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#1 Post by mark rudner » October 27th, 2018, 7:24 am

bottle, glass or just a taste. what's the one you had that left the greatest impact?
2 for me. 1990 monfortino and a 78 rousseau ruchottes.
both wines blew me away from first sniff to their incredibly long finishes. but mostly it was the soaring aromatics that left their impressions on me.

was thinking about this last night as i was trying to find some reasonably priced older monfortinos. yeah, right.

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#2 Post by Gerhard P. » October 27th, 2018, 8:16 am

My first tasting at the cellar of René Rostaing in 1990: after leaving we drove to Burgundy 2.5 hours North, and I still had the smell of his Cote-Roties in my nose (erspecially the La Landonne) ... I looked back several times to my purchased cases of wine thinking a bottle was broken ... so intense was the memory of this smell ...
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#3 Post by Bud Carey » October 27th, 2018, 8:26 am

2001 Chateau D'Yquem.... other worldly.
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#4 Post by Peter Panzica » October 27th, 2018, 8:34 am

1982 Mouton
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#5 Post by chetkern » October 27th, 2018, 8:36 am

61 Laguiche Montrachet from a Double Magnum
67 DRC Montrachet - the wine that taught me about DRC Montrachet and everyone elses Montrachet

LOTS of old red burgundies but I’ll never forget a few, like 61 Faiveley Tastevin Amourueses, 49 Clos de Chenes from Bichot, many many 62’s, and lots of old and well stored DRC and Leroy before anyone was chasing them.

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#6 Post by BobMilton » October 27th, 2018, 9:14 am

A 1976 Heitz Cellar Bella Oaks Vineyard Cab. Had it at the Top of the Cove restaurant in La Jolla. First wine to make me say wow this is good.

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#7 Post by Kirk.Grant » October 27th, 2018, 9:31 am

1976 d'Yquem - This was my "a-ha" wine that clued me into the idea that I did like dessert wines. We had it at the tail end of a tasting of white wines that were all "past their prime". Three cases of old '92 Montrachet, Alsace Grand Crus, and other wines that got forgotten in the basement of the wine shop. This was the surprise blind wine of the night...what a treat.

1995 Musar - My first experience with this wine (2+ cases ago) was in the summer of 2007. In a grouping of '97 Napa Cabs, '97 Brunello, '96 Bordeaux, and a mystery wine. There were 5 sets each containing one of each group. When I got the the Musar initially I thought it was a Brunello as I'd had little experience with Brunello at that point and didn't know what to make of it. In a set of 20+ wines that had wines like Penfold's Grange, and other stars...this shone the brightest. At that time is was $32 off the shelf ($29 with a case discount). To have an "affordable" wine blow others 3x-5x the price was an eye opener for me. This was the start of my love affair with Musar.
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#8 Post by mark rudner » October 27th, 2018, 11:11 am

chetkern wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 8:36 am
61 Laguiche Montrachet from a Double Magnum
67 DRC Montrachet - the wine that taught me about DRC Montrachet and everyone elses Montrachet

LOTS of old red burgundies but I’ll never forget a few, like 61 Faiveley Tastevin Amourueses, 49 Clos de Chenes from Bichot, many many 62’s, and lots of old and well stored DRC and Leroy before anyone was chasing them.
not that it's a competition but it's going to be awfully tough to top these wines [cheers.gif]

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#9 Post by P Intag » October 27th, 2018, 12:11 pm

1999 Simon Bize Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru Aux Vergelesses, in 2012.
I know this is rather modest, but this wine showed me what all the Burgundy fuss was about. I can still taste in my mind the focused, earthy beauty of this incredible bottle. Unfortunately, I can't afford to buy much Burg at this point and none of the Burgs that I have tried since then have lived up to that bottle (including a 2000 DRC Echezeaux a few years ago).
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#10 Post by Kris Patten » October 27th, 2018, 12:53 pm

1961 Leroy Musigny, 1953 Margaux and 1985 DRC RC....three way tie.
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#11 Post by cnalda » October 27th, 2018, 2:11 pm

