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#1 Post by Todd Hamina » January 29th, 2018, 10:32 am

After reading the "Pinot noir, in a warmer world" thread in which a publicist places some excellent drivel into Bloomberg I wondered what about the teeny tiny places that make lovely wines and never get a chance to show the world. We already know that I will shill and am an attention whore, so I thought why not add some names to the hit list of Oregon that people could visit or purchase from or both. Think of it as a locals recommendation. The nice thing about it is that it could be completely repeatable in other wine growing communities. I used teeny tiny, but people can type whatever they like. Here goes the shill part:

Mellen Meyer
- Bobby Rowett has a screw loose. Bubbles, the guy makes sparklers in OR on a small scale.

Maloof
- Ross and Bee make tiny amounts of heart throbbingly tasty juice. Gewürztraminer... who does that?

Jackalope
- Corey is a silly person. White Cab Franc and a ripper of a Viognier.

Quady North
-Herb Quady may push the limits on teeny tiny (cuz not), but in Southern Oregon you need all the help you can get. Show some love.

Claygate Estate
- Deb and Rick bought land a quarter mile from Brickhouse. Everyone told them to plant so they did. Really they raise Alpacas. * I help.

Gypsy Dancer
- Christine resurrected this brand and it is delish. Bigger Gary Andrus styled wines. * I help.

SchöneTal
- Dave only wants to make pinot using the Pommard clone, what a kook. * I help.

Cayuse
- A French guy named Christophe in Oregon cattle country needs help, everyone thinks he's in Washington.


* I either get paid or I get free fruit.

So check out these lesser known folks, and please add to the list. If there is interest I will add to the list. Check them out! Thanks.
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#2 Post by Scott Tallman » January 29th, 2018, 10:53 am

Thanks, Todd. I’ve had Mellen Meyer (didn’t he work under Marcus?) on my “to try” list for some time. Same for Maloof and Jackalope. Hopefully people will check out Christophe’s various projects. He needs a lot of help.

A few other upstart WV wineries I want to try include Statera, Twill, Minimus, Day, Beckham Estate, Fossil & Fawn, Shiva Wichern. Any locals’ thoughts on these wineries would be greatly appreciated.

Need to branch out more on my visits instead of hitting the usuals, riding my bike around, and drink Heater Allen. And I need to visit you again, and finally try Vincent’s wines.
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#3 Post by MitchTallan » January 29th, 2018, 11:02 am

Jacqui Maloof? Didn't she once do a BBQ show with Bobby Flay?

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#4 Post by G. Bienstock » January 29th, 2018, 11:04 am

MitchTallan wrote:Jacqui Maloof? Didn't she once do a BBQ show with Bobby Flay?
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#5 Post by CJ Beazley » January 29th, 2018, 11:05 am

Do any of these people also consult with MIT? [stirthepothal.gif]
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#6 Post by terrance.c » January 29th, 2018, 1:39 pm

Authentique / Nicolas Keeler makes some really good pinot and chardonnay.
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#7 Post by Dave H. » January 29th, 2018, 1:44 pm

Scott Tallman wrote:Thanks, Todd. I’ve had Mellen Meyer (didn’t he work under Marcus?) on my “to try” list for some time. Same for Maloof and Jackalope. Hopefully people will check out Christophe’s various projects. He needs a lot of help.

A few other upstart WV wineries I want to try include Statera, Twill, Minimus, Day, Beckham Estate, Fossil & Fawn, Shiva Wichern. Any locals’ thoughts on these wineries would be greatly appreciated.

