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#1001 Post by Bob Hoelting » October 18th, 2018, 8:02 pm

C Chen wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 10:31 am
Anyone biting on that $39.99 Bollinger Special Cuvee?
I didn't get that offer, but I was happy to pick up two of the 2014 Marie Courtin Concordance Extra Brut this week.

I also needed to post in this thread so I can see these replies ;)

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#1002 Post by Russ Williams » October 20th, 2018, 11:20 am

Just ordered some of the 2014 Hebrart Special Club. Big fan of this producer.
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#1003 Post by C Chen » October 20th, 2018, 11:40 am

Russ Williams wrote:
October 20th, 2018, 11:20 am
Just ordered some of the 2014 Hebrart Special Club. Big fan of this producer.
Same!
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#1004 Post by Frank Murray III » October 21st, 2018, 11:59 am

I am done with Special Club purchases until I can figure out a permanent way of making these bottles work in my cellar. Although, I have gone long on Marie-Courtin, which are as terrible as the SC bottles but I just love the MC wines so they are getting my limited 'Scraper space for the PITA shape.
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#1005 Post by Gary Zimberg » October 21st, 2018, 12:48 pm

Bob Hoelting wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 8:02 pm
C Chen wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 10:31 am
Anyone biting on that $39.99 Bollinger Special Cuvee?
I didn't get that offer, but I was happy to pick up two of the 2014 Marie Courtin Concordance Extra Brut this week.

I also needed to post in this thread so I can see these replies ;)
Mine were delivered yesterday, Are these ready to show? or will they need a few years of cellar time.... interested in trying one

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#1006 Post by Bob Hoelting » October 21st, 2018, 1:42 pm

Gary Zimberg wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 12:48 pm
Bob Hoelting wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 8:02 pm
C Chen wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 10:31 am
Anyone biting on that $39.99 Bollinger Special Cuvee?
I didn't get that offer, but I was happy to pick up two of the 2014 Marie Courtin Concordance Extra Brut this week.

I also needed to post in this thread so I can see these replies ;)
Mine were delivered yesterday, Are these ready to show? or will they need a few years of cellar time.... interested in trying one
Are you talking about the Bollinger or the Marie Courtin? I'll be waiting a couple years before I pop one of the MC

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#1007 Post by Gary Zimberg » October 21st, 2018, 5:15 pm

Bob Hoelting wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 1:42 pm
Gary Zimberg wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 12:48 pm
Bob Hoelting wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 8:02 pm


I didn't get that offer, but I was happy to pick up two of the 2014 Marie Courtin Concordance Extra Brut this week.

I also needed to post in this thread so I can see these replies ;)
Mine were delivered yesterday, Are these ready to show? or will they need a few years of cellar time.... interested in trying one
Are you talking about the Bollinger or the Marie Courtin? I'll be waiting a couple years before I pop one of the MC
The MC... Guess I'll be waiting too....
I did have one of these the other night... really enjoyed it ...

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#1008 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 22nd, 2018, 10:44 am

Vilmart rosé.

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#1009 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 22nd, 2018, 11:04 am

So tempted. But I already have bunch. Great price
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#1010 Post by Greg K » October 22nd, 2018, 11:15 am

I'd probably be in if I got the offer :D
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#1011 Post by Blake Brown » October 22nd, 2018, 2:04 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 22nd, 2018, 11:04 am
So tempted. But I already have bunch. Great price
+1 Having just poured {and repeatedly tasting} this plus 4 other Vilmart gems at a recent trade tasting, I almost opted to get more. Its one of my NV rose favs.
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#1012 Post by Russ Williams » October 22nd, 2018, 4:15 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 22nd, 2018, 11:04 am
So tempted. But I already have bunch. Great price
Same here and it’s not like Greg doesn’t offer this on a regular basis. Thanks Greg!! champagne.gif
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#1013 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 23rd, 2018, 10:46 am

In for three of the ‘10 CdC; anniversary vintage for us.

