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Re: Cellartracker Fun! What were You Drinking 10 Years Ago?

#51 Post by lleichtman » December 31st, 2018, 10:40 pm

Was on call that night. Didn't have a single glass until the second.
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#52 Post by David Glasser » January 1st, 2019, 8:21 am

Ten years ago:
1990 Krug
2001 Dauvissat La Forest
1994 L'Evangile
1982 Penfolds Grange
2000 Shafer Hillside Select
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#53 Post by J a y H a c k » January 1st, 2019, 12:46 pm

I was in Las Vegas:
  • 2004 Saxum Broken Stones - USA, California, Central Coast, Paso Robles (12/27/2008)
    BYO at Roy's Restaurant in Las Vegas. This is a truly outstanding wine that has lost a little bit of the explosive up front force of its youth and has thus revealed the complexities of its back bone. There is a melange of raspberry from the Grenache, silky smoothness of the Mourvedre and spice from the Syrah. I did not even notice the alcohol level, so it has smoothed out as well. But this is not a shy and retiring wine. There's meatiness, a bit of smokiness, a long finish and a virtually opaque red-black color. (92 pts.)
  • 2001 Pahlmeyer Proprietary Red - USA, California, Napa Valley (12/27/2008)
    At Roy's Restaurant in Las Vegas. Decanted for only about 10 minutes. This is a great wine that has developed complexity over time. Red fruit, chocolate and roast meat predominate. A bit of coffee and a tiny bit of vanilla from the oak but you have to go looking for it. The wood doesn't smack you in the face. Very dark. This was especially interesting because it was only 10 days after the Ghost Horse Challenge and points out that two relaxed larger pours allow you to appreciate a wine much more than 2 ounces you have to drink fast because there are 11 wines to try. I enjoyed this wine much more than any of the wines that night, although I know that if I drank this next to the 2002 SHSS (exactly what I did about 2 years ago), the SHSS is a bit better. Not to criticize the other format, which I enjoyed immensely, but there is a huge taste advantage to relaxed drinking of wine over 2 hours. (94 pts.)
  • 2004 Schäfer-Fröhlich Monzinger Halenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs - Germany, Nahe (12/27/2008)
    Off the list at Lotus of Siam in Las Vegas. A great find at any restaurant; a stupendous find at a hole in the wall in a strip mall next door to a wig shop, and extraordinary at only $65. The wine has a pale golden color, a riesling soft nose of white fruit, and a palate of white fruit, minerals and fresh clean rocks. No sugar and technically pretty close to bone dry but it has the appearance of sweetness from the wonderful fruit. Drinks extremely well with the Thai food but would stand up exquisitely on its own. This lacks a bit of the complexity and strength of the Keller GGs I have had, but it is in the same ball park. (91 pts.)
  • 2005 DuMOL Chardonnay Chloe - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (12/27/2008)
    Off the list for $85 at Lotus of Siam in Las Vegas. I paid $60 plus shipping to buy the exact same wine from the winery. 'Nuf said about a great restaurant pricing policy. This is a sublimely delicious wine. There were four of us but I got just one glass because one of our guests was a chardonnay lover and devoured this wine. White fruit predominates with creamy soft vanilla, floral notes and some kumquat/mandarin orange citrus in the background. There's pear and some white peach along with chardonnay grape flavor. Excellent balance and a long finish. Kerry Murphy told me a few years ago that he was aiming for a more Burgundian style of chardonnay than the more common CA style. I think it would be fair to say he straddles a middle ground. No wood chips and no sweet syrupy vanilla a la pop culture CA chardonnay. (93 pts.)
  • 2005 Scholium Project Glos McDowell - USA, California, Napa Valley, Rutherford (12/27/2008)
    Brought to Lotus of Siam at the recommendation of another BB member so we could give a glass of Scholium to Bang, but Bang was off for lunch so we left him a glass in the bottom of the bottle. This is an outstanding wine with a mix of tropical fruit and floral notes of a good sauvignon blanc with the minerality that Abe Schoener always seems to stuff into his wines. The Scholium wines always have some extra component that comes out of the grape that is often missed in other wines. Imagine what would happen if you took, let's say, the light fruity flavor of a good New Zealand SB and added the minerality and acidity of a white Bordeaux. Abe gets both in the same glass. I have a few more of these and I look forward to having one without food (especially spicy food) because I think it will be even better on its own. (92 pts.)
  • 2002 Bressler Cabernet Sauvignon - USA, California, Napa Valley, St. Helena (12/31/2008)
    Very nice CA Cab. Decanted for an hour then drunk over five hours. The nose develops over time along with the palate. It's tight to start, but the nose gradually develops red fruit, eucalyptus, and a very light coffee and tobacco. The palate likewise builds up red fruit, meatiness, coffee, perhaps a tad chocolate. After four hours or so, there's even a bit of Bordeaux saddle leatherin the background. Color is clean dark red wine color, almost opaque when the decanter is held close to the light. The finish is average, not particularly memorable. (91 pts.)
  • 2004 Dain Wines Pinot Noir American Beauty Amber Ridge Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (12/31/2008)
    Age has served this wine very well. The nose is now a strong tart cherry. The color is darker than I expected, clean red wine color and opaque unless you hold the decanter up to the light, but not quite as dark as the Bressler Cab we had after it. The palate is red fruit and what I have to call mature pinot funk because I don't know what else to call it. When young I'm not a big fan, but when older, it's a pleasant balance that adds complexity. None of those bad things that people complain about in CA pinot like cherry coke and "too sweet and syrupy." Finish is average. (91 pts.)
  • 2004 Pax Syrah Cuvée Christine - USA, California, Sonoma County (1/1/2009)
    Brought to Boulud's at the Wynn in Las Vegas. I threw the bottle into a bag on my way to the restaurant, figuring we would drink it afterwards in the casino because I thought DB did not allow BYO. It turned out that they did, with a $50 corkage, and I decided to pay the fee (more than average but it's Vegas and the wine list prices were making me dizzy). This wine has really smoothed out over the past 2 years. Popped, decanted and poured. The nose was a little light but the palate was very strong. Roast meats, red fruit, spiciness but a very smooth mouth feel that has developed softness with a bit of age. Moderate finish. (92 pts.)
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#54 Post by Doug Lee » January 2nd, 2019, 9:18 am

