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#1 Post by c fu » April 17th, 2018, 10:05 pm

Here you guys go. A space to discuss other wines from Envoyer. I see that when people bring up non champagne in the champagne thread people always complain.

So here ya go. Go at it.
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#2 Post by Yao C » April 17th, 2018, 10:13 pm

In the last month I have bought 16 bottles from Envoyer, only one of which is Champagne neener
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#3 Post by c fu » April 17th, 2018, 10:43 pm

Yao C wrote:In the last month I have bought 16 bottles from Envoyer, only one of which is Champagne neener
ha. I bought my first btl of champagne from them this week in quite awhile. According to CT it's been 4 years. O_O
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#4 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » April 17th, 2018, 10:55 pm

Damn you, Charlie.
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#5 Post by C Chen » April 18th, 2018, 6:50 am

What’d you buy, Charlie? I can pick up for you (will be swinging by next week if my stuff’s ready). Lemme know.
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#6 Post by Brian Tuite » April 18th, 2018, 6:56 am

Does Envoyer sell Champagne?
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#7 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 18th, 2018, 6:59 am

Lol, people complain way way to much! Wah. Since when does any thread here stay on topic!?

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#8 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » April 18th, 2018, 7:00 am

Stop enabling me Charlie!
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#9 Post by C Chen » April 18th, 2018, 7:03 am

Damn, this thread attracts all the Brians.
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#10 Post by Robert M yers » April 18th, 2018, 7:09 am

Is this where I can post about all the Bourgogne closeout offers I get when all I really want is a decent champagne offer?

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#11 Post by Mattstolz » April 18th, 2018, 7:46 am

There was a back vintage Bordeaux email that came out earlier this week with some fantastic bottles listed. anyone grab any of those?

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#12 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » April 18th, 2018, 7:47 am

C Chen wrote:Damn, this thread attracts all the Brians.
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#13 Post by Scott Watkins » April 18th, 2018, 7:49 am

Hmm I think this thread is another attempt to harass someone by the mod who should have been fired ;)
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#14 Post by Brian Tuite » April 18th, 2018, 8:03 am

Scott Watkins wrote:Hmm I think this thread is another attempt to harass someone by the mod who should have been fired ;)
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#15 Post by Neal.Mollen » April 18th, 2018, 8:13 am

c fu wrote:I see that . . . people always complain.
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#16 Post by Craig G » April 18th, 2018, 10:16 am

C Chen wrote:Damn, this thread attracts all the Brians.
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#17 Post by Neal.Mollen » April 18th, 2018, 10:42 am

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#18 Post by Josh Grossman » April 18th, 2018, 11:23 am

I bit on the 2016 Alain Michelot Nuits St. Georges 1er ‘Les Champs Perdrix’ at $55 bones. Seems to be a great tariff for old vines in Cote de Nuits. About half the price of anything on Winesearcher and Cellartracker has most vintages over 92. What's not to like?

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#19 Post by James Dennis » April 21st, 2018, 6:53 am

Envoyer is pretty much the only retail store that I buy from anymore. Just too damn easily and the pricing is generally competitive. Nothing better than being on a long conference call when an email hits and thinking "I had no idea that I needed this bottle until now. 3 please."

For the most part, I find their Rhones and Piemontese bottles are what I'm looking for from these regions. And then the occasional Burgundy offer.

I'm scaling way back on purchases. This is the hardest one to quit.

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#20 Post by Neal.Mollen » April 21st, 2018, 6:57 am

It is probably a good thing that their non-champagne offerings are so limited in scope, and focused on wines in which I have limited interest. It makes it MUCH easier to simply delete their offerings. If they ever started offering bdx I'd be toast.

envoyer and cellaraiders seem to be 90% of my buying these days
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#21 Post by Josh Grossman » April 21st, 2018, 9:46 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:It is probably a good thing that their non-champagne offerings are so limited in scope, and focused on wines in which I have limited interest. It makes it MUCH easier to simply delete their offerings. If they ever started offering bdx I'd be toast.

envoyer and cellaraiders seem to be 90% of my buying these days
I'm on the Northern Rhone and Spatburgunder bandwagon so Fass Selections is in there too--but pretty much. I did snag a bottle of the Domaine Pichat Côte-Rôtie Le Champon from Envoyer this week. It's not his top bottling but JLL at Drink Rhone still gave the 2015 five stars and was only $60 bones.