Need to branch out more on my visits instead of hitting the usuals, riding my bike around, and drink Heater Allen. And I need to visit you again, and finally try Vincent’s wines.
Not a local but had a couple of skin contact pinot gris from Fossil & Fawn and thought they were most compelling.
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#8 Post by Cody S » January 29th, 2018, 3:03 pm

We visited Claygate and tasted Schone Tal with Todd when we visited in Oct. I highly recommend checking both of these out! Deb and Rick at Claygate were incredibly nice and have a beautiful sight and facility with a banquet barn. Also, if you visit be sure and ask Rick about his love for the Alpacas [stirthepothal.gif]
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#9 Post by Jim Anderson » January 29th, 2018, 3:30 pm

Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
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#10 Post by Blake Brown » January 29th, 2018, 4:02 pm

Nice post and helpful- thanks.

Big fan of Gypsy Dancer before and after Gary. BTW, I do not find the 2012 or 2013 Legacy to be anywhere close to being big or a bigger style than Gary`s. For me, they have elegance, are light in weight and have nice, soft, pleasant fruit profiles with mild acidity. Perhaps you did not "help" out on those or my palate is fried?
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#11 Post by Steven Miller » January 29th, 2018, 4:15 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
At least one of their vineyards is in Oregon.

Checking to see where they all are is a challenge since they aren't entered into every vine. Which of these are in the Oregon part of the WW AVA?

https://cayusevineyards.com/static/vine ... rview.html
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#12 Post by Todd Hamina » January 29th, 2018, 5:07 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
Production is in Milton-Freewater, OR and the tasting room is in Walla Walla.
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#13 Post by dave kammerer » January 29th, 2018, 5:49 pm

Check out 1789 Wines. Outstanding pinot noir.

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#14 Post by Todd Hamina » January 29th, 2018, 7:57 pm

Good one Dave, Isabelle makes lovely wines.

And Blake, I did not help with the 12 or 13 with Gypsy Dancer.
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#15 Post by Andy Steinman » January 29th, 2018, 10:18 pm

Violin Wines - Will Hamilton - Will made his wines with us at Walter Scott

Prive Winery - Tina and Mark Hammond - Small Chehalem Mountains producer with a great track record since their first vintage in 2001.
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#16 Post by Todd Hamina » January 30th, 2018, 10:32 am

MitchTallan wrote:Jacqui Maloof? Didn't she once do a BBQ show with Bobby Flay?
Different Maloof. They are over at Day Camp, which is a good stop too.
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#17 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » January 30th, 2018, 11:16 am

Steven Miller wrote:
Jim Anderson wrote:Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
At least one of their vineyards is in Oregon.

Checking to see where they all are is a challenge since they aren't entered into every vine. Which of these are in the Oregon part of the WW AVA?

https://cayusevineyards.com/static/vine ... rview.html
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#18 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » January 30th, 2018, 11:26 am

Scott Tallman wrote:Thanks, Todd. I’ve had Mellen Meyer (didn’t he work under Marcus?) on my “to try” list for some time. Same for Maloof and Jackalope. Hopefully people will check out Christophe’s various projects. He needs a lot of help.

A few other upstart WV wineries I want to try include Statera, Twill, Minimus, Day, Beckham Estate, Fossil & Fawn, Shiva Wichern. Any locals’ thoughts on these wineries would be greatly appreciated.

Need to branch out more on my visits instead of hitting the usuals, riding my bike around, and drink Heater Allen. And I need to visit you again, and finally try Vincent’s wines.
Bobby was my assistant winemaker, for about a year and a half. Great guy and to be honest, he came to work for me because he liked the wines, but what he’s doing with Mellon Meyer is very much his own personality. Excellent wines, They’re delicious.

Twill is also quite solid, I particularly like the Chardonnay and Rosé, but all the wines are good. The winemaker, Chris Dickson, also did a brief stage at my winery, but brought a very good concept and process with him. I highly recommend both of these producers.

Beckham Estate is another that I like quite a bit.
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#19 Post by John Peacock » January 30th, 2018, 2:08 pm

Todd Hamina wrote:
Jim Anderson wrote:Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
Production is in Milton-Freewater, OR and the tasting room is in Walla Walla.
All of their vineyards as well as all production is in Oregon. They keep their "tasting room" in downtown Walla Walla so they can be a part of the Washington winery associations. That "tasting room" is only for show, is never open, and I've heard they have to keep a single barrel of wine there so it is a "production" space to be a part of the winery associations. Actual tastings happen at the winery in Oregon only on one weekend a year in April.