Krug 1996.

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#55 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » January 2nd, 2019, 9:58 am

I will only admit that I brought a double maggie of Monbousquet (Moonbiscuit) to a NYE party. I had not tried it before, but certainly the critics liked the 2000 vintage. In a house party of high-end Cali wines, plus one Cheval Blanc, not many people touched the Moonbiscuit, and I was left with the 1998 Cheval almost to myself. It was a terrible evening. ;)

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#56 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 3rd, 2019, 6:26 am

Fun thread. No idea. But I looked on Wine Disorder to see if a record of NYE 2009 was preserved. Nope as far as I could tell. (The WD search feature is a challenge.)

Closest thing I could find were these two gems written up by and/or involving some internet wine legends some of you know/knew and love/loved or *um* embody.

http://winedisorder.com/comment/56/1244/

http://winedisorder.com/comment/56/1468/
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#57 Post by Dennis Atick » January 3rd, 2019, 6:44 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 12:46 pm
I was in Las Vegas:

[*]2004 Dain Wines Pinot Noir American Beauty Amber Ridge Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (12/31/2008)
Age has served this wine very well. The nose is now a strong tart cherry. The color is darker than I expected, clean red wine color and opaque unless you hold the decanter up to the light, but not quite as dark as the Bressler Cab we had after it. The palate is red fruit and what I have to call mature pinot funk because I don't know what else to call it. When young I'm not a big fan, but when older, it's a pleasant balance that adds complexity. None of those bad things that people complain about in CA pinot like cherry coke and "too sweet and syrupy." Finish is average. (91 pts.)
Blast from the past! Dain wines! Was on that bandwagon for a while and was also drinking them 10 years ago.
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#58 Post by Jayson Cohen » January 3rd, 2019, 6:53 am

Another data point: Jan 6, 2009. Great dinner at now-defunct Trestle on Tenth with Jim Grossberg (guest of honor), Sasha Katsman, Joe Dougherty, and Josh Raynolds. But can’t reconstruct what we drank. From email, probably CRB Sauvignon 2007, something older and good from Rougeard/Breton/Baudry/Raffault, a Dauvissat Clos, etc. A fine time was had by all, but Josh was stuck at Penn Station afterward for a couple hours hauling himself back to Long Island.
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#59 Post by J a y H a c k » January 3rd, 2019, 7:24 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
January 3rd, 2019, 6:44 am
J a y H a c k wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 12:46 pm
I was in Las Vegas:

[*]2004 Dain Wines Pinot Noir American Beauty Amber Ridge Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (12/31/2008)
Age has served this wine very well. The nose is now a strong tart cherry. The color is darker than I expected, clean red wine color and opaque unless you hold the decanter up to the light, but not quite as dark as the Bressler Cab we had after it. The palate is red fruit and what I have to call mature pinot funk because I don't know what else to call it. When young I'm not a big fan, but when older, it's a pleasant balance that adds complexity. None of those bad things that people complain about in CA pinot like cherry coke and "too sweet and syrupy." Finish is average. (91 pts.)
Blast from the past! Dain wines! Was on that bandwagon for a while and was also drinking them 10 years ago.
I was with my wife and two women friends of ours. I always pulled out an "American Beauty" in those situations. I wish someone else making good wine would pick up the name and start using it again because my Dain versions are all gone. Patricia Green Cellars?
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#60 Post by Kirk.Grant » January 3rd, 2019, 9:47 am

Looking back, I think this was when my wine focus started to change...I start seeing more aged wines. This was the summer I discovered Musar. Stand-out wines in 2008 were:

1975 Château Margaux
1988 Stony Hill Riesling
1991 Stony Hill Chardonnay
1995 Chateau Musar
1999 Domaine Roulot Monthélie (This was only $35/bottle back then)
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#61 Post by Todd F r e n c h » January 3rd, 2019, 10:05 am

wow, this is fascinating! Great thread, Dennis!!!

