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I've Never Had A Chianti That Excited Me

#1 Post by Michael S. Monie » December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm

And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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#2 Post by Marcus Dean » December 7th, 2018, 4:12 pm

Stop drinking them young

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#3 Post by Josh Grossman » December 7th, 2018, 4:32 pm

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
In the same boat. Brunellos are some of my favorite wines though but have had almost the exact opposite experience with those. It seems that I should like Sangiovese from other areas in Tuscany that have a similar treatment. Never have though.

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#4 Post by Jim Stewart » December 7th, 2018, 4:44 pm

I don't drink a lot of Chianti, but, when I do, I prefer:

Castello di Monsanto Chianti Classico Riserva

Rocca delle Macie Chianti Classico Riserva
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#5 Post by Frederico L e e » December 7th, 2018, 4:57 pm

Fontodi Vigna del Sorbo or Flaccianello. The later is technically not a Chianti but is 100% made with Sangiovese in Tuscany.

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#6 Post by Kris Patten » December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
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#7 Post by Mattstolz » December 7th, 2018, 5:27 pm

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
what are the ones you've liked? what have you tried and been disappointed in?

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#8 Post by Jayson Cohen » December 7th, 2018, 5:59 pm

Find a 1999 Vigna del Sorbo. If you don’t like that, then you don’t like even among the most densely fruited Chianti near maturity.

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#9 Post by Travis Fantz » December 7th, 2018, 6:24 pm

Le Trame Chianti Classico.
I have found this to be outstanding.
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#10 Post by Michael S. Monie » December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
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#11 Post by Dale Williams » December 7th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm

Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
Pergole Torte could of course be Chianti Classico if they chose to claim the appellation.

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#12 Post by B. Buzzini » December 7th, 2018, 8:03 pm

Felsina Rancia?
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#13 Post by Jayson Cohen » December 7th, 2018, 8:09 pm

Dale Williams wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 7:35 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm

Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
Pergole Torte could of course be Chianti Classico if they chose to claim the appellation.
This. Montevertine chooses not to use the designation.

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#14 Post by Rory K. » December 7th, 2018, 8:15 pm

+1 for Le Trame by Podere Boncie, stellar wine though I think it may no longer be in the Chianti DOCG, they declassified it I had thought. Rancia is another one, though they need to age a long long time. To be honest, I love Chianti but it's not where I go for the profound. They can be great values, versatile, and terrific wines all around, but not life changing. Still that's a long way for Chianti's quality to go in just a few decades. Despite the improvement in Chianti's quality and reputation, when someone has the best on their hands, they still tend to go the IGT route.
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#15 Post by john stimson » December 7th, 2018, 8:20 pm

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
It's not really fair to compare Bartolo Mascarello Barolo to much of anything.

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#16 Post by Nathan Smyth » December 7th, 2018, 8:39 pm

PARKERIZED Chianti: 2009 Selvapiana Bucerchiale Chianti Rufina Riserva

AFWE Brunello: 2013 Agostino Pieri*


[*Presumably Normale? I don't know whether there's a Riserva in the works any time soon, although it seems like Riserva requirements might ruin the style.]

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#17 Post by Gary York » December 7th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Michael - It might be a problem of expectations. I rarely expect a Chianti to be profound. But that doesn't mean that I don't hope for a lot of depth and complexity. At least in some of the wines. I also think that on the whole Tuscany struggles with value. One wine you might want to consider is the 2015 Castello dei Rampolla Chianti Classico. Retails for $28. I was at the bar the other night and was impressed with the wine as it changed and offered a ton of interesting aspects over an hour or so. The top wines of the region offer profound expressions of Sangiovese. But you have to buy select wines and give them time. Castellare I sodi would be one to consider.
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#18 Post by IlkkaL » December 8th, 2018, 1:04 am

What is profound? For me a wine like Montevertine (sure, not called Chianti but that's what it really is) is a profound expression of the place and the variety (plus some Canaiolo and Colorino) and I do not see a need to compare it to the great wines of other regions and varieties. I personally love what Chianti can offer at its best and most authentic and appreciate it for not being like any other wine. My other favorite wine style is French Syrah and for sure the appeal of a Côte-Rôtie is very different from the appeal of Chianti but I can enjoy both just as much.
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#19 Post by Tom Taylor » December 8th, 2018, 2:23 am

