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Re: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days

#1151 Post by YLee » January 11th, 2019, 12:35 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 10:25 am
10 cases showed up today, oops
I called them up yesterday and told them not to ship mine due to fluctuating weather. When they do ship one day I'm afraid what will be waiting for me at my door. [oops.gif]
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#1152 Post by C Chen » January 11th, 2019, 12:40 pm

YLee wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 12:35 pm
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 10:25 am
10 cases showed up today, oops
I called them up yesterday and told them not to ship mine due to fluctuating weather. When they do ship one day I'm afraid what will be waiting for me at my door. [oops.gif]
Pretty cool weather here, got some shipments in the upcoming weeks from various SoCal spots.
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#1153 Post by ky1em!ttskus » January 11th, 2019, 2:23 pm

It's freezing in the Envoyer storage area.

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#1154 Post by Frank Murray III » January 11th, 2019, 3:01 pm

Indeed it is cool back there. I would have no concerns about their storage.
My best wines of 2018:
2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or
2015 Kutch Sonoma Coast PN
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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#1155 Post by C Chen » January 11th, 2019, 3:13 pm

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January 11th, 2019, 3:01 pm
Indeed it is cool back there. I would have no concerns about their storage.
I work right down the street, so I just stopped by and grabbed a Mousse Effusion Rose. Thanks for getting me into it-- it's a kickass Champagne at only $35. Told Greg how much I loved it from the last time we drank together. Surprisingly, he hasn't tried it yet, but he'll pop one this weekend.

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#1156 Post by Frank Murray III » January 11th, 2019, 3:23 pm

C Chen wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 3:13 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 3:01 pm
Indeed it is cool back there. I would have no concerns about their storage.
I work right down the street, so I just stopped by and grabbed a Mousse Effusion Rose. Thanks for getting me into it-- it's a kickass Champagne at only $35. Told Greg how much I loved it from the last time we drank together. Surprisingly, he hasn't tried it yet, but he'll pop one this weekend.

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We need to get you back into an event with us. Been too long.

Mousse's stuff is really fun to drink. Did you drink the Extra L'or yet? Do it.
My best wines of 2018:
2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or
2015 Kutch Sonoma Coast PN
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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#1157 Post by YLee » January 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm

Frank and Curtis convinced me to pick up the last 2 bottles at Envoyer. Damn it. I need to workout even more now.
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#1158 Post by Frank Murray III » January 11th, 2019, 4:37 pm

Well, if you are buying terrific grower bubbly for 40 bucks, i can live with that. Good work. [worship.gif]
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2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or
2015 Kutch Sonoma Coast PN
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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#1159 Post by DanielP » January 11th, 2019, 4:45 pm

What's the word on the Mousse Effusion Rose? I ordered an in stock bottle a few days ago primarily for the combination of price and intriguing grower.
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#1160 Post by Frank Murray III » January 11th, 2019, 4:58 pm

  • NV Moussé Fils Champagne Brut Rose Effusion - France, Champagne (7/7/2018)
    Disgorged 06/2016. 6 g/l with about 90% PM and 10% PN. Opened last night and kept a small amount under stopper for today. Pinkish with a touch of red, beautiful color. Lively acidity, leaning towards black cherry fruit. This is very zesty, with a bitter finishing note that gives the wine a lively energy. The finish takes on a grapefruit pith quality, that citrusy bitterness that I enjoy. This will wake up the palate and make it pay attention.
  • NV Moussé Fils Champagne Brut Rose Effusion - France, Champagne (5/16/2018)
    This was our last wine to taste of the Mousse range. This is the blend of both soleras that they maintain, with a total composition of 92% PM and 8% PN. 6 g/l dosage and I forgot to jot down the disgorge date. Fresh, lively, red berry, creamy and bright in tone. If I can find this locally in time via my shop, I will buy it. Enjoyed this as a solid Rose.
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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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#1161 Post by DanielP » January 11th, 2019, 5:07 pm

Thanks Frank. I actually think I might've read your notes. Appreciate them as usual. Rule #1, If Envoyer offers it, Frank's tried it!
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#1162 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » January 15th, 2019, 4:11 am

Saw my first European offering of regular 08 dom; 155E, so not really that much cheaper.

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#1163 Post by Frank Murray III » January 15th, 2019, 4:31 pm

DanielPaik wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 5:07 pm
Thanks Frank. I actually think I might've read your notes. Appreciate them as usual. Rule #1, If Envoyer offers it, Frank's tried it!
Thanks, Daniel. I share them because some people want the perspective and they add it to their portfolio of feedback. Glad it helps. I am just one dude, with one palate and I know what I like and usually drink what that is. As an aside, I don't buy everything that Greg offers, skipping the grand marques and settling with the small, organic/bio, low dose producers. It's my space, it ain't everyone's.
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2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or
2015 Kutch Sonoma Coast PN
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
2010 Tercero Verbiage (Rouge) Santa Barbara County

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#1164 Post by Frank Murray III » January 17th, 2019, 8:09 am

Re-offer of the Mousse Saignee Rose Special Club today. This is excellent, clean, precise champagne that is 100% PM. if you have funds for champagne right now, this stuff is terrific. I re-upped for more today.
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2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or
2015 Kutch Sonoma Coast PN
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet Père et Fils Champagne La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay
2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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Re: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days

#1165 Post by YLee » January 18th, 2019, 4:06 am

Frank Murray III wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 8:09 am
Re-offer of the Mousse Saignee Rose Special Club today. This is excellent, clean, precise champagne that is 100% PM. if you have funds for champagne right now, this stuff is terrific. I re-upped for more today.
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Got'em. Is this a drink now or age it wine?
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Re: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days

#1166 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » January 18th, 2019, 7:48 am

Another 2008 dom offer at 189; maybe I should’ve bought more from fwgs on bf. I have put away a lot though.