I was all OVER the place, wow... (one week example, 12/24/08 - 1/3/09)

2007 Saint-Cosme Côtes du Rhône
2006 Carlisle Syrah Sonoma County
2005 Château Pontet-Canet
2001 Château Pavie
2005 Chasseur Chardonnay Russian River Valley
1989 S. Anderson Cabernet Sauvignon Richard Chambers Vineyard
2004 Tobin James Lagrein Silver Reserve
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#62 Post by Jason Hagen » January 3rd, 2019, 11:18 am

Some of my favorites.

  • 1996 Salon Champagne Blanc de Blancs Brut - France, Champagne (9/6/2008)
  • 2002 St. Innocent Pinot Noir Seven Springs Vineyard - USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley (4/4/2008)
  • 1996 Bodegas Ismael Arroyo Ribera del Duero Crianza Val Sotillo - Spain, Castilla y León, Ribera del Duero (2/11/2008)
  • 2004 Long Shadows Wineries Syrah Sequel - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley (3/11/2008)
  • 2006 Sandler Wine Company Syrah Connell Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Bennett Valley (1/11/2008)
  • 2001 Dehlinger Pinot Noir High Plains - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (2/3/2008)
  • 2001 Arcadian Pinot Noir Francesca's Cuvée - USA, California, Central Coast, Santa Lucia Highlands (12/7/2008)
  • 2005 Corté Riva Cabernet Franc - USA, California, North Coast, Napa / Sonoma (7/29/2008)


    And a note that started some discussion.
  • 2005 Switchback Ridge Petite Sirah Peterson Family Vineyard - USA, California, Napa Valley (12/21/2008)
    The wine looks like motor oil. Wow. Nostril coating chocolate, cherry alcohol and rotten prunes. Does not smell like wine but I guess there is something slightly interesting. On the palate, oh my, what in the world. This is a mess. Very hard to believe there is no new oak on this. This is chocolate, milk and vanilla. There is also fruit syrup elements. This is full bodied to the max. You can’t forget the finish. It just stays there thumping your palate. On the second (actually 3rd) day, the tannins made an appearance. Still the seemingly light tannins and very light acid made it impossible to penetrate the richness of the wine. I have never had them together but this smelled and tasted exactly like the Molly Dookers I have had and sometimes enjoyed. But at half the price I will still with the Molly Dooker. So this wine … at least on these nights, did not work for me or my wife but oh what an adventure and I am happy that it brings great pleasure to many of my friends. I really do hope I have the chance to taste this wine in 8-10 years. I am very curious to see how it evolves. (78 pts.)
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#63 Post by Jason Hagen » January 3rd, 2019, 11:25 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
January 3rd, 2019, 7:24 am
Dennis Atick wrote:
January 3rd, 2019, 6:44 am
J a y H a c k wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 12:46 pm
I was in Las Vegas:

[*]2004 Dain Wines Pinot Noir American Beauty Amber Ridge Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (12/31/2008)
Age has served this wine very well. The nose is now a strong tart cherry. The color is darker than I expected, clean red wine color and opaque unless you hold the decanter up to the light, but not quite as dark as the Bressler Cab we had after it. The palate is red fruit and what I have to call mature pinot funk because I don't know what else to call it. When young I'm not a big fan, but when older, it's a pleasant balance that adds complexity. None of those bad things that people complain about in CA pinot like cherry coke and "too sweet and syrupy." Finish is average. (91 pts.)
Blast from the past! Dain wines! Was on that bandwagon for a while and was also drinking them 10 years ago.
I was with my wife and two women friends of ours. I always pulled out an "American Beauty" in those situations. I wish someone else making good wine would pick up the name and start using it again because my Dain versions are all gone. Patricia Green Cellars?

Here is a pic from a dinner I hosted around David Dain's first release. Along with Greg P., Brian Loring and Joe Davis. Sasha Verhage was there as well but is not in the pic.

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#64 Post by Jason T » January 3rd, 2019, 2:22 pm

10 years ago would have been 6 years before I was on CellarTracker and two years before I set off down this path of wine obsession. Which means I was probably drinking Yellow Tail, and unfinished bottles were likely kept under my kitchen sink (coolest room in the house!) for weeks at a time.

I’ve...evolved a bit since then.
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