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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#801 Post by alan weinberg » October 16th, 2019, 12:36 pm

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JJK, so you liked the 09 Cristal? Man, so do I. Gonna get another one open before the end of the year, for sure. Love that stuff.
Went to an industry event and 2009 Cristal was the reception wine with caviar....all you could get for 90 minutes and opened about 25 cases of Cristal. Needless to say I tried my best to help depletions, so did the rest of us, and while 99% of us don't sell Cristal, no one ever turned away another glass.

Unreal wine.
I will readily admit that I'd probably get a bit drunk if it was 90 minutes of all you can drink 09 Cristal.
between mouthsful of caviar.

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#802 Post by Frank Murray III » October 20th, 2019, 10:02 am

  • 2010 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Coeur de Cuvée - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (10/20/2019)
    Disgorged 12/2016. 80% Chard / 20% PN. This bottle showed good concentration with pears, yellow apple, stone fruit/peach, zesty in tone with good minerality and structure. I'd vote this the best of the three I have had in the past year, too.
  • 2012 Savart Champagne La Dame de Coeur - France, Champagne (10/20/2019)
    Disgorged 06/2016, 2 g/l dosage, 100% Chard from the Montagne. Leesy, with honey, sweet lime and lightly creamy with saline and a rocky finish. This is built for some age.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#803 Post by Frank Murray III » October 23rd, 2019, 5:11 pm

Am I the only dude on WB drinking Champagne lately? Sheesh.
  • NV Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Shaman 15 Rosé - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (10/23/2019)
    Opened yesterday. Disgorged 09/2015, 73% Chard / 27% PN, with no dosage. There is plenty of texture here, no signs of anything drying or astringent in the absence of the dosage. This is my consistent experience with Benoits wines too, FWIW. The color on this is a mix of copper and peach, akin to a white gold. Stone fruit, green apple, cherry and a lick of saline and prickly citrus into the finish, which has a nice tension to it. This is not an overly complex wine, but this too is not Crayeres or Grande Ruelle either. It's a blend, in the mid $40 range and it's refreshing and delicious. As part of my overall Marguet, I enjoy the Shaman blend and buy it now every year.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#804 Post by Scott E. » October 24th, 2019, 10:55 am

Does sparkling wine count, or will I be shamed and bullied? My wife and I were in the Santa Rosa/Healdsburg area for a few days recently and we stopped at Iron Horse for the first time (its almost an off-road adventure trip getting back in there). We were really impressed with all of their sparkling wines - they were pouring 2013-2015 vintages. Maybe the fact that we had been consuming Pinots and Zins all day had something to do with it? Cheers!
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#805 Post by Al Osterheld » October 24th, 2019, 2:14 pm

A glass of bubbly is great after a day of wine tasting.

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#806 Post by Frank Murray III » October 27th, 2019, 3:18 pm

  • 2008 Bérêche et Fils Champagne Premier Cru Le Cran Ludes - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (10/27/2019)
    Disgorged 11/2015. 3 g/l dosage, 50% PN, 50% Chard. This is the most interesting Champagne that I have had in some time. Distinctly flinty, with pear, apple and a refreshing chalky salinity. There is also a savory note in the finish. This was uniquely good, will last a long time.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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#807 Post by Subu Ramachandran » October 28th, 2019, 4:48 am

2002 Piper Heidsieck "rare" - The design on the bottle is more impressive than whats inside. Lovely nose signalling power and depth but the taste didn't match up. Wine was lacking harmony on the palate. Disappointing.

