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#1 Post by Tim Heaton » August 6th, 2017, 9:38 am

  • 2013 Cavallotto Barolo Bricco Boschis - Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo (4/12/2017)
    Striking, precise, deeply perfumed and artfully poised. The structure seems to match the quality of the extremely pure fruits, which is to say, this measures up to some of the very best newly released Barolo wines. I had to taste it twice, the second time, no spitting. Only going to get better from here, could well end up in epic territory. Glorious, elegant length; bravo, Alfio! 2024 thru 2048+. HOLD. highly recommended+

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#2 Post by R Nanda » August 6th, 2017, 9:51 am

Thanks for the data point. Always a favorite.

If the normatle is this good, imagine how good the Riserva turns out to be?!
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#3 Post by Ken V » August 6th, 2017, 3:24 pm

Thanks for the note. How many points is "highly recommended+"?
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#4 Post by Tom Maskell » August 6th, 2017, 8:36 pm

Tim,

What does artfully poised mean in this context?

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#5 Post by Ian Sutton » August 7th, 2017, 1:03 am

Tom Maskell wrote:Tim,

What does artfully poised mean in this context?
It was stood up in front of a painting. [wink.gif]
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#6 Post by Howard Davis » August 7th, 2017, 1:29 am

Thanks for the note Tim. The Bricco Boschis lives in the shadows of the San Giuseppe but in a top vintage like 2013 (or 2010) it can be a great wine in its own right. I look forward to trying the 2013 version.

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#7 Post by F.Daner » August 2nd, 2020, 5:22 am

Just picked up some of this one along with the 16. Anyone back buying vintages as 16 hype goes into overdrive ?
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#8 Post by Kent Comley » August 3rd, 2020, 11:41 pm

Accidentally bought a couple of 6 packs of this as I forgot about the initial 6 pack, but your note vindicates my absent mindedness. Thanks.
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#9 Post by jbray23 » August 3rd, 2020, 11:51 pm

The ‘13 riservas are amazing although I prefer ‘12 a little more
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#10 Post by Michael_H » August 5th, 2020, 9:39 am

jbray23 wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 11:51 pm
The ‘13 riservas are amazing although I prefer ‘12 a little more
It's been almost a year since I had them when I visited Cavallotto last fall, but my impression is that the '12s are definitely more approachable right now. The '13s need years more in the bottle, but I think when they come around will really be fantastic to drink. I wouldn't recommend opening a '13 riserva anytime soon.
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#11 Post by jbray23 » August 5th, 2020, 11:29 pm

Michael_H wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 9:39 am
jbray23 wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 11:51 pm
The ‘13 riservas are amazing although I prefer ‘12 a little more
It's been almost a year since I had them when I visited Cavallotto last fall, but my impression is that the '12s are definitely more approachable right now. The '13s need years more in the bottle, but I think when they come around will really be fantastic to drink. I wouldn't recommend opening a '13 riserva anytime soon.
Caveat, I sell these wines and have had both several times.. yes, I recognize that ‘12 is a little more forward, I would actually argue that it’s more in balance than the ‘13... the ‘13 is showing a huge frame as to the ‘12 is more chiseled and refined..

I think overall the ‘13 vintage is way overrated and according to Alfio the ‘12 riservas are the best they have ever made....
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#12 Post by Ron Erickson » August 5th, 2020, 11:40 pm

The oldest is a 2001 and there is a few bottles of this waiting for him.

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#13 Post by Cristian Dezso » August 6th, 2020, 5:00 am

jbray23 wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 11:29 pm
Michael_H wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 9:39 am
jbray23 wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 11:51 pm
The ‘13 riservas are amazing although I prefer ‘12 a little more
It's been almost a year since I had them when I visited Cavallotto last fall, but my impression is that the '12s are definitely more approachable right now. The '13s need years more in the bottle, but I think when they come around will really be fantastic to drink. I wouldn't recommend opening a '13 riserva anytime soon.
Caveat, I sell these wines and have had both several times.. yes, I recognize that ‘12 is a little more forward, I would actually argue that it’s more in balance than the ‘13... the ‘13 is showing a huge frame as to the ‘12 is more chiseled and refined..

I think overall the ‘13 vintage is way overrated and according to Alfio the ‘12 riservas are the best they have ever made....
I have not tried the riservas, but I tried the 2013 Bricco Boschis after release and I agree with you - it was a huge, dense wine, with coarser tannins than I expected, and I decided to skip it. Have you tried the 16 Bricco Boschis? How does it compare to the 2013?

