Envoyer Thread #2: Everything else

[RyanC]

I asked for the '99 de Courcel Rugiens Magnum. I love de Courcel with age and I have a soft spot for Rugiens.

[Mich@el Ch@ng]

Got 2 angerville 05 in 375, Lambrays and the 750 were sold out.

[RyanC]

I asked for the '99 de Courcel Rugiens Magnum. I love de Courcel with age and I have a soft spot for Rugiens.

Alas: too slow.

[Sh@n A]

I put in for the '05 Mouches. If I get it, I will drink it in 15 years...

[Mich@el Ch@ng]

I’m not necessarily upset I didn’t get those, fwiw haha

[YLee]

Mouches can be found for same price elsewhere.

[Dennis Atick]

Mouches can be found for same price elsewhere.

Just curious where you are seeing '05 Clos de Mouches for $109?

[Dennis Atick]

Looking forward to these: 2018 Foradori Fontanasanta Manzoni Bianco Vigneti delle Dolomiti IGT
Fair price on a 3pack

[YLee]

Envoyer's prices hasnt been that good these days.
2018 tempier rose for $40? Got mine almost 40% cheaper.

[Brian G r a f s t r o m]

Envoyer's prices hasnt been that good these days.
2018 tempier rose for $40? Got mine almost 40% cheaper.

Tempier? Not Terrebrune?

[Curtis Chen]

Envoyer's prices hasnt been that good these days.
2018 tempier rose for $40? Got mine almost 40% cheaper.

Tempier? Not Terrebrune?

Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.

[Mattstolz]

Mouches can be found for same price elsewhere.

Just curious where you are seeing '05 Clos de Mouches for $109?

haven't seen the 05 but got an email about the 2015 for $95 today from European wine exchange

[YLee]

Envoyer's prices hasnt been that good these days.
2018 tempier rose for $40? Got mine almost 40% cheaper.

Tempier? Not Terrebrune?

Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

[Curtis Chen]

Tempier? Not Terrebrune?

Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

Now for the million dollar question: From?

[DanielP]

Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

Now for the million dollar question: From?

My guess would be from across the pond

[Curtis Chen]

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

Now for the million dollar question: From?

My guess would be from across the pond

Impossible. He wouldn't pay shipping.

[YLee]

Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

Now for the million dollar question: From?

https://www.rollerswineandspirits.com/

They even had 2012 for same price.

[Curtis Chen]

2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25
Thats what I paid.

Now for the million dollar question: From?

https://www.rollerswineandspirits.com/

They even had 2012 for same price.

Dunno, Envoyer feels like wholesale prices compared to these guys.

[Brian G r a f s t r o m]

Looks like you got a helluva bargain on your Tempier. I wouldn't let one outlier dictate the quality of others' pricing. Flip it around for a moment: if there was one store selling it for $60, would Envoyer's pricing then be excellent? No.

Tempier's rose runs $35 - $45 these days, so Envoyer's pricing on that one is reasonable.

[J.Vizuete]

Looks like you got a helluva bargain on your Tempier. I wouldn't let one outlier dictate the quality of others' pricing. Flip it around for a moment: if there was one store selling it for $60, would Envoyer's pricing then be excellent? No.

Tempier's rose runs $35 - $45 these days, so Envoyer's pricing on that one is reasonable.

Tempier sells for $60 locally in my market (when it can be found). I bought mine from Envoyer earlier in the year for the same price ($39.99)

[Troy Stark]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

[Dennis Atick]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

A wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?

[Troy Stark]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

A wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?

From the offer, I think this probably explains it;

Domaine Charles Noellat sold the majority of their holdings to Domaine Leroy in the late 80’s, but we were told by our supplier they kept a few lesser parcels for themselves.

[Troy Stark]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

A wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?

Ah, I see what you're saying now - No vintage entered, ever. Yes, strange. You'd think somewhere and some point, someone would have purchased a bottle and entered a note.

[YLee]

I'm not sure if I should buy some or pass.

[Troy Stark]

OK, this explains it best I think;

https://www.winex.com/blog/2019/03/17/a ... los-genet/

Just a couple of weeks ago we introduced you to our newest source for incredibly-priced, perfectly-aged cellar treasure Burgundies, Charles Noellat. For those of you who may have missed the story while trying to click on that last offer before it sold out that day, here's the background info...

The Noellat name may be a familiar one to Winex customers, as its one of the most ubiquitous monikers in Burgundy’s Vosne-Romanee appellation. There are seemingly Noellats everywhere, including Hudelot-Noellat, Georges Noellat and Michel Noellat. But the Charles Noellat story is a quick one with, for us, a very happy ending.

