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Got 2 angerville 05 in 375, Lambrays and the 750 were sold out.
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Just curious where you are seeing '05 Clos de Mouches for $109?
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Looking forward to these: 2018 Foradori Fontanasanta Manzoni Bianco Vigneti delle Dolomiti IGT
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Tempier? Not Terrebrune?
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Seriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.
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haven't seen the 05 but got an email about the 2015 for $95 today from European wine exchangeDennis Atick wrote: ↑November 18th, 2019, 6:17 pmJust curious where you are seeing '05 Clos de Mouches for $109?
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2018 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rose $25C Chen wrote: ↑November 20th, 2019, 3:27 pmSeriously doubt it was a direct offer at $24.
Thats what I paid.
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Dunno, Envoyer feels like wholesale prices compared to these guys.YLee wrote: ↑November 20th, 2019, 3:56 pmhttps://www.rollerswineandspirits.com/
They even had 2012 for same price.
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Looks like you got a helluva bargain on your Tempier. I wouldn't let one outlier dictate the quality of others' pricing. Flip it around for a moment: if there was one store selling it for $60, would Envoyer's pricing then be excellent? No.
Tempier's rose runs $35 - $45 these days, so Envoyer's pricing on that one is reasonable.
Tempier's rose runs $35 - $45 these days, so Envoyer's pricing on that one is reasonable.
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Tempier sells for $60 locally in my market (when it can be found). I bought mine from Envoyer earlier in the year for the same price ($39.99)Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote: ↑November 20th, 2019, 10:57 pm Looks like you got a helluva bargain on your Tempier. I wouldn't let one outlier dictate the quality of others' pricing. Flip it around for a moment: if there was one store selling it for $60, would Envoyer's pricing then be excellent? No.
Tempier's rose runs $35 - $45 these days, so Envoyer's pricing on that one is reasonable.
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Charles Noellat Beaune 2010 for $25? Yes, please.
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A wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?
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From the offer, I think this probably explains it;Dennis Atick wrote: ↑November 26th, 2019, 12:56 pmA wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?
Domaine Charles Noellat sold the majority of their holdings to Domaine Leroy in the late 80’s, but we were told by our supplier they kept a few lesser parcels for themselves.
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Ah, I see what you're saying now - No vintage entered, ever. Yes, strange. You'd think somewhere and some point, someone would have purchased a bottle and entered a note.Dennis Atick wrote: ↑November 26th, 2019, 12:56 pmA wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?
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OK, this explains it best I think;
https://www.winex.com/blog/2019/03/17/a ... los-genet/
Just a couple of weeks ago we introduced you to our newest source for incredibly-priced, perfectly-aged cellar treasure Burgundies, Charles Noellat. For those of you who may have missed the story while trying to click on that last offer before it sold out that day, here's the background info...
The Noellat name may be a familiar one to Winex customers, as its one of the most ubiquitous monikers in Burgundy’s Vosne-Romanee appellation. There are seemingly Noellats everywhere, including Hudelot-Noellat, Georges Noellat and Michel Noellat. But the Charles Noellat story is a quick one with, for us, a very happy ending.
Yes, there was a Domaine Charles Noellat for quite some time, having thrived with its fine terroir until it was sold to none other than Lalou Bize-Leroy back in 1988, helping form the backbone of Domaine Leroy. Her success can be attributed to her astute purchase of those historic vineyards!
The family, though they sold the domaine, luckily kept the rights to the name and original label of the domaine, which Anne Noellat's son, Stephan Moreau, now uses for his own unique négociant operation, Charles Noellat.
So, Charles Noellat rides again! Just on a different horse.
Now, he sources already-bottled wines directly from the cellars of Burgundian producers known for keeping older stocks squirreled away for a rainy day. Basically, he’s doing what we’re doing, but on a more local, intense, day-to-day level, and we’re loving the results.
He tastes he buys, he offers. We taste, we buy the best…we sell. Simple as that. Some wines are diamonds with greater clarity than others, but all are distinctive, all Burgundy.
I can’t tell you how much fun it is romping through an array of older Burgundies from sites all over the Cote d’Or and happening upon the gems. They’re not always Grand Cu, they’re not always the oldest, it’s the thrill of Burgundy, and it’s what we’re (ahem) pretty good at if I do say so myself.
https://www.winex.com/blog/2019/03/17/a ... los-genet/
Just a couple of weeks ago we introduced you to our newest source for incredibly-priced, perfectly-aged cellar treasure Burgundies, Charles Noellat. For those of you who may have missed the story while trying to click on that last offer before it sold out that day, here's the background info...