Bud Carey wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 8:26 am
2001 Chateau D'Yquem.... other worldly.
+1 (My descriptor has been "ethereal"...)
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#12 Post by Merrill Lindquist » October 27th, 2018, 3:40 pm

1964 Cheval Blanc from an impeccable cellar (not mine, my date's). Brought to La Folie (Rolland Passot's restaurant in SF) and served with their (excessive, but fantastic) truffle-oriented menu. Good Lord.
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#13 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » October 27th, 2018, 3:48 pm

1970 Petrus and 1970 Cheval Blanc served side by side in the same blind flight. I can still clearly recall both wines nearly 20 years later.
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#14 Post by David Glasser » October 27th, 2018, 4:39 pm

Four separate occasions, unable to pick just one:
1959 Lafite
1929 Bouchard Pommard Rugiens
1947 Marc Bredif Vouvray
1989 Haut Brion and 1989 Petrus

A different list if the occasion, not just the wine, counts.

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#15 Post by edwardmilstein » October 27th, 2018, 5:46 pm

Lots to choose from, but a good friend and his father opened 71 Gouges Les st Georges and 64 Pousse d'or ( think it was Clos de la Bousse d'Or ) , that I always think back to fondly. 1863 Latour in 2000 at a Latour vertical, before a Christies sale that will always stay with me, and a '29 Latour in Macau,also before a Christies sale that was better than the '61 that night.I've written before about a '71 La Tache in Jero, served for a charity event in Toronto, that was mind blowing.I guess I shouldn't leave out '85 Ramonet Montrachet that was otherworldly.
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#16 Post by Thomas Keim » October 27th, 2018, 5:58 pm

'59 Petrus
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#17 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 27th, 2018, 6:19 pm

29 d’yquem, 90 rc

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#18 Post by Mark Golodetz » October 27th, 2018, 6:50 pm

A major birthday with a lunch at Ridge hosted by Paul Draper, drinking a vertical of Ridge wines going back to the late ‘60s, and all my close wine friends there.
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#19 Post by saul_cooperstein » October 27th, 2018, 6:51 pm

1992 ZH Rangen
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#20 Post by Craig G » October 27th, 2018, 8:34 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 6:51 pm
1992 ZH Rangen
1996 ZH Rangen
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I have a bottle of the 92 Rangen standing in my cellar right now. When did you drink it?
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#21 Post by Joe Raymond » October 27th, 2018, 9:16 pm

2003 Shafer HSS. Don’t know why but the nose, taste and the finish just hooked me on wine for good. The finish was something I can still remember, and if you left the wine sitting in the glass for a few minutes it was amazing. Swirl it and it changed to something different and amazing.
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#22 Post by Rajesh P a r i k h » October 27th, 2018, 9:24 pm

1988 vintage Krug. First wine that I’ve loved, but simultaneously knew I wasn’t appreciating enough. I’m hoping to have a chance to revisit something similar again

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#23 Post by James Wright » October 28th, 2018, 3:20 am

a Palo Cortado from Domecq called «Sybarita»

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#24 Post by saul_cooperstein » October 28th, 2018, 5:42 am

Craig G wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 8:34 pm
saul_cooperstein wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 6:51 pm
1992 ZH Rangen
1996 ZH Rangen
1953 Lafite
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I have a bottle of the 92 Rangen standing in my cellar right now. When did you drink it?
Drank in 2005 or 2006 from double magnum. It was clearly wotn in a tasting of 17 vintages of ZH Rangen.

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#25 Post by Steven Orloff » October 29th, 2018, 1:16 pm

1990 Margaux. My epiphany wine. I was blown away by it. For whatever reason I am drawn to Chateau Margaux in general but the 1990 was probably what pushed me over the edge.

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#26 Post by David Mc » October 29th, 2018, 2:29 pm

Château L'Évangile
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#27 Post by Kevin Patrick » October 29th, 2018, 2:40 pm

1995 Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon. My first love. Poured in 2001. Served in the back tasting room in Napa. The wine world went from black & white to color in that instant.

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#28 Post by Joshua Kates » October 29th, 2018, 2:40 pm

1983 Rousseau Chambertin
1989 Lynch-Bages (in top condition. a few years ago)
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#29 Post by M.Kaplan » October 29th, 2018, 8:57 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
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#30 Post by Philip Laub » October 29th, 2018, 9:41 pm

'69 La Tache, tasted in the late 90's. The juxtaposition of weightlessness and power, and the mind blowing, face enveloping nose I will never forget.

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#31 Post by paul hanna » October 29th, 2018, 9:56 pm

1990 and 1999 DRC RC side by side...the two greatest wines I have ever had (don't even remember the other RC's with them!)

The first sniff of a just opened bottle of 1865 Bouchard Père & Fils Volnay ‘Santenots’ - I knew then the wine was going to be something special....

And - standing tasting Liger-Belair's '16's in the cellar with him, then getting to the amazing'16 La Romanee - just an otherworldy profound experience.

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#32 Post by Rob Hansult » October 30th, 2018, 11:00 am

1950 Yquem would head my list. Very early in my wine obsessed life - when it was 27 years old. A great, great Yquem (for me the best of the 18 vintages I've tasted), & the 1st wine that opened my eyes to what truly great wine was. The intensity of this wine was completely off the charts (& unfortunately, no modern Yquem will likely even come close in that aspect)

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'49 & '64 Cheval Blanc. Certainly more CF in both than many modern CB's, & did the '49 still have some Malbec in it ... ?
'62 Haut Brion (outrageous, insane, Pomerol-ish richness; best till the '89. Still kicking myself 40+ years later for not grabbing a '64 La Tache at the same shop. Pre winesearcher days, & sometimes I'd drive around Long Island on a Sat afternoon looking for wine deals. )
'61 Latour (the bottle was not in perfect shape, but showed the mind-blowing intensity & richness)
'59 Huet Le Haut-Lieu Sec (tasted when it was 29 - if tasted blind, I would have guessed no more than 5 years old)
'75 E Muller Scharzhofberer Auslese (my 1st exposure to off-dry-ish German Riesling; 12.5% ABV & drank @Kabi of the time residual sugar, if not size, structure, shape)
'75 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese (still a standard candle for me, even though the ground beneath it has traveled a bit)
'88 Krug Clos du Mesnil & '96 Krug (if Champagne can get better than this, you'll have to prove it by popping corks!)
'67 & '71 Yquem
'69 Mayacamas Cab
'74 Heitz Martha's Vineyard (transcendent Cali, even with the American oak)
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#33 Post by JCobb » October 30th, 2018, 11:49 am

69 Chave Hermitage Rouge from Mag with JL and some friends in Mauve with delicious charcouterie and local breads. Second bottle was a Mag of 96 Chave Hermitage Rouge.

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#34 Post by Mike Q » October 30th, 2018, 1:16 pm

It is hard to pick just one. In the order I tasted them and all on separate occasions:

1982 Dom Perignon given to me as a wedding present
1998 La Mondotte early on in my wine journey (don't judge)
1966 Romanée-Conti RC
1967 d'Yquem (the 2001 will lap it though in a few decades)
2005 SQN 17th Nail
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#35 Post by Jeremy Holmes » October 30th, 2018, 5:20 pm

1964 Salon from Magnum
1992 Coche-Dury Corton-Charlemagne
1993 Domaine Leflaive Montrachet
1999 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti
1865 Bouchard Père & Fils Volnay ‘Santenots
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#36 Post by Mark Golodetz » October 31st, 2018, 4:02 am

[quote="Rob Hansult]
'62 Haut Brion (outrageous, insane, Pomerol-ish richness; best till the '89. Still kicking myself 40+ years later for not grabbing a '64 La Tache at the same shop. Pre winesearcher days, & sometimes I'd drive around Long Island on a Sat afternoon looking for wine deals. )

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Never heard this before as one of the great HBs, and I have a couple. Sounds like something to drink at Thanksgiving!
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#37 Post by K John Joseph » October 31st, 2018, 7:52 am

