alan's link almost a month ago and listening to Kid Charlemagne for the first time in many, many years has put my brain into Top-40 "Heavy repeat" since.

No more than two hours goes by, and I come in at the "If by chance you crossed a diamond with a pearl..."

How do I make it stop?

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#38 Post by Matthew King » February 10th, 2019, 10:23 am

Listen to “Hey Nineteen” if you want to make it stop. [highfive.gif]
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#39 Post by johngonzales » February 10th, 2019, 10:27 am

John A Hunt wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 10:07 am

No more than two hours goes by, and I come in at the "If by chance you crossed a diamond with a pearl..."

How do I make it stop?
Micro-dose?

Steely Dan is doing a 9-10 show residency at the Venetian this spring. Becker is gone, but that’s a great setting to see them in. I went last year.

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#40 Post by Alan Rath » February 10th, 2019, 10:40 am

Matthew King wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 10:23 am
Listen to “Hey Nineteen” if you want to make it stop. [highfive.gif]
Better, try Baylon Sisters. Listen carefully to the just-out-of sync displaced drum rhythm, the musicianship, the lyrics. Then watch the Grammies tonight, and shed a tear for what has become of "music".

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#41 Post by johngonzales » February 10th, 2019, 10:54 am

I heard “Deacon Blues” on The Bridge last night. What a fantastic song. If “Hey Nineteen” is the bottom for Steely Dan, that’s actually praise.

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#42 Post by alan weinberg » February 10th, 2019, 10:57 am

hate to thread drift here, but nice wine.

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#43 Post by Jayson Cohen » February 10th, 2019, 11:16 am

alan weinberg wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 10:57 am
hate to thread drift here, but nice wine.
The best in town. Crossed the diamond with the pearl, then turned it on the world.

Ok, that’s enough.

Bouchard’s CC has been consistently great when I’ve had it, and I haven’t noticed a premox problem but I’m not sure my sample size is large enough to call that. Used to be IME among the best year-to-year bargains in white Burg.

I wonder if all the talk of 2013 white Burgs on the Board will start a broader backfill trend. There are folks here who have the audience to make that happen a bit before I’d selfishly like.

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#44 Post by KenL. » February 10th, 2019, 11:52 am

Kid Charlemagne, written about Owlsey who passed away in 2011 in a car accident in Queensland.
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#45 Post by lleichtman » February 10th, 2019, 3:45 pm

c fu wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 7:54 am
I don’t know what’s going on here.
Steely Dan lyrics since the thread started with Kid Charlemagne a song by Steely Dan.
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