TN: 2012 Alfred Merkelbach Ürziger Würzgarten Riesling Spätlese Urglück

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TN: 2012 Alfred Merkelbach Ürziger Würzgarten Riesling Spätlese Urglück

#1 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 7th, 2019, 5:05 pm

2012 Alfred Merkelbach Ürziger Würzgarten Riesling Spätlese Urglück - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (1/7/2019)
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#2 Post by Dale McClaran » January 7th, 2019, 5:20 pm

Thanks for the note David. This was producer was off my radar but once I saw the prices (or lack there of) I grabbed some of the 16 Urziger Wurzgarten Spat # 6 for $24. Eager to try!
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#3 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 7th, 2019, 5:31 pm

It’s old school
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#4 Post by John Morris » January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm

Urglück?
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#5 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » January 7th, 2019, 9:35 pm

John Morris wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Urglück?
It’s a small parcel within Urziger Wurtzgarten. There’s a small bit on the Skurnik website, but not a lot of information. That said, I second David’s opinion of Merkelbach. They are one of my every year purchases, and the wines are just a joy to drink. As David says, “old school”.

The brothers are late 70s and, from what I understand, without a next generation waiting in the wings.

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#6 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 4:00 am

John Morris wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Urglück?
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#7 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 8th, 2019, 4:21 am

Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 9:35 pm
John Morris wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Urglück?
It’s a small parcel within Urziger Wurtzgarten. There’s a small bit on the Skurnik website, but not a lot of information. That said, I second David’s opinion of Merkelbach. They are one of my every year purchases, and the wines are just a joy to drink. As David says, “old school”.

The brothers are late 70s and, from what I understand, without a next generation waiting in the wings.
Early 80s now I believe. I have heard from multiple good sources that arrangements are in place for disposition of their parcels to a well known local on retirement, but I couldn’t pry out who that is or when it will take place (or if the timing is set) last time I inquired. The details were being held somewhat close to the chest. I expect it to be a bitterweet event.

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#8 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 4:46 am

Yeah, there are strong rumors that there is a plan in place. I have zero concrete information.

Someone in the Selbach family taking it on would make a lot of sense. The Urziger Wurzgarten, Erdener Treppchen & Kinheimer Rosenberg sites represent something that is not covered by the Selbach-Oster portfolio.

That's pure conjecture on my part!
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#9 Post by jcoley3 » January 8th, 2019, 7:52 am

The brothers made the first German Riesling I ever tasted over 20 years ago - a 97 Urzinger Wurzgarten Spatlese. I love their wines.
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#10 Post by David Glasser » January 8th, 2019, 8:07 am

Thanks for the note. Been a while since I’ve had a Merkelbach Urz Wurz. Have to remedy that.

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#11 Post by Pat Martin » January 8th, 2019, 9:20 am

Love Merkelbach. Still working my way through their 2001s.
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#12 Post by Michael Heinrich » January 8th, 2019, 11:24 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 4:00 am
John Morris wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Urglück?
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Actually roughly translates as "primal bliss". Take that Mr. Orc Commander.

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#13 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 11:27 am

Only the Germans could make bliss sound so bad.
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#14 Post by Michael Heinrich » January 8th, 2019, 11:33 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:27 am
Only the Germans could make bliss sound so bad.
Supposed to be funny? How does "bliss" sound any more blissful than "Glück"?

I'm almost tempted to say that only Americans can be so ignorant, but I won't.

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#15 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » January 8th, 2019, 11:38 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 4:21 am
Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 9:35 pm
John Morris wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Urglück?
It’s a small parcel within Urziger Wurtzgarten. There’s a small bit on the Skurnik website, but not a lot of information. That said, I second David’s opinion of Merkelbach. They are one of my every year purchases, and the wines are just a joy to drink. As David says, “old school”.

The brothers are late 70s and, from what I understand, without a next generation waiting in the wings.
Early 80s now I believe. I have heard from multiple good sources that arrangements are in place for disposition of their parcels to a well known local on retirement, but I couldn’t pry out who that is or when it will take place (or if the timing is set) last time I inquired. The details were being held somewhat close to the chest. I expect it to be a bitterweet event.
While it’s great to hear that there is a plan in place (Willi Shafer please?), it will be an extraordinary piece of luck if whoever takes over keeps the style/philosophy of the wines the same. Not trying to be a downer, more along the lines that these wines really are special.
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#16 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 12:01 pm

Michael Heinrich wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:33 am
D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:27 am
Only the Germans could make bliss sound so bad.
Supposed to be funny? How does "bliss" sound any more blissful than "Glück"?

I'm almost tempted to say that only Americans can be so ignorant, but I won't.
Activate your sarcasm detector.
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#17 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 8th, 2019, 1:13 pm

Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:38 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 4:21 am
Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 9:35 pm


It’s a small parcel within Urziger Wurtzgarten. There’s a small bit on the Skurnik website, but not a lot of information. That said, I second David’s opinion of Merkelbach. They are one of my every year purchases, and the wines are just a joy to drink. As David says, “old school”.

