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#201 Post by Jim Erwin » October 1st, 2018, 5:56 am

Net gain of 15 bottles; loosing momentum.
Consumed- 21
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#202 Post by Jay Miller » October 1st, 2018, 6:27 am

Jeff Cassetta wrote:
September 30th, 2018, 5:49 pm
...but the must buys (2016 Dujac allocation) are still coming in.
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 5:32 am
We have annual purchases to be made in the next month,
Just my personal experience but cellar reduction is really hard even without must buys and annual purchases. The only way I've made even small headway is by eliminating them entirely. Impulse purchases are unfortunately more than enough to keep my inventory near stasis.

I don't expect progress in October as we'll be in Japan for the second half and I'll be in Omaha for a few days earlier on and there are no wine dinners scheduled.
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#203 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 1st, 2018, 7:15 am

Jay Miller wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 6:27 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 5:32 am
We have annual purchases to be made in the next month,
Just my personal experience but cellar reduction is really hard even without must buys and annual purchases. The only way I've made even small headway is by eliminating them entirely. Impulse purchases are unfortunately more than enough to keep my inventory near stasis.
True, but our annual purchases are our daily drinkers, for the most part, and we truly need a lifetime supply.:) We are trying to eliminate all impulse purchases, unless something astounding comes up. It's proving easier than I thought to resist the impulses. Almost nothing, at this point, is more tempting than what I already own and almost all categories of what we like are well represented. It's only the things we might run out of that we still need to buy.

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#204 Post by Robert Grenley » October 1st, 2018, 9:27 am

Many years ago, ? 28 maybe, I built out a cellar in my home with two piece cooling system and racking to hold about 2400 bottles. I remember when the 99 Red Burg vintage came out and I bought a lot, and with not enough room in the cellar I rented a small locker at a local wine storage facility. Then I realized that, for me, this was nonsensical. I auctioned off over 50 cases of wines that were no longer my cup of tea. I think that setting or adhering to a physical limit is very helpful...as opposed to succumbing to renting additional off site storage, etc.

My issue now, at age 64, is consuming what I have...specifically the upper end stuff. I find that I save my Burgs for dinners with other wine friends, which happens maybe once or twice a month, but on a daily basis I grab one of our house drinkers, white Bourgognes or red Bourgognes or lower priced domestic pinots, because it is easier and requires less forethought and planning, double decanting, etc. so then I buy more of these house drinkers to replenish the supply. The upper end wine buying otherwise has pretty much tapered to a trickle...I did buy a few 15 red Burgs, and only buy a bit of Rhys and Williams-Selyem as far as mailing lists.

I am not worried about what will happen to my cellar after I am gone...my wife and daughters like wine, and I have made a plan for how they can monetize any bottles that are more valuable than they wish to consume. But I need to change my habits of consumption...not save the better wines for some future “special occasions” of which there will never be enough to fully enjoy the number of such wines that I have, and stop buying house drinkers to keep my hands off the better wines. Making that transition, and knowing when to make it, is harder than I thought.
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#205 Post by dsimmons » October 1st, 2018, 12:31 pm

I did pretty good this month consuming 35 and purchasing only 12. Down 23 for the month and 91 YTD. Slow but sure progress toward my 2000 bottle goal.
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But I need to change my habits of consumption...not save the better wines for some future “special occasions” of which there will never be enough to fully enjoy the number of such wines that I have, and stop buying house drinkers to keep my hands off the better wines. Making that transition, and knowing when to make it, is harder than I thought.
These are good steps in the right direction that I am also working on. I stopped buying "daily drinkers" several years ago but still have cases in the cellar. Also working at dropping off of mailing lists where I will be too old to drink the wine when it matures.
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#206 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » October 1st, 2018, 2:09 pm

Continued failure in this regard.
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#207 Post by Jay Miller » October 1st, 2018, 6:05 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 7:15 am
Jay Miller wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 6:27 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 5:32 am
We have annual purchases to be made in the next month,
Just my personal experience but cellar reduction is really hard even without must buys and annual purchases. The only way I've made even small headway is by eliminating them entirely. Impulse purchases are unfortunately more than enough to keep my inventory near stasis.
True, but our annual purchases are our daily drinkers, for the most part, and we truly need a lifetime supply.:) We are trying to eliminate all impulse purchases, unless something astounding comes up. It's proving easier than I thought to resist the impulses. Almost nothing, at this point, is more tempting than what I already own and almost all categories of what we like are well represented. It's only the things we might run out of that we still need to buy.
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#208 Post by maureen nelson » October 1st, 2018, 6:15 pm

Shit. Plus net 17. I blame Kevin Harvey and Jeff Brinkman.