Castell’ In Villa or Felsina Riservas too my list. Either with adequate age can be stunning
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#20 Post by Martin Petersen » December 8th, 2018, 5:36 am

Aged (20+) Rancia, Castell’in Villa or Il Poggio - if those wines are not profound to you just skip Chianti. Montevertine too of course

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#21 Post by Kirk.Grant » December 8th, 2018, 6:32 am

Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
That's a great follow up question and should really help get Michael to the right wine...
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#22 Post by Claus Jeppesen » December 8th, 2018, 6:37 am

Martin Petersen wrote:
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Aged (20+) Rancia, Castell’in Villa or Il Poggio - if those wines are not profound to you just skip Chianti. Montevertine too of course
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#23 Post by Michael S. Monie » December 8th, 2018, 7:04 am

Kirk.Grant wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 6:32 am
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
That's a great follow up question and should really help get Michael to the right wine...
Probably just wanted to know if I had the bona fides to recognize a profound wine if I encountered one.

I've made a list and I'm checking twice.
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#24 Post by Ian Sutton » December 8th, 2018, 7:42 am

Nathan Smyth wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 8:39 pm
PARKERIZED Chianti: 2009 Selvapiana Bucerchiale Chianti Rufina Riserva
I'm surprised by this comment. I would have thought it would have been far too rustic and far less luscious than would fit the bill for the Parker ideal
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#25 Post by Collin Dahl » December 8th, 2018, 7:46 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
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Probably just wanted to know if I had the bona fides to recognize a profound wine if I encountered one.
Maybe. But I bet he was taking the most efficient route to a recommendation. "What else have you liked?" and "What price point do you want to hit?" are two key questions to ask when someone has asked for an open-ended recommendation.
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#26 Post by IlkkaL » December 8th, 2018, 7:50 am

Ian Sutton wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 7:42 am
Nathan Smyth wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 8:39 pm
PARKERIZED Chianti: 2009 Selvapiana Bucerchiale Chianti Rufina Riserva
I'm surprised by this comment. I would have thought it would have been far too rustic and far less luscious than would fit the bill for the Parker ideal
Considering how much I have enjoyed this wine I also find that comment surprising. Surely a Parkerized Chianti would rather be some soft, ripe and dark-fruited wine with 20% French varieties?
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#27 Post by Gary York » December 8th, 2018, 7:52 am

Not that I don't love Montevertine, I do, I buy and sell every bottle I can get and have done a visit to the estate. I just don't consider them Chianti, in many ways they are the anti-Chianti.
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#28 Post by Kirk.Grant » December 8th, 2018, 8:16 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 7:04 am
Kirk.Grant wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 6:32 am
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm


What reds have you had that you find profound?
That's a great follow up question and should really help get Michael to the right wine...
Probably just wanted to know if I had the bona fides to recognize a profound wine if I encountered one.

I've made a list and I'm checking twice.
Oh, I didn't see it as a challenge to your palate or taste in wine...but when I saw your list I thought, "I've never had one as profound as those wines you've listed..."

However, back to your original question...I'd search out a bottle of 2010 Casa Emma Chianti Classico Riserva. While not profound...it's one of the best I've found.
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#29 Post by Keith A k e r s » December 8th, 2018, 8:20 am

IlkkaL wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 7:50 am
Ian Sutton wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 7:42 am
Nathan Smyth wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 8:39 pm
PARKERIZED Chianti: 2009 Selvapiana Bucerchiale Chianti Rufina Riserva
I'm surprised by this comment. I would have thought it would have been far too rustic and far less luscious than would fit the bill for the Parker ideal
Considering how much I have enjoyed this wine I also find that comment surprising. Surely a Parkerized Chianti would rather be some soft, ripe and dark-fruited wine with 20% French varieties?
and slathered in a ton of new french oak. Personally I've never found Bucerchiale in that vein, but ymmv

