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#1 Post by Barry Paul Price » April 9th, 2017, 6:45 pm

It's fun, though not exactly a sophisticated simulation:
http://www.wineeducation.com/winesim.tpl

I enjoyed trying to create a cult wine by relentlessly upgrading the grape and winemaker while limiting volume.
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#2 Post by Joe Raymond » April 9th, 2017, 8:46 pm

I went bankrupt $400,000 in the hole. I better stick to my day job and enjoy the wine rather than try to make the wine:)
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#3 Post by Barry Paul Price » April 9th, 2017, 9:30 pm

Joe Raymond wrote:I went bankrupt $400,000 in the hole. I better stick to my day job and enjoy the wine rather than try to make the wine:)
Yeah, I busted the first time too. Nailed it the second time, ending w $61m. But that was only worth 600 points, which ranks like 900th place on their hall of fame.

So someone managed to create a billion dollar winery somehow in that game.
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#4 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » April 9th, 2017, 9:51 pm

I got 177m, still had a few vintages with $0

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#5 Post by ncostanzo1 » April 9th, 2017, 9:59 pm

Sounds fun this should be a fun time killer!
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#6 Post by Blake R Maso » April 9th, 2017, 11:21 pm

This thing has just sucked a couple hours of my life away for a mere 200 mil...

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#7 Post by Henry Kiichli » April 9th, 2017, 11:50 pm

You Win!
You ended with $267,354,350
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
5,347
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#8 Post by David Glasser » April 10th, 2017, 3:53 am

Setting up as high quality and touristy, upgrading the vineyard 4/5 years and the winery every 5th year, all-out marketing and picking the most expensive winemaking plus all new oak every year gave this result:

You ended with $385,666,346
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of: 7,713

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#9 Post by Victor Hong » April 10th, 2017, 9:22 am

Who created the game, Ray Walker?
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#10 Post by cjsavino » April 10th, 2017, 9:27 am

Crashed year 3 with bacteria problems
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#11 Post by Eric Egan » April 10th, 2017, 12:51 pm

100002 points.

Start with a small budget, making good wine with 1/2 new oak from a hipster region using only guerrilla advertising. As soon as you reach the public eye, buy in mid-quality grapes (but keep upgrading winery and vineyard every other year), post in all the magazines and go for volume over quality.

A pretty accurate reflection of the current wine market if you ask me...
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#12 Post by amjohnstone » April 11th, 2017, 11:00 am

This is like the Oregon Trail of winery sims. I keep expecting to lose a wagon wheel or die of dysentery.
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#13 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 11:04 am

I'd like to sell at the end of year 3, please.... Net Worth: $11,370,661.

I guess I have no buyer who's crazy enough to jump in, so on I go.

Net Worth: $15,146,072 at end of Year 4: something bad has to happen soon.

Net Worth: $18,993,752 at end of year 5.

End year 6: $23,321,476.

Please, buy me out!

I knew it....end of year 7: $13,223,206.

I am watching out for a ball bustingly bad year 8...but no, end of year 8 = $18,846,744

Year 9 is Copper Casse. Down to $14,782,562.

End of year 10: $20,555,068. I am going to do the winery upgrade....ouch, a million bucks into the winery and Copper Casse again. Down to $12,696,541.

Year 12....did no upgrades...$17,891,023

Year 13, a million into the vineyard upgrade...$21,197,480

Year 14, no upgrades. I have only been buying mountain grapes with guerilla marketing the whole time. Always the finishing upgrades..."oak" and "quality."This was my first "Good Vintage!" I'd like another one of those, please! $28,637,083

Year 15, got optimistic and upgraded the vineyard again for a million bucks: "Terrible vintage!" Then, Mannitic fermentation! $12,933,495.

Year 16, approached with caution...poor vintage and a worker killed...$21,042,030. Hope I stay out of jail.

Year 16, a million into the winery, average vintage....value steady.

Year 17, average vintage...$32,291,921.

Year 18...poor vintage, but good result...$41,687,466

Year 19...my second 'good vintage!' $56,935,624

Year 20....will the winery burn down? How ill the game screw me? let's see...no upgrades...average vintage...mannic fermentation again! $40,017,248 and I can retire!

Final score of 1,601.

Started as the retiree, only guerilla marketing, always upgraded quality and oak, scattered winery and vineyard upgrades, only mountain fruit.

That was tense.

