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Re: Envoyer is crushing it with Champagne these days

#1701 Post by Al Osterheld » February 21st, 2020, 9:14 am

Hebrart is a good producer, not sure I've had that specific bottling, though.

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#1702 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » February 21st, 2020, 9:21 am

I just picked some up based on the great reviews from folks on WB.

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#1703 Post by Troy Stark » February 21st, 2020, 12:11 pm

From the 2019 Terry Theise Champagne Catalog (which I thankfully had saved on my phone since it's no longer available on the Skurnik site);

Marc Hebrart may not be the "best" grower in Champagne, but no one is better.

and about the BdB specifically;

The very best "NV Blanc de Blanc" in this portfolio, challenged only by the best editions of Peters. It's 60% 2015 (and is entirely without grassiness), 25% '14 and 15% '13 - it's 12% from Oiry/Chouilly (Grand Cru) with the balanced from Mareuil [sur Ay] (ought to be Grand Cru!), deg. 9/2018

We purchased some on last offer and it is fantastic.
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#1704 Post by Neal.Mollen » February 21st, 2020, 12:25 pm

It's a very good deal on a highly recommended wine.
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#1705 Post by Barry L i p t o n » February 21st, 2020, 2:00 pm

Any comments on the NV Diebolt Vallois BdB brut. I’m always intrigued by 375s but want things better than daily drinkers.

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#1706 Post by C Chen » February 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 2:00 pm
Any comments on the NV Diebolt Vallois BdB brut. I’m always intrigued by 375s but want things better than daily drinkers.
To me, it's the epitome of a daily drinker. Doesn't strike above its price point, IMO. Others may disagree.
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#1707 Post by Barry L i p t o n » February 21st, 2020, 5:13 pm

Al Osterheld wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 9:14 am
Hebrart is a good producer, not sure I've had that specific bottling, though.

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Sold out, I was too slow.

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#1708 Post by Barry L i p t o n » February 21st, 2020, 5:13 pm

C Chen wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm
Barry L i p t o n wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 2:00 pm
Any comments on the NV Diebolt Vallois BdB brut. I’m always intrigued by 375s but want things better than daily drinkers.
To me, it's the epitome of a daily drinker. Doesn't strike above its price point, IMO. Others may disagree.
Thanks!

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#1709 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » February 21st, 2020, 5:53 pm

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What do people think of today’s Hebrart BdB 1er NV? $35 is a great price, but I’ve never had this wine.
I asked for 6. Screaming good QPR.
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#1710 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » February 21st, 2020, 5:54 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 5:13 pm
Al Osterheld wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 9:14 am
Hebrart is a good producer, not sure I've had that specific bottling, though.

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Sold out, I was too slow.
Daaaaaamn! Hope I wasn't too slow, too ... {off to check inbox for disappointing email} ...
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#1711 Post by Brent S » February 21st, 2020, 6:55 pm

Bought 2. Sold out quickly. Clearly it’s well liked
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#1712 Post by Craig G » February 21st, 2020, 7:19 pm

R. Frankel wrote:
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$35 is a great price, but I’ve never had this wine.
I can’t believe you said that :-)
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#1713 Post by Bill James » February 21st, 2020, 8:11 pm

Ok. For better or worse, just bought 6 x 375's of the NV Diebolt Vallois BdB brut from Envoyer. Very much looking forward to tasting them.

I've been dipping my toes (ok, not the best visual, but all I have at this moment) more and more in the champagne area, and figure this is another great way to explore.

Thanks to all.

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#1714 Post by Gus Siokis » February 22nd, 2020, 6:35 pm

I think they re-upped the Hebrart....showing over 100 available.
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#1715 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 23rd, 2020, 2:51 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 2:00 pm
Any comments on the NV Diebolt Vallois BdB brut. I’m always intrigued by 375s but want things better than daily drinkers.
I think it’s fantastic, one of the better growers in the cdb. Whether it’s a daily drinker really depends on your taste/cellar.