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#808 Post by K John Joseph » October 28th, 2019, 9:19 am

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2002 Piper Heidsieck "rare" - The design on the bottle is more impressive than whats inside. Lovely nose signalling power and depth but the taste didn't match up. Wine was lacking harmony on the palate. Disappointing.
What did the neck design of the bottle look like? Plastic choker or just gold foil? They've run a number of disgorgements, and I do not believe the wine is improving with extended time on lees. If you can find a release with a plastic choker, it should be excellent.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#809 Post by Subu Ramachandran » October 28th, 2019, 10:17 am

K John Joseph wrote:
October 28th, 2019, 9:19 am
Subu Ramachandran wrote:
October 28th, 2019, 4:48 am
2002 Piper Heidsieck "rare" - The design on the bottle is more impressive than whats inside. Lovely nose signalling power and depth but the taste didn't match up. Wine was lacking harmony on the palate. Disappointing.
What did the neck design of the bottle look like? Plastic choker or just gold foil? They've run a number of disgorgements, and I do not believe the wine is improving with extended time on lees. If you can find a release with a plastic choker, it should be excellent.
John, it was the one with gold foil, I had the plastic choker few years back, will say it was better than this. Anyhow, its because of champagnes like this and many LVMH cuvees (that somehow many seem to like), I gravitate towards grower champagnes! Better quality of champagne at much better prices :)

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#810 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 28th, 2019, 10:23 am

Interesting; I’ve found the opposite; my champagne cellar is probably 50% grand Marques and 50% grower but I almost always reach for a grand marque for serious drinking and pop growers midweek.

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#811 Post by Subu Ramachandran » October 28th, 2019, 10:53 am

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Interesting; I’ve found the opposite; my champagne cellar is probably 50% grand Marques and 50% grower but I almost always reach for a grand marque for serious drinking and pop growers midweek.
I do just the opposite, Grand Marques for a big party when average drinker recognizes the label and fancy bottling and grower champagnes for serious group or special occasion! I guess each to their own!

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#812 Post by Yao C » October 28th, 2019, 11:32 am

Subu Ramachandran wrote:
October 28th, 2019, 10:53 am
I do just the opposite, Grand Marques for a big party when average drinker recognizes the label and fancy bottling and grower champagnes for serious group or special occasion! I guess each to their own!
The grand marques are definitely better crowd pleasers, but I choose to think that it's because of the winemaking/blending than because of the label :P
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#813 Post by Subu Ramachandran » October 28th, 2019, 2:57 pm

Yao C wrote:
October 28th, 2019, 11:32 am
Subu Ramachandran wrote:
October 28th, 2019, 10:53 am
I do just the opposite, Grand Marques for a big party when average drinker recognizes the label and fancy bottling and grower champagnes for serious group or special occasion! I guess each to their own!
The grand marques are definitely better crowd pleasers, but I choose to think that it's because of the winemaking/blending than because of the label :P
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#814 Post by Frank Murray III » November 3rd, 2019, 3:36 pm

Damn, the 2009 Cristal is genius. And the Ruppert-Leroy was terrific too (and also 1/4 the price!).
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (11/3/2019)
    I love this stuff. Pulled on spur of the moment, filled six glasses and then enjoyed some small repours of it over about 45 mins. Orange marmalade, lime skin, green apple, flint/wet rock and perfect balance. Second bottle this year, both times a wow experience, and unless something can unseat this wine before December, this will be my Champagne of the year for 2019.
  • 2014 Ruppert-Leroy Champagne Pinot Noir Brut Nature Les Cognaux - France, Champagne (11/3/2019)
    2nd bottle this year. Same specs as previous: 2014 base, 100% Pinot Noir, zero dosage, farmed biodynamic. Grown in the Aube, in the deepest southern part of Champagne, with this fruit grown over Kimmeridgian soils, much like that of Chablis. Opened this yesterday, didn't seal it all that well overnight so there is a light CO2 imprint that remains but it's mostly still. This bottle is a more filled out than the last one. Aromatic of dried herb, white pepper, baked apple and flint. The core of this is also flinty, with green apple, black cherry, pear and citrusy grapefruit. It also reminds me of some of the Marguet wines. mixing the same citrus and berry notes. Overall, this is very good, with a fruit purity I enjoy.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#815 Post by Kris Patten » November 4th, 2019, 7:14 pm

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At Crown Shy - went young especially for me.