Only two good vintages in 20 years, though.
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#14 Post by Paul Luckin » April 11th, 2017, 11:48 am

1st run - crashed and burned in Year 3

2nd run -
You ended with $119,231,744
You Started with $2,500,000
That gives you a final score of:
4,769
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#15 Post by M McCombs » April 11th, 2017, 12:14 pm

I didn't see the option to bribe critics with hookers and cocaine. Did I miss it?
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#16 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 12:21 pm

M McCombs wrote:I didn't see the option to bribe critics with hookers and cocaine. Did I miss it?
That's considered "marketing" and is part of the million dollar option.
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#17 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 12:22 pm

David Glasser wrote:Setting up as high quality and touristy, upgrading the vineyard 4/5 years and the winery every 5th year, all-out marketing and picking the most expensive winemaking plus all new oak every year gave this result:

You ended with $385,666,346
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of: 7,713
Plonk.
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#18 Post by R_Gilbane » April 11th, 2017, 12:30 pm

Kept looking for the "Hard Core Sell Out" button. Left disappointed. If they add some minor graphics to the game it would add immensely to the fun factor. Thinking something along the lines of this:

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#19 Post by Walt Hoehler » April 11th, 2017, 12:38 pm

You ended with $95,307,009
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
1,906

final bottle px was $49.80

I stuck to quality pretty much the whole way and balanced vineyard/winery investments. Only one bad year. No drama.

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#20 Post by Todd F r e n c h » April 11th, 2017, 12:41 pm

I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns...
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#21 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 12:43 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns...
Same thing happened to me.

That's what we get for not investing enough in the winery upgrades.

Luckily, the business climate is such that it's not like something bad happened.
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#22 Post by Walt Hoehler » April 11th, 2017, 12:52 pm

OSHA shmOSHA. no big deal [wink.gif]

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#23 Post by amjohnstone » April 11th, 2017, 12:54 pm

R_Gilbane wrote:Kept looking for the "Hard Core Sell Out" button. Left disappointed. If they add some minor graphics to the game it would add immensely to the fun factor. Thinking something along the lines of this:

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#24 Post by Scott Everson » April 11th, 2017, 1:21 pm

I apologize for the drift, but someone did mention hookers and cocaine. Are there wineries who have allegedly done this, or was it just a joke?

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#25 Post by Barry Paul Price » April 11th, 2017, 2:42 pm

amjohnstone wrote:This is like the Oregon Trail of winery sims. I keep expecting to lose a wagon wheel or die of dysentery.
I think that's part of why I love it so much. At any arbitrary moment your winery can be smitten from existence by a strain of bacteria, or falling barrels killing the winemaker.

Nice contrast to fancy wine tastings and the adoration of the critics. lol.
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#26 Post by Barry Paul Price » April 11th, 2017, 3:04 pm

Anton D wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns...
Same thing happened to me.

That's what we get for not investing enough in the winery upgrades.

Luckily, the business climate is such that it's not like something bad happened.
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#27 Post by TomC » April 11th, 2017, 4:19 pm

The only metric is in monetary terms. What if the game had an option to also rate your performance in terms of RP points achieved? Now that would be interesting...
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#28 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 4:28 pm

TomC wrote:The only metric is in monetary terms. What if the game had an option to also rate your performance in terms of RP points achieved? Now that would be interesting...
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That would be fun.
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#29 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 11th, 2017, 5:30 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns...
I killed him twice. He's more that dead already.

And I'm bankrupt all three times.

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#30 Post by M McCombs » April 11th, 2017, 5:52 pm

Bankrupt the first four times. Think I killed a guy with a forklift in one of the runs. Ended with $149m on round five. That is Wagner level money.
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#31 Post by Anton D » April 11th, 2017, 6:00 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns...
I killed him twice. He's more that dead already.

And I'm bankrupt all three times.
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I like the chat about the game as much as I like the game! More!

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#32 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 11th, 2017, 6:09 pm

Fun thread!!

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#33 Post by Scott Watkins » April 11th, 2017, 8:00 pm

I learned that scandal in year 13 (damn hookers) can ruin you and tourists can get you through the tough times! Build a castle they will come [wow.gif]
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#34 Post by Peter Tryba » April 11th, 2017, 8:52 pm

I had no idea so many people died during the winemaking process!

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#35 Post by David Glasser » April 11th, 2017, 9:15 pm

Anton D wrote:
David Glasser wrote:Setting up as high quality and touristy, upgrading the vineyard 4/5 years and the winery every 5th year, all-out marketing and picking the most expensive winemaking plus all new oak every year gave this result:

You ended with $385,666,346
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of: 7,713
Plonk.
Agreed. I thought about the high-volume wines we tend to criticize here and tried to emulate it. Plonk sells!