The Noellat name may be a familiar one to Winex customers, as its one of the most ubiquitous monikers in Burgundy’s Vosne-Romanee appellation. There are seemingly Noellats everywhere, including Hudelot-Noellat, Georges Noellat and Michel Noellat. But the Charles Noellat story is a quick one with, for us, a very happy ending.
Yes, there was a Domaine Charles Noellat for quite some time, having thrived with its fine terroir until it was sold to none other than Lalou Bize-Leroy back in 1988, helping form the backbone of Domaine Leroy. Her success can be attributed to her astute purchase of those historic vineyards!
The family, though they sold the domaine, luckily kept the rights to the name and original label of the domaine, which Anne Noellat's son, Stephan Moreau, now uses for his own unique négociant operation, Charles Noellat.
So, Charles Noellat rides again! Just on a different horse.
Now, he sources already-bottled wines directly from the cellars of Burgundian producers known for keeping older stocks squirreled away for a rainy day. Basically, he’s doing what we’re doing, but on a more local, intense, day-to-day level, and we’re loving the results.
He tastes he buys, he offers. We taste, we buy the best…we sell. Simple as that. Some wines are diamonds with greater clarity than others, but all are distinctive, all Burgundy.
I can’t tell you how much fun it is romping through an array of older Burgundies from sites all over the Cote d’Or and happening upon the gems. They’re not always Grand Cu, they’re not always the oldest, it’s the thrill of Burgundy, and it’s what we’re (ahem) pretty good at if I do say so myself.
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Seems easily worth the price of admission to try it out
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Yes. That was my point. Thanks for the additional info. Probably worth a flyer on a few at that price!Troy Stark wrote: ↑November 26th, 2019, 1:01 pmAh, I see what you're saying now - No vintage entered, ever. Yes, strange. You'd think somewhere and some point, someone would have purchased a bottle and entered a note.Dennis Atick wrote: ↑November 26th, 2019, 12:56 pmA wine that has never been entered into CT. That doesn't happen often. Not saying that means anything, just interesting. Anyone shed light on this bottling?
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I can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...
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Seems to be a negotiant bottle they purchased from someone as a one off. If it's not in there by the time I take delivery, I'll add it.Todd F r e n c h wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 3:46 pmI can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...
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No confirmation for me yetTroy Stark wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 3:58 pmSeems to be a negotiant bottle they purchased from someone as a one off. If it's not in there by the time I take delivery, I'll add it.Todd F r e n c h wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 3:46 pmI can't find it in CellarTracker, and I'm afraid to add it...
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Anybody get the 2013 Elvio Cogno Ravera Vigna Elena?
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Same. That usually means I get them, but no guarantee.Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑November 29th, 2019, 10:21 amI requested a few bottles but haven’t heard anything back.
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Requested a few, heard nothing. Fingers crossed it’s a Thanksgiving delay.Greg K wrote: ↑November 29th, 2019, 10:54 amSame. That usually means I get them, but no guarantee.Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑November 29th, 2019, 10:21 amI requested a few bottles but haven’t heard anything back.
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Finally got my confirmation. Was pretty sure I'd get some as I responded within 1 min of receiving the offer.
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now confirmed for 6Troy Stark wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2019, 10:09 amFinally got my confirmation. Was pretty sure I'd get some as I responded within 1 min of receiving the offer.
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Yep--my finger really twitched on that one but I have a few other things for which I am saving $.
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Didn’t get this one...how much was the offer?
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149.99 for Cornas
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Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.
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My last (and probably final) Raveneau purchase was the 2010 Montmains for $139 in late 2017. Gone, gone, gone...Troy Stark wrote: ↑December 4th, 2019, 5:42 am Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.
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yeah, I’m having trouble with premier crus passing the $200 mark and grand crus over $300. I thought $100 was enough.Dennis Atick wrote: ↑December 4th, 2019, 7:24 amMy last (and probably final) Raveneau purchase was the 2010 Montmains for $139 in late 2017. Gone, gone, gone...Troy Stark wrote: ↑December 4th, 2019, 5:42 am Scratch that, I did. $309 for the MdT 1er. Way too steep for me, especially since I purchased the 14 from Envoyer for ~250.
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still should retail around 60 euro for 1er cru in france. oddly enough up in quebec raveneau is still quite fair vs stateside pricing. $95 for clos anyone?
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Snagged this from the last cellar offer!
https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=600007
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