Envoyer Thread #2: Everything else

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Re: Envoyer Thread #2: Everything else

#1451 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm

Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
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#1452 Post by Josh Grossman » August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese

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#1453 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 17th, 2020, 7:12 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese
The Willi Schaefer rand Von Schubert wines should be fabulous. IMHO I think Lyle oversold the 2018 Mullen spatlese.
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2017 Goodfellow Family Cellars Durant Vineyard Chardonnay
2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2018 Donnhoff Niederhauser Hermannshöhle GG
2015 Josef Walter Hundsruck Spätburgunder "J"

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#1454 Post by Josh Grossman » August 17th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:12 pm
Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese
The Willi Schaefer rand Von Schubert wines should be fabulous. IMHO I think Lyle oversold the 2018 Mullen spatlese.
I didn't get as much as I usually do--but I do think that is Mullen's top site and also have some of the '18 Aulese from it too. It should be fun to do a horizontal and/or vertical in some years. MFW gave it a 93 still.

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#1455 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 17th, 2020, 7:21 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:12 pm
Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm

In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese
The Willi Schaefer rand Von Schubert wines should be fabulous. IMHO I think Lyle oversold the 2018 Mullen spatlese.
I didn't get as much as I usually do--but I do think that is Mullen's top site and also have some of the '18 Aulese from it too. It should be fun to do a horizontal and/or vertical in some years. MFW gave it a 93 still.
I had this spatlese**. Tasted like pure Haribo peaches. Enjoyable but not much more complex than that.
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2020 contenders for WOTY:
2017 Goodfellow Family Cellars Durant Vineyard Chardonnay
2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2018 Donnhoff Niederhauser Hermannshöhle GG
2015 Josef Walter Hundsruck Spätburgunder "J"

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#1456 Post by RyanC » August 17th, 2020, 7:40 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:12 pm
Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese
The Willi Schaefer rand Von Schubert wines should be fabulous. IMHO I think Lyle oversold the 2018 Mullen spatlese.
I had that ‘12 Schaefer #9 a couple weeks ago out of .375. It’s a Frankenstein wine: huge fruit, huge acidity, very tropical, very long... and yet, beautifully balanced. Just awesome.
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#1457 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » August 18th, 2020, 12:01 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 7:10 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 5:37 pm
Yep. Grabbed some 2019 Donnhoff Klamm Kabinett
In the last 24 hours I've bought:
2019 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2019 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Spätlese
2018 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Riesling Spätlese **
2019 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese #9
2001 Von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Auslese
That Von Schubert is probably spoiled now. If you send it to me I'll hazmat dispose of it in accordance with the appropriate regulatory guidelines.
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#1458 Post by Josh Grossman » August 19th, 2020, 4:19 pm

I was a bit worried that the tariffs had caused Envoyer some issues as it had been a bit since I was excited by their offers but between this, champagne, and today's Barolo cellar, my wine budget is busted for the month. Asked for some of the 1964 Valfieri Barolo Riserva based on this. Thanks Greg and Jeremy.

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#1459 Post by Cris Whetstone » August 23rd, 2020, 11:06 am

Ooof. Bring on the tariffs?

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#1460 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » August 24th, 2020, 5:51 pm

300 for Ramonet Clos de la Boudriotte 99... smh

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#1461 Post by Troy Stark » August 25th, 2020, 7:52 am

It's a magnum, so $150. Doesn't seem terrible does it?
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#1462 Post by AndyK » August 25th, 2020, 9:11 am

Cris Whetstone wrote:
August 23rd, 2020, 11:06 am
Ooof. Bring on the tariffs?

2008 LdH Tondonia Reserva for $44. Bought the 07 from them just over a year ago at $33.
I also was surprised by the 33% price increase YoY. Will probably skip this and wait for 2009/2010 unless I can find it closer to $35 somewhere else...
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#1463 Post by Barry L i p t o n » August 25th, 2020, 9:20 am

Isn't the price increase just basically the tariffs?

I always thought it was underpriced relative to quality and ageability, but didn't bite as I don't need more wine.

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#1464 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » August 25th, 2020, 9:29 am

Troy Stark wrote:
August 25th, 2020, 7:52 am
It's a magnum, so $150. Doesn't seem terrible does it?
I just bought a mag of 00 for 150 so yes, it’s awful.

Is 99 better? Yeah probably, but not twice as good.

