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#301 Post by M. Dildine » May 25th, 2017, 10:40 am

Tried the '15 "Paso Robles" Zinfandel last night. Lush, sweet Zin fruit.
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#302 Post by Todd F r e n c h » May 25th, 2017, 12:07 pm

CliftonD wrote:Attended a winemaker's dinner with Eric Baugher earlier this week. We had quite an assortment of wines, which included -

2013 Monte Bello Chardonnay
2015 Buchignani Carignane
2014 Lytton Estate Petite Sirah
2013 Lytton Estate Mataro
2014 Monte Bello
1995 Monte Bello
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2009 Lytton Springs
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It was my first time having Ridge wine and I was quite impressed. Unfortunately, I do not have any notes, but definitely enjoyed everything I tasted. I had joined the Monte Bello Collector program earlier this year as per discussion on this board. Now, I may have to consider the ATP as well.
that '95 MB must have been great, and the '09 Lytton Springs and Geezer.

Lots of young stuff, too!
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#303 Post by Blake Brown » May 26th, 2017, 5:12 pm

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#304 Post by Angelo Manioudakis » May 26th, 2017, 5:44 pm

Tonight, 81 Monte Bello, a real beauty and showing very well. Only 12% alcohol!
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#305 Post by Ryan Strasil » May 27th, 2017, 8:24 am

Thoughts on their Merlot? I never see it mentioned.

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#306 Post by Andrew Demaree » June 2nd, 2017, 5:55 pm

2005 Ridge 'Santa Cruz Mountains Estate'
The cork is in great shape and so is the wine, which seems young at age 12. Brambly dark berries and savory roasted meat transition to a wave of spicy black pepper in the finish. There's good acidity here, and plenty of additional aging potential. This was an excellent value. The blend is 58% Cab Sauv and 42% Merlot.
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#307 Post by JonF » June 5th, 2017, 1:55 pm

When we visited the Lytton Springs location in Sonoma last week, we got to try the new 2015 Hooker Creek bottling during the tasting flight. A very interesting wine that seems to occupy a nice middle ground between the bombastic Pagani and the elegant Lytton Springs. Brought a bottle home to enjoy again. They also had some 2010 Lytton Springs open and man, that wine is in a *fantastic* place right now! Starting to take on some nice secondary characteristics compared to the 2015 we had side by side... Took a bottle of that home too!
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#308 Post by Ian Alper » June 5th, 2017, 9:57 pm

Jon - we had the 2010 Lytton Springs last week that we brought to a local restaurant. Agree with your notes - it made me regret (just a little) buying mostly Geyserville since.

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#310 Post by ky1em!ttskus » June 9th, 2017, 4:35 pm

2012 Lytton Springs tonight with pork and veggies.

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#311 Post by Wes Barton » June 10th, 2017, 9:13 pm

At a birthday party for a friend who's been a customer from the '60s and worked with Dave Bennion. Paul came. Had '65 (corked), '67 and '68 Monte Bello and a '78 Jimsomare Cab. So, 3 out of 4 were excellent. Had a nice chat and forced him to try one of my wines.
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#312 Post by Larry Stein » June 10th, 2017, 9:28 pm

The '68 Montebello was from a double magnum. It was something else. Paul Draper also brought a 375 of '65 Souverain Cabernet. It was definltely one of my WOTDs. Another friend brought a 750 of '68 Souverain. It was also great, but there was a certain something about the '65 that made it more compelling than the '68. I admit, I'm really picking nits because the '68 also blew me away.

There was also a magnum of '00 Montebello. Ho Hum (KIDDING!).

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#313 Post by NickRut » June 24th, 2017, 4:16 pm

Who's tried the Boatman? Wondering if it's worth loading up on?
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#314 Post by George Chadwick » June 24th, 2017, 7:04 pm

At today's Farm to Table BBQ:

No BBQ, four tiny plates, the two from Joshua Charles outstanding balanced complex wine friendly flavors, the other two pedestrian.


2014 estate chard
The 2014 and 2015(?) are head and shoulders above previous vintages upon release for my palate. Much more judicious use of oak. In the long run I have no idea.

Carignane Rose new release (?)
Thick wax in the mouth blocks the fruit. Pure Carignane on the excellent finish. This and the Lytton Rose with Rhone varieties a month ago left me shrugging.

2012 Geyserville
Real classy. Bordeaux like structure. Not oaky today. Needs five years. Some volatility peeked through briefly. Awkward teenager. Not sure how it will settle down but some great ingredients.