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#30 Post by Kris Patten » December 8th, 2018, 8:42 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
What reds have you had that you find profound?
Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
Very relevant if you like modern fruit driven wines or earth and acid driven wines, there are so many different styles across Chianti to push you towards a producer or vintage that meets your criteria vs. a bunch of random selections I or others like, but may not be your style.
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#31 Post by Neal.Mollen » December 8th, 2018, 8:46 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:59 pm
Find a 1999 Vigna del Sorbo. If you don’t like that, then you don’t like even among the most densely fruited Chianti near maturity.
Really like this wine. Good example of a 100% sangio beauty.
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#32 Post by Jim Stewart » December 8th, 2018, 8:59 am

Michael,
We visited Castelina in Chianti in 2016 and lucked into a village-wide Chianti Classico three day festival which included dinner with unlimited wines (go to the table with dozens of different bottles, grab one, bring it to your table to be opened, tasted and shared; receive samples of other wines from people at your table and adjacent tables; repeat!), and two afternoons of tasting. I can tell you of the 50+ wines we managed to taste (Regular, Riserva, La Gran Selezione) while many were good, there were maybe only a handful that stood out to me as "ponderable". I did a quick look at USA availability and there is one that is available in at least a couple of places. 2011 Bibbiano Capanino Gran Selezione Chianti Classico. Good luck with you search. -Jim
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#33 Post by alan weinberg » December 8th, 2018, 9:33 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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#34 Post by kyledorsey » December 8th, 2018, 9:49 am

Gary York wrote:
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Not that I don't love Montevertine, I do, I buy and sell every bottle I can get and have done a visit to the estate. I just don't consider them Chianti, in many ways they are the anti-Chianti.
I disagree though this may be a semantic point. I view Montevertine as the most authentic Chianti. They have stuck to their guns through Chianti's various identity crises, producing classic and pure wines from the indigenous varieties of the region. No French varieties, no excess extraction, no bullshit.

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#35 Post by Markus S » December 8th, 2018, 9:54 am

alan weinberg wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 9:33 am
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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#36 Post by Claus Jeppesen » December 8th, 2018, 10:20 am

alan weinberg wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 9:33 am
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:46 pm
And that includes: Classico, Riserva, and Gran Selezione. I'm looking for a Chianti that goes beyond just being very good. I want one that has the potential to be profound. Any suggestions? Thanks.
maybe it’s not for you. Can’t like everything. I hate Zinfandel.
As others have been pointing out:
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#37 Post by M. Taylor » December 8th, 2018, 10:44 am

Have you tried it with liver and some fava bean?

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#38 Post by Mattstolz » December 8th, 2018, 10:56 am

Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm


What reds have you had that you find profound?
Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
Personally, Pergole Torte I still would count as a profound chianti, since it basically is in everything but legal name. also, i think the question makes sense cuz it points a recc in a certain direction. I agree with trying Fontodis, or Rancia with age. Pergole Torte stands alone but these two are great as well in my book

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#39 Post by Claus Jeppesen » December 8th, 2018, 11:43 am

Mattstolz wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 10:56 am
Michael S. Monie wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 6:25 pm
Kris Patten wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 5:16 pm


What reds have you had that you find profound?
Not sure how it's germane to the question at hand, but: Le Pergole Torte, Quintarelli Amarone, Bartolo Mascarello Barolo.
Personally, Pergole Torte I still would count as a profound chianti, since it basically is in everything but legal name. also, i think the question makes sense cuz it points a recc in a certain direction. I agree with trying Fontodis, or Rancia with age. Pergole Torte stands alone but these two are great as well in my book
But it still makes no sense drinking them young [cheers.gif]
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#40 Post by Eric Ifune » December 8th, 2018, 2:58 pm

The producer I've found that most often is profound is Castello di Ama. Expensive though.

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#41 Post by Mattstolz » December 8th, 2018, 3:08 pm

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 11:43 am
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Personally, Pergole Torte I still would count as a profound chianti, since it basically is in everything but legal name. also, i think the question makes sense cuz it points a recc in a certain direction. I agree with trying Fontodis, or Rancia with age. Pergole Torte stands alone but these two are great as well in my book
But it still makes no sense drinking them young [cheers.gif]
meh... some people like young wines better than old ones. to each their own! I think they each can be fantastic

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#42 Post by Jeff Rosenberg » December 8th, 2018, 4:13 pm

However, back to your original question...I'd search out a bottle of 2010 Casa Emma Chianti Classico Riserva. While not profound...it's one of the best I've found.
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#43 Post by Warren Taranow » December 8th, 2018, 6:27 pm