Cayuse is an Oregon winery, no other way around it.
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#20 Post by dsGriswold » January 30th, 2018, 2:13 pm

Are Rasa and Delmas/SJR on the OR side of the border?
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#21 Post by JPWilley » January 30th, 2018, 3:41 pm

Todd Hamina wrote: Gypsy Dancer
- Christine resurrected this brand and it is delish. Bigger Gary Andrus styled wines. * I help.
Christine broke the mold. Somebody reconstructed it and made Todd. She's a blast to hang out with.

Redman - just up the hill from Beaux Freres/PGC. I'm a Ribbon Ridge addict (once you get the Syrah out of my blood) and this is great stuff.
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#22 Post by Todd Hamina » January 30th, 2018, 3:59 pm

And Denison too.
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#23 Post by P. Willenberg » January 30th, 2018, 7:23 pm

Franny Beck. Hope you got his BDIX offer.
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#24 Post by Brandon J. » January 30th, 2018, 7:28 pm

I cannot stress enough how cool Beckham Estate's wines are. The couple running the place are some of the nicest people you will meet and they are truly doing something unique, not just to Oregon but in the US. The amphora wines are just so cool and what they've put together is something really special.

I strongly encourage folks to try their wines and check their facility out.
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#25 Post by P. Willenberg » January 30th, 2018, 7:30 pm

Another board member, paetra
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#26 Post by P. Willenberg » January 30th, 2018, 7:31 pm

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#27 Post by AnneHubatch » January 30th, 2018, 7:38 pm

I'll add a few:

Matzinger Davies
Leah Jorgenson Cellars
Viola Wines
Project M Wines
Bjornson Vineyard and Winery
Helioterra Wines (Myself)

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#28 Post by Todd Hamina » January 30th, 2018, 7:39 pm

The amphora are cool. He is a high school ceramics teacher and makes them on site too. I bought some of their wines, wonder where I put them.
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#29 Post by GregT » January 30th, 2018, 8:27 pm

What a great thread. Nothing to add, but thanks for all the new projects to look into.
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#30 Post by Steven Miller » January 30th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Over the past 5 years, Oregon has added 75 new wineries.

Could it be we have more wineries than breweries?

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#31 Post by Brandon J. » January 30th, 2018, 8:48 pm

Todd Hamina wrote:The amphora are cool. He is a high school ceramics teacher and makes them on site too. I bought some of their wines, wonder where I put them.
You should find them!

As a person who's fascinated with discerning vineyard site/AVA/clone I love the amphora vessels. They give the wines structure while allowing the fruit to be completely unadulterated. I hope he starts pulling fruit from other sites so you can really see difference in vineyard.
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#32 Post by Rolf Winterthur » January 30th, 2018, 9:52 pm

Todd Hamina wrote:
Jim Anderson wrote:Isn't Cayuse in Washington? Was that a joke and I missed it?
Production is in Milton-Freewater, OR and the tasting room is in Walla Walla.
Oregon's newest AVA -> Milton-Freewater Rocks District. These rocks made Cayuse what it is today. I am a big enough fan that my 6 character limited OR license plate says ROX AVA.
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#33 Post by Rolf Winterthur » January 30th, 2018, 9:58 pm

dsGriswold wrote:Are Rasa and Delmas/SJR on the OR side of the border?
Rasa (friends) are quite close to M-F Rocks, though in WA (nice tax), they are 3500 feet from Oregon. Their range spans WA and OR, mainly because they do so many varietals. Not under the radar, nor is Cayuse/No Girls/Horsepower et al.
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#34 Post by dsGriswold » January 30th, 2018, 11:53 pm

How about Minimus? Cant't get smaller than that.
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#35 Post by Rick Allen » January 31st, 2018, 9:41 am

Steven Miller wrote:Over the past 5 years, Oregon has added 75 new wineries.