2014 Boatman
Classic basic middle of the road peppery zin. Give it a year to soften the oak.

2015 Carmichael
Terrific, deep, complex. Not huge. Absolute buy.

2014 estate cab
Classic smooth cab. I would have guessed Napa. Perfect boring wine today. Hold.

2009 Perrone Cab Franc (my bottle purchased earlier)
Big, almost very big, ripe wine. Too young. Sample in tasting room had been tight, not this. Seemed a little too ripe/hot but that could have been the hot day.
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#315 Post by Joseph MR » June 24th, 2017, 7:34 pm

2009 Geyserville, with BBQ carry out yesterday. More floral and earthy on day 2 with fruit in the background.
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#316 Post by TimF » June 24th, 2017, 7:36 pm

I remember getting 2004 Carmichael in the ATP program. I loved it at the time and even called trying order more -- to no avail. Fast forward a decade and I picked up a couple of bottles at auction. The bottle I had today wasn't bad but definitely past its prime. Lots of muddy, stewed fruit.
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#317 Post by Howard Cooper » June 24th, 2017, 9:00 pm

Had a 1978 Geyserville tonight. Spectacular
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#318 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 25th, 2017, 3:48 am

Howard Cooper wrote:Had a 1978 Geyserville tonight. Spectacular
Color me jealous, that's gotta be super cool. Never had one that mature.

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#319 Post by George Chadwick » June 25th, 2017, 8:18 am

TimF wrote:I remember getting 2004 Carmichael in the ATP program. I loved it at the time and even called trying order more -- to no avail. Fast forward a decade and I picked up a couple of bottles at auction. The bottle I had today wasn't bad but definitely past its prime. Lots of muddy, stewed fruit.
I'd be amazed if that was a proper bottle. Sounds cooked.

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#320 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 25th, 2017, 8:27 am

Enjoyed a bottle of '14 Pagani Ranch last night - still surprises me, how that wine is stylistically different from most Ridge Zins (and I enjoy them all)
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#321 Post by George Chadwick » June 25th, 2017, 4:33 pm

2004 Buchignane Carignane at Ridge today was like a great ripe Premier Cru burg. Sniffed it for a long time. Undeniably great wine.

1979 Spring Mt Petite Sirah in perfect shape, meaty and full.

1976 Monte Bello dusty and tired, stored since release. 1987 Monte Bello a little oxidized and tired, stored since release.

2014 Estate Cab showing real balanced young power unlike yesterday's too smooth performance.

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#322 Post by Ed Steinway » June 25th, 2017, 4:53 pm

George Chadwick wrote:
2014 Estate Cab showing real balanced young power unlike yesterday's too smooth performance.
We went to a bling tasting last weekend in SF. All we knew was that there were red and white wines. The 2014 Ridge Estate Cab was the last wine poured. We had no clue that it was the Ridge, even though we had recently tasted it twice. It was so much better than the same wine that we had tasted at the component tasting earlier this year.

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#323 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 25th, 2017, 5:13 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Enjoyed a bottle of '14 Pagani Ranch last night - still surprises me, how that wine is stylistically different from most Ridge Zins (and I enjoy them all)
How so, Todder? It's been a while since I've had a Pagani.

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#324 Post by Wes Barton » June 25th, 2017, 5:59 pm

George Chadwick wrote:1987 Monte Bello a little oxidized and tired, stored since release.
That was one of the first bottles opened, and I think you got a pour hours later. It was fantastic when first poured (my WOTD), but did fade in the glass after 30 or 40 minutes.


There was also a '91 York Creek CS.
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#325 Post by Alan Rath » June 25th, 2017, 6:17 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Enjoyed a bottle of '14 Pagani Ranch last night - still surprises me, how that wine is stylistically different from most Ridge Zins (and I enjoy them all)
Their other Zins (particularly the other two "premier cru" bottlings Lytton Springs and Geyserville) are from very different locations. Even Geyserville and LS (to my tastes) are very different, so I think it's true to form that Pagani should be quite different. What's kind of surprising to me is that, even though I think Pagani is in the slightly cooler location, that wine tends toward a bit more ripeness than either of the other two.
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#326 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 26th, 2017, 9:51 am

