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#1 Post by Anthony Hall » November 28th, 2018, 3:09 am

Dear Board,

I got over enthusiastic when the cellar II auction occurred and bought some "nice" bottles. So far more have been genuine than not with one painful exclusion ( 90 La Tache). Australia's tax laws mean that I keep the balance in NYC. Where can I pay a corkage and have some appropriate food to try some of these wines ? Anyone keen to participate in a "Monday table comes to NY" dinner ? We will be in NYC Jan 7 - 13, 2019.

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#2 Post by YLee » November 28th, 2018, 3:48 am

I am interested. I just need to figure out my schedule. What type of food/cuisines are you interested in doing?
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#3 Post by Victor Hong » November 28th, 2018, 4:45 am

OK. Thank you.

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#4 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » November 28th, 2018, 5:05 am

IMO, restaurants like Peking Duck House are not the proper venue for wines like 90 La Tache and other wines which were purchased at the Cellar II even if not all of them are authentic.
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#5 Post by Paul Jaouen » November 28th, 2018, 5:09 am

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IMO, restaurants like Peking Duck House are not the proper venue for wines like 90 La Tache and other wines which were purchased at the Cellar II even if not all of them are authentic.
It is for Victor. Free wine, no corkage, cheap food that he can doggy bag. What else could he want?
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#6 Post by Victor Hong » November 28th, 2018, 5:28 am

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IMO, restaurants like Peking Duck House are not the proper venue for wines like 90 La Tache and other wines which were purchased at the Cellar II even if not all of them are authentic.
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#7 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » November 28th, 2018, 6:04 am

Victor Hong wrote:
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IMO, restaurants like Peking Duck House are not the proper venue for wines like 90 La Tache and other wines which were purchased at the Cellar II even if not all of them are authentic.
Chinese wine and Chinese food go together.
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#8 Post by Jay Miller » November 28th, 2018, 6:16 am

Really depends on whether you want a high end restaurant with high end corkage, good food with low corkage and no real ambience, something casual. Also whether you're looking at Monday night or Friday night (with the former obviously being easier).

For example Wallflower is a very pleasant West Village restaurant with free corkage on Mondays. You won't leave thinking "Wow, that was one of the best meals I ever had" but the food is good and the ambience is cozy and pleasant.

Bite of Hong Kong has free corkage and top notch Cantonese food.

North Square has $25 corkage and an excellent rack of lamb that is a great red wine match for Bordeaux, Rioja, etc.

A lot of higher end restaurants have a bottle limit but you can try negotiating with them.

I'd be tentatively interested/amused to join you. Some of those old Patriarche wines are really good. I can even bring one to compare ;)
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#9 Post by Jay Miller » November 28th, 2018, 6:18 am

this thread could be useful:

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#10 Post by Jayson Cohen » November 28th, 2018, 6:26 am

Adding to what Jay said. Mondays are corkage free at Racines. Tuesdays at The Milling Room.

Jay is not as big a fan as some of us of Wu’s Wonton King, another good Chinese restaurant with no corkage.

There is also Aba Turkish, very solid food, cheap, and corkage free.

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#11 Post by YLee » November 28th, 2018, 6:35 am

Once we get some ideas of cuisine, atmosphere, etc it would make choosing a location much easier.
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#12 Post by Ian Dorin » November 28th, 2018, 6:36 am

Anthony Hall wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 3:09 am
Dear Board,

I got over enthusiastic when the cellar II auction occurred and bought some "nice" bottles. So far more have been genuine than not with one painful exclusion ( 90 La Tache). Australia's tax laws mean that I keep the balance in NYC. Where can I pay a corkage and have some appropriate food to try some of these wines ? Anyone keen to participate in a "Monday table comes to NY" dinner ? We will be in NYC Jan 7 - 13, 2019.

Cheers,

Anthony.
Check out Vaucluse. Appropriate food and setting. They are reasonable about the corkage, and I have often times had it reduced by supplementing the evening by buying a bottle or two off the list.
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#13 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 28th, 2018, 7:33 am

The Musket Room has a Michelin Star and no corkage Monday. Not sure if the NZ theme is too close to home. They also have a private room. The somm is a cool dude.

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#14 Post by GregT » November 28th, 2018, 7:54 am

Had dinner at Racines last week and it's great food. Musket Room is another really good suggestion and perhaps better for a crowd. Both are very wine-centered.
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#15 Post by John Morris » November 28th, 2018, 8:17 am

I've had a number of nice evenings and meals at Amali on East 60th, including several dinners with WB folks (e.g., Jay). There's no corkage on Mondays if you clear it first with the somm. Haven't been there in a couple of years, though.
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#16 Post by YLee » November 28th, 2018, 8:33 am

Musket, Amali & racines are good choices.
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#17 Post by John Morris » November 28th, 2018, 8:52 am

I would add a vote for the Milling Room. Merrill Lundquist organized a big gathering there last year. The food and service were very good, and they had lots of decanters. While it's a big space, we were able to hold a good conversation. I think that was a Monday, too, and someone was able to negotiate no or low corkage.
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#18 Post by Jay Miller » November 28th, 2018, 8:54 am

John Morris wrote:
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I would add a vote for the Milling Room. Merrill Lundquist organized a big gathering there last year. The food and service were very good, and they had lots of decanters. While it's a big space, we were able to hold a good conversation. I think that was a Monday, too, and someone was able to negotiate no or low corkage.
Remember, Scott Bryan was still in the kitchen then. Has anyone tried it with the new chef?
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#19 Post by JasonHernandez » November 28th, 2018, 9:21 am

I’m interested in attending.