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#209 Post by Larry Link » October 1st, 2018, 11:05 pm

Net minus 34; one of my better months as in addition to normal consumption we sold a bunch thru K&L and threw a party where we went thru a ton of wine. That more than offsets my big 2016 PYCM purchase in the month. Still trying to get a handle on 2016 white burgundy, prices are up, quantities are down, and the wines seem to be variable depending on frost damage and pick dates. All these factors make for an unusually complex minefield, as you have to jump of the offers as soon as they come out or lose out on the allocation. First world problems I know. . .

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#210 Post by Joel Pulver » October 6th, 2018, 7:37 am

Reversing a trend:

Consumed: 3
Bought: 13

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#211 Post by Robert Grenley » October 7th, 2018, 7:32 pm

The most effective reduction in my buying has been as a result of premox in WB’s...I no longer buy white Burgs to cellar. Sadly.
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#212 Post by Steve Brickley » October 7th, 2018, 9:33 pm

Sold six cases using CT’s relationship with Benchmark.
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#213 Post by Peter Hirsch » October 21st, 2018, 6:12 am

It's shaping up to being a very successful year, wine reduction-wise.
Looking at assumed consumption and purchases for the next 2.5 months, I'll end 2018 down about 10%.
That's also down 25% from my high point, 2013.
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#214 Post by Robert R » October 21st, 2018, 6:20 am

What is the CT Benchmark relationship?
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#215 Post by Dennis Borczon » October 21st, 2018, 6:36 am

Just donating three cases to local charity dinner. Clearing out some older CdPs that are due to drink and that I have plenty of on deck. Feels actually good! Unfortunately made up for some of this by buying selective older burgs (case of Roumier Chambolle Musigny '06). I am still scratching my head about a Garagiste delivery of a case of cheaper Bordeaux...had a "Why the hell did I buy this stuff for again?" moment.

With the 6 month delay in shipping I sometimes have to go back to the original offers to remember what possessed me to get these "deals" in the first place. Ever happen to anyone else?

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#216 Post by David Glasser » October 21st, 2018, 6:45 am

Dennis Borczon wrote:
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With the 6 month delay in shipping I sometimes have to go back to the original offers to remember what possessed me to get these "deals" in the first place. Ever happen to anyone else?
That, and sometimes realizing I’ve already got some waiting to ship just as I’m about to place an order. I used to remember everything in the cellar or pending and in most cases where I got it.

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#217 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 21st, 2018, 8:01 am

Robert R wrote:
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What is the CT Benchmark relationship?
Yes, please. What is this relationship?
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#218 Post by Russ Williams » October 21st, 2018, 8:31 am

Comparing the previous 2 years of purchases against my YTD total, I’m about 150 bottles less. There is no way I’ll be buying 150 bottles over the next 2 months, so the challenge is going to be to keep my purchases to only a couple of cases. I think I can...I think I can...I think I can...
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#219 Post by Mark Y » October 21st, 2018, 8:54 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 8:01 am
Robert R wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 6:20 am
What is the CT Benchmark relationship?
Yes, please. What is this relationship?
CT made an announcement on this I think.
Basically CT created a “selling list” function where u can add a wine to your selling list.
Then you can one click and send your sell list to benchmark.
They will then come back and say which wines they will accept and give you an offer.
You then negotiate. Ship it out. Etc. really easy.

I sold a few cases to benchmark through this as well.
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#220 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 21st, 2018, 9:33 am

Mark Y wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 8:54 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 8:01 am
Robert R wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 6:20 am
What is the CT Benchmark relationship?
Yes, please. What is this relationship?
CT made an announcement on this I think.
Basically CT created a “selling list” function where u can add a wine to your selling list.
Then you can one click and send your sell list to benchmark.
They will then come back and say which wines they will accept and give you an offer.
You then negotiate. Ship it out. Etc. really easy.

I sold a few cases to benchmark through this as well.
Very interesting! Thanks for the info
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#221 Post by M. Dildine » October 21st, 2018, 11:18 am

M. Dildine wrote:
April 1st, 2018, 12:05 pm
As of today, I hold 703 bottles. Goal is to get to 675 by year end. We consume about 350 bottles per year (two year inventory).