Alan Rath wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Enjoyed a bottle of '14 Pagani Ranch last night - still surprises me, how that wine is stylistically different from most Ridge Zins (and I enjoy them all)
Their other Zins (particularly the other two "premier cru" bottlings Lytton Springs and Geyserville) are from very different locations. Even Geyserville and LS (to my tastes) are very different, so I think it's true to form that Pagani should be quite different. What's kind of surprising to me is that, even though I think Pagani is in the slightly cooler location, that wine tends toward a bit more ripeness than either of the other two.
Exactly - more ripeness, less elegance. It's a big zinfandel, powerful bramble fruit, but not overblown.
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#327 Post by AlexS » June 26th, 2017, 6:36 pm

2014 Lytton Springs

Very good but not at the level of the 2014 Geyserville.
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#328 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 26th, 2017, 8:50 pm

AlexS wrote:2014 Lytton Springs

Very good but not at the level of the 2014 Geyserville.
Absolutely agreed on that
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#329 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » June 27th, 2017, 4:05 am

Seeing all the photos from the weekend we were compelled to pull this, a new bottling for us to try. All anyone would want from semi-aged PS: rhubarb, leather & animale in the nose. Subdued cherries and some black fruit with easily appreciated tannins still. Back label describes 1998 Paddock Vines as a nod to softer 70s PS which will show best 5-10 years from vintage. Wine sees 20-25 years effortlessly.
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#330 Post by Howard Cooper » June 27th, 2017, 10:39 am

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
Howard Cooper wrote:Had a 1978 Geyserville tonight. Spectacular
Color me jealous, that's gotta be super cool. Never had one that mature.
It was cool. Very cool.
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#331 Post by TimF » June 27th, 2017, 5:29 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:Had a 1978 Geyserville tonight. Spectacular
I had a bottle of that four or five years ago. I agree. Very memorable.
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#332 Post by TimF » June 27th, 2017, 5:32 pm

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After my bad experience with the Carmichael the other night I decided to pull a bottle of 2001 Paso Robles tonight. This one was delicious. Young and vibrant. Perfect with steak.
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#333 Post by ykwon » July 4th, 2017, 1:31 pm

2013 Pagani Ranch

What a disappointment. I like my zins to have some jamminess to it but this is overly sweet. Really prefer the Bedrock Pagani's against the Ridge.

PSA - for those in DFW. The new West Plano Total Wine just stocked the 2015 Geyserville (50th Anniversary). The distributor was stocking them as I arrived. At $32.99/bottle or $28.03/bottle if you round out to a twelve pack! I grabbed seven.
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#334 Post by R. Smith » July 4th, 2017, 1:39 pm

ykwon wrote:2013 Pagani Ranch

What a disappointment. I like my zins to have some jamminess to it but this is overly sweet. Really prefer the Bedrock Pagani's against the Ridge.
I completely agree. We opened the 2013 Pagani a few weeks ago and it was so unbalanced, I couldn't finish a glass. One of the only Ridge Zins I haven't enjoyed.
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#335 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » July 9th, 2017, 6:48 pm

While our prior bottle held no fascination this was all joy. Very intellectual and compelling Ridge Bordeaux blend that would take a back seat to very few domestic wines. Just delicious from the get-go and great depth and clarity/focus. All anyone could want from what is essentially a second wine.

One day I have to uncork one next to the 01 MB.
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#336 Post by George Chadwick » July 9th, 2017, 8:50 pm

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:While our prior bottle held no fascination this was all joy. Very intellectual and compelling Ridge Bordeaux blend that would take a back seat to very few domestic wines. Just delicious from the get-go and great depth and clarity/focus. All anyone could want from what is essentially a second wine.

One day I have to uncork one next to the 01 MB.
I'm going to follow Glenn's lead and post a TN without telling anyone what the wine is.

I'm drinking the best Ridge wine ever made right now. I'd say open it ASAP.

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#337 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » July 9th, 2017, 10:01 pm

Yeah, my photo never loaded!! What's up with that?

This was the 2001 Home Ranch, Monte Bello Ridge.
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#338 Post by Rich Brown » July 22nd, 2017, 11:57 pm

2003 Lytton West Syrah. Best thing I found in Pueblo West Co (wine-wise). 5 bottles at a local liquor shop that had definitely been there since they were purchased on release, and left standing upright for as many years. For $35....im in for a couple.