'88 Henriot Cuvee Enchanteleurs Mag
- I purchased this on release in Europe probably around 20 years ago. Paled in comparison to other mags I've opened. Still very good, but not what it should be or has been. Very Good Plus
Have 1 of these left. Will look to open before end of year.
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#816 Post by Mark Golodetz » November 4th, 2019, 7:32 pm

Louis Roederer brut nv
Recent release. Hit all the boxes for a solid entry level Champagne, but nothing special. Got a few of these; will treat it as a good weekday white.
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#817 Post by Frank Murray III » November 4th, 2019, 7:37 pm

  • 2012 Agrapart & Fils Champagne Grand Cru Minéral Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (11/4/2019)
    First of two. Disorged 09/2018, 100% Chardonnay with 5 g/l dosage. This started off rounder in texture, with not a lot of complexity. It also showed some apple sauce and light lime soda note. With air, it did seem to improve but overall this lacked the extra gear that I look for in Champagne, especially at the $90 US price.
  • 2015 Vouette et Sorbée Champagne Fidèle - France, Champagne (11/4/2019)
    Disgorged 09/2017, 100% Pinot Noir, zero dosage. Pounded rock aroma, with a creamy core of apple and raspberry with finishing citrus. This is built well, infused with good energy and is yet another fine example for me of the V et S style, which I continue to buy and enjoy.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#818 Post by Geoff F. » November 4th, 2019, 11:43 pm

NV Henriot Brut Souverain. Classic champagne with a prominent matchstick note in this batch. Reminded me of a Taittinger CdC. Had to pick up a couple more bottles.
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#819 Post by Steve Nordhoff » November 6th, 2019, 12:09 pm

A recent mix of lots of different styles:

1) 2004 Comte - super, tasting blanc de blanc with yellow fruit, plenty of acidity but just enough roundness. Perfect balance.

2) Larmandier Bernier (2006 according to the back label), served a bit warm to start, showed a touch of oxidation. A proper chill improved the wine. Also yellow fruited, a bit round and fatter than the Comte, not as complex but still good

3) 2006 Billecart, Cuvee Louis - also blanc de blanc, this is very much in the Billecart style of long lees aging (10 years +), very deep, broad and complex, but with the brightness of the Chardonnay, this was really good, but still crushed by:

4) 2007 Salon-Earlier in the day I was bitching about the 08 pricing strategy, so this snapped me back into place. Reminds me of the 96 (maybe not at that level, but close). Laser beam structure and acidity, with white fruit, killer acid and an impeccable balance all the way through a huge finish.
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#820 Post by Frank Murray III » November 6th, 2019, 6:19 pm

Nordhoff......nice set of notes, man.

Decided to open some Marie-Courtin tonight, one of my favorite Champagne producers. I wish, wish I would have found Champagne years ago, when I was pounding my body with 14-16% ABV wines. Drinking Champagne now is a pure joy these days and I'm loving this ride.
  • 2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Resonance Extra Brut - France, Champagne (11/6/2019)
    Disgorged 02/2018. 100% PN and no dosage. There are 2 disgorgements of this in circulation, as I've now tasted both over the past few bottles I have opened. Aromatics of red berries and crushed rocks. The texture here is lively, buffered by yellow and green apple, raspberry and ginger, then a lengthy finish of brisk, lively citrus of honeyed lime and a mineral note. The Marie-Courtin wines continue to reflect complexity, pure fruit, acidity and energy. Another rock solid bottle.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
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2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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#821 Post by Peter C. » November 7th, 2019, 7:35 am

NV Bollinger Special Cuvee w/ sweet n sour pork tenderloin last night. Really good pairing actually, the pork (from Whole Foods) is actually more salty than sweet or sour, so just as bubbly works great with popcorn or fried chicken, so too here.

I don't know if Bollinger has lowered the dosage at all in the past decade on their special cuvee, but the wine tasted drier to me. Maybe it was the food, but I tried the wine before eating and that's what stuck with me. Anyway it continues to be one of my favorite non-grower NV Champagnes.
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#822 Post by Jayson Cohen » November 10th, 2019, 5:07 pm

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#823 Post by Howard Cooper » November 11th, 2019, 5:17 am

Saturday night at a friend's birthday party I had a 2006 Taittinger Comte de Champagne and a NV Krug. Both excellent wines, I probably preferred the Taittinger.
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#824 Post by Mark Golodetz » November 11th, 2019, 6:19 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 5:17 am
Saturday night at a friend's birthday party I had a 2006 Taittinger Comte de Champagne and a NV Krug. Both excellent wines, I probably preferred the Taittinger.
Stylistically of course two very extreme Champagnes. I prefer the Taittinger style, in fact, I can’t think of a single circumstance where I would prefer the Krug.

