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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#751 Post by K John Joseph » August 20th, 2019, 4:29 pm

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John, I spoke to Dr Jill and she has declined our idea to adopt. Sorry for that news.
Rats. I guess I'll have to buy my own damn champagne.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#752 Post by Frank Murray III » August 20th, 2019, 5:47 pm

John, look at the bright side here. You get to avoid drinking all the shrill, flavorless, low dosage garbage Champagne that I own. See, it all worked out.
My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#753 Post by EHeffner » August 22nd, 2019, 3:42 pm

Ployez Jacquemart extra quality brut - first time tasting this. Very nice! Tasty AF. Not overly complex but it doesn’t need to be. Perfect to have around in 375’s, which this was. Plan on buying more shortly!
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#754 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » August 22nd, 2019, 3:48 pm

'96 DP last night. Not quite at the level of the best '96's, but one of the more consistent as well as a really good Champagnes from the vintage.
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#755 Post by Frank Murray III » August 22nd, 2019, 5:46 pm

Another Dethune last night. Took the bottle to the grassy picnic area that sits to the north of the Montage Studio restaurant. Easy to drink this stuff, and this is bottle #30 that I have opened, or something close to it. I've bought more of this wine than any Champagne since I caught the bug and I continue to really enjoy the value of Dethune NV. While it was $35 when I first started buying it, now it's just around $41. Rock solid stuff.
  • NV Paul Dethune Champagne Brut Rosé - France, Champagne (8/21/2019)
    Man, I dig this Dethune Rose. I have bought so much of this wine, and the bottle we finished tonight was from the November 2015 disgorgement. This drinks with a good kick of acid, a blood orange kind of thing, supported by cherry and lime, with a dab of licorice. Good stuff and glad I have another 3 enroute as this was my last bottle on hand.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#756 Post by Frank Murray III » August 25th, 2019, 5:26 pm

I put these TNs in a separate thread, but in hommage to all things Champagne and my love for it, I am logging them here to help keep this thread going.

2019 SUNTACULAR--CHAMPAGNE TASTING TO RAISE MONEY FOR LAURA'S HOUSE - (8/25/2019)
  • 2012 Moussé Fils Champagne Terre d'illite Blanc de Noirs - France, Champagne
    Disgorged 02/17, 95% PM / 5% PN. 5 g/l dosage. Red berry, tangy, baked apple, good energy. I love the berry profile on this, and it's deceiving as the wine is clear.
  • NV Vouette et Sorbée Champagne Fidèle - France, Champagne
    Have to log this one as NV, as the back label stunk for any info. Seems like a different importer label or something? Cherry with some leaner tones. Chalky, slate. Went back to this later, and the aeration really helped to fill in the palate. Creamy cherry and the palate presence was terrific. Air this if you open.
  • NV Minière F & R Champagne Absolu Blanc De Blancs Brut - France, Champagne
    First of three that recently arