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#1 Post by Alan Eden » August 30th, 2018, 6:28 pm

Cant find out much about this bottling, what’s the blend and release price please
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#2 Post by M@tt G. » August 30th, 2018, 6:57 pm

I believe they were $375 per 750ml at release for the 2014. K&L has the Wine Advocate shelf talker with RP listing the 2014 at 83% CS, 9% Merlot, 6% CF, 3% PV.

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The Absurd stems from a simple yet fantastically complex proposition: it’s the very best wine that Realm Cellars produces. It began in 2005, a big, gorgeous vintage that gave us an abundance of glorious fruit. With no rules, no restrictions, we created what we called the super blend, the best of the best. In 2005, it so happened that the blend was 38% Petit Verdot. We thought that was kind of absurd. The name stuck, though the meaning has morphed into a wine that is ‘absurdly good.’ We only make The Absurd in certain years, when there is enough fruit to make this small blend without impacting the other Realm wines. The Absurd could be one varietal, it could be five. It could come from one vineyard lot, it could come from a dozen. Each time we make The Absurd we start with a blank canvas. Our sole guideline is our palate. Our sole aim is the best Napa Valley wine of the vintage.
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#3 Post by Alan Eden » August 30th, 2018, 7:01 pm

Anyone ever tasted ?
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#4 Post by Joe B » August 30th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Have you tried contacting Realm?
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#5 Post by Joe B » August 30th, 2018, 7:39 pm

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RP100Robert Parker's Wine Advocate
Composed of 88% Cabernet Sauvignon, 6% Merlot and 6% Cabernet Franc, the singular, absolutely compelling 2015 The Absurd opens with a seriously intense black currant cordial and plum preserves core, slowly revealing cedar chest, mincemeat pie, potpourri and spice box hints plus a waft of chocolate-covered cherries. The full-bodied, concentrated palate is packed with opulent black fruits and baking spice layers, featuring a rock-solid backbone of tight-grained tannins and just enough freshness to lift and tantalize on the long, seductive finish. Only 250 cases were made.

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Another wine where my tasting note needed censoring, the 2015 The Absurd is as good as wine gets in this critic’s opinion. Made from 88% Cabernet Sauvignon and equal parts Merlot and Cabernet Franc, it offers incredible notes of blueberries, incense, and Asian spices as well as more and more graphite, smoked earth, cedar and lead pencil notes with air. Deep, layered, and super concentrated, with a voluptuous texture and building tannin, it’s a massive wine by any measure, yet this is one case where I suspect the wine might shut down after a few years in bottle. If you’re lucky enough to have more than one bottle, I’d drink one in its youth and then hide the rest for at least 6-8 years.
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#6 Post by Nathan Smyth » August 30th, 2018, 8:17 pm

Huh.

So they ditched the Petit Verdot?

That was Realm's signature cultivar - what set them apart from the competition.

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#7 Post by Steve Crawford » August 31st, 2018, 7:44 am

Nathan Smyth wrote:
August 30th, 2018, 8:17 pm
Huh.

So they ditched the Petit Verdot?

That was Realm's signature cultivar - what set them apart from the competition.
the original absurd/s had the ample amount of PV. the recent renditions (since 12) are really just a reserve blend. i had the 12. great wine. 375 great? depends.

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#8 Post by Tom Chen » August 31st, 2018, 10:06 am

I love Realm and have been buying the Absurd since the initial vintage back in 2005, although typically just 1-2 bottles. It is a special wine, but like Steve says, value is in the eye of the beholder.

I will tell you it's the most expensive wine I buy regularly. I like it more than Shafer HSS, which is the second most expensive regular purchase.

Now, is it more than 3x better than the Bard or that much better than the Dr. Crane, both of which I love as well and buy? Maybe, maybe not.

I do intend to buy the 2015 Absurd when the offering goes live next week (as well as the Tempest and Bard).

And, not to state the obvious, but the team at Realm (particularly Juan) is just fantastic. Very responsive and great customer service.

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#9 Post by John Morris » August 31st, 2018, 10:15 am

Tom Chen wrote:
August 31st, 2018, 10:06 am
And, not to state the obvious, but the team at Realm (particularly Juan) is just fantastic. Very responsive and great customer service.
At $375.00 a bottle, I bet they do appreciate their customers.
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#10 Post by David_K » August 31st, 2018, 10:35 am

John Morris wrote:
August 31st, 2018, 10:15 am
Tom Chen wrote:
August 31st, 2018, 10:06 am
And, not to state the obvious, but the team at Realm (particularly Juan) is just fantastic. Very responsive and great customer service.
At $375.00 a bottle, I bet they do appreciate their customers.
Maybe it's the price to which the name refers.
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#11 Post by Albert_H » August 31st, 2018, 12:26 pm

I’m finally getting my first offering this release. Any idea if they offer the absurd to first time buyers?
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#12 Post by MICHAEL C R O M W E L L » August 31st, 2018, 12:49 pm

The Absurd is a great wine, I had the ‘14 and it knocked my socks off after a long decant. Can’t tell you that it’s worth a multiple of the others but it definitely worth some premium. @Albert, took me a couple of years to get an allocation, hope your wait is shorter.
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#13 Post by Joe B » August 31st, 2018, 1:08 pm

Albert_H wrote:
August 31st, 2018, 12:26 pm
I’m finally getting my first offering this release. Any idea if they offer the absurd to first time buyers?
I would be astounded if you did. The Absurd is 2015 which was a low yield vintage to begin with. I think we are looking at a very finite number of bottles. I’m hoping I get allocated one maybe two. Been on the list since 2012
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#14 Post by Bdklein » September 4th, 2018, 6:08 am

Is the Realm offer for 15 or 16? Or mixed (Absurd 15 and others 16)?
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#15 Post by ykwon » September 4th, 2018, 6:30 am

Bdklein wrote:
September 4th, 2018, 6:08 am
Is the Realm offer for 15 or 16? Or mixed (Absurd 15 and others 16)?
It sounds like it’s mixed. The Absurd is older than the other proprietary reds.
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#16 Post by MICHAEL C R O M W E L L » September 4th, 2018, 6:40 am

16 Bard, 16 Falstaff, 16 Tempest, 15 Absurd
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#17 Post by Ian Dorin » September 4th, 2018, 1:29 pm

Nathan Smyth wrote:
August 30th, 2018, 8:17 pm
Huh.

So they ditched the Petit Verdot?

That was Realm's signature cultivar - what set them apart from the competition.
That was only the 2005.

Now it's basically selected barrels to create a true Reserve wine (if I'm not mistaken it's BTK and Dr. Crane), but it's really about a style of power and precision all in one. The PNV lot was typically the best barrel of the Absurd which is called Rhinoceros. I tasted it, it was freak show good. Super powerful wine, but enough guts to hold it together that it wasn't out of control (or hot, lots of alcohol in the wine). I haven't tasted Absurd other than the 2005 like a year ago, or out of barrel (which was really just the Rhinoceros)
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#18 Post by Alan Eden » September 5th, 2018, 10:08 am

Absurd is $425 this year

Got todays offer but its not exciting me
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#19 Post by Joe B » September 5th, 2018, 10:17 am

Took a case total. 10 Bard and 2 Absurd
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#20 Post by kevanmah » September 5th, 2018, 10:29 am

Anyone have any idea on how the scores are for this allocation? Realm always does well, just curious if there are any indicators on how they stack up to previous years.

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#21 Post by J.Vizuete » September 5th, 2018, 11:10 am

Falstaff seems to be the smallest production of the 3 -- anyone wishlisted these and received any? I'm hoping for a couple. For those that have ordered before, when do the wish list requests typically get granted?

I don't know about scores on this vintage yet.
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#22 Post by NickRut » September 5th, 2018, 11:48 am

6 bard, 2 tempest. Gotta stop buying wine.
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#23 Post by Joe Mendez » September 5th, 2018, 12:36 pm

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#24 Post by Frank Z » September 5th, 2018, 12:38 pm

newhere

Got onto the allocation list and was offered (1) Tempest 750mL, (4) Bard 750mL, (1) Bard 1.5L.

Took the everything except the magnum (can't fit larger bottles in my wine cellar).
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#25 Post by Joe B » September 5th, 2018, 12:46 pm

Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:38 pm
newhere

Got onto the allocation list and was offered (1) Tempest 750mL, (4) Bard 750mL, (1) Bard 1.5L.

Took the everything except the magnum (can't fit larger bottles in my wine cellar).
Then that one should be the one you first opened.
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#26 Post by Frank Z » September 5th, 2018, 12:58 pm

Joe B wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:46 pm
Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:38 pm
newhere

Got onto the allocation list and was offered (1) Tempest 750mL, (4) Bard 750mL, (1) Bard 1.5L.

Took the everything except the magnum (can't fit larger bottles in my wine cellar).
Then that one should be the one you first opened.

Haha, totally would, but then I would got to find friends who would appreciate it as much as I would to drink it with me! champagne.gif

Plus, gotta keep the wallet secure as other allocations get released~

With that being said, we shall see as I have the allocation for a week. Maybe my trip up to Napa this weekend will help me decide if I want the magnum.
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#27 Post by Joe B » September 5th, 2018, 1:15 pm

Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Joe B wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:46 pm
Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:38 pm
newhere

Got onto the allocation list and was offered (1) Tempest 750mL, (4) Bard 750mL, (1) Bard 1.5L.

Took the everything except the magnum (can't fit larger bottles in my wine cellar).
Then that one should be the one you first opened.

Haha, totally would, but then I would got to find friends who would appreciate it as much as I would to drink it with me! champagne.gif

Plus, gotta keep the wallet secure as other allocations get released~

With that being said, we shall see as I have the allocation for a week. Maybe my trip up to Napa this weekend will help me decide if I want the magnum.
It does have Beckstoffer fruit in it this year.
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#28 Post by J.Vizuete » September 5th, 2018, 2:44 pm

Joe B wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 1:15 pm
Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Joe B wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:46 pm

Then that one should be the one you first opened.

Haha, totally would, but then I would got to find friends who would appreciate it as much as I would to drink it with me! champagne.gif

Plus, gotta keep the wallet secure as other allocations get released~

With that being said, we shall see as I have the allocation for a week. Maybe my trip up to Napa this weekend will help me decide if I want the magnum.
It does have Beckstoffer fruit in it this year.
Referring to the bard or absurd?
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#29 Post by Joe B » September 5th, 2018, 3:07 pm

J.Vizuete wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 2:44 pm
Joe B wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 1:15 pm
Frank Z wrote:
September 5th, 2018, 12:58 pm



Haha, totally would, but then I would got to find friends who would appreciate it as much as I would to drink it with me! champagne.gif

Plus, gotta keep the wallet secure as other allocations get released~

With that being said, we shall see as I have the allocation for a week. Maybe my trip up to Napa this weekend will help me decide if I want the magnum.
It does have Beckstoffer fruit in it this year.
Referring to the bard or absurd?
That was for the Bard actually.
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#30 Post by J.Vizuete » September 5th, 2018, 3:12 pm

very cool, thanks for sharing - I couldn't find it on the site. Anyone have experience with recent vintages of the Falstaff?
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#31 Post by Phil M » September 5th, 2018, 3:18 pm

8 bard, 2 tempest, 2 falstaff and resisting temptation to buy a bottle of the Absurd ( the latest price increase is making it hard to rationalize)
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#32 Post by Albert_H » September 5th, 2018, 6:22 pm

4 bard and 1 tempest, wish listed 1 absurd
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#33 Post by Jake Rubash » September 5th, 2018, 6:47 pm

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#34 Post by Steve Bird » September 5th, 2018, 6:53 pm

I'm (very) new to their allocation list. Was offered 2 Bard, 2 Tempest,, 1 Falstaff, + 1 wish list Absurd

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#35 Post by ykwon » September 5th, 2018, 6:57 pm

First time on the list. In for a 3 pack of Bard and 1 tempest. WL the Absurd even with the insane price.