M. Taylor wrote:
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Have you tried it with liver and some fava bean?

In the novel, the pairing was Amarone.
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Re: I've Never Had A Chianti That Excited Me

#44 Post by Thomas Keim » December 8th, 2018, 6:46 pm

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Michael - It might be a problem of expectations. I rarely expect a Chianti to be profound. But that doesn't mean that I don't hope for a lot of depth and complexity. At least in some of the wines. I also think that on the whole Tuscany struggles with value. One wine you might want to consider is the 2015 Castello dei Rampolla Chianti Classico. Retails for $28. I was at the bar the other night and was impressed with the wine as it changed and offered a ton of interesting aspects over an hour or so. The top wines of the region offer profound expressions of Sangiovese. But you have to buy select wines and give them time. Castellare I sodi would be one to consider.
Totally agree. You are just not going to get fruit jumping out of the glass with a young 'Classico' or 'Riserva', unless you purchase the spoofed up ones. One of the things I love about inexpensive Chianti is the easy drinkability while still retaining a nice acidity. Felsina produces a 'Colle Senesi' Chianti that sees very little oak and is just a charmer every year - never anything profound - but always over delivers -
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#45 Post by Jayson Cohen » December 8th, 2018, 6:52 pm

Thomas Keim wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 6:46 pm
Gary York wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 10:33 pm
Michael - It might be a problem of expectations. I rarely expect a Chianti to be profound. But that doesn't mean that I don't hope for a lot of depth and complexity. At least in some of the wines. I also think that on the whole Tuscany struggles with value. One wine you might want to consider is the 2015 Castello dei Rampolla Chianti Classico. Retails for $28. I was at the bar the other night and was impressed with the wine as it changed and offered a ton of interesting aspects over an hour or so. The top wines of the region offer profound expressions of Sangiovese. But you have to buy select wines and give them time. Castellare I sodi would be one to consider.
Totally agree. You are just not going to get fruit jumping out of the glass with a young 'Classico' or 'Riserva', unless you purchase the spoofed up ones.
Me too. This is why I recommended 1999 Vigna del Sorbo above. Great wine with strong fruit and fairly resolved.

This thread reminds me I should be thinking about opening my own older Chiantis. I have a bunch in the 18-23 year old range that I’ve been leaving alone to age.

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Re: I've Never Had A Chianti That Excited Me

#46 Post by Jonathan H » December 9th, 2018, 9:42 am

Has anyone tasted the 2015 Montevertine Le Pergole Torte?
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#47 Post by Ian Sutton » December 9th, 2018, 10:13 am

Like others, I find plenty to like in Chianti (and some to dislike). I had a lucky introduction, taking a punt on a couple of mature lots at auction, and finding some gems already pre-matured.

Don't expect Brunello (unless the new Gran selezione wines are heading that way) or Vino Nobile. For me Chianti tends to occupy a broad range between those two regional styles. The former richer, the latter more bony.

I'd rather a more even balance of VNdiM and Chianti in my cellar, but Chianti seems easier to get hold of
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#48 Post by Frank Drew » December 9th, 2018, 2:26 pm

Marcus Dean wrote:
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Stop drinking them young
Terrific advice, Marcus: In 2013 I had a bottle of Felsina’s 1988 CCR, and it was one of the most satisfying wines I’ve ever had, from anywhere.

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#49 Post by Claus Jeppesen » December 10th, 2018, 7:07 am

Mattstolz wrote:
December 8th, 2018, 3:08 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
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Personally, Pergole Torte I still would count as a profound chianti, since it basically is in everything but legal name. also, i think the question makes sense cuz it points a recc in a certain direction. I agree with trying Fontodis, or Rancia with age. Pergole Torte stands alone but these two are great as well in my book
But it still makes no sense drinking them young [cheers.gif]
meh... some people like young wines better than old ones. to each their own! I think they each can be fantastic
It was meant for the OP [cheers.gif] Your quote is not complete
The first reply and several other posts in this thread state the obvious answer for him
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Re: I've Never Had A Chianti That Excited Me

#50 Post by Kelly Flynn » December 10th, 2018, 7:45 am

Felsina Rancia, with age. And red sauce. The 1995 is drinking beautifully now.

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