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#14 Post by Oliver McCrum » August 6th, 2020, 9:05 am

Michael_H wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 9:39 am


It's been almost a year since I had them when I visited Cavallotto last fall, but my impression is that the '12s are definitely more approachable right now. The '13s need years more in the bottle, but I think when they come around will really be fantastic to drink. I wouldn't recommend opening a '13 riserva anytime soon.
I agree.

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#15 Post by jbray23 » August 6th, 2020, 12:29 pm

Cristian Dezso wrote:
August 6th, 2020, 5:00 am
jbray23 wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 11:29 pm
Michael_H wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 9:39 am


It's been almost a year since I had them when I visited Cavallotto last fall, but my impression is that the '12s are definitely more approachable right now. The '13s need years more in the bottle, but I think when they come around will really be fantastic to drink. I wouldn't recommend opening a '13 riserva anytime soon.
Caveat, I sell these wines and have had both several times.. yes, I recognize that ‘12 is a little more forward, I would actually argue that it’s more in balance than the ‘13... the ‘13 is showing a huge frame as to the ‘12 is more chiseled and refined..

I think overall the ‘13 vintage is way overrated and according to Alfio the ‘12 riservas are the best they have ever made....
I have not tried the riservas, but I tried the 2013 Bricco Boschis after release and I agree with you - it was a huge, dense wine, with coarser tannins than I expected, and I decided to skip it. Have you tried the 16 Bricco Boschis? How does it compare to the 2013?
No, unfortunately I have not had the ‘16 yet but based on the house style and vintage it should be a home run.
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#16 Post by Oliver McCrum » August 6th, 2020, 3:43 pm

R Nanda wrote:
August 6th, 2017, 9:51 am
Thanks for the data point. Always a favorite.

If the normatle is this good, imagine how good the Riserva turns out to be?!
'Normale' usually means 'without vineyard designation', bear in mind that Bricco Boschis is a 'cru'.

On the other hand Cavallotto do make a Langhe Nebbiolo that conforms to the Barolo rules in most years.
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#17 Post by Michael_H » August 7th, 2020, 7:14 am

Oliver McCrum wrote:
August 6th, 2020, 3:43 pm
R Nanda wrote:
August 6th, 2017, 9:51 am
Thanks for the data point. Always a favorite.

If the normatle is this good, imagine how good the Riserva turns out to be?!
'Normale' usually means 'without vineyard designation', bear in mind that Bricco Boschis is a 'cru'.

On the other hand Cavallotto do make a Langhe Nebbiolo that conforms to the Barolo rules in most years.
+1 for the Langhe nebbiolo, although it is released earlier than what would be required for Barolo every year. I assume the point you are making is that this sees long skin contact (up to a month) and extended time in oak (15-18 mo for Langhe nebbiolo) which is not all that common for a Langhe nebbiolo. From my notes during my visit last year, their Barolo typically sees twice as much time in oak as that as well as slightly longer time with skins.

For my money, this is one of the best nebbiolo values that can be had.
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#18 Post by Oliver McCrum » August 7th, 2020, 9:07 am

Michael,

I was being a bit loose, you're right, it's released much earlier than the 'disciplinario' for Barolo requires. I was referring to the way it's vinified, with long maceration, and the aging in wood, which is above the new minimum of 18m in most vintages. Their Barolos and Riservas are aged for a lot longer in wood than the required minimums, as you say, as one can tell by looking at their excellent vintage-specific tech sheets on their website; 48-60m in wood for the 2015 Bricco Boschis, for example, never mind the Riservas.
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#19 Post by Michael_H » August 7th, 2020, 10:01 am

Oliver, it looks like you found a mistake on the Cavallotto website! It looks like it is only present in the Italian language version of their tech sheet for the 2015 bricco boschis where it says 48-60 mo in wood. The English version shows the correct 36-42 months that the wine actually received, as it was released in 2019 - less than 48 months after harvest - and always receives some time in the cellar post-bottling prior to release.

None of this is to try and start an argument - I'm know you have much more experience in this area than I do. I am just in the middle of trying to plan for a return this fall to the region (travel restrictions permitting) and going through my notes from my visits last fall so this is all quite fresh in my mind from then.

I think your overall points here are very clear though - across the board Cavallotto wines see longer macerations and much longer time in wood than required. Aside from the use of rotofermenters, quite traditional in production and wonderful wines across the board (at least in my opinon).
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#20 Post by Oliver McCrum » August 7th, 2020, 3:59 pm

Of course you're right, Michael, I just quoted without thinking.
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