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#1 Post by Steve Gautier » March 14th, 2017, 4:32 pm

Will Segui just tweeted out what looks like his "new" venture - williammarywineco.com

Would love to hear more details than are on the website.
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#2 Post by Eric S n y d e r » March 14th, 2017, 4:54 pm

Signed up, curious to hear more about it.

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#3 Post by Saul Mutchnick » March 14th, 2017, 4:59 pm

My first thought when I saw the title was that W&M added a viticulture/enology program (and I was confused). It'll be interesting to see if they run into any trademark issues with the College.
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#4 Post by T Fletcher » March 14th, 2017, 5:11 pm

Signed up. Been waiting for this for 3+ years.
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#5 Post by Bud Carey » March 14th, 2017, 5:17 pm

Me too. Tasted it last summer. We'll be buying!!
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#6 Post by PaulMills » March 14th, 2017, 5:51 pm

Has a price point been revealed?

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#7 Post by jhemming » March 14th, 2017, 6:37 pm

Signed up and can't wait to hear more
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#8 Post by Rob Isaacs » March 14th, 2017, 7:05 pm

I'm in, fruit source is top notch.

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#9 Post by Andrew Demaree » March 14th, 2017, 7:40 pm

Any info you can share?

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#10 Post by Justin Wittkopf » March 15th, 2017, 5:47 am

I am certainly not "in the know" on this but I do recall Will talking about this project several years ago when we met him in Napa. As I recall, the vineyard source is actually in the family, on his wife's side, and is in/around the oak knoll area of Napa. The fruit had been sold to others for years. I also recall something about Bond being interested in the vineyard at some point, if I recall correctly, but I was getting tipsy courtesy of Will, so I may be wrong.

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#11 Post by Rob Isaacs » March 15th, 2017, 6:37 am

I was visiting Rivers Marie with some friends in October 2015 and Will asked where else we were going. We told him we were going to Shifflett Estate to see Jeffrey. Thats when he told us that he was starting William & Mary with grapes from the best spot of the Shifflett vineyard. His wife is related and got access to the grapes. I'm pretty sure they got good grapes because Shifflett didn't seem to happy about it at all. That being said, when we were at Shifflett's we had a bottle of his 98 cab and it might have been the best bottle we had all week. I'm excited to try what Will has done with these grapes.

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#12 Post by William Segui » March 15th, 2017, 9:38 am

Thank you all for your interest in my project. It is exciting & terrifying all at once.

Additional info:

Shifflett Vineyard, western side of the Valley. 100 acre ranch, about 50 under vine. Fruit goes to a number of great folks - Sinegal, Nickel & Nickel (Bear Flat Merlot is 100% Shifflett), Pride, Revana, Blackbird, etc. My block is 1.1 acres on the hill, clone 7 planted in 1994.

I am the winemaker, I made the wine at Mending Wall in St. Helena. I am planning to offer the wine for sale on Tuesday (3/21). 100 cs in 2014, looks like 85-ish in 2015.

I have spoken to a trademark lawyer and my understanding is that I have the legal right to use the name, as trademarks apply to the field within which they operate (education v wine).
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#13 Post by Corey N. » March 15th, 2017, 9:40 am

Saul Mutchnick wrote:It'll be interesting to see if they run into any trademark issues with the College.
This was my immediate thought too.
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#14 Post by Al Osterheld » March 15th, 2017, 9:43 am

You can always go with Mary and William.

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#15 Post by Bud Carey » March 15th, 2017, 9:48 am

... or William and Molly!! :-)
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#16 Post by Alex G » March 15th, 2017, 9:57 am

William Segui wrote:I made the wine at Mending Wall in St. Helena.
Holy smokes, really?! I had no idea!

Did you make their 2013s? We LOVE those!
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#17 Post by Jake Rubash » March 15th, 2017, 10:13 am

Pretty sure he meant that he made this project in their facility... A number of wineries use the Mending Wall facility (Which I think is owned, or partly owned, by TRB)
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William Segui wrote:I made the wine at Mending Wall in St. Helena.
Holy smokes, really?! I had no idea!

Did you make their 2013s? We LOVE those!

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#18 Post by Rich Brown » March 15th, 2017, 10:15 am

Alex G wrote:
William Segui wrote:I made the wine at Mending Wall in St. Helena.
Holy smokes, really?! I had no idea!

Did you make their 2013s? We LOVE those!
Me either! I thought those were made by TRB??

Did you make the PS from there as well??

Signed up yesterday - excited to hear more about the wines!

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#19 Post by Bud Carey » March 15th, 2017, 10:24 am

I think what Will is saying is that he made his W&M cab at the Mending Wall facility.
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#20 Post by Rich Brown » March 15th, 2017, 10:26 am

Bud Carey wrote:I think what Will is saying is that he made his W&M cab at the Mending Wall facility.
Ahhh. Yeah....that probably makes more sense :)

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#21 Post by William Segui » March 15th, 2017, 10:30 am

Bud Carey wrote:I think what Will is saying is that he made his W&M cab at the Mending Wall facility.
Mending Wall is a custom crush facility owned by Thomas, Frank & Kathy Dotzler (Outpost) & Mark Pulido/Donna Walker (Pulido-Walker). Thomas is the winemaker for the Mending Wall wines and the other projects there (Riverain, Maybach, etc). And I agree that the 13 MW Cab is terrific, although I might prefer the 14?

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#22 Post by Alex G » March 15th, 2017, 11:48 am

Got it -- I thought that that maybe you made the MW wine instead of Thomas.