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#20 Post by Paul Jaouen » November 28th, 2018, 9:37 am

Jay Miller wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 8:54 am
John Morris wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 8:52 am
I would add a vote for the Milling Room. Merrill Lundquist organized a big gathering there last year. The food and service were very good, and they had lots of decanters. While it's a big space, we were able to hold a good conversation. I think that was a Monday, too, and someone was able to negotiate no or low corkage.
Remember, Scott Bryan was still in the kitchen then. Has anyone tried it with the new chef?
My daughter has and was disappointed. I don't have any particulars to share but when I suggested going there Saturday, she said let's go somewhere else.
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#21 Post by JG Salazar » November 28th, 2018, 9:38 am

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#22 Post by Bryan Carr » November 28th, 2018, 9:50 am

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#23 Post by CliftonD » November 28th, 2018, 10:15 am

The Eddy, Batard (limit 1 per couple), and Aureole have no corkage on Mondays as well. And I love Wu's Wonton King.
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#24 Post by Jay Miller » November 28th, 2018, 10:23 am

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... And I love Wu's Wonton King.
I prefer BoHK and Ping's but a lot of my friends disagree.
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#25 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 28th, 2018, 10:59 am

CliftonD wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 10:15 am
The Eddy, Batard (limit 1 per couple), and Aureole have no corkage on Mondays as well. And I love Wu's Wonton King.
I might be able to nudge the Batard limit to 1 bottle pp.
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#26 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 28th, 2018, 11:01 am

JG Salazar wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 9:38 am
JasonHernandez wrote:
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I’m interested in attending.

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#27 Post by YacobovE » November 28th, 2018, 12:05 pm

I believe Buttermilk Channel in Brooklyn has free corkage on Tuesday with no bottle limit, plus there is a chance you run into Jay-Z and Beyonce who have been known to frequent the restaurant
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#28 Post by JasonHernandez » November 28th, 2018, 1:14 pm

Brent C l a y t o n wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 11:01 am
JG Salazar wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 9:38 am
JasonHernandez wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 9:21 am
I’m interested in attending.

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#29 Post by Victor Hong » November 28th, 2018, 1:19 pm

Brent is a very nice person, and seems to be just joking. Welcome aboard.

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#30 Post by c fu » November 28th, 2018, 1:25 pm

JasonHernandez wrote:
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#31 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 28th, 2018, 1:36 pm

Jason,

My apologies, I was not aware of your affiliation. It would be a pleasure to break bread and share some wine with you. Many thanks for your efforts!
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#33 Post by Jeremy Holmes » November 28th, 2018, 2:07 pm

You could get attendees to bring a wine they never received from Premier Cru Anthony.
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#34 Post by Sh@n A » November 28th, 2018, 2:17 pm

I would join. Having just organized a slew of offlines in NYC (see the offline thread), some things to be aware of: certain restaurants are only 1 bottle per 2 people, etc. Don't have time this second for restaurant suggestions, but I have been able to get 1 bottle/person at Batard just a few weeks ago, River Park (Tuesdays), unlimited (Little Frog, but food may be on same level as PDH.. although a private room... we are checking it out tonight). Actually, just realized Bobby Vans is the place to do this. Thanks to intro from another WB member, and some events I have tossed there... I can get a table at Bobby Vans 54th with a flat table fee. I think Bobby Vans for the win, if red meat is a reasonable pairing.
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#35 Post by John Morris » November 28th, 2018, 2:21 pm

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You could get attendees to bring a wine they never received from Premier Cru Anthony.
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#36 Post by scott c » November 28th, 2018, 2:39 pm

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#37 Post by Greg K » November 28th, 2018, 2:43 pm

I would like to come, but I'm not sure I could blend something in time.
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#38 Post by lleichtman » November 28th, 2018, 3:12 pm

Jeremy Holmes wrote:
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You could get attendees to bring a wine they never received from Premier Cru Anthony.
Too bad I'm not in NY. I have two cases of Premier Cru wines that were never delivered. Would make a lame tasting though. [snort.gif]
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#39 Post by Mark Golodetz » November 28th, 2018, 3:13 pm

Ian Dorin wrote:
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Anthony Hall wrote:
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Dear Board,

I got over enthusiastic when the cellar II auction occurred and bought some "nice" bottles. So far more have been genuine than not with one painful exclusion ( 90 La Tache). Australia's tax laws mean that I keep the balance in NYC. Where can I pay a corkage and have some appropriate food to try some of these wines ? Anyone keen to participate in a "Monday table comes to NY" dinner ? We will be in NYC Jan 7 - 13, 2019.

