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#51 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » July 6th, 2018, 8:10 pm

Big spread between London and the US for the offers I've received - $100 vs $135.
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#52 Post by Warren Taranow » July 7th, 2018, 5:57 am

Russ Williams wrote:What was the price?
$115. Hard to justify when the '06 can be found for about the same (slightly less), but I'm an expert at rationalizing my purchases.
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#53 Post by Russ Williams » July 7th, 2018, 8:18 am

At $115 a big no thanks.
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#54 Post by Frank Murray III » July 7th, 2018, 8:21 am

I sold all of mine off a week or so ago. Done with Comtes and the poor bottle shape, amongst a few other reasons.
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#55 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 7th, 2018, 9:23 am

Frank Murray III wrote:I sold all of mine off a week or so ago. Done with Comtes and the poor bottle shape, amongst a few other reasons.
LOL, seriously? I am curious what the "other" reasons are. The bottle shape is kind of a pain, but I got some champagne racks to take care of that (Taittinger is not the only offender). I love the stuff.
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#56 Post by Russ Williams » July 7th, 2018, 9:39 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
Frank Murray III wrote:I sold all of mine off a week or so ago. Done with Comtes and the poor bottle shape, amongst a few other reasons.
LOL, seriously? I am curious what the "other" reasons are. The bottle shape is kind of a pain, but I got some champagne racks to take care of that (Taittinger is not the only offender). I love the stuff.
I’ll take a wild guess...Frank has a strong preference for low to zero dosage bubbly.
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#57 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 7th, 2018, 9:49 am

Everything being equal I do too, but everything is almost never equal, and I love this champagne. But I have drawn some pretty dogmatic lines too so I get it
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#58 Post by Frank Murray III » July 7th, 2018, 10:54 am

In part, Russ is correct. My palate prefers the lower dosage wines, which mirrors my regular preferences now for food. I don't typically like sweet desserts, don't drink soda and really avoid anything that is sweet b/c I don't care for it. So, low to no dosage wines work for me and match what I enjoy. A couple recent Comtes bottles seemed a little too much lemon-lime soda in tone for me.

And, the other thing that is perhaps dogmatic and I accept that is I want to drink organic or bio farmed champagne. The recent trip really left a deep impact upon me and when I got back, I decided to sell off my Comtes. As I have said, I don't begrudge or judge those who like the big houses like Taitt but I will not buy them any longer. With the dozen or so producers from Champagne that I now continue to drink and support, they all fit my dogma. Taitt Comtes does not.
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#59 Post by Ron Slye » July 7th, 2018, 12:49 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
Russ Williams wrote:What was the price?
$115. Hard to justify when the '06 can be found for about the same (slightly less), but I'm an expert at rationalizing my purchases.
I just saw the 07 about two weeks ago at Duty Free in the Frankfurt airport. If I remember correctly it was about US $130 (??).

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#60 Post by p@ulbortin » July 7th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Had another stellar bottle of comtes 06 over the holiday. Easy to store.

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#61 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 7th, 2018, 10:42 pm

Weird decision making by Taittinger to make 07 but not 09.

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#62 Post by Jay Miller » July 8th, 2018, 3:54 am

I’ve had some really good 2007s so I’m curious to try the Comtes. Unfortunately/fortunately I couldn’t find enough people willing to go in on a case.

Just as well probably from an inventory reduction standpoint.
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#63 Post by Blake Brown » July 10th, 2018, 11:33 am

Just had another bottle of the 06` CdC and it was the best yet; in fact, it kicked an 08` Cristal`s ass:

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#64 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 18th, 2018, 4:47 pm

OH MAN! I have had a number of bottles of this 2006, but this afternoon some friends were in from Seattle and I took a bottle to lunch at Solage to enjoy with them. They are just honing their Champagne palates, so it was fun...and great that this was probably my best of these.
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#65 Post by Chris Seiber » March 31st, 2019, 4:40 pm

I opened a 2006 a few days ago and it was excellent. As my wife noted, it walks a nice balance between the lean and the opulent styles. Great acid, energy, mineral, but also some depth and good fruit.

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#66 Post by Robert M yers » March 31st, 2019, 5:55 pm

Is it Still true that they won’t bottle 09-11? I thought 09-10 were decent enough vintages.

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#67 Post by Blake Brown » April 1st, 2019, 6:58 am

Chris Seiber wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 4:40 pm
I opened a 2006 a few days ago and it was excellent. As my wife noted, it walks a nice balance between the lean and the opulent styles. Great acid, energy, mineral, but also some depth and good fruit.
This has been a consistent winner and as you experienced Chris, it just keeps on giving immense joy each time out. Love it that your wife is into it as well.
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#68 Post by Brad Baker » April 1st, 2019, 7:59 am

Robert M yers wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 5:55 pm
Is it Still true that they won’t bottle 09-11? I thought 09-10 were decent enough vintages.
I have not asked in a while as to what will be released from 2009-2011, but they made/bottled Comtes BdB in 2011 and Comtes Rose in 2009.