My major purchases (mostly through mailing lists) come over two periods: Jan - March and June - Aug. My strategy is to purchase fewer bottles each month versus what I did the previous year.
The buying season is mostly behind me and I stand at 685 (including purchases yet to be delivered) at the moment. With a modicum of continued discipline, should make my (fairly modest) goal for the year.
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#222 Post by Jim Erwin » October 31st, 2018, 2:49 pm

Net reduction of 21 bottles; regaining momentum.
Consumed- 28
Purchased- 7

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#223 Post by David Glasser » November 1st, 2018, 2:40 am

Back on track, barely.
Bought 8.
Drank 11.
Minus 3 for October.

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#224 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » November 1st, 2018, 5:23 am

Another failure:

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+32 Net

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#225 Post by dsimmons » November 1st, 2018, 12:31 pm

October was good with 24 consumed and 7 purchased for a -17. For the year so far I am down 108. This has made a real difference in the cellar where I have way less wine strewn on the floor and some of my racking actually has space to rack new arrivals.

Next year I am going to try to reduce my mailing list purchases by 50%.
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#226 Post by Bob Davis » November 1st, 2018, 12:51 pm

Failing miserably. We lost all impulse control while in Napa/Sonoma last month. The boxes just keep coming.
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#227 Post by Subu Ramachandran » November 1st, 2018, 1:06 pm

It's getting out of control, hence stopped keeping a track!

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#228 Post by BLittle » November 1st, 2018, 1:11 pm

net +4 (bought 23 consumed 19)

the "good" news is that i have finally convinced myself to sell/auction a chunk.
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#229 Post by Mark Y » November 1st, 2018, 1:23 pm

It's been great.. near 700 in the Spring.. down to 550ish now. fantastic execution of cellar reduction plan!
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#230 Post by Bud Carey » November 1st, 2018, 1:30 pm

I'm down about 100 bottles from around this time last year. Slow but sure.
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#231 Post by Jeff O k e a n » November 1st, 2018, 1:34 pm

I've more or less quit drinking altogether about six months ago. I sent off 108 bottles last to be auctioned off month, and about 84 same number of bottles earlier in the year. My collection topped out at around 600 bottles when I moved to FL in 1999, and except for a few year of minimal growth until 2005 or so; it has been steadily sold off, over the last few years. I have only about 5 cases left; and will be selling two Eurocave Confort 266s here, as soon as I reach 25 posts

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#232 Post by Eric Ifune » November 2nd, 2018, 8:54 am

I've been failing. Hadn't bought any table wines in the past three years. In just the past 6 months, bought 5 cases. hitsfan

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#233 Post by David Glasser » November 2nd, 2018, 12:56 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
November 1st, 2018, 5:23 am
Another failure:

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Sarah, I like the way you fail!

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#234 Post by Jay Miller » November 2nd, 2018, 12:57 pm

October was pretty much a wash. Opened 0, bought 3. A lot of events coming up in November fortunately.

Beginning: 644
Goal: 600
Current 630

April: +0, -5 639
May: +0 -13 626
June: +13, -11 628
July: +13, -0 641
August: +9, -14 636
September:+2, -11 627
October:+3, -0, 630
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#235 Post by Jonathan Loesberg » November 2nd, 2018, 1:23 pm

Jay Miller wrote:
November 2nd, 2018, 12:57 pm
October was pretty much a wash. Opened 0, bought 3. A lot of events coming up in November fortunately.

Beginning: 644
Goal: 600
Current 630

April: +0, -5 639
May: +0 -13 626
June: +13, -11 628
July: +13, -0 641
August: +9, -14 636
September:+2, -11 627
October:+3, -0, 630
Looks like you've been moving sideways more than down. I'd say the problem is on the consumption side. You need to become more consumptive.

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#236 Post by T. Melloni » November 2nd, 2018, 1:26 pm

Cellar inventory reduction plan?

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#237 Post by Jay Miller » November 2nd, 2018, 1:32 pm

Jonathan Loesberg wrote:
November 2nd, 2018, 1:23 pm
Jay Miller wrote:
November 2nd, 2018, 12:57 pm
October was pretty much a wash. Opened 0, bought 3. A lot of events coming up in November fortunately.