Could it be we have more wineries than breweries?

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#36 Post by Tim Wilson » January 31st, 2018, 11:22 am

Long Play. Definitely worth a visit.

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#37 Post by Tim Wilson » January 31st, 2018, 11:23 am

Long Play. Definitely worth a visit.

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#38 Post by ToddHansen » January 31st, 2018, 12:13 pm

Tim Wilson wrote:Long Play. Definitely worth a visit.
Thanks for the mention, Tim! Your wines are great, too. [cheers.gif]
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#39 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » January 31st, 2018, 12:46 pm

How are you defining “teeny tiny”?

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#40 Post by John Peacock » January 31st, 2018, 1:00 pm

Rolf Winterthur wrote:
dsGriswold wrote:Are Rasa and Delmas/SJR on the OR side of the border?
Rasa (friends) are quite close to M-F Rocks, though in WA (nice tax), they are 3500 feet from Oregon. Their range spans WA and OR, mainly because they do so many varietals. Not under the radar, nor is Cayuse/No Girls/Horsepower et al.
SJR vineyard is in Oregon (in The Rocks District of Milton-Freewater). I don't know where the Delmas wines are made, so not sure of that.
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#41 Post by Todd Hamina » January 31st, 2018, 3:14 pm

Scott Fitzgerald wrote:How are you defining “teeny tiny”?
Very, very small or obscure. Or they just need some love. Or any other reason that seems appropriate. It's all quite scientific.
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#42 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » January 31st, 2018, 3:52 pm

Todd Hamina wrote:
Scott Fitzgerald wrote:How are you defining “teeny tiny”?
Very, very small or obscure. Or they just need some love. Or any other reason that seems appropriate. It's all quite scientific.
Fair enough. Didn't know if there was some 'cases produced' threshold, etc. Thanks for getting the thread started.

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#43 Post by dsGriswold » January 31st, 2018, 4:02 pm

Rasa makes Delmas and I think they now have an estate vineyard, Billo Naravane MW is the winemaker and the winery is on the WA side of Stateline Rd.
SJR Vineyard Planted in 2007, this 9.6-acre vineyard is in The Rocks District of Milton-Freewater AVA is owned by Steve and Mary Robertson. We currently source Syrah from this vineyard, and our estate vineyard will be adjacent to this vineyard.
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#44 Post by S t e p h e nK » January 31st, 2018, 8:03 pm

Terry at Upper Five in S. OR is doing a great job.

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#45 Post by Steven Miller » January 31st, 2018, 8:13 pm

Perhaps we need a definition like in beer:

Pico-Brewery < 500 barrels a year
Nano-Brewery < 1000 barrels a year
Micro-Brewery < 3000 barrels a year
Craft-Brewery < whatever Sam Adams produces (aka the Craft Brew Alliance is on the take so Sam Adams will always be a Craft Brewery no matter how BIG they get)
Omfg-Brewery (or owned by MillerCoors or AB InBev)
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#46 Post by Tim Wilson » January 31st, 2018, 11:43 pm

Ok. At about 800 cases per year, that would put me in the pico category.

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#47 Post by Todd Hamina » February 1st, 2018, 9:51 am

Love and Squalor. Easily the best name in the biz.
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#48 Post by Scott Tallman » February 1st, 2018, 10:20 am

Todd Hamina wrote:Love and Squalor. Easily the best name in the biz.
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#49 Post by Richard T r i m p i » February 1st, 2018, 12:07 pm

AnneHubatch wrote:I'll add a few:
Matzinger Davies
Only tasted a couple of times but thought the Pinots were very tasty. It's been a few years. Definitely not in the Archery Summit style.

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#50 Post by John Osburn » February 1st, 2018, 12:52 pm

Brandborg in Umpqua Valley. Very nice cool-climate PN and several whites.

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