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#1465 Post by Troy Stark » August 25th, 2020, 9:47 am

Gotcha!
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#1466 Post by Barry L i p t o n » August 25th, 2020, 1:30 pm

interesting half bottle of Huet Le Haut Lieu Sec on offer today.

The one Cellartracker note says it's sweeter, but I thought the Sec is on the dry side. Is there a lot of vintage variation wrt residual sugar?

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#1467 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 25th, 2020, 1:32 pm

Their pricing on Mugneret-Gibourg was 20% higher than any other offer I have seen.
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#1468 Post by RyanC » August 25th, 2020, 1:36 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
August 25th, 2020, 1:32 pm
Their pricing on Mugneret-Gibourg was 20% higher than any other offer I have seen.
Yeah. I’m in the market for some but not tempted by those prices at all.

I remember buying 08 Ruchottes for $125/per—but I suppose that was now a decade ago.
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#1469 Post by Barry L i p t o n » August 25th, 2020, 2:08 pm

No comments on yesterday's Donhoff GG offering? Anyone get confirmation yet?

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#1470 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 25th, 2020, 2:22 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
August 25th, 2020, 2:08 pm
No comments on yesterday's Donhoff GG offering? Anyone get confirmation yet?
Skipped it. I already bought a case of Donnhoff Kabinett from an offering earlier this month.
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#1471 Post by Brian Pinci » August 25th, 2020, 6:11 pm

I thought that was expensive for the Huet considering what you can get the 750 for. Skipped.
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#1472 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » August 25th, 2020, 6:13 pm

I know it hasn't even been 48 hours yet, but has anyone received a response to their requests on the offer of Huet 750s?
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#1473 Post by Mattstolz » August 25th, 2020, 6:16 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
August 25th, 2020, 2:08 pm
No comments on yesterday's Donhoff GG offering? Anyone get confirmation yet?
I asked for a hermannshole but haven't heard anything yet

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#1474 Post by James Sanders » September 1st, 2020, 5:24 pm

Those 2020 Breton's were absolutely killer about 10 years ago. I jumped on both of them.

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#1475 Post by DanielP » September 1st, 2020, 5:26 pm

James Sanders wrote:
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Those 2020 Breton's were absolutely killer about 10 years ago. I jumped on both of them.
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#1476 Post by eweininger » September 2nd, 2020, 4:46 am

James Sanders wrote:
September 1st, 2020, 5:24 pm
Those 2020 Breton's were absolutely killer about 10 years ago. I jumped on both of them.
I’m really excited about the Picasses, in particular, as I think Breton stopped bottling wine from that site shortly after the 02 vintage. I’ve never had a chance to sample one before.
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#1477 Post by alan weinberg » September 2nd, 2020, 7:36 am

James Sanders wrote:
September 1st, 2020, 5:24 pm
Those 2020 Breton's were absolutely killer about 10 years ago. I jumped on both of them.
how are the 2030s?

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#1478 Post by Neal.Mollen » September 2nd, 2020, 7:43 am

alan weinberg wrote:
September 2nd, 2020, 7:36 am
James Sanders wrote:
September 1st, 2020, 5:24 pm
Those 2020 Breton's were absolutely killer about 10 years ago. I jumped on both of them.
how are the 2030s?
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#1479 Post by Jayson Cohen » September 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
August 24th, 2020, 5:51 pm
300 for Ramonet Clos de la Boudriotte 99... smh
Is that $300 a bottle?

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#1480 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 2nd, 2020, 11:27 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
September 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
August 24th, 2020, 5:51 pm
300 for Ramonet Clos de la Boudriotte 99... smh
Is that $300 a bottle?
Yeah that was what they’d offered.

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#1481 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » September 4th, 2020, 10:41 am

Went for 3 of the Camus-Bruchon Savigny offered this morning; never tried it, but it sounds compelling. 100 yo vines. Consistently solid reviews across multiple vintages from trusted tasters on CT. $30. Seems like a no-brainer. I'm just nervous I'm going to later regret buying *only* 3.
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#1482 Post by Barry L i p t o n » September 4th, 2020, 1:08 pm

Looked like an interesting Cavalotto, for those of you who have 20 years more or like their Barolo young

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#1483 Post by Curtis Chen » September 16th, 2020, 1:27 pm

Got me some Bordelet Granits. Yum yum.
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#1484 Post by Geoff F. » September 21st, 2020, 12:01 am

A reload of 2016 Cavallotto for $75 again. Down to less than a case left on the site.

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