Yes, there was a Domaine Charles Noellat for quite some time, having thrived with its fine terroir until it was sold to none other than Lalou Bize-Leroy back in 1988, helping form the backbone of Domaine Leroy. Her success can be attributed to her astute purchase of those historic vineyards!

The family, though they sold the domaine, luckily kept the rights to the name and original label of the domaine, which Anne Noellat's son, Stephan Moreau, now uses for his own unique négociant operation, Charles Noellat.

So, Charles Noellat rides again! Just on a different horse.

Now, he sources already-bottled wines directly from the cellars of Burgundian producers known for keeping older stocks squirreled away for a rainy day. Basically, he’s doing what we’re doing, but on a more local, intense, day-to-day level, and we’re loving the results.

He tastes he buys, he offers. We taste, we buy the best…we sell. Simple as that. Some wines are diamonds with greater clarity than others, but all are distinctive, all Burgundy.

I can’t tell you how much fun it is romping through an array of older Burgundies from sites all over the Cote d’Or and happening upon the gems. They’re not always Grand Cu, they’re not always the oldest, it’s the thrill of Burgundy, and it’s what we’re (ahem) pretty good at if I do say so myself.

[Todd F r e n c h]

Seems easily worth the price of admission to try it out

[Dennis Atick]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

A wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?

Ah, I see what you're saying now - No vintage entered, ever. Yes, strange. You'd think somewhere and some point, someone would have purchased a bottle and entered a note.

Yes. That was my point. Thanks for the additional info. Probably worth a flyer on a few at that price!

[Todd F r e n c h]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

I can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...

[Troy Stark]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

I can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...

Seems to be a negotiant bottle they purchased from someone as a one off. If it's not in there by the time I take delivery, I'll add it.

[Scott Brunson]

Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.

I can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...

Seems to be a negotiant bottle they purchased from someone as a one off. If it's not in there by the time I take delivery, I'll add it.

No confirmation for me yet

[JaredT]

Anybody get the 2013 Elvio Cogno Ravera Vigna Elena?

[Sc0tt F!tzger@ld]

Anybody get the 2013 Elvio Cogno Ravera Vigna Elena?

I requested a few bottles but haven’t heard anything back.

[Greg K]

Anybody get the 2013 Elvio Cogno Ravera Vigna Elena?

I requested a few bottles but haven’t heard anything back.

Same. That usually means I get them, but no guarantee.

[JaredT]

Anybody get the 2013 Elvio Cogno Ravera Vigna Elena?

I requested a few bottles but haven’t heard anything back.

Same. That usually means I get them, but no guarantee.

Requested a few, heard nothing. Fingers crossed it’s a Thanksgiving delay.

[Troy Stark]

No confirmation for me yet

Finally got my confirmation. Was pretty sure I'd get some as I responded within 1 min of receiving the offer.

[Sh@n A]

Has anyone had the Elena and Pernice side-by-side, and can speak to the differences between the wines?

[Scott Brunson]

No confirmation for me yet

Finally got my confirmation. Was pretty sure I'd get some as I responded within 1 min of receiving the offer.

now confirmed for 6
Easy buy

[YLee]

05 Faiveley santenots

[Scott Brunson]

05 Faiveley santenots

Yep--my finger really twitched on that one but I have a few other things for which I am saving $.

[YLee]

What a strange coincidence. After I made my purchase for 2017 Clape Cornas Envoyer just offered it.

[AD Northup]

What a strange coincidence. After I made my purchase for 2017 Clape Cornas Envoyer just offered it.

Didn’t get this one...how much was the offer?

[YLee]

What a strange coincidence. After I made my purchase for 2017 Clape Cornas Envoyer just offered it.

Didn’t get this one...how much was the offer?

149.99 for Cornas
59.99 for CdR

[ykwon]

That Raveneau offer...

[Troy Stark]

That Raveneau offer...

Did not receive...

[Troy Stark]

Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.

[Dennis Atick]

Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.

My last (and probably final) Raveneau purchase was the 2010 Montmains for $139 in late 2017. Gone, gone, gone...

[alan weinberg]

Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.

My last (and probably final) Raveneau purchase was the 2010 Montmains for $139 in late 2017. Gone, gone, gone...

yeah, I’m having trouble with premier crus passing the $200 mark and grand crus over $300. I thought $100 was enough.

[m. ristev]

still should retail around 60 euro for 1er cru in france. oddly enough up in quebec raveneau is still quite fair vs stateside pricing. $95 for clos anyone?
https://www.saq.com/page/fr/saqcom/vin- ... 2501358456

[Josh Grossman]

Snagged this from the last cellar offer!
https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=600007