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#1716 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » February 27th, 2020, 12:08 pm

Anyone know anything about the 2008 Rigot-Caillez Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut that was just offered? It sounds interesting, and I might take a flier on a couple...
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#1717 Post by Chris Blum » February 27th, 2020, 1:13 pm

I grabbed 3. At that price point I figured it was worth a fling.
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#1718 Post by Troy Stark » February 27th, 2020, 4:37 pm

I'm considering doing the same.
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#1719 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 27th, 2020, 4:47 pm

Got one of the lenoble mags, very nice

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#1720 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 27th, 2020, 6:38 pm

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:
February 27th, 2020, 12:08 pm
Anyone know anything about the 2008 Rigot-Caillez Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut that was just offered? It sounds interesting, and I might take a flier on a couple...
2008 Champagne that spent 10 years on it's lees and was raised at least partially in oak for $30? Wheelhouse met.
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#1721 Post by Brent S » February 27th, 2020, 8:42 pm

Didn’t get that email and not on the website. Must be some secret offer
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#1722 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 27th, 2020, 8:59 pm

Brent S wrote:
February 27th, 2020, 8:42 pm
Didn’t get that email and not on the website. Must be some secret offer
Very secret. Can you tell them we didn't tell you?
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#1723 Post by Dennis Atick » February 29th, 2020, 4:29 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
February 14th, 2020, 8:41 am
Another rose PSA...

NV Marc Hebrart Rosé Champagne Premier Cru Brut
$39.99 on the website

Popped one last night. Lovely! Marc Hebrart is moving to the top of my ~$40 Champagne list. Excellent stuff.
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#1724 Post by J.Vizuete » March 9th, 2020, 3:30 pm

Pretty cool to see prevost offered. I replied to the message and happened to log in to see that it was "sold out" on the website. Fingers crossed
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#1725 Post by Josh Grossman » March 26th, 2020, 11:26 am

Asked for some of the 2008 Cuvée Robert Fleury Extra Brut

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#1726 Post by Michael Klein » March 26th, 2020, 12:36 pm

josh i am def interested - have you had this cuvee before and can you comment?

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#1727 Post by Josh Grossman » March 26th, 2020, 12:42 pm

Michael Klein wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 12:36 pm
josh i am def interested - have you had this cuvee before and can you comment?
I haven't. Mostly going from Cellartracker notes (the producer not this vintage), 11 years on the lees, low dosage, and 2008.

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#1728 Post by Michael Klein » March 26th, 2020, 1:51 pm

i had an 02 fleury this past week - and enjoyed it quite a lot. considering the up in quality and vintage, this seems worth a try.

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#1729 Post by Warren Taranow » March 31st, 2020, 5:09 pm

I haven't done much buying lately, but bit on a couple of the 2002 Drappier Réserve de l'Oenothèque. I think it's like the Carte d'Or with 20 years on the lees.

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#1730 Post by Howard Cooper » March 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm

Got my spring shipment from Envoyer last week. It included a bunch of Champage:

Philipponnat Cuvee 1522 Rose 2008
Charles Heidsieck 2008
Taittinger CdC 2994 and 2005
Delamotte 2012
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#1731 Post by alan weinberg » March 31st, 2020, 8:29 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm
Got my spring shipment from Envoyer last week.
Taittinger CdC 2994
might be fake!

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#1732 Post by Jeff P » March 31st, 2020, 8:31 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 8:29 pm
Howard Cooper wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm
Got my spring shipment from Envoyer last week.
Taittinger CdC 2994
might be fake!
Nope just an en primeur slip for ~1000 years from now. Heard it is a great year! Esp for Chardonnay.
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#1733 Post by Howard Cooper » March 31st, 2020, 8:37 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 8:29 pm
Howard Cooper wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm
Got my spring shipment from Envoyer last week.
Taittinger CdC 2994
might be fake!
Probably they put 2004 in the bottles
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#1734 Post by Cris Whetstone » March 31st, 2020, 10:15 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 5:09 pm
I haven't done much buying lately, but bit on a couple of the 2002 Drappier Réserve de l'Oenothèque. I think it's like the Carte d'Or with 20 years on the lees.

Cheers,
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This one made me chuckle. It's quite interesting that a Champagne from 2002 could have spent 20 years on it's lees. I'm guessing 15-16 tops. [wink.gif]
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#1735 Post by Warren Taranow » April 1st, 2020, 7:05 am

Cris Whetstone wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 10:15 pm
Warren Taranow wrote:
March 31st, 2020, 5:09 pm
I haven't done much buying lately, but bit on a couple of the 2002 Drappier Réserve de l'Oenothèque. I think it's like the Carte d'Or with 20 years on the lees.

