Don Perignon "vintage" without date?

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Don Perignon "vintage" without date?

#1 Post by Jeff Johannsmeyer » December 5th, 2018, 1:44 am

A nice restaurant we were at yesterday had an extensive vertical of Dom Perignon featured in their display Eurocave. One bottle caught my eye as something I hadn't seen. Plain black label stating Vintage, but with no apparent year. What exactly is this?
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#2 Post by Victor Hong » December 5th, 2018, 2:41 am

The restaurant is able to customize upon order, per your special anniversary, graduation, etc.
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#3 Post by Robert M yers » December 5th, 2018, 4:59 am

They hAve undated empty bottles (corked and caged) at my grocery. Those are just for display to let you know you can ask for it. Aren’t the black bottles for P2?

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#4 Post by Jeff Johannsmeyer » December 5th, 2018, 6:03 am

Victor Hong wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 2:41 am
The restaurant is able to customize upon order, per your special anniversary, graduation, etc.
Interesting! And perhaps there's a back label that indicates the vintage inside? Or do we assume its a purchase for the occasion more than the product and it doesn't really matter for the target audience?

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#5 Post by Victor Hong » December 5th, 2018, 6:56 am

Jeff Johannsmeyer wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 6:03 am
Victor Hong wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 2:41 am
The restaurant is able to customize upon order, per your special anniversary, graduation, etc.
Interesting! And perhaps there's a back label that indicates the vintage inside? Or do we assume its a purchase for the occasion more than the product and it doesn't really matter for the target audience?
The latter.
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#6 Post by Rich Brown » December 5th, 2018, 8:29 am

Robert M yers wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 4:59 am
They hAve undated empty bottles (corked and caged) at my grocery. Those are just for display to let you know you can ask for it. Aren’t the black bottles for P2?
That was my thought as well. Probably an empty display bottle (they never have vintages on them that I've seen)

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#7 Post by Ian Dorin » December 5th, 2018, 8:39 am

Rich Brown wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 8:29 am
Robert M yers wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 4:59 am
They hAve undated empty bottles (corked and caged) at my grocery. Those are just for display to let you know you can ask for it. Aren’t the black bottles for P2?
That was my thought as well. Probably an empty display bottle (they never have vintages on them that I've seen)
That's done on purpose too.
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#8 Post by Robert M yers » December 5th, 2018, 8:45 am

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Victor Hong wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 6:56 am
Jeff Johannsmeyer wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 6:03 am
Victor Hong wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 2:41 am
The restaurant is able to customize upon order, per your special anniversary, graduation, etc.
Interesting! And perhaps there's a back label that indicates the vintage inside? Or do we assume its a purchase for the occasion more than the product and it doesn't really matter for the target audience?
The latter.
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#9 Post by Victor Hong » December 5th, 2018, 8:54 am

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#10 Post by c fu » December 5th, 2018, 9:02 am

It’s one sold directly to clubs and restaurants where the clients don’t care about vintages.
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#11 Post by Robert M yers » December 5th, 2018, 9:07 am

So the mystery is coming together

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#12 Post by Jeff Johannsmeyer » December 5th, 2018, 10:22 am

The bottle in question was definitely full (I could see the fill level), so the "event bottle" theory sounds good to me. Since the restaurant is in the hotel we're staying in, I'll ask the sommelier if I get a chance.
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#13 Post by jbray23 » December 5th, 2018, 10:36 am

Well if it’s Don, it’s probably fake!
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#14 Post by c fu » December 5th, 2018, 10:39 am

Jeff Johannsmeyer wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 10:22 am
The bottle in questionwas definitely full (I could see the fill level), so the "event bottle" theory sounds good to me. Sine the restaurant is in the hotel we're staying in, I'll ask the sommelier if I get a chance.
It’s real. It’s just something they do for certain places. I don’t know what the benefit is but it’s done.
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#15 Post by Victor Hong » December 5th, 2018, 10:48 am

Jeff Johannsmeyer wrote:
December 5th, 2018, 10:22 am
The bottle in question was definitely full (I could see the fill level), so the "event bottle" theory sounds good to me. Since the restaurant is in the hotel we're staying in, I'll ask the sommelier if I get a chance.
With just one big bottle in inventory, a restaurant can readily charge more for a better or a specially requested vintage, no matter which it might be. Saves on guesswork. [snort.gif]
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#16 Post by Brad Baker » December 5th, 2018, 6:03 pm

If this is a full, regular 'for sale' DP and not a display bottle, it is a luminous bottle (there is a switch on the bottom that turns the label on and makes it light up/glow). The vintage is on the back label. Meant for night clubs, leaving the vintage off the light up label enables them to save a little money... and still charge more! There are various versions of the luminous bottlings. Some have vintage dates, some don't, and some have more intricate DP shield details than others.
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#17 Post by p@ulbortin » December 5th, 2018, 6:43 pm

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#18 Post by Brad Baker » December 5th, 2018, 6:53 pm

The vintage version variety! They make great night lights for the kids' bedtime.
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#19 Post by Robert M yers » December 5th, 2018, 10:43 pm

A switch on the bottom...like a light switch with a battery?

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#20 Post by Albert_H » December 6th, 2018, 1:22 am

Saw this bottle at a Pavilions yesterday...
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#21 Post by Brad Baker » December 6th, 2018, 3:04 am

Robert M yers wrote:
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A switch on the bottom...like a light switch with a battery?
Yes, the bottles have a small button for a switch (press for on/off) and there is a battery. This all fits into the punt on the bottle bottom.
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