I've got them etched both ways, 4 of which came from this tasting:
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1983 Jaboulet La Chappelle - right wine on the right night in which I had to cancel on a big Marcassin tasting due to pressing family issues
1997 Harlan - perfect bottle in a tremendous lineup. A true standout and so distinct I knew what it was despite never having it before
1982 Pichon Lalande - same lineup as the Harlan, and perhaps the most enchanting wine I've ever had
1989 Haut Brion - An ageless beast, and a rare wine I'm convinced will be outstanding at any age

Disappointment
1976 Petrus - I crushed this blind, noting decayed green notes, tomato plant, and what tasted like dusty underripe fruit. A wine that became "much better" after the reveal to some at the table once it "opened up". It was not good at all, and dead last by a long margin for me.
1966 Latour - Perhaps the most distinct note I've ever caught on a wine. Deer blood. I've hunted, killed, and processed many deer, and the smell of deer blood has a sickly sweet note mixed with carcass that is not particularly pleasant. I couldn't shake that in this old Latour. It was dense and enjoyed by some, but not my cup of tea at all.
2006 Alban Reva Syrah - A very educational experience. I was so excited to try this 100 pointer. I found that the wine was viscous, had a fruit profile that leaned hard to over-ripeness, was fat, and a bit hot at 16.5% abv or so. I flat out didn't like it. Nice confirmation that perfection in wine is totally subjective, and that 'bigger is better' doesn't work for me.
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#38 Post by David K o l i n » October 31st, 2018, 8:17 am

1961 Latour, directly from the Chateau at a vertical tasting 20 years ago. Presented at the end of a daytime tasting that ran a little long, and my tablmates took off after a taste, leaving me a half a bottle. I spent the next 45 minutes alone with the bottle. Sublime

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#39 Post by z_hart » October 31st, 2018, 11:24 am

1982 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou: I was just stepping into Bordeaux's at the time and ordered at a restaurant, which was the first time I ordered a non-Napa wine at a restaurant. I've had significantly better wines since, but you always remember the first.
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#40 Post by Doug Hein » October 31st, 2018, 12:26 pm

Definitely my first Ch. d'Yquem, with about 20 years' age and coupled with a wonderful Stilton. Mind blowing revelation.

Next would be my first La Tour and '63 Fonseca, both with proper age.

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#41 Post by Lee Short » October 31st, 2018, 1:01 pm

It was a cold spring day, in maybe 1999 or 2000, and we were visiting R&V Dauvissat in their cellars. After tasting from barrel, our host (Rene, if memory serves) pulls aside a couple of half-full bottles with indecipherable chalk marks on them. He pours the first one, and it is clean and mineral, crisp with a long beautiful finish. Just a fantastic bottle of wine. My curiousity is piqued, so I ask in my poor French how long the bottle has been open. He looks off into the ceiling, trying to remember; then turns back to me, shrugs, and says "about three weeks."

The wine was 1989 Sechet. It was just fantastic.

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#42 Post by mark rudner » November 2nd, 2018, 2:31 pm

nearly forgot the 81 krug collection from magnum
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#43 Post by Dan Kravitz » November 2nd, 2018, 6:19 pm

I've posted on most of these before, but Mark Golodetz nailed something:

"A major birthday with a lunch at Ridge hosted by Paul Draper, drinking a vertical of Ridge wines going back to the late ‘60s, and all my close wine friends there."

What he nails is that context can be almost everything.

So:

NV Gallo Zinfandel from gallon, in September 1963 - At a Monday night poker game, freshman year in college. I can still vaguely remember the aromas, nothing of the flavors. But it was the first time in my life I REALLY paid attention to a wine, and it was wonderful.

1961 Jaboulet Hermitage - At the end of the greatest wine dinner of my life, at Vivarois, then a Michelin *** in Paris, summer of 1982. I still remember the other wines:
1976 Batard Montrachet, Leflaive
1971 Chablis Grand Cru 'Les Clos', Long-Depaquit
1969 Vosne-Romanee 1er Cru 'Grande Rue' Lamarche
1964 Chateau Cheval Blanc
But I can still TASTE this one. After the four half bottles above, which came after a full bottle of an LH Gewurz, whose vintage and producer I cannot remember at all.