Cheers,
Warren
This one made me chuckle. It's quite interesting that a Champagne from 2002 could have spent 20 years on it's lees. I'm guessing 15-16 tops. [wink.gif]
Oops. These are distracted times. Maybe I was thinking ahead to the 2025, or maybe the 2994 release.

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#1736 Post by Warren Taranow » April 1st, 2020, 8:06 am

Dethune Rosé is back; $10 more than it used to be, but still a great wine at $49.99. I'm not sure of the base year.
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#1737 Post by Warren Taranow » April 1st, 2020, 4:27 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
April 1st, 2020, 8:06 am
Dethune Rosé is back; $10 more than it used to be, but still a great wine at $49.99. I'm not sure of the base year.
The first email had the wrong price. It's an even better deal at $44.99. This is one champagne I buy every time it's offered.

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#1738 Post by CJ Beazley » April 3rd, 2020, 11:40 am

Cris Whetstone wrote:
February 27th, 2020, 6:38 pm
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:
February 27th, 2020, 12:08 pm
Anyone know anything about the 2008 Rigot-Caillez Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut that was just offered? It sounds interesting, and I might take a flier on a couple...
2008 Champagne that spent 10 years on it's lees and was raised at least partially in oak for $30? Wheelhouse met.
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#1739 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » April 3rd, 2020, 6:01 pm

And, once again, I'm very tempted ...
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#1740 Post by Todd F r e n c h » April 17th, 2020, 8:05 am

Today's offering is crazy tempting!!!! 2015 Jose Dhondt Mes Vieilles Vignes BdB mags for $89.99
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#1741 Post by M a x S w o m l e y » April 17th, 2020, 8:47 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 8:05 am
Today's offering is crazy tempting!!!! 2015 Jose Dhondt Mes Vieilles Vignes BdB mags for $89.99
Where do you see their daily offers? Am I missing emails?

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#1742 Post by Warren Taranow » April 17th, 2020, 9:26 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 8:05 am
Today's offering is crazy tempting!!!! 2015 Jose Dhondt Mes Vieilles Vignes BdB mags for $89.99
I’d normally be all over that, but I haven’t cracked any of my three ‘14s yet, and the ability to share a magnum with friends might be some time coming.

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#1743 Post by Blair Ridley » April 17th, 2020, 9:49 am

I had to bite --- Dhondt is my favorite grower champagne. Like you Warren, I loaded up on magnums of 2014s (I have 4) and haven't cracked them yet. The good thing about these magnums is that they do keep for a few days (if needed) using those stoppers, so my wife and I can easily polish one off in 2-3 days with little deterioration of quality.

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#1744 Post by Warren Taranow » April 23rd, 2020, 9:24 am

Great prices on the '15 Marguet pre-arrivals.
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#1745 Post by Subu Ramachandran » April 23rd, 2020, 9:33 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
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Great prices on the '15 Marguet pre-arrivals.
Indeed!

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#1746 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » May 12th, 2020, 6:59 pm

Fixed my previous mistake of ordering only 4 of the NV Jose Michel Rose Brut halves by topping-up with 8 more yesterday. *Fantastic* QPR on those @ $17, and might unseat Goutorbe as my "house Rose." ... also looking forward to finding-out if Hebrart's NV Rose has something to say about that ...
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#1747 Post by Robert M yers » May 12th, 2020, 9:12 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 9:24 am
Great prices on the '15 Marguet pre-arrivals.
Please share if you would for comparison shopping [cheers.gif]

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#1748 Post by AndrewH » May 13th, 2020, 7:11 pm

Any ballers go for the 2002 Krug Clos D'Ambonnay?
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#1749 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » May 13th, 2020, 7:15 pm

AndrewH wrote:
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Any ballers go for the 2002 Krug Clos D'Ambonnay?
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#1750 Post by Brian DesPlaines » May 13th, 2020, 8:46 pm

Definitely a bold offer, mid-quarantine.

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