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#1014 Post by RyanC » October 23rd, 2018, 10:49 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 10:46 am
In for three of the ‘10 CdC; anniversary vintage for us.
I also put in for 3 of these. One of my favorite Champagnes every vintage.
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#1015 Post by Frank Murray III » October 23rd, 2018, 11:34 am

Same here. Just emailed for 3. Have we got to the point with Vilmart when being 75 mins after the offer is too late? Gulp.
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#1016 Post by amjohnstone » October 23rd, 2018, 11:54 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 10:46 am
In for three of the ‘10 CdC; anniversary vintage for us.
Can I ask the price on the CdC? I didn't get that particular email, and I love that wine.
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#1017 Post by RyanC » October 23rd, 2018, 11:57 am

amjohnstone wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 11:54 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 10:46 am
In for three of the ‘10 CdC; anniversary vintage for us.
Can I ask the price on the CdC? I didn't get that particular email, and I love that wine.
$119.99
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#1018 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 23rd, 2018, 12:22 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 11:34 am
Same here. Just emailed for 3. Have we got to the point with Vilmart when being 75 mins after the offer is too late? Gulp.
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#1019 Post by Frank Murray III » October 23rd, 2018, 12:23 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 12:22 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 11:34 am
Same here. Just emailed for 3. Have we got to the point with Vilmart when being 75 mins after the offer is too late? Gulp.
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#1020 Post by Russ Williams » October 23rd, 2018, 3:10 pm

I also asked for 3 an hour after the email arrived. Fingers crossed.
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#1021 Post by Eric Sch » October 23rd, 2018, 11:56 pm

I buy more Rubis every time its offered. I have plenty stashed to try and get some age on it but it's very good value so I continue to add more, 3-4 at a time. I also put in for a couple CdC.
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#1022 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 24th, 2018, 4:45 am

I asked for some cdc as well. Gonna try to do a vit of a vertical tasting. Btw wally’s has/had the 08 and 09 for a decent price with this tent sale.

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#1023 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 24th, 2018, 8:13 am

And now a crazy-good price for the Grand Reserve.

I’m in. pileon

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#1024 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 24th, 2018, 8:21 am

ETA is July?
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#1025 Post by BenW » October 24th, 2018, 8:23 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
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ETA is July?
"Late July"
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#1026 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 24th, 2018, 8:26 am

weird. concerning
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#1027 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 24th, 2018, 8:28 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:26 am
weird. concerning
Yeah, not super stoked about that lead-time. But, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that late-July will be the soonest these will be available again so I jumped.

Why do you say "concerning"?

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#1028 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 24th, 2018, 8:32 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:28 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:26 am
weird. concerning
Yeah, not super stoked about that lead-time. But, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that late-July will be the soonest these will be available again so I jumped.

Why do you say "concerning"?
"Concerning" may be too strong, but I'm trying to figure out the chain of circumstances that would lead to that kind of lead time. This is their bread and butter wine; are they really sold out now? Won't have any until summer? Weird
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#1029 Post by Russ Williams » October 24th, 2018, 3:46 pm

Doing the happy dance!! Just received confirmation on my Vilmart CdC and ‘14 Hebrart Special Club. Lordy, Lordy how I love great bubbly. Thank you Greg!!
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#1030 Post by Yao C » October 25th, 2018, 2:57 pm

Sprang for a couple of the '08 Clos des Goisses
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#1031 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 25th, 2018, 3:04 pm

Too rich for my blood. I am sure it is fantastic
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#1032 Post by Howard Cooper » October 25th, 2018, 3:17 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:32 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:28 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:26 am
weird. concerning
Yeah, not super stoked about that lead-time. But, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that late-July will be the soonest these will be available again so I jumped.

Why do you say "concerning"?
"Concerning" may be too strong, but I'm trying to figure out the chain of circumstances that would lead to that kind of lead time. This is their bread and butter wine; are they really sold out now? Won't have any until summer? Weird
Could that be when this batch is disgorged and released?
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#1033 Post by Russ Williams » October 25th, 2018, 4:23 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 3:04 pm
Too rich for my blood. I am sure it is fantastic
Way too rich!!
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#1034 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 25th, 2018, 4:29 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 3:17 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 8:32 am
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October 24th, 2018, 8:28 am


Yeah, not super stoked about that lead-time. But, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that late-July will be the soonest these will be available again so I jumped.

Why do you say "concerning"?
"Concerning" may be too strong, but I'm trying to figure out the chain of circumstances that would lead to that kind of lead time. This is their bread and butter wine; are they really sold out now? Won't have any until summer? Weird
Could that be when this batch is disgorged and released?
I suppose Howard. But as I recall, the ad didn't say so, and it is hard to believe that the current release is sold out. And if the wine won't be released until next summer, why offer it now?

Anyway, it just seemed very odd to me.
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#1035 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 26th, 2018, 4:02 pm

About 3 cases of champs just got here from envoyer along with a lot of other stuff.

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#1036 Post by chetkern » October 27th, 2018, 8:44 am

Also just recently received 3 cases of assorted Champagne and a bottle of Olive Oil.