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#36 Post by Wes Barton » April 11th, 2017, 10:09 pm

Victor Hong wrote:Who created the game, Ray Walker?
Looks like his sort of business model, considering all the income the first year.
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#37 Post by Wes Barton » April 11th, 2017, 10:12 pm

Scott Everson wrote:I apologize for the drift, but someone did mention hookers and cocaine. Are there wineries who have allegedly done this, or was it just a joke?
Back in the '70s.
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#38 Post by S.Homewood » April 12th, 2017, 10:05 am

This is too easy, anyone got 5 million I can borrow?

First time, I tried to play smart -- got to about 65mm at the end. Second try, I went all out for touristy and high quality. I was making more off tourists(40mm/year) than the wine at the end.

You Win!
You ended with $275,093,651
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
5,502
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#39 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 12th, 2017, 10:32 am

Ok, I sold myself like a cheap [insert your favorite saying].

Evidently AFWE leads one to poor house, nobody wants those flavorless wines. So I decided to make average hooch, but market myself like Vegas and oak the crap out of the wine. I built a small-like fortune, got bored, cashed out to Kendall Jackson, and am now hanging out in Cabo in a yellow speedo.


Net Worth:
$75,741,094
End of Year:
15
Bottle Price:
$ 32.56

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#40 Post by Barry Paul Price » April 12th, 2017, 2:08 pm

There are so many great quotes in this thread:

"AFWE leads one to poor house, nobody wants those flavorless wines" - Robert Alfert Jr.

"I keep expecting to lose a wagon wheel or die of dysentery." - amjohnstone

"Only two good vintages in 20 years" - Anton D

"I didn't see the option to bribe critics with hookers and cocaine." - M McCombs

"I was doing well until I apparently killed a winery employee doing punchdowns.." - Todd French

"Same thing happened to me." - Anton D.'s response to Todd

"I killed him twice...And I'm bankrupt all three times." - Robert Alfert Jr.

"Bankrupt the first four times. Think I killed a guy with a forklift" - M McCombs

"I had no idea so many people died during the winemaking process" - Peter Tryba

and, definitively...

"Plonk sells!" - David Glasser
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#41 Post by R_Gilbane » April 12th, 2017, 5:42 pm

Sold out from the get go. Made cheap ass plonk that was a crime against humanity but my marketing was slicker than rat ****. And it paid off in spades. I was pulling in over $100M a year in tourism. I am the Del Dotto of this online empire.

You Win!
You ended with $717,938,213
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
14,359
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#42 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 12th, 2017, 5:48 pm

R_Gilbane wrote:Sold out from the get go. Made cheap ass plonk that was a crime against humanity but my marketing was slicker than rat ****. And it paid off in spades. I was pulling in over $100M a year in tourism. I am the Del Dotto of this online empire.

You Win!
You ended with $717,938,213
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
14,359
SHAMEFUL

You should be banned. And applauded!

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#43 Post by R_Gilbane » April 12th, 2017, 6:25 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
R_Gilbane wrote:Sold out from the get go. Made cheap ass plonk that was a crime against humanity but my marketing was slicker than rat ****. And it paid off in spades. I was pulling in over $100M a year in tourism. I am the Del Dotto of this online empire.

You Win!
You ended with $717,938,213
You Started with $5,000,000
That gives you a final score of:
14,359
SHAMEFUL

You should be banned. And applauded!

;)
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#44 Post by John Donaghue » April 12th, 2017, 9:35 pm

Joe Raymond wrote:I went bankrupt $400,000 in the hole. I better stick to my day job and enjoy the wine rather than try to make the wine:)
Whoa, didn't think they were going to go so hard for realism
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#45 Post by Eric Wilson » April 13th, 2017, 8:31 am

This was fun. Results from the first go:

You Win!
You ended with $96,320,232
You Started with $2,500,000
That gives you a final score of:
3,853

No one was killed, but lost a bit due to some employee incompetence.

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#46 Post by Jorge Henriquez » April 13th, 2017, 9:15 am

Cashed out at year 12 with $37M........

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#47 Post by Anton D » April 13th, 2017, 9:17 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:Cashed out at year 12 with $37M........

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#48 Post by Jorge Henriquez » April 13th, 2017, 9:19 am

Anton D wrote:
Jorge Henriquez wrote:Cashed out at year 12 with $37M........

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Fun (but very basic) 'Run A Winery' Game

#49 Post by Scott Butler » April 13th, 2017, 9:44 am

cjsavino wrote:Crashed year 3 with bacteria problems

Me too...boo
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Fun (but very basic) 'Run A Winery' Game

#50 Post by Scott Butler » April 13th, 2017, 9:52 am

2nd time around I was at $45 mio in year 16, but then got bored and sold it all to Constellation, and retired. I am still the consulting winemaker, fyi.
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