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#1 Post by Karl K »

Does the presence/absence of teeth affect perception/appreciation of wine?

Mouthfeel?

Calcium/mineral level in wine?

Kind of an off-hand topic, I know, just wondering what people will say.
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#2 Post by Blake Brown »

Some that qualify to answer that question may not want that revealed. My guess is no. The olfactory sense and the sensory receptors on our tongue and palate are still in place and actively providing feedback.
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Good point about qualified but not wanting to say.

Question prompted by my own sense of mortality evinced by tooth decay.
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Karl K wrote:Good point about qualified but not wanting to say.

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That`s why I stated "my guess".
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I am in a blind tasting wine club where the majority (7 members) are dentists/oral surgeons. They are also mostly 20 plus years my senior (65 or older).
This topic came up a few years ago when one the oldest members had already lost some of his teeth and were replaced. Some issues with taste had arose. If I recall the poligrip type products affect the taste buds if applied within hours of tasting. HE also said food was more likley to remain in the tooth area with dentures/false teeth than with real teeth and therefore he 1) had bad breath at times and 2) impacted his perceptions/tastings of wine.
Neither prevented him from tasting wines as he applied his dental products well in advance and avoided eating foods until the flights of wines were tasted. He than ate food while drinking wine (tasting and drinking are very different things in my life at least)

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David Cohen wrote:I am in a blind tasting wine club where the majority (7 members) are dentists/oral surgeons. They are also mostly 20 plus years my senior (65 or older).
This topic came up a few years ago when one the oldest members had already lost some of his teeth and were replaced. Some issues with taste had arose. If I recall the poligrip type products affect the taste buds if applied within hours of tasting. HE also said food was more likley to remain in the tooth area with dentures/false teeth than with real teeth and therefore he 1) had bad breath at times and 2) impacted his perceptions/tastings of wine.
Neither prevented him from tasting wines as he applied his dental products well in advance and avoided eating foods until the flights of wines were tasted. He than ate food while drinking wine (tasting and drinking are very different things in my life at least)
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#7 Post by Chris Blum »

I think taste occurs on a scatter diagram that's impacted by all sorts if factors; genetic, age, physiology, diet, social training, experience and yes, probably teeth.

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And hopefully your halitosis won't be the merde in my wine! neener
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I've heard that without teeth wines seem to have less bite :)

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Karl K wrote:Does the presence/absence of teeth affect perception/appreciation of wine?

Mouthfeel?

Calcium/mineral level in wine?

Kind of an off-hand topic, I know, just wondering what people will say.
You might want to go to West Virginia and ask people there. [stirthepothal.gif] The old joke, how do we know that the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia? Answer, if it had been invented anywhere else, it would be called the teethbrush.
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Howard Cooper wrote:
Karl K wrote:Does the presence/absence of teeth affect perception/appreciation of wine?

Mouthfeel?

Calcium/mineral level in wine?

Kind of an off-hand topic, I know, just wondering what people will say.
You might want to go to West Virginia and ask people there. [stirthepothal.gif] The old joke, how do we know that the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia? Answer, if it had been invented anywhere else, it would be called the teethbrush.
A good one Howard and a new one to me. Can`t wait to lay this on my WV friends. Actually, it could also apply to Arkansas where I know even more folks.
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With no teeth at all (not even falsies), surely perception of mouthfeel must be different?

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My wine tastes weird after I brush my teeth. I may stop.
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and some wine I have drunk has teeth
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Blake Brown wrote:
Howard Cooper wrote:
Karl K wrote:Does the presence/absence of teeth affect perception/appreciation of wine?

Mouthfeel?

Calcium/mineral level in wine?

Kind of an off-hand topic, I know, just wondering what people will say.
You might want to go to West Virginia and ask people there. [stirthepothal.gif] The old joke, how do we know that the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia? Answer, if it had been invented anywhere else, it would be called the teethbrush.
A good one Howard and a new one to me. Can`t wait to lay this on my WV friends. Actually, it could also apply to Arkansas where I know even more folks.
I have actually heard this using a bunch of states. The first time I heard this was WV, so I went with that.
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Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:My wine tastes weird after I brush my teeth. I may stop.
Apparently, Florida will soon be added to the states where the joke applies. [snort.gif]
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Blake Brown wrote:and some wine I have drunk has teeth
Some are quite chewy
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Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
Blake Brown wrote:and some wine I have drunk has teeth
Some are quite chewy
and some have been pretty gummy
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#20 Post by Ramon C »

So much for describing wines as having "crunchy red fruit".
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This thread begs the question "What does Pre-Chew Charlie's offer on their wine list?"

