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#1 Post by Jörgen Lindström Carlvik » October 30th, 2018, 2:43 am

Wow! Nearly 250 wines scored 97 and above, with 34 wines receiving the perfect score. A hard-to-beat new record.
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#2 Post by Alan Eden » October 30th, 2018, 4:09 am

So 34 wines are technically perfect, do you have a list ?
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#3 Post by J a y H a c k » October 30th, 2018, 4:21 am

In order to qualify for the US trials in 2016 for the 1500 meter run, a runner had to post a time in the 1500 of 3:38 or in the mile of 3:54. That's just to qualify to run in the trials! When Roger Bannister ran a mile in under 4 minutes in May 1954, it was news throughout the world. Is it possible that wine making technique and technology has improved such that there are so many more wines these days that reach the quality standards that would have gotten 100 points 30 years ago? I'm just trying to avoid the truth of the slogan on the back of the shirt my sons got me, "The older I get, the better I was."
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#4 Post by Markus S » October 30th, 2018, 4:25 am

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"The older I get, the better I was."
Ahh...so true, so true. :-D
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#5 Post by Jim Brennan » October 30th, 2018, 4:54 am

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In order to qualify for the US trials in 2016 for the 1500 meter run, a runner had to post a time in the 1500 of 3:38 or in the mile of 3:54. That's just to qualify to run in the trials! When Roger Bannister ran a mile in under 4 minutes in May 1954, it was news throughout the world. Is it possible that wine making technique and technology has improved such that there are so many more wines these days that reach the quality standards that would have gotten 100 points 30 years ago? I'm just trying to avoid the truth of the slogan on the back of the shirt my sons got me, "The older I get, the better I was."
Um, yeah, but unlike wine criticism the measures for running are entirely objective (time and distance), and the bar for achievement has been raised higher. There is no "congrats you matched Bannister's time" award.

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#6 Post by A Songeur » October 30th, 2018, 5:10 am

Are you telling us they also put EPO and steroids in wine?...
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#7 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 30th, 2018, 5:11 am

What region(s) was she reviewing?

I know others take glee in TWA's downfall, but I don't. It was not on;y the most important wine-related periodical of all time, but it had a direct and on-balance enormously positive influence on my appreciation of wine. It saddens me to see what has happened there. I really like a couple of their current reviewers, but the precipitous decline will continue until/unless the management (ownership?) structure changes
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J a y H a c k wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 4:21 am
In order to qualify for the US trials in 2016 for the 1500 meter run, a runner had to post a time in the 1500 of 3:38 or in the mile of 3:54. That's just to qualify to run in the trials! When Roger Bannister ran a mile in under 4 minutes in May 1954, it was news throughout the world. Is it possible that wine making technique and technology has improved such that there are so many more wines these days that reach the quality standards that would have gotten 100 points 30 years ago? I'm just trying to avoid the truth of the slogan on the back of the shirt my sons got me, "The older I get, the better I was."

Well, Jay.....there are some folks who assert that there has been a continuous improvement in wine quality over the yrs
and that that improvement is due to the criticism of RobertParker. Just sayn'.
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#9 Post by Dennis Borczon » October 30th, 2018, 5:24 am

to complete the collapse, they should hire Suckling. Then move the home of the WA to Tuscany.

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#10 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » October 30th, 2018, 5:31 am

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I know others take glee in TWA's downfall, but I don't. It was not on;y the most important wine-related periodical of all time, but it had a direct and on-balance enormously positive influence on my appreciation of wine. It saddens me to see what has happened there. I really like a couple of their current reviewers, but the precipitous decline will continue until/unless the management (ownership?) structure changes
I echo this. The periodical was important to me until he started going crazy over cult and garage wines. I think my scubscription lapsed in 1999. Amazing that it was 19 years ago! I learned a lot about Bordeaux and wine appreciation from Parker's early writings.