Wishing you the best of luck with this Will!
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#23 Post by Markus S » March 15th, 2017, 12:23 pm

Virginia wines, huh.
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#24 Post by Tom Reddick » March 20th, 2017, 7:09 pm

I signed up last Tuesday. Does anyone know how it works tomorrow? Do we get an email or do we need to log in and keep checking? Given the eager anticipation out there and the small production, I am guessing tomorrow will be a busy day!
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#25 Post by Joe B » March 20th, 2017, 7:23 pm

I'd join but can't find a website.
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#26 Post by Andrew Demaree » March 20th, 2017, 7:38 pm

It's listed in the first post of this thread.

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#27 Post by Bdklein » March 20th, 2017, 7:56 pm

William Segui wrote:
I have spoken to a trademark lawyer and my understanding is that I have the legal right to use the name, as trademarks apply to the field within which they operate (education v wine).
Since when are education and alcohol mutually exclusive ? I thought college is where you go to learn about alcohol?
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#28 Post by Joe B » March 20th, 2017, 8:06 pm

Andrew Demaree wrote:It's listed in the first post of this thread.
Ok. That worked now
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#29 Post by Bud Carey » March 21st, 2017, 4:05 am

Today's the day! Can't wait!!!
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#30 Post by jhemming » March 21st, 2017, 9:09 am

Up now.
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#31 Post by Joe B » March 21st, 2017, 9:19 am

Took three as it is first release with no knowns about this wine and never tasted anything from that area.
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#32 Post by Brian Tuite » March 21st, 2017, 9:20 am

$110 w/3 bottle minimum. Hopefully I'll get to try this somewhere along the way. Just can't afford it. I'm sure they'll sell out quickly though.
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#33 Post by Tom Reddick » March 21st, 2017, 9:25 am

I went deep based on reputation and site. Very nice price for the rarity factor. It's always a risk, but fun to be there at the start. I will post a TN once they arrive and settle.
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#34 Post by Eric S n y d e r » March 21st, 2017, 10:54 am

Also in for 3 based on site and reputation. Will, can you tell us anything about the wine other than 'it smells good?' ;)

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#35 Post by cjsavino » March 21st, 2017, 11:20 am

Mm no email
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#36 Post by MOrsino » March 21st, 2017, 11:40 am

I went deep also; based on reputation and scarcity alone. I have little doubt this wine will be fantastic based on vintage, terroir and winemaker...

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#37 Post by Bud Carey » March 21st, 2017, 1:06 pm

I'm in for 6 plus a magnum. Been waiting for these for a long time!!!
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#38 Post by larry schaffer » March 21st, 2017, 1:23 pm

Better save some for Falltacular, Will!!!
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#39 Post by Rob Isaacs » March 21st, 2017, 1:29 pm

In for three and a mag, can't wait to try this wine.

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#40 Post by M A T T H A R T L E Y » March 21st, 2017, 2:06 pm

I went in for six and a magnum.

Excited to try the wine!
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#41 Post by Jonathan Sirot » March 21st, 2017, 2:08 pm

Does anyone know if shipping is included ? I couldn't find anywhere that it charged me as I was just trying to put through an order...

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#42 Post by M A T T H A R T L E Y » March 21st, 2017, 2:11 pm

Jonathan Sirot wrote:Does anyone know if shipping is included ? I couldn't find anywhere that it charged me as I was just trying to put through an order...
It was included on my order
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#43 Post by Sean Malloy » March 21st, 2017, 2:40 pm

Very cool. Congrats, Will. Odd question, but here it goes....when I went to law school at UVA in Charlottesville, there were TONS of Shiffletts in the area. The probably apocryphal story is that there was a Hessian mercenary soldier from the Revolutionary War who was captured and sent to prison camp in the area, but there basically weren't any walls and he roamed around hooking up with local women until there were lots of progeny running around. Thus the many Shiffletts years later. I assume that's not true, but is there a connection to the name of the vineyard and winery and Virginia?

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#44 Post by William Segui » March 21st, 2017, 3:23 pm

What a great day - thank you all for your orders, interest and support. Not many have had the opportunity to try the wine, so I doubly appreciate the faith you all have in what I'm doing. If you are in the area please let me know, I'd love to run you through all the things I have going on.

I noticed a few questions upstream, here goes:

*shipping is included and weather permitting will start as soon as possible.

*Shifflett -- good question, one I will have to ask over the next family dinner. My mother-in law is a Shifflett (one of five here in the Valley) and they have been on the property since the 40's. Something about the midwest/Ohio rings a bell, but as a family really interesting, diverse history.

*Falltacular -- was sad to miss this year but I'll be there in 18 and I'll see if I can sneak a bottle on to the tiny little countertop upstairs down the hall they keep for Cabernet [wow.gif]

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#45 Post by Jonathan Sirot » March 21st, 2017, 3:39 pm

Thanks Will that is a really nice gesture. I also appreciate that you took the time to pm me out of your busy day. With customer service like this you will go far. Order in !

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#46 Post by Gary Ahearn » March 21st, 2017, 7:52 pm

Will,

Any discounts for alumni? [basic-smile.gif]

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#47 Post by Bdklein » March 22nd, 2017, 4:42 am

Gary Ahearn wrote:Will,

Any discounts for alumni? [basic-smile.gif]

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#48 Post by Bud Carey » March 22nd, 2017, 4:58 am

Alumni get free shipping... along with everybody else!!! :-) :-)
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#49 Post by MitchTallan » March 22nd, 2017, 8:43 am

Something about the midwest/Ohio rings a bell, but as a family really interesting, diverse history.
Ha. I have run into Shiffletts in Marion, OH, one of whom was a very colorful bodily injury lawyer and former Viet Nam helicopter pilot, Dan Shifflett, now deceased. Congrats on everything Will. I am not a cab drinker, but I were...

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#50 Post by Chris Blum » March 22nd, 2017, 8:50 am

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