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#1167 Post by Eric Sch » January 18th, 2019, 7:51 am

Agreed with FMIII, the Mousse SC Rosé is great stuff, all Meunier. The 13 was one of my Champagnes of the year 2018. Tried the 14 a couple weeks ago and it's also tasty but young, I'm giving it a bit of time to relax.

I also grabbed a couple more yesterday, best pricing I've seen.
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#1168 Post by YLee » January 18th, 2019, 8:14 am

Eric Sch wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 7:51 am
Agreed with FMIII, the Mousse SC Rosé is great stuff, all Meunier. The 13 was one of my Champagnes of the year 2018. Tried the 14 a couple weeks ago and it's also tasty but young, I'm giving it a bit of time to relax.

I also grabbed a couple more yesterday, best pricing I've seen.
I've never had it, how much time do you recommend?
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#1169 Post by Frank Murray III » January 18th, 2019, 1:18 pm

Yong, to me, nothing wrong with drinking and enjoying this now. I love structure, acid and energy and conversely don't care for aged characteristics of wine, regardless of type. In sum, drink one and see what you think. I plan to open another soon, as I bought some more.
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2012 Savart Expression Nature Ecueil
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#1170 Post by julianseersmartin » January 18th, 2019, 1:31 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 7:48 am
Another 2008 dom offer at 189; maybe I should’ve bought more from fwgs on bf. I have put away a lot though.
Yep, I think we might be looking at the new norm and 08 will settle at about 160-70 at the very best price. DP is long overdue a bump.

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#1171 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » January 18th, 2019, 2:02 pm

julianseersmartin wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 1:31 pm
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 7:48 am
Another 2008 dom offer at 189; maybe I should’ve bought more from fwgs on bf. I have put away a lot though.
Yep, I think we might be looking at the new norm and 08 will settle at about 160-70 at the very best price. DP is long overdue a bump.
yeah 147 was a great price for it. Glad I grabbed a couple cases.

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#1172 Post by Jim Stewart » January 18th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 2:02 pm
julianseersmartin wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 1:31 pm
Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 7:48 am
Another 2008 dom offer at 189; maybe I should’ve bought more from fwgs on bf. I have put away a lot though.
Yep, I think we might be looking at the new norm and 08 will settle at about 160-70 at the very best price. DP is long overdue a bump.
yeah 147 was a great price for it. Glad I grabbed a couple cases.
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Michael, excuse me for being gauche; it no longer embarrasses me and I hope my question doesn't embarrass you. Are you making purchases like these for personal use? I find the disparity between your ballpark and mine absolutely stunning at times. I know you are very generous in also sharing your knowledge of wine at all price levels and I thank you for doing that. Just some of your purchases are a bit jaw-dropping "pour moi".
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#1173 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » January 18th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Yes it is. I drink a lot of champagne and in the best vintages you'll be well served putting away Dom/Cristal etc as they'll drink well for decades. Two cases of dom at $150 is $3600, which is certainly not cheap, but will offer nice drinking for decades. If you review some of these wine dinner posts, there's not infrequently people drinking 10-20 bottles of wine, many of which are worth more for one bottle than that total on today's open market, whether or not that's what they paid for them when they bought them. There is a big range of spending here which is what it is. I like getting information from people drinking bottles costing thousands and bottles costing $10-30.

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#1174 Post by Jim Stewart » January 18th, 2019, 3:52 pm

Michael, thank you for your straightforward gracious nature. I just toasted you with my last sip of tonight's glass of wine! -Jim
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#1175 Post by Eric Sch » January 18th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
January 18th, 2019, 1:18 pm
Yong, to me, nothing wrong with drinking and enjoying this now. I love structure, acid and energy and conversely don't care for aged characteristics of wine, regardless of type. In sum, drink one and see what you think. I plan to open another soon, as I bought some more.
We like our rose with a bit of age so I intentionally put a bunch aside. Young rose is acid driven, light and racy and pretty. Age adds depth and complexity, and my wife and I love a touch of oxidation in our bubbly rose, but everyone is different in their likes.

We intentionally buy so we can try at various stages. I have 4 bottles of the 14 Mousse and will probably drink 1 this year and spread the rest over the next 10 years depending on evolution.
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#1176 Post by John Webber » January 19th, 2019, 8:05 am

Frank Murray III wrote:
January 17th, 2019, 8:09 am
Re-offer of the Mousse Saignee Rose Special Club today. This is excellent, clean, precise champagne that is 100% PM. if you have funds for champagne right now, this stuff is terrific. I re-upped for more today.
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That sold out same day. In the mood to buy bubbles, so I went elsewhere for a mixed 10 pack of Savart. I have never had his wines, but i'm looking forward to them as they sound like my style.

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