The 2006 Taittinger is lovely now, and will be even better in five years. Great with tapas, and Chinese.
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#825 Post by Peter C. » November 11th, 2019, 6:44 am

Mark Golodetz wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 6:19 am
Howard Cooper wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 5:17 am
Saturday night at a friend's birthday party I had a 2006 Taittinger Comte de Champagne and a NV Krug. Both excellent wines, I probably preferred the Taittinger.
Stylistically of course two very extreme Champagnes. I prefer the Taittinger style, in fact, I can’t think of a single circumstance where I would prefer the Krug.

The 2006 Taittinger is lovely now, and will be even better in five years. Great with tapas, and Chinese.
Just drank the 2006 Taittinger Comtes last night and agree, in a great drinking window now but should continue to improve.
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#826 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 11th, 2019, 6:46 am

I much prefer the krug style, but the taittinger is nice for a hot day or for the right pairing. I just hate the bottles

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#827 Post by Merrill Lindquist » November 11th, 2019, 1:16 pm

This weekend my 2 top Champagnes were 2006 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvee and 2006 Billecart Salmon Nicolas Francois. Two outstanding 2006s.
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#828 Post by alan weinberg » November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm

anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?

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#829 Post by Kris Patten » November 11th, 2019, 8:15 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
I pulled a sample but between having a kid and a virus over last month I haven't opened it.

Will get it open ASAP.
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#830 Post by Yao C » November 11th, 2019, 10:05 pm

2008 Gimonnet Oenophile was drinking wonderfully over the weekend. Laser-like citrusy precision with a salty, refreshing palate that just keeps on going. A wotn contender vs some other tremendous wines
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anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
Bought a couple from Envoyer. Husband tried a bottle without me; he reports that he's a fan, and his palate is more accurate than mine. We both really love the Taittinger style fwiw
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#831 Post by Merrill Lindquist » November 12th, 2019, 8:15 am

alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
I have bought and consumed several. I find it very uneven. There are a couple of threads on this.
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#832 Post by Jay Miller » November 12th, 2019, 8:19 am

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:15 am
alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
I have bought and consumed several. I find it very uneven. There are a couple of threads on this.
I thought most of the uneven experiences were with the 06?
Ripe fruit isn't necessarily a flaw.

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#833 Post by A. So » November 12th, 2019, 8:21 am

alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
This may or may not be controversial but I like 07 CdC more than 06.
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#834 Post by Geoff F. » November 12th, 2019, 8:29 am

Picked up some NV Henriot Brut Souverain recently. This batch had a bit of matchstick on the nose, and in my head it's sort of like the answer to "what kind of champagne would Goodfellow or Walter Scott produce?"
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#835 Post by Yao C » November 12th, 2019, 8:33 am

A. So wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:21 am
alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
This may or may not be controversial but I like 07 CdC more than 06.
Interesting; what about it do you like more?
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#836 Post by A. So » November 12th, 2019, 8:48 am

Yao C wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:33 am
A. So wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:21 am
alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
This may or may not be controversial but I like 07 CdC more than 06.
Interesting; what about it do you like more?
Tastes more like chardonnay.
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#837 Post by Merrill Lindquist » November 12th, 2019, 9:03 am

Jay Miller wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:19 am
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 8:15 am
alan weinberg wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 7:49 pm
anyone buying or trying 07 Taittinger CdC? Thoughts?
I have bought and consumed several. I find it very uneven. There are a couple of threads on this.
I thought most of the uneven experiences were with the 06?
Check out some of the other threads re 2007 Comtes. I have found it uneven.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#838 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » November 13th, 2019, 5:30 am

Last night we opened and enjoyed our first bottle of NV De Sousa et Fils Champagne Grand Cru Cuvée des Caudalies Blanc de Blancs. This iteration was bottled in Oct 2014 and disgorged June 2017,5 g/L dosage.