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#1037 Post by AndyK » October 31st, 2018, 2:31 pm

Any thoughts on the 2012 Aubry offered today?
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#1038 Post by ky1em!ttskus » October 31st, 2018, 3:06 pm

AndyK wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 2:31 pm
Any thoughts on the 2012 Aubry offered today?
I want it, but I'm on the same restriction as Mr. Mollen, unfortunately. Paid the CC bill today. pileon

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#1039 Post by julianseersmartin » October 31st, 2018, 3:22 pm

AndyK wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 2:31 pm
Any thoughts on the 2012 Aubry offered today?
Cellar door is a bit under $30 all in, so I don't think this is a screaming deal. Fantastic vintage mind you, so I'm sure it'll be lovely. A pass for me though.

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#1040 Post by C Chen » October 31st, 2018, 4:12 pm

chetkern wrote:
October 27th, 2018, 8:44 am
Also just recently received 3 cases of assorted Champagne and a bottle of Olive Oil.
Baller with the olive oil.
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#1041 Post by T. Altmayer » November 8th, 2018, 12:47 pm

Bit on on the 07 Ruinart Blanc des Blancs. I don't think Ruinart gets enough attention but both the NV and Vintage Blanc de Blancs are outstanding wines.
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#1042 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » November 8th, 2018, 1:41 pm

Very temptempted by the Dom Ruinart, but deleted the email in a moment of willpower. If offered again I'm likely to cave.
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#1043 Post by Neal.Mollen » November 8th, 2018, 1:43 pm

Love love love Ruinart and this one sounds especially delicious but TOO MUCH WINE, and I still have way too much of the 2002. Deleted
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#1044 Post by Josh Grossman » November 8th, 2018, 1:55 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
November 8th, 2018, 1:43 pm
Love love love Ruinart and this one sounds especially delicious but TOO MUCH WINE, and I still have way too much of the 2002. Deleted
$10 cheaper on wine searcher too. Think I'll wait for the big 2008 on this though. I did grab some Shaman though.

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#1045 Post by Greg K » November 8th, 2018, 2:12 pm

Ruinart is my upscale "everyone likes this" champagne, even as I wish they'd use less dosage. I love its precision, I dislike the sweetness.
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#1046 Post by Josh Grossman » November 8th, 2018, 3:15 pm

Greg K wrote:
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Ruinart is my upscale "everyone likes this" champagne, even as I wish they'd use less dosage. I love its precision, I dislike the sweetness.
Said this was the first year with a new vintner and the dosage was cut in half.

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#1047 Post by DanielPaik » November 15th, 2018, 8:30 am

I have an email from January 1st with a subject line that includes "...last chance at this price! 2006 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne" [snort.gif]

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#1048 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 15th, 2018, 8:53 am

I’ve stopped buying it just bc of storage, still have a case or so and it’s hard to find space for them. I’m just sticking a few of them in lay flat boxes with other wine in the cellar bc they won’t fit racks well.

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#1049 Post by Elliot Steele » November 17th, 2018, 8:09 am

Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires is such a great price. Had to break my already short lived moratorium for it. If it's anything like '95 with some cellar time I'll be a very happy camper.

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#1050 Post by Brad Baker » November 17th, 2018, 12:41 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
November 8th, 2018, 3:15 pm
Greg K wrote:
November 8th, 2018, 2:12 pm
Ruinart is my upscale "everyone likes this" champagne, even as I wish they'd use less dosage. I love its precision, I dislike the sweetness.
Said this was the first year with a new vintner and the dosage was cut in half.
This was the first wine made completely by the current Chef de Caves Frédéric Panaïotis, but he has been in charge of disgorgement and releasing the wines since the 1998 Dom Ruinart vintage. Also, the 2007 Dom Ruinart BdB actually has a slightly higher dosage at 5 g/L than the 2006 Dom Ruinart BdB which was approximately 4.5 g/L. The Dom Ruinart BdB dosage data (on original releases) since 1985 is:

- 1985: 9 g/L
- 1986: 7 g/L
- 1988: 9 g/L
- 1990: 10-11 g/L
- 1993: 10 g/L
- 1996: 7 g/L
- 1998: 7 g/L
- 2002: 6-6.5 g/L
- 2004: 6-6.5 g/L
- 2006: 4.5 g/L
- 2007: 5 g/L

The dosage has fallen over time, but this isn't a recent trend and not something worth discussing with the 2007... especially since it is higher than the previous vintage.
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