Beginning: 644
Goal: 600
Current 630

April: +0, -5 639
May: +0 -13 626
June: +13, -11 628
July: +13, -0 641
August: +9, -14 636
September:+2, -11 627
October:+3, -0, 630
Looks like you've been moving sideways more than down. I'd say the problem is on the consumption side. You need to become more consumptive.
I'll cough up a few bottles when you're in town.
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#238 Post by maureen nelson » November 2nd, 2018, 6:51 pm

Well I am +1 for October but all 14 bottles I bought are birthyear wines for others (13:for my 2014-born greand nephew and one for my brother, who is a 1959 baby).

So i call that a win!

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#239 Post by Frank Murray III » November 3rd, 2018, 11:08 am

I dumped all my Burg and Rhone this week. This should give me another 60 slots of space and some breathing room, plus a lot of free cash for Champagne to backfill some of this inventory. flirtysmile
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#240 Post by Jayson Cohen » November 3rd, 2018, 12:13 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
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I dumped all my Burg and Rhone this week.
Wow!! A man of conviction!!

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#241 Post by Frank Murray III » November 3rd, 2018, 1:24 pm

Jayson Cohen wrote:
November 3rd, 2018, 12:13 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
November 3rd, 2018, 11:08 am
I dumped all my Burg and Rhone this week.
Wow!! A man of conviction!!
Jayson, I refuse to take on another Vinotemp so it's part of just making the right decision to adjust for the space I have, which is 600 slots. And, it serves a second goal, which is to get my cellar equal to 50/50 of Champage/Still Wine. Flipping 60 is going to accelerate me getting there, beeeeg time.
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#242 Post by Kirk.Grant » November 3rd, 2018, 3:11 pm

So far I'm -30 for 2018 on the whole. If I can maintain this for 3-4 years that will help me finally get them down to the amount I want/need. Which is about 60-90 bottles less than I already have. Then if I can maintain that level it will work out just fine.
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#243 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » November 3rd, 2018, 6:57 pm

David Glasser wrote:
November 2nd, 2018, 12:56 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
November 1st, 2018, 5:23 am
Another failure:

58 Consumed
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+32 Net
Sarah, I like the way you fail!
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#244 Post by Jay Miller » November 30th, 2018, 5:28 am

I'm treading water but at least I'm not sinking.

Beginning: 644
Goal: 600
Current 628

April: +0, -5 639
May: +0 -13 626
June: +13, -11 628
July: +13, -0 641
August: +9, -14 636
September:+2, -11 627
October:+3, -0, 630
November: +8, -10, 628
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#245 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » November 30th, 2018, 10:34 am

Ugh. Utter and total failure.

28 Consumed (traveling most of the month)
106 Purchased

Why do I keep up this fiction?

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#246 Post by maureen nelson » November 30th, 2018, 2:07 pm

Since I started this thread on April 1, i am down net 34 bottles. For the year, however, I am up net 4. In November, I am down 22.

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#247 Post by Jim Erwin » November 30th, 2018, 2:17 pm

November:
Net gain of 31 bottles; backsliding badly.
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Purchased- 62

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Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

#248 Post by Neal.Mollen » November 30th, 2018, 3:13 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
November 30th, 2018, 10:34 am
Ugh. Utter and total failure.

28 Consumed (traveling most of the month)
106 Purchased

Why do I keep up this fiction?
LOL! I think you just have the arrow turned in the wrong direction
I don't have to speak; she defends me

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Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

#249 Post by Gary Zimberg » November 30th, 2018, 4:16 pm

ok I need to try this to get more serious about reducing my inventory.
Sept +17, -12 = net gain of +5
Oct +29, -15 so net gain of +14
Nov, +16 -10 = net gain of +6

I really have reduced my purchases, but not nearly enough. When I look at it comparing year over year, its very bad. Ending with a +62 for 2018 and it is the lowest gain in the past 5 years by a factor between (2 x 5x)
* footnote I do not enter our daily drinkers into CT being; Barbera (unless its a Cru), Dolcetto, Bourgogne or Bojo's anymore, and its what we drink the most of so my consumed is not accurate.
This thread makes it very obvious I need to exercise much more control. I am going to resolve to end 2019 with a Net Reduction in Wine, yes I said it outloud!


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Re: Monthly check-in: Cellar inventory reduction plan

#250 Post by dsimmons » December 1st, 2018, 2:24 pm

November is good with 22 consumed and 11 purchased for a net -11. Down 123 YTD. At the current rate two years away from goal of 2000 bottles.
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