We both liked this very much, finding it quite beautifully balanced both in terms of structural elements and styles, walking a nice line between depth/nutiness and fresh linearity. It was very easy to drink and food friendly. The finish was a bit tight, which leads me to think there's some near term upside. Overall, quite a pleasure and a good value. I haven't seen much commentary on De Sousa wines on this board, and am glad we happened upon them. I'm looking forward to trying the rose, having bought a few of that as well.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#839 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » November 13th, 2019, 11:10 am

Two extremes in the last few weeks.

1990 Bollinger Grande Année. Sublime. Excellent, persistent bead. Beautiful balance between the still lively fruit, brioche and caramel. Couldn't have asked for more from this bottle.

NV Pierre Moncuit Hughues de Coulmet BdB Brut. My go-to weekday sparkler. I like the balance between the citrus & orchard fruit and the yeast, it has a lovely mouth feel, and just the right dosage for my tastes.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#840 Post by Frank Murray III » November 13th, 2019, 4:59 pm

  • 2008 Godmé Père et Fils Chardonnay Champagne Premier Cru Extra Brut Les Alouettes Saint Bets - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (11/13/2019)
    Final bottle of two. Like the previous bottle, disgorged July 2017, 100% Chardonnay. Opened yesterday, finishing tonight the remaining glass. The lemon on this wine is the star. It flushes through the palate, joined by some wood notes, saline and green apple. As it warms up, the texture turns creamy, too. I opened this to test whether I wanted to bite on the local bottles for sale, and while I dig this wine, I can't suck up paying 120 US for it to include tax. At 60 US, maybe even 80, I'd do another 4 of these but a nearly 45% premium to reload these is not the right number.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#841 Post by Frank Murray III » November 15th, 2019, 7:23 pm

Nice discovery here, and their located in the Aube, too. Beautiful wine for $45.
  • 2013 Rémi Leroy Champagne Blanc de Blancs - France, Champagne (11/15/2019)
    Disgorged Oct 2018, 2 g/l, 100% Chard. Not sure how I let these sit in my cellar for nearly a year without trying it. Some brioche on the nose, with a lively, lemon driven core that flashes some apple, chalk (it's grown in the south, not far from Chablis with similar soil) and a creamy profile as it warms up. What grabs me about this wine is the energy and cut, the intensity. What a find. Delicious.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#842 Post by Frank Murray III » November 17th, 2019, 8:59 am

CHAMPAGNE EVENT - Wine Exchange in Santa Ana (11/17/2019)

$40 for about 20 wines. I limited my tasting to the French producers.
  • NV Dehours Champagne Brut Grand Reserve - France, Champagne
    For some reason my notes from yesterday said 2013. Disgorged 02/2018, 4.5 g/l dosage and a blend of 70 PM, 20 Chard, 10 PN. Some bitter citrus pith, saline and some astringence. There was some fruit in here, what I wrote down as light amounts of apple and strawberry but overall I didn't care for this wine.
  • NV Billecart-Salmon Champagne Brut Rosé - France, Champagne
    No back label info. Zesty, good acidity but came off just kind of burly to me, a bit rough. In my view, for what this costs, there are numerous other examples of really fine Rose out there.
  • 2012 Pierre Paillard Champagne Grand Cru Brut Blanc de Noirs Les Maillerettes - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Disgorged 05/2017, 100% PN with just under 2 g/l dosage. Good structure here with pear and zippy strawberry woven through it. Acidity is bright, some minerality too. This can use some time in the bottle of aeration.
  • NV Pehu Simonet Champagne Grand Cru Face Nord Brut - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Chewy and full of mineral. Smells like flowers and crushed rocks, tastes of apple. A delicious, mineral-driven wine.
  • NV Chartogne-Taillet Champagne Cuvée Sainte Anne - France, Champagne
    Disgorged 01/2019, with about 5 g/l dosage and a mix of Chard, PN and PM. This was one of the best wines of the tasting for me. Dried herb, green apple, leesy aromas, some chalk and strawberry. Fruit is nicely present with good structure, clean minerally finish. Terrific. I had bought a bunch of these on pre-release and glad I did.
  • 2013 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grand Cellier d'Or - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru
    My WOTD for the tasting. Green apple, some toast from the wood with a cool mineral note running through the palate and finish. Has the beautiful Vilmart acidity running through it, complementing the fruit, rendering an elegant balance that is excellent. Picked up a few more of these for the cellar, as this is a great vintage for GCdO.
  • 2007 Taittinger Champagne Comtes de Champagne Blanc de Blancs Brut - France, Champagne
    For what this costs, which I think was selling for $125 yesterday at the event, it's just not worth the money for me. The Vilmart GCd'O that was being poured, for me that wine blew away the Comtes. Smells toasty with apple, nectarine and some lemony citrus, with good length and light imprint of slate. I know plenty of people like this cuvee, but I'm just not all that wowed here.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#843 Post by Neal.Mollen » November 17th, 2019, 9:13 am