My first experience was a small vertical of the Farella (2005-2007) I purchase off auction. Really great wines. Drank a 2015 Bard against a Silver Oak and Lajota Howell Mountain a few months later at Bones Steakhouse in ATL. Let’s just say the other two wines were undrinkable after tasting the Bard. A buddy of mine commented that the Realm made the other wines taste like 19 crimes.

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#36 Post by Andre M » September 5th, 2018, 8:51 pm

If anyone is interested with the Absurd, I have 1 bottle that most likely I will not take.
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#37 Post by TonyD » September 5th, 2018, 8:56 pm

Received email offering at 5:43pm. Opened email within 2 minutes (close out my other work) and all I see is the ability to wish list items. I was previously given an allocation and took some last year. Not sure what happened this year but doesn't seem to make much sense to stay on a wait list for this to happen. Disappointed. :(
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#38 Post by Mstanford » September 5th, 2018, 9:09 pm

I also have an Absurd, if anyone interested. I'm swimming in wine at my house...just too much
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#39 Post by Carlton McCrindle » September 5th, 2018, 9:35 pm

Ditto Mr. Stanford

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#40 Post by Erik Jones » September 5th, 2018, 11:01 pm

My allocation is also available. Just too much $$ already spent this year. Hopefully someone here can enjoy. PM me for login details.
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#41 Post by Jim Salvito » September 6th, 2018, 8:34 am

I spent a bit of time at the new winery with Juan and Scott on Tuesday afternoon. Tasted both the '16 Bard and Farella. They are both amazing. Classic Realm house style, but surprisingly very approachable right now. These guys are really good people, and they have some exciting things planned. I think the wines are getting better with each vintage.

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#42 Post by John Morris » September 6th, 2018, 3:22 pm

So, I count five people selling the Absurd or their full allocation. Is that right? Jake, Andre, Mike, Carlton and Erik.
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#43 Post by JohnP » September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm

From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
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#44 Post by luc@sl@belle » September 6th, 2018, 7:08 pm

I’ve offered mine as well to any interested board members and have a deal pending.

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#45 Post by John Davis » September 6th, 2018, 7:16 pm

JohnP wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm
From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
Thus I am no longer a buyer. Love their wines and do not begrudge them if they are getting that price. But just not for me.

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#46 Post by Jason Petty » September 6th, 2018, 7:21 pm

JohnP wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm
From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
Gotta pay for that shiny new winery somehow!

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#47 Post by Joe Mendez » September 6th, 2018, 9:41 pm

Anyone taste the Bard 2016 at the winery and also had the 14 or 15? If so, which previous vintage is the Bard 16 more similar too.

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#48 Post by GregT » September 7th, 2018, 8:02 am

JohnP wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm
From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
Simply read this thread. Haven't tried it, don't know it, hope it gets high scores, in for a case.

Same with Bordeaux futures.

Can't blame them for raising prices. I'd keep raising them until it stopped selling out.
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#49 Post by JohnP » September 7th, 2018, 8:58 am

GregT wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 8:02 am
JohnP wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm
From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
Simply read this thread. Haven't tried it, don't know it, hope it gets high scores, in for a case.

Same with Bordeaux futures.

Can't blame them for raising prices. I'd keep raising them until it stopped selling out.
You went in for a case of the Absurd, wow, baller! BDX futures fluctuate based on the vintage, but I've yet to see a Napa flagship wine offer a lower price in the next vintage, even if it was a sub-par year (last example, 2011).
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#50 Post by John Morris » September 7th, 2018, 10:35 am

JohnP wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 8:58 am
GregT wrote:
September 7th, 2018, 8:02 am
JohnP wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 5:12 pm
From 2013 at $250 a bottle, to 2015 now $425, what's up with this Absurd Napa inflation? Really sucks.
Simply read this thread. Haven't tried it, don't know it, hope it gets high scores, in for a case.

Same with Bordeaux futures.

Can't blame them for raising prices. I'd keep raising them until it stopped selling out.
You went in for a case of the Absurd, wow, baller! BDX futures fluctuate based on the vintage, but I've yet to see a Napa flagship wine offer a lower price in the next vintage, even if it was a sub-par year (last example, 2011).
I don't think Greg bought any. He's just paraphrasing the thrust of many of the posts above.
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