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#22 Post by Bryan Price » April 22nd, 2018, 9:44 am

I need this thread. I don't know much about champagne! Envoyer is only 10 minutes from my work and house, so it's dangerously easy for me to respond to the offers. Can't believe how quickly some of them sell out! The 2014 Olga Raffault Chinon ‘Les Picasses’ sold out the day of the offer. Makes me think the pricing isn't high enough to match demand.
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#23 Post by Scott Brunson » April 22nd, 2018, 9:52 am

I bit on some Champagne too
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#24 Post by Mattstolz » April 22nd, 2018, 1:18 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:It is probably a good thing that their non-champagne offerings are so limited in scope, and focused on wines in which I have limited interest. It makes it MUCH easier to simply delete their offerings. If they ever started offering bdx I'd be toast.

envoyer and cellaraiders seem to be 90% of my buying these days
the bdx they do offer can be pretty tempting though. the average age of the bdx offers I get from them is like 20 years i think. as a new collector, thats pretty nice. Its why I can't visit cellaraiders very often either. haha

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#25 Post by R Nanda » April 30th, 2018, 9:49 am

PYCM Rose. Intrigued and bit for a few.
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#26 Post by Jonathan G » May 1st, 2018, 2:59 pm

Also picked up a couple of the PYCM roses. Seems fun, but does anyone have any experience with it?
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#27 Post by c fu » May 1st, 2018, 3:03 pm

Jonathan G wrote:Also picked up a couple of the PYCM roses. Seems fun, but does anyone have any experience with it?
yah. not bad.
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#28 Post by Warren Taranow » May 1st, 2018, 3:14 pm

Rich Nanda wrote:PYCM Rose. Intrigued and bit for a few.
Took a flyer on a couple as well.

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#29 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 8th, 2018, 5:27 pm

Smoking deal on 2009 Mastroberardino Taurasi Riserva Radici today. Anyone else grabbing some?
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#30 Post by R. Frankel » May 8th, 2018, 5:28 pm

Brian I’ve been staring at the Taurasi offer all day. Great deal!
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#31 Post by PaulMills » May 8th, 2018, 6:14 pm

R Nanda wrote:PYCM Rose. Intrigued and bit for a few.

I would really like to know how the algorithm is set to determine who gets which emails, I did not receive this one and would have picked up a couple. I think I will email Greg to inquire.

And Envoyer is one of the few non mailing lists places I buy from these days. There are a couple of local retailers and other online shops when the deal is right.

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#32 Post by Cris Whetstone » May 8th, 2018, 6:51 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:Smoking deal on 2009 Mastroberardino Taurasi Riserva Radici today. Anyone else grabbing some?
I tried but haven't received confirmation yet.

I'm recently back on the list after being off for a few years. The only other non-Champagne I went for I didn't get. Hoping it's not a thing. [wink.gif]
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#33 Post by ky1em!ttskus » May 8th, 2018, 7:59 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:Smoking deal on 2009 Mastroberardino Taurasi Riserva Radici today. Anyone else grabbing some?
I (hopefully) did. I’ve gotta slow down...

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#34 Post by Yao C » May 8th, 2018, 10:22 pm

Took a complete flyer on a mag of the 2013 Jean-Michel Stephan Cote Rotie "36 mois"

Did anyone else bite? Has anyone heard of this producer?
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#35 Post by c fu » May 8th, 2018, 11:10 pm

Yao C wrote:Took a complete flyer on a mag of the 2013 Jean-Michel Stephan Cote Rotie "36 mois"

Did anyone else bite? Has anyone heard of this producer?
i asked for a few. fun producer. no sulfur generally.
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#36 Post by bradkaplan » May 9th, 2018, 8:55 am

The 2009 Cocito/La Spinetta Barbaresco Riserva ‘Baluchin’ from a few days ago sounded more up my alley - awaiting response (speaking of which, what's a typical response time to get a confirmation?)
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#37 Post by Russ Williams » May 9th, 2018, 9:31 am

bradkaplan wrote:The 2009 Cocito/La Spinetta Barbaresco Riserva ‘Baluchin’ from a few days ago sounded more up my alley - awaiting response (speaking of which, what's a typical response time to get a confirmation?)
Brad it can take several days and even up to a week as they need to get confirmation from their supplier.
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#38 Post by John J » May 9th, 2018, 4:40 pm

Anyone bite on the 1999 Pierre Bourée Volnay 1er cru offer?
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#39 Post by PaulMills » May 9th, 2018, 5:20 pm

Russ Williams wrote:
bradkaplan wrote:The 2009 Cocito/La Spinetta Barbaresco Riserva ‘Baluchin’ from a few days ago sounded more up my alley - awaiting response (speaking of which, what's a typical response time to get a confirmation?)
Brad it can take several days and even up to a week as they need to get confirmation from their supplier.

And at other times, it can take ten minutes. I bit on the 2010 Conti Costanti Brunello di Montalcino today and had confirmation quick.

The time for confirmation can also be when they are trying to allocate 20 people a few bottles each rather than a few people a full case each, or so Greg explained one time.