José Michel & Fils Champagne Brut Rosé. Not exceptionally complex, and not likely to make you forget the top rosés but a really lovely drink and a fantastic value. Just a smidge behind the Bara rose in quality and a few dollars cheaper.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#844 Post by Josh Grossman » November 18th, 2019, 6:38 am

  • NV (2014) Etienne Calsac Champagne Les Rocheforts Blanc de Blancs - France, Champagne (11/18/2019)
    Exactly what I look for in this type of BdB Champagne. With a low dosage of only 3 gL, this came across as stunningly sweet and decadent; probably the malolactic fermentation? That said, the nose was full of pears, jasmine, honey, and a bit of ginger--with no discernible malo tastes of butter or cream. Orange jasmine honey and hazelnuts envelop the mouth with just barely enough acid. Nice lingering finish. Can't wait to try the '15 and '16 iterations. Not sure how this will age; doubt I have the will to find out. Should have bought more. (93 pts.)

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#845 Post by Richard T r i m p i » November 18th, 2019, 6:52 am

NV Vincent Couche Elegance, 2 g/L dosage, 80% Pinot Noir, 5 years on the lees. The time on the lees adds a toasty complexity with cherry pit/skin notes...and hints of bright tart apple. Clean, agile and elegant in a youthfully alert way. Purchased this year and ready to go. I wouldn't hesitate to buy again at the $50-ish price point.

NV Laherte Freres, Les Longues Voyes 1er Cru, Blanc de Noirs
Stuck my nose in and got immediately whacked by a painful snort of sulfite. Somewhere in there is some legit Pinot fruit and a nice low level of dosage (3.5 g/L), but something went wrong between the vineyards of the Montagne de Reims and the restaurant in Pennsylvania. 2014 fruit. Hard to recover from the initial nasal abuse.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#846 Post by Howard Cooper » November 18th, 2019, 7:23 am

Thursday at my monthly Burg group tasting I had a Pol Roger Champagne (did not write down cuvee) that was very nice. We also had a 2012 Marguet Champagne Ambonnay Rosé that I thought had very nice, rich flavors but that needed more acidity. The star to me of the Champagnes that night was a 2008 Delamotte that was quite tasty - outstanding wine.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#847 Post by K John Joseph » November 18th, 2019, 7:56 am

Recent release Pierre Peters NV "Cuvee de Reserve" Blanc de Blancs. I really want to like Pierre Peters, but I just don't get the fuss. This is quite generic, albeit pleasant, with cream, toast, fresh bread, apple, some citrus, and chalk. It's not super complex, but it's not dull. It's not super smooth and classy, but it's not too rough hewn. It's just pretty okay all around. 90-91
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#848 Post by Richard T r i m p i » November 18th, 2019, 9:06 am

K John, I believe a lot of the attraction of the Pierre Peters Reserve was the value when it was selling for $35-ish. Now that it's up around $50-ish, the competition is considerably tougher.

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