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#22 Post by Anton D »

With no teeth, how would people describe the feel of tannins?

It would be abominable.

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#23 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m »

If I remember to do so, I will ask my FIL when I see him in a couple weeks. A couple years ago, rather than getting some crowns or implants, he instead ripped all his teeth out and went for dentures. He deeply regrets that decision, and now advises anyone who will listen to him to do whatever they can to hang on to their original teeth.
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Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:If I remember to do so, I will ask my FIL when I see him in a couple weeks. A couple years ago, rather than getting some crowns or implants, he instead ripped all his teeth out and went for dentures. He deeply regrets that decision, and now advises anyone who will listen to him to do whatever they can to hang on to their original teeth.
A professional mentor of mine did the same thing and was so distraught afterwards, he passed away shortly afterwards in his early 70s. Yes, there were other health issues, but the emotional factor set them off.
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#25 Post by Ruth_Morrison »

I never thought about that! A highly tannic wine would probably feel much harder on your gums as there would be no teeth to make it less felt! But, of course, it depends on what kind of wine you drink. If you want to try some high tannic wine and have problems with your teeth, you should get some guides from a dentist before consuming it.

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#26 Post by Marcus Goodfellow »

Steve Slatcher wrote: October 3rd, 2017, 4:00 am With no teeth at all (not even falsies), surely perception of mouthfeel must be different?
Guessing, but given that wines taste quite differently from a Burgundy bowl than they do from a Riesling stem, I would think there would definitely be a difference.

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Ruth_Morrison wrote: May 4th, 2021, 2:47 pm I never thought about that! A highly tannic wine would probably feel much harder on your gums as there would be no teeth to make it less felt! But, of course, it depends on what kind of wine you drink. If you want to try some high tannic wine and have problems with your teeth, you should get some guides from a dentist before consuming it.
What made you search for this 3 year old thread about no teeth ?? And then resurrect it ? That could me more interesting than the thread itself !!!
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Bdklein wrote: May 4th, 2021, 3:49 pm
Ruth_Morrison wrote: May 4th, 2021, 2:47 pm I never thought about that! A highly tannic wine would probably feel much harder on your gums as there would be no teeth to make it less felt! But, of course, it depends on what kind of wine you drink. If you want to try some high tannic wine and have problems with your teeth, you should get some guides from a dentist before consuming it.
What made you search for this 3 year old thread about no teeth ?? And then resurrect it ? That could me more interesting than the thread itself !!!
While I would like to know that too, I missed it back then and it was a fun couple of minutes...
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Bdklein wrote: May 4th, 2021, 3:49 pm
Ruth_Morrison wrote: May 4th, 2021, 2:47 pm I never thought about that! A highly tannic wine would probably feel much harder on your gums as there would be no teeth to make it less felt! But, of course, it depends on what kind of wine you drink. If you want to try some high tannic wine and have problems with your teeth, you should get some guides from a dentist before consuming it.
What made you search for this 3 year old thread about no teeth ?? And then resurrect it ? That could me more interesting than the thread itself !!!
I was literally going to ask the same thing. Please do tell!! champagne.gif

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#30 Post by David Kubiak »

It’s actually an interesting question, since there are a lot of medical reasons someone with a wine hobby might lose teeth. Anybody who could afford implants would certainly avoid dentures, especially the upper arch, since it can’t be made without covering the hard palate, where there are a lot of tastebuds, to say nothing of the taste of the adhesive you have to use to keep it in place. But some people have issues with implants too. If you are sensitive to titanium they can make everything taste metallic, and I have read about problems with a constant salty taste in the mouth, something to do with an electrical reaction involving the metal. I imagine there are people whose palate could be affected just by fillings.

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#31 Post by Karl K »

I opened this thread to read it and was a little surprised to find I had been the one to start it.

Perhaps I should wonder about losing more than just teeth.
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