I wonder if TWA could change course, positively, by lifting the firewall. I will admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the eBob forum until it started disentegrating - was it the Sierra Carche thing or something else that was the catalyst, or just the slow decline of cilivity? Open the doors back up, introduce us to the new wealth of review talent by allowing freedom of discourse on their forum. I just do not see the value as a "paid asset" of the subscription members, heck even the scores and reviews are all over the internet and retail shelves.

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#11 Post by Gray G » October 30th, 2018, 6:17 am

the slowest runner in the field got 82 points

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#12 Post by Julian Marshall » October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am

I'm still a subscriber, believe it or not. I renewed after my hiatus from wine, mainly because of the database, which is useful for backfilling. Not all Neal Martin's stuff is actually available elsewhere. William Kelley has been an excellent addition, but sadly he covers regions I don't follow. I'm hoping he'll be given Bordeaux? The rest of them seem quite nice and some are clearly competent, but Lisa is simply not credible on Bordeaux, IMHO. As for her 34 x 100 points, I suspect it's just another marketing ploy to try and revive the brand.
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#13 Post by Brian Tuite » October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am

Mike Smith with 3 100pt wines. Only winemaker to ever do this in a single vintage and he’s done it twice now! [wow.gif]
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#14 Post by Clint S Q U I E R » October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am
Mike Smith with 3 100pt wines. Only winemaker to ever do this in a single vintage and he’s done it twice now! [wow.gif]
Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.

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#15 Post by Julian Marshall » October 30th, 2018, 6:24 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
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What region(s) was she reviewing?
Napa 2016 and 2017.

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#16 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 30th, 2018, 6:26 am

Julian Marshall wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:24 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
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What region(s) was she reviewing?
Napa 2016 and 2017.
Thx. Not surprising I suppose.
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#17 Post by Brian Tuite » October 30th, 2018, 6:30 am

Clint S Q U I E R wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am
Mike Smith with 3 100pt wines. Only winemaker to ever do this in a single vintage and he’s done it twice now! [wow.gif]
Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.
Miseed that. blush Mike’s first 3 were for ‘13 wines as well.
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#18 Post by Mike Francisco » October 30th, 2018, 6:33 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 5:11 am
I know others take glee in TWA's downfall, but I don't. It was not on;y the most important wine-related periodical of all time, but it had a direct and on-balance enormously positive influence on my appreciation of wine. It saddens me to see what has happened there.
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#19 Post by Steve Crawford » October 30th, 2018, 6:40 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:30 am
Clint S Q U I E R wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am
Mike Smith with 3 100pt wines. Only winemaker to ever do this in a single vintage and he’s done it twice now! [wow.gif]
Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.
Miseed that. blush Mike’s first 3 were for ‘13 wines as well.
brian you also 'miseed' RB getting 3x100 pts for 2014 as well, TRB getting 3x100 for 2013, and brad grimes getting 3x100 for 2013 as well.
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#20 Post by Steve Crawford » October 30th, 2018, 6:45 am

yea LPB seems like sybil to me with her scores. jeb has been and will continue to be my go to benchmark for critic reviews.

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#21 Post by Kris Patten » October 30th, 2018, 6:54 am

While I like looking to see how a region performed in what should be an epic vintage like 2016, I also like to sort backwards and see who ran into some troubles....most of the sub-90 wines are Sauvignon Blancs and some other whites, only a couple high priced red surprises. Of all the names in the 100 point range, I'm actually not surprised that any of them got 100, a bit surprised 31 did in 2016, as 2015 Harlan and Spottswoode and 2010 Spottswoode were 100s too.

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#22 Post by Brian Tuite » October 30th, 2018, 8:07 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:30 am
Clint S Q U I E R wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:19 am
Mike Smith with 3 100pt wines. Only winemaker to ever do this in a single vintage and he’s done it twice now! [wow.gif]
Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.
Miseed that. blush Mike’s first 3 were for ‘13 wines as well.
Steve Crawford wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:40 am

brian you also 'miseed' RB getting 3x100 pts for 2014 as well, TRB getting 3x100 for 2013, and brad grimes getting 3x100 for 2013 as well.
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Yeah, I also missed Mike’s 4th 100 in ‘13. THAT was the record. champagne.gif
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#23 Post by Steve Crawford » October 30th, 2018, 8:13 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 8:07 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:30 am
Clint S Q U I E R wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am


Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.
Miseed that. blush Mike’s first 3 were for ‘13 wines as well.
Steve Crawford wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:40 am

brian you also 'miseed' RB getting 3x100 pts for 2014 as well, TRB getting 3x100 for 2013, and brad grimes getting 3x100 for 2013 as well.
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Yeah, I also missed Mike’s 4th 100 in ‘13. THAT was the record. champagne.gif
congrats for being wrong (again)?
these scores are handed out like candy corn, unfortunately to both.

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#24 Post by larry schaffer » October 30th, 2018, 8:22 am

Wow . . .

William Kelley did not hand out a single 100 point score when reviewing wines from Santa Barbara and SLO Counties. Interesting . . .
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#25 Post by Jonathan Grunzweig » October 30th, 2018, 8:31 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 8:07 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:30 am
Clint S Q U I E R wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:23 am


Benoit Touquette - Realm '13 Dr. Crane, Absurd and Bard were all scored 100 pts by RP.
Miseed that. blush Mike’s first 3 were for ‘13 wines as well.
Steve Crawford wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:40 am

brian you also 'miseed' RB getting 3x100 pts for 2014 as well, TRB getting 3x100 for 2013, and brad grimes getting 3x100 for 2013 as well.
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Yeah, I also missed Mike’s 4th 100 in ‘13. THAT was the record. champagne.gif
Colgin (Allison Tauziet) also garnered three 100-point scores in the current (LPB) set of reviews (plus a meager 98 for their Syrah).

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#26 Post by Alan Rath » October 30th, 2018, 8:35 am

Larry, the only interpretation I would give to that is that William is a much more balanced and nuanced critic who doesn’t need to draw attention to himself through inordinately high scores. Bravo to him.
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#27 Post by Steve Crawford » October 30th, 2018, 8:43 am

id enjoy seeing a statistical analysis of the scores given to PM, morlet, and aubert from LPB compared to RP.

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#28 Post by Anton D » October 30th, 2018, 8:50 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 4:21 am
In order to qualify for the US trials in 2016 for the 1500 meter run, a runner had to post a time in the 1500 of 3:38 or in the mile of 3:54. That's just to qualify to run in the trials! When Roger Bannister ran a mile in under 4 minutes in May 1954, it was news throughout the world. Is it possible that wine making technique and technology has improved such that there are so many more wines these days that reach the quality standards that would have gotten 100 points 30 years ago? I'm just trying to avoid the truth of the slogan on the back of the shirt my sons got me, "The older I get, the better I was."
It makes me wonder in a different way: are we now seeing homogenization of wines based on a "Parker Ideal?"

Is this 'convergence of perfection' a function of improvements in the process, or is it abandoning individualism in favor of point seeking?
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#29 Post by Glen Gold » October 30th, 2018, 8:53 am

Even if everyone is getting a participation trophy, I'm betting Mike Smith's wines are really good this year. Means another level of research, I guess, and makes it harder to cut through all the inflated GPAs, but if it boosts everyone's self esteem, society is served. [snort.gif]

That said, did she review Detert? I always like those wines.

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#30 Post by Anton D » October 30th, 2018, 8:56 am

Are these wines all cabs?
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#31 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am

the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
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#32 Post by NickRut » October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am

What 3 Mike wines got 100s?
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#33 Post by Billy Norris » October 30th, 2018, 9:11 am

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#34 Post by Anton D » October 30th, 2018, 9:41 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
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the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
I would call it even smaller, sadly.

I'd say we are in the times of the 87-100 point scale.

A B+ is now a "wine participation" grade.
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#35 Post by NickRut » October 30th, 2018, 10:07 am

Billy Norris wrote:
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#36 Post by larry schaffer » October 30th, 2018, 10:16 am

I'm just curious how many of the hundred points scores were not Bordeaux variety based wines?

Also, anyone know how many Pinots or, egads, rhone variety wines have garnered 100 points from the WA in the past few years (other than SQN)?