Cheers,

Anthony.
Check out Vaucluse. Appropriate food and setting. They are reasonable about the corkage, and I have often times had it reduced by supplementing the evening by buying a bottle or two off the list.
They have 2 amazing wine friendly dishes, the lacquered duck and the rabbit ravioli. If you are a fan of steak tartare, theirs is particularly good.
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#40 Post by J a y H a c k » November 28th, 2018, 3:13 pm

I have a bottle of Cellar II Nacional we can have for dessert. It was a two bottle lot and I believe, after tasting it, that the first bottle was authentic. What kind of food do you like? PDH is ridiculous. We can do much better. Send me a PM with your preferred cuisine and I will give you some suggestions. I have eaten at most of the places mentioned above and the food is good but for a dinner like that, private rooms and peace and quite would be nice, but some of those places just won't cut it.
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#41 Post by Mark Golodetz » November 28th, 2018, 3:15 pm

On another note, you might want to buy an old Patriarch wine from the 1970s and a Marcassin Blue Ridge 2006, which was one of the recipes Rudy used to mimic the older DRCs.
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#42 Post by YLee » November 28th, 2018, 4:02 pm

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I have a bottle of Cellar II Nacional we can have for dessert. It was a two bottle lot and I believe, after tasting it, that the first bottle was authentic. What kind of food do you like? PDH is ridiculous. We can do much better. Send me a PM with your preferred cuisine and I will give you some suggestions. I have eaten at most of the places mentioned above and the food is good but for a dinner like that, private rooms and peace and quite would be nice, but some of those places just won't cut it.
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#43 Post by Victor Hong » November 28th, 2018, 4:38 pm

lleichtman wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 3:12 pm
Jeremy Holmes wrote:
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You could get attendees to bring a wine they never received from Premier Cru Anthony.
Too bad I'm not in NY. I have two cases of Premier Cru wines that were never delivered. Would make a lame tasting though. [snort.gif]
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#44 Post by paul hanna » November 28th, 2018, 7:13 pm

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#45 Post by jcoley3 » November 28th, 2018, 7:21 pm

ybarselah wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 1:40 pm
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November 28th, 2018, 9:21 am
I’m interested in attending.

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#46 Post by Steve Eisenhauer » November 28th, 2018, 7:24 pm

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#47 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 28th, 2018, 7:39 pm

Sh@n A wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 2:17 pm
I would join. Having just organized a slew of offlines in NYC (see the offline thread), some things to be aware of: certain restaurants are only 1 bottle per 2 people, etc. Don't have time this second for restaurant suggestions, but I have been able to get 1 bottle/person at Batard just a few weeks ago, River Park (Tuesdays), unlimited (Little Frog, but food may be on same level as PDH.. although a private room... we are checking it out tonight). Actually, just realized Bobby Vans is the place to do this. Thanks to intro from another WB member, and some events I have tossed there... I can get a table at Bobby Vans 54th with a flat table fee. I think Bobby Vans for the win, if red meat is a reasonable pairing.
I know you’ve pulled off some great dinners, but some of us ITB might have other avenues of attack which can open up zero corkage/unlimited.
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Re: Drinking Rudi's treasures in NYC

#48 Post by Sh@n A » November 28th, 2018, 7:49 pm

Brent C l a y t o n wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 7:39 pm
Sh@n A wrote:
November 28th, 2018, 2:17 pm
I would join. Having just organized a slew of offlines in NYC (see the offline thread), some things to be aware of: certain restaurants are only 1 bottle per 2 people, etc. Don't have time this second for restaurant suggestions, but I have been able to get 1 bottle/person at Batard just a few weeks ago, River Park (Tuesdays), unlimited (Little Frog, but food may be on same level as PDH.. although a private room... we are checking it out tonight). Actually, just realized Bobby Vans is the place to do this. Thanks to intro from another WB member, and some events I have tossed there... I can get a table at Bobby Vans 54th with a flat table fee. I think Bobby Vans for the win, if red meat is a reasonable pairing.
I know you’ve pulled off some great dinners, but some of us ITB might have other avenues of attack which can open up zero corkage/unlimited.
your suggestions may be better, and I hope to hear about them!
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Re: Drinking Rudi's treasures in NYC

#49 Post by Mel Hill » November 28th, 2018, 9:03 pm

"Jason Hernandez, who was the government's lead attorney during the Kurniawan trial"
had to look it up....

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Re: Drinking Rudi's treasures in NYC

#50 Post by YLee » November 28th, 2018, 9:06 pm

I'm thinking someone created the Jason Hernandez account to be funny.
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