The brothers are late 70s and, from what I understand, without a next generation waiting in the wings.
Early 80s now I believe. I have heard from multiple good sources that arrangements are in place for disposition of their parcels to a well known local on retirement, but I couldn’t pry out who that is or when it will take place (or if the timing is set) last time I inquired. The details were being held somewhat close to the chest. I expect it to be a bitterweet event.
While it’s great to hear that there is a plan in place (Willi Shafer please?), it will be an extraordinary piece of luck if whoever takes over keeps the style/philosophy of the wines the same.
I think I said the same thing — would be great if it is Schaefer — and was told it was not.

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#18 Post by Jay Miller » January 8th, 2019, 1:39 pm

Glad to hear about a 2012 drinking well. I've been scared to touch any.
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#19 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Just got home from work, and poured a splash from what was left. Delicious.
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#20 Post by DanielP » January 8th, 2019, 2:35 pm

Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:38 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 4:21 am


Early 80s now I believe. I have heard from multiple good sources that arrangements are in place for disposition of their parcels to a well known local on retirement, but I couldn’t pry out who that is or when it will take place (or if the timing is set) last time I inquired. The details were being held somewhat close to the chest. I expect it to be a bitterweet event.
While it’s great to hear that there is a plan in place (Willi Shafer please?), it will be an extraordinary piece of luck if whoever takes over keeps the style/philosophy of the wines the same.
I think I said the same thing — would be great if it is Schaefer — and was told it was not.
Haven't the Schaefers said that they're not all that interested in growing the estate? Maybe that's just what was suggested by Theise in his catalogs.
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#21 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 8th, 2019, 2:39 pm

It’s not Schaefer.
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#22 Post by DanielP » January 8th, 2019, 3:11 pm

Yep, I just meant to say that I think they would've been among the least likely possibilities. Any other likely candidates besides the Selbachs?
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#23 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 8th, 2019, 4:41 pm

DanielPaik wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Jayson Cohen wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:38 am


While it’s great to hear that there is a plan in place (Willi Shafer please?), it will be an extraordinary piece of luck if whoever takes over keeps the style/philosophy of the wines the same.
I think I said the same thing — would be great if it is Schaefer — and was told it was not.
Haven't the Schaefers said that they're not all that interested in growing the estate? Maybe that's just what was suggested by Theise in his catalogs.
I think that’s right.

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#24 Post by Russell Faulkner » January 8th, 2019, 7:28 pm

Obvious bets are Molitor, Loosen or Lieser.

This producer was never imported to the Uk in any quantity, I’ve only tried a couple of bottles.

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#25 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » January 8th, 2019, 8:17 pm

DanielPaik wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 3:11 pm
Yep, I just meant to say that I think they would've been among the least likely possibilities. Any other likely candidates besides the Selbachs?
Sorry, the Shaefer reference was simply meant as wishful thinking that the Merkelbach parcels end up in good hands. Although as much as I like Shaefer’s wines they are, IMHO, somewhat bigger/denser wines than Merkelbach. Jason’s post was the first I had heard anything of where the estate would end up.

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#26 Post by Dale McClaran » January 9th, 2019, 9:56 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 7th, 2019, 5:31 pm
It’s old school

I believe it was this producer in which i was told that they typically are one step lower on the pradikat scale, so this Spat would drink like most producers Kabinett, is this generally true?
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#27 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 9th, 2019, 10:02 am

This wine felt and drank like a spätlese. There was a time when I would have said a step lower was an OK guideline, but these days I think half a step may be about as far as I am willing to go. It's also vintage dependent. Merkelbach does not do much of the hyper-sorting for pradikat, so if a year has uneven ripeness their wines can feel lighter. 2012 was pretty homogeneous for them, so there wasn't much in the way of dilution. A parcel got picked, and made a wine that tasted they way it was labeled. 2015 is another year that plays to the Merkelbach's favor.
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#28 Post by Dale McClaran » January 9th, 2019, 10:05 am

Thanks for the detailed response David, really looking forward to trying one, just need to get down to Vinopolis in PDX to grab em.
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#29 Post by Daniel McIntosh » January 10th, 2019, 6:50 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 12:01 pm
Michael Heinrich wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:33 am
D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 11:27 am
Only the Germans could make bliss sound so bad.
Supposed to be funny? How does "bliss" sound any more blissful than "Glück"?

I'm almost tempted to say that only Americans can be so ignorant, but I won't.
Activate your sarcasm detector.
"Sarcasm" as defined by Merriam-Webster: 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual.
So maybe Michael did detect sarcasm and reacted accordingly. I did not detect sarcasm. Just a little joke about the German language.
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#30 Post by Fred Bower » January 10th, 2019, 8:22 am

If it wasn't for Urgluck, Wurzgarten would have no luck at all.

Just had to say it.

I have been hoarding some of these since purchase. I may pull one to have a taste based upon this.

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