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#37 Post by Steve Gautier » October 30th, 2018, 10:43 am

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I'm just curious how many of the hundred points scores were not Bordeaux variety based wines?

Also, anyone know how many Pinots or, egads, rhone variety wines have garnered 100 points from the WA in the past few years (other than SQN)?

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Looking real quickly, I only see five red wines (there were 11 whites) from California from 2013-2016 other than SQN that meet your criteria:

2014 L’Aventure For Her
2014 Marcassin Pinot Noir Bessie’s Block
2013 Bedrock Exposition #2
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#38 Post by larry schaffer » October 30th, 2018, 11:49 am

Steve Gautier wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:43 am
larry schaffer wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:16 am
I'm just curious how many of the hundred points scores were not Bordeaux variety based wines?

Also, anyone know how many Pinots or, egads, rhone variety wines have garnered 100 points from the WA in the past few years (other than SQN)?

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Looking real quickly, I only see five red wines (there were 11 whites) from California from 2013-2016 other than SQN that meet your criteria:

2014 L’Aventure For Her
2014 Marcassin Pinot Noir Bessie’s Block
2013 Bedrock Exposition #2
2013 Bedrock Exposition #3
2013 Booker Fracture EXT
I guess 'perfection' tends to be variety and geographic specific for the most part . . .
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#39 Post by Gray G » October 30th, 2018, 4:01 pm

Anton D wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:41 am
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am
the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
I would call it even smaller, sadly.

I'd say we are in the times of the 87-100 point scale.

A B+ is now a "wine participation" grade.
why sad?

all wine being better at least in this report, not withstanding those left unreported

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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#40 Post by Dan Kravitz » October 30th, 2018, 4:24 pm

Many posters talk about the Wine Advocate's "downfall"... some with glee, some with sadness.

My question is if the Wine Advocate has had a downfall. Does anybody know if subscriptions are dropping off? Is income dropping off? Are the 'Matter of Taste' tastings drawing great, good, fair, poor attendance? Do they make the owners money?

I understand that the new editor, Lisa Perotti Brown does not have the respect of many members of this board (and the old Parker board). I also understand Jeb Dunnuck and Neal Martin had a lot of respect and their departure has lowered the opinion of TWA among many board members. But how does this translate to wine lovers who are not on this board, and to wine lovers who may be less passionate and perhaps less obsessive. How do subscriber numbers compare between TWA and TWS, and how did they compare in the Ancien Regime and under the new management of Lisa Perotti Brown? How do subscriber numbers compare to membership and activity on this board?

If anybody has any info, or even speculation, I'd be interested.

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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#41 Post by C. Mc Cart » October 30th, 2018, 5:55 pm

Dan, since you mentioned speculation - as for wine lovers less passionate and obsessive than many on this board, I suspect Wine Spec is their publication of choice.
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#42 Post by Marcus Dean » October 30th, 2018, 6:11 pm

Dan Kravitz wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 4:24 pm
Many posters talk about the Wine Advocate's "downfall"... some with glee, some with sadness.

My question is if the Wine Advocate has had a downfall. Does anybody know if subscriptions are dropping off? Is income dropping off? Are the 'Matter of Taste' tastings drawing great, good, fair, poor attendance? Do they make the owners money?

I understand that the new editor, Lisa Perotti Brown does not have the respect of many members of this board (and the old Parker board). I also understand Jeb Dunnuck and Neal Martin had a lot of respect and their departure has lowered the opinion of TWA among many board members. But how does this translate to wine lovers who are not on this board, and to wine lovers who may be less passionate and perhaps less obsessive. How do subscriber numbers compare between TWA and TWS, and how did they compare in the Ancien Regime and under the new management of Lisa Perotti Brown? How do subscriber numbers compare to membership and activity on this board?

If anybody has any info, or even speculation, I'd be interested.

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Mostly speculation but I believe they are doing well in Asia and have cultivated a large subscriber base from that area, also they seem to value the brand more than the individual critic.

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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#43 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 30th, 2018, 6:20 pm

Dan Kravitz wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 4:24 pm
Many posters talk about the Wine Advocate's "downfall"... some with glee, some with sadness.

My question is if the Wine Advocate has had a downfall. Does anybody know if subscriptions are dropping off? Is income dropping off? Are the 'Matter of Taste' tastings drawing great, good, fair, poor attendance? Do they make the owners money?

I understand that the new editor, Lisa Perotti Brown does not have the respect of many members of this board (and the old Parker board). I also understand Jeb Dunnuck and Neal Martin had a lot of respect and their departure has lowered the opinion of TWA among many board members. But how does this translate to wine lovers who are not on this board, and to wine lovers who may be less passionate and perhaps less obsessive. How do subscriber numbers compare between TWA and TWS, and how did they compare in the Ancien Regime and under the new management of Lisa Perotti Brown? How do subscriber numbers compare to membership and activity on this board?

If anybody has any info, or even speculation, I'd be interested.

Dan Kravitz
Good point, Dan. I don't think anyone here knows. My comment was about the downfall in the quality of the product, not on its economics. I have my guesses about the latter but no facts
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#44 Post by Yao C » October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pm

If you look at the free Alexa stats, robertparker.com has declined from a ~100K rank (lower the better) to ~250K from the beginning of the year to now. I would estimate that corresponds to a ~3x decline in terms of monthly unique visitors. How much of this decline is real / systemic as opposed to seasonal / an artifact of the measurement process I have no idea

Looking at vinous.com tells a different story with what looks like a sinusoidal fluctuation about the ~300K mark - but that fluctuation looks to be highly seasonal

Interestingly, vinous.com's rank in Hong Kong is 16,974 whereas robertparker.com's rank is 31,401. Vinous is therefore doing better in Hong Kong on a comparative basis, and I'd intuitively expect that to hold for Asia in general

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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#45 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 30th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Yao C wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pm
If you look at the free Alexa stats, robertparker.com has declined from a ~100K rank (lower the better) to ~250K from the beginning of the year to now. I would estimate that corresponds to a ~3x decline in terms of monthly unique visitors. How much of this decline is real / systemic as opposed to seasonal / an artifact of the measurement process I have no idea

Looking at vinous.com tells a different story with what looks like a sinusoidal fluctuation about the ~300K mark - but that fluctuation looks to be highly seasonal

Interestingly, vinous.com's rank in Hong Kong is 16,974 whereas robertparker.com's rank is 31,401. Vinous is therefore doing better in Hong Kong on a comparative basis, and I'd intuitively expect that to hold for Asia in general

Chart for robertparker.com below; take this with an enormous grain of salt:
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Chart for vinous.com:
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#46 Post by Matthew King » October 30th, 2018, 7:08 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am
the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
Maybe they can go “Spinal Tap” and dial up the top score to 101 for truly special wines!
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#47 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 30th, 2018, 7:15 pm

Matthew King wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 7:08 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am
the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
Maybe they can go “Spinal Tap” and dial up the top score to 101 for truly special wines!
I don't see that as a joke, I see it as inevitable.
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#48 Post by Gray G » October 30th, 2018, 7:25 pm

Matthew King wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 7:08 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am
the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
Maybe they can go “Spinal Tap” and dial up the top score to 101 for truly special wines!
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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#49 Post by John Glas » October 30th, 2018, 7:37 pm

Maybe they can go “Spinal Tap” and dial up the top score to 101 for truly special wines!
Wouldn't it be 110. Guitar to 11 based on 10. 110 based on 100 scoring system. champagne.gif

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Re: Lisa Perotti Brown - 34 x 100 p in the new WA issue

#50 Post by A. So » October 30th, 2018, 7:44 pm

Anton D wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:41 am
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 9:03 am
the 'revolutionary' 100-point scale started as a 40-point scale, really, quickly became a 25-point scale, now is an 18-point scale.
I would call it even smaller, sadly.

I'd say we are in the times of the 87-100 point scale.

A B+ is now a "wine participation" grade.
And you know what score is in the middle of that scale?
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