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#40 Post by Yao C » May 9th, 2018, 6:42 pm

c fu wrote:
Yao C wrote:Took a complete flyer on a mag of the 2013 Jean-Michel Stephan Cote Rotie "36 mois"

Did anyone else bite? Has anyone heard of this producer?
i asked for a few. fun producer. no sulfur generally.
It gives me a lot of comfort to be buying the same thing as someone who knows much more about N Rhone [cheers.gif]

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#41 Post by Travis Fantz » May 9th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Sometimes it can take a 3-4 weeks. Sometimes it is on the water and they know exactly what they have coming. I have faith in their system. Saying that, they have delivered on every order. I think I have 30+ pending orders currently. At times they need confirmation from their international supply on orders. I would suspect that occasionally they get a higher request then expected and are trying to up their allocation. There are some wines I requested back in March that they just need to wait until they are bottled to confirm. I am just a school teacher, so I try to monitor my expenses. But Envoyer is one of my greatest...
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#42 Post by J. Galang » May 9th, 2018, 7:01 pm

Bit on the 2016 Clavelier Beauxmonts, ouch...
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#43 Post by Josh Grossman » May 9th, 2018, 9:55 pm

Asked for the 2015 Domaine Gilles Barge Côte-Rôtie Côte Blonde. I've had their Brune and St. Joseph but never the Blonde. Looking forward to trying it in 12 years.

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#44 Post by Scott Brunson » May 10th, 2018, 3:27 am

Took a flyer on a handful of the 04 Chandon de Briailles Ile des Verg Blanc. (but still awaiting confirmation)
We barrel tasted it with Claude all those years ago, so it would be nice if they are still sound.
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#45 Post by Howard Cooper » May 10th, 2018, 4:12 am

Scott Brunson wrote:Took a flyer on a handful of the 04 Chandon de Briailles Ile des Verg Blanc. (but still awaiting confirmation)
We barrel tasted it with Claude all those years ago, so it would be nice if they are still sound.
Me too. I am a sucker for aged white Burgundy that (at least from the email) is not premoxed. So long for the old days.
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#46 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » May 10th, 2018, 9:26 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:Smoking deal on 2009 Mastroberardino Taurasi Riserva Radici today. Anyone else grabbing some?
I grabbed a few of these the first time they were offered. Great deal!

Speaking of long confirms, has anyone here ordered any of the 2016 Michelot NSGs and gotten a confirm (or a no)? I ordered some from the first offering of 1er Crus, and then some of the villages from a later offering, and then some of the "in stock" 2015 village. Immediate confirm on the latter, which I get, on the former it's just been "we're still working on it with our supplier." Which I'm fine with, and I don't want to bug them, but OTOH, if it ain't coming I'd like to know that as well... This one has been weeks (maybe a month or two now?) and every other time the good news or bad has come much quicker.

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#47 Post by c fu » May 10th, 2018, 9:33 pm

D@ve D y r 0 f f wrote:
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:Smoking deal on 2009 Mastroberardino Taurasi Riserva Radici today. Anyone else grabbing some?
I grabbed a few of these the first time they were offered. Great deal!

Speaking of long confirms, has anyone here ordered any of the 2016 Michelot NSGs and gotten a confirm (or a no)? I ordered some from the first offering of 1er Crus, and then some of the villages from a later offering, and then some of the "in stock" 2015 village. Immediate confirm on the latter, which I get, on the former it's just been "we're still working on it with our supplier." Which I'm fine with, and I don't want to bug them, but OTOH, if it ain't coming I'd like to know that as well... This one has been weeks (maybe a month or two now?) and every other time the good news or bad has come much quicker.
I once requested two bottles of a wine in April. Got a confirmation in June (never got a reply before) and wasn't delivered until December. Fun times. [snort.gif]
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#48 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » May 10th, 2018, 11:41 pm

on the other hand, there's been at least a couple times I waited 3 - 6 weeks for a reply, never got one, followed-up, only to get a fairly quick response to my follow-up letting me know the answer was "No." That gives me the impression that things do sometimes fall through the cracks over there; when in doubt, send a quick little email.
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#49 Post by c fu » May 11th, 2018, 2:09 am

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:on the other hand, there's been at least a couple times I waited 3 - 6 weeks for a reply, never got one, followed-up, only to get a fairly quick response to my follow-up letting me know the answer was "No." That gives me the impression that things do sometimes fall through the cracks over there; when in doubt, send a quick little email.
I don’t consider that falling through the cracks. They can’t tell you every time you don’t get something.
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#50 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » May 11th, 2018, 11:41 am

So if you were running that business you would not let your customers know when their requests could not be filled? I would.
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