The issue with 2009 in Champagne was the economy. Most of the cellars were full and vintage/prestige wines were not selling. The year was seen as vintage worthy, but for the larger producers a lot of wine ended up as reserves for future NV blends. A number of folks regretted this then and do even more so now as the vintage has developed far better than most initially predicted.

2010 is not a good vintage as mold was rampant. Through selection, decent wine could be made and the year is uniform in a mostly below-average way, but for prestige wine, most of the larger producers skipped this year as there wasn't enough quantity of high end grapes to make it worth their effort. Some specific spots did well, but on a whole, this is not a year to look for.

2011 was a year of picking too early IMO. A lot of the wines lacked ripeness, but when picked appropriately, 2011 is a good deal better than 2010. The biggest issue is the year is not uniform in quality so there are quite a few ups and downs. The other issue is that many people wrote 2011 off early as many wines (normally not the highest in quality producers/labels) showed a lot of green/under ripe notes. With time this has started to fade, but the year got a reputation for being horrible and some producers who bottled a prestige wine, just decided to not risk trying to market and sell it.
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#69 Post by Chris Seiber » April 2nd, 2019, 12:07 am

Brad Baker wrote:
April 1st, 2019, 7:59 am

2011 was a year of picking too early IMO. A lot of the wines lacked ripeness, but when picked appropriately, 2011 is a good deal better than 2010. The biggest issue is the year is not uniform in quality so there are quite a few ups and downs. The other issue is that many people wrote 2011 off early as many wines (normally not the highest in quality producers/labels) showed a lot of green/under ripe notes. With time this has started to fade, but the year got a reputation for being horrible and some producers who bottled a prestige wine, just decided to not risk trying to market and sell it.
Paging Frank Murray. This sounds right in your sweet spot, my friend. Lacking ripeness, green, underripe notes.

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#70 Post by Howard Cooper » April 2nd, 2019, 5:56 pm

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Last year, I had a wonderful 1990 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=136256&p=2181882&hi ... n#p2181882 and then had a small amount of the 2006 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=137123&p=2198033&hi ... r#p2198033 Seemed to me that the 2006 has a bright future.
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#71 Post by Warren Taranow » October 13th, 2019, 10:58 pm

I opened my first 2007 Taittinger Comtes tonight. It's another beautiful vintage for the Comtes, and a respectable successor to the phenomenal 2006. This is fresher and more precise than the '06, but less dense and viscous. Great flavor profile, with white pit fruit, lemon, honeysuckle. Taittinger nailed the 2006 vintage, and did a great job with the 2007, a vintage many houses didn't even declare.
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#72 Post by Howard Cooper » October 14th, 2019, 6:52 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
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Last year, I had a wonderful 1990 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=136256&p=2181882&hi ... n#p2181882 and then had a small amount of the 2006 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=137123&p=2198033&hi ... r#p2198033 Seemed to me that the 2006 has a bright future.
This year, in addition to drinking more 2006 (and buying 2004, more 2006 and 2007), I have had the 1996 Blanc de Blanc twice and the Rose once. Great, great wines.
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#73 Post by Blake Brown » October 14th, 2019, 7:33 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
October 13th, 2019, 10:58 pm
I opened my first 2007 Taittinger Comtes tonight. It's another beautiful vintage for the Comtes, and a respectable successor to the phenomenal 2006. This is fresher and more precise than the '06, but less dense and viscous. Great flavor profile, with white pit fruit, lemon, honeysuckle. Taittinger nailed the 2006 vintage, and did a great job with the 2007, a vintage many houses didn't even declare.
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#74 Post by J. Rock » October 14th, 2019, 8:48 am

I keep seeing everyone mention '04, '06, and '07, but no one seems to drink any '05. What's so bad with the '05? I've never had Comtes, but looking to try it and trying to decide which to buy.
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#75 Post by Blake Brown » October 14th, 2019, 8:52 am

J. Rock wrote:
October 14th, 2019, 8:48 am
I keep seeing everyone mention '04, '06, and '07, but no one seems to drink any '05. What's so bad with the '05? I've never had Comtes, but looking to try it and trying to decide which to buy.
I've posted a few notes on the 05` and can easily say it is very good and more on the elegant side of things with a less push and more pull than say the ones you reference. The 06` just outshines them all and does so on a consistent basis.
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#76 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 14th, 2019, 9:01 am

We opened a 06 the other day and it’s still drinking great!

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#77 Post by Warren Taranow » October 14th, 2019, 11:28 am

Blake Brown wrote:
October 14th, 2019, 8:52 am
The 06` just outshines them all and does so on a consistent basis.
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
October 14th, 2019, 9:01 am
We opened a 06 the other day and it’s still drinking great!
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