Glad I was, because this was a killer wine. Deep purple with only a very slight bit of bricking on the edges. Amazing nose of dusty flowers with a full bodied mouthfull of violets, blue fruits, and pepper, all washed down with a nice shot of acidity to keep it fresh. Damn impressive Syrah, and if the liquor store has any left when we visit my wife's fam again next year (which I'm pretty sure they will), you can be damn sure I'll be buying the rest of em. If you have any in your cellar, serve slightly chilled for maximum satisfaction.
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#339 Post by Wes Barton » July 31st, 2017, 1:37 am

Jimsomare Zin dinner

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'78 Monte Bello (Picchetti/Jimsomare)
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'90
'94
'97
'00

'03
'05
'07
'08

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#340 Post by M. Dildine » July 31st, 2017, 2:31 am

Wes Barton wrote:Jimsomare Zin dinner

'76
'78 Monte Bello (Picchetti/Jimsomare)
'86

'90
'94
'97
'00

'03
'05
'07
'08

'02 Late Picked
'10 Late Harvest
How were they holding up Wes?
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#341 Post by Wes Barton » July 31st, 2017, 4:32 pm

M. Dildine wrote:
Wes Barton wrote:Jimsomare Zin dinner

'76
'78 Monte Bello (Picchetti/Jimsomare)
'86

'90
'94
'97
'00

'03
'05
'07
'08

'02 Late Picked
'10 Late Harvest
How were they holding up Wes?
Very well. The '76 was lovely, but I wouldn't hold onto it any longer. The '78 should hold for a long time. '86 is at peak and the '90 is near it. The '94 is a young beast and needs time. The '00 is at peak and seems to lack substance to age well further - Lovely now, drink 'em up. The '05 seemed like it should've been called Late Picked. Huge range of ABV and expression amongst the wines. We didn't vote, but when we discussed the wines in the first 3 flights they all had their proponents as their favorite.

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#342 Post by AlexS » August 12th, 2017, 3:56 pm

bump

2015 Geyserville Springs 50th Anniversary

Imo, the 2015 Geezer is super impressive juice and built for the cellar. I'm thinking about grabbing a few to forget about.
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#343 Post by NickRut » August 12th, 2017, 4:18 pm

Alex - did you taste there or how did you get? Didn't see that the Lytton had come out.
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#344 Post by Barry Paul Price » August 12th, 2017, 4:54 pm

AlexS wrote:bump

2015 Lytton Springs 50th Anniversary

Imo, the 2015 Lytton is definitely a step up from the 2014, super impressive juice and built for the cellar. I'm thinking about grabbing a few to forget about.
How does Lytton compare to Geyserville
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#345 Post by NickRut » August 12th, 2017, 5:03 pm

Barry - you'll likely enjoy Lytton seeing how much you loved Geyserville. I think it's split 50/50 towards which people prefer.
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#346 Post by AlexS » August 12th, 2017, 5:17 pm

NickRut wrote:Alex - did you taste there or how did you get? Didn't see that the Lytton had come out.
I bought it (the 2015 Geyserville 50th Anniversary) today from a local wine shop.

My apologies for the confusion!!!
Barry Paul Price wrote:How does Lytton compare to Geyserville
If you're referring to the 2015 Lytton vs. 2015 Geezer, I bought the 2015 Geezer and have tasted it. Have not yet tried the 2015 Lytton.

That said, I also grabbed another bottle of the somewhat disappointing 2014 Lytton, which comes off as one of the less inspiring wines from Ridge that I've tasted. As for the 2014 Geezer vs. 2015, my nod goes to the 2014 for drinking now.
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#347 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 12th, 2017, 6:53 pm

AlexS wrote:bump

2015 Lytton Springs 50th Anniversary

Imo, the 2015 Lytton is definitely a step up from the 2014, super impressive juice and built for the cellar. I'm thinking about grabbing a few to forget about.
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#348 Post by AlexS » August 12th, 2017, 6:56 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
AlexS wrote:bump

2015 Lytton Springs 50th Anniversary

Imo, the 2015 Lytton is definitely a step up from the 2014, super impressive juice and built for the cellar. I'm thinking about grabbing a few to forget about.
The Lytton is 50th?
Ugh.

No, it's the actually 2015 Geyserville 50th anniversary...which is the wine I bought and tasted this evening, not the 2015 Lytton. Clearly I'm losing my mind.

Time to correct my earlier posts, my apologies to anyone who may have read my erroneous TN!
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#349 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 12th, 2017, 7:00 pm

And I agree, the 2014 Geezer is drop-dead gorgeous. The 2015 vintage is excellent, just a bit behind 2014.

I have not tried the 2015 Lytton yet.

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#350 Post by AlexS » August 12th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Mr. Alfert, I agree 100% with your assessment. That said, I do think the 2015 Geezer might be a better ager than the 2014...really strikes me as being extremely well-structured.
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