1976 Chateau Palmer - Multiple tastings. I didn't particularly really close attention the first time, served in the late '80s at a lunch at the Chateau. But the next time, poured blind by Robert Parker at dinner at his home for me and David Schildknecht. David and I were going 'hmmm'. Sally nailed it. My next sip implanted it. I've had it about half a dozen times since (last time about 10 years ago) and have known it every time.

1959 Pegau - I cooked a duck dinner at Pegau. Paul and Laurence Feraud, competitive with every breath, were up and down to the cellar "discussing" what would be served. Just before dinner, Laurence came up to me wide-eyed: "There were five bottles of '59 in the cellar, now there are four!!!!!!" I can taste this wine as I write this.

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#44 Post by Jeff Cassetta » November 2nd, 2018, 7:36 pm

1978 Giacosa SS Riserva...shared with a friend in 1998
1953 Margaux...shared with a couple of buddies along with a 1955 Figeac in 1990
1975 Yquem...multiple times...

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#45 Post by Ian Sutton » November 3rd, 2018, 8:53 am

I've forgotten [wink.gif]

joking aside, probably an old Chateau Chalon. Indelibly etched isn't always a good thing.
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#46 Post by Herwig Janssen » November 3rd, 2018, 10:22 am

La Chapelle 1961 and la Landonne 1978 from Guigal
Yquem 1869 and 1945 ; Coutet 1947 ; Filhot 1942
Bouchard Clos de Vougeot 1865
St Vivant 1952 Jadot
DRC 1959 Grand Echezeaux , La Tache 62 , 90 and 99
Henri Jayer 1980 Echezeaux and 1985 Richebourg
Lafite 1959
Petrus 1950
VCC 1948
Haut Brion 1929 from magnum
Chevalier Montrachet 1992 Leflaive
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#47 Post by mark rudner » November 4th, 2018, 2:12 pm

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#48 Post by Dan Kravitz » November 5th, 2018, 4:26 pm

z-hart's note brought back one I'd almost forgotten, and I am grateful:

1962 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou - Sally and had this well over half a dozen times at Jean-Pierre Restaurant in Washington, DC, in the mid to late '70's. On our first visit, the maitre 'd (also somm at the time; there were no somms back then), Jean-Michel Farret recommended it and it was simply stunning.

The restaurant was a partnership, named after the chef, Jean-Pierre Goyenvalle. I later worked under him at the restaurant he started after he left Jean-Pierre, Le Lion D'or.

Probably about the 4th or 5th time we had it, we sat down and ordered and I told Jean-Michel that maybe I would try another wine that evening. He looked a little perturbed. He said "I saw your name in the reservation book and decanted it an hour before you came". And there on the side table was the decanter, with the cork around the neck, and the bottle. I can't say it was the best bottle of this ever, but it certainly made in impression.

That evening was also the scene of one of the worst mistakes of my life: I casually knew an art dealer named Harry Lunn. He was also eating at Jean-Pierre that evening. We chatted, I offered him a glass of the '62 Ducru. He told me that he was selling Ansel Adams prints of the photo 'Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico'. Because we were friends, I could have one for $750. I didn't have $750.

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Re: most indelibly etched on your memory?

#49 Post by dave kammerer » November 5th, 2018, 4:44 pm

1949 Chambolle Musigny from Les Amis du Vin no producer info but it was excellent when I first started drinking wine. 1961 Chapoutier Hermitage.

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#50 Post by julianseersmartin » November 5th, 2018, 5:18 pm

1985 Haut Brion Blanc. A perfect wine, for me. It inspired a very long fall down the spiral of dry white Bordeaux, which some 6 maybe 8 years later, I'm only just emerging from and moving on. Alas, I don't think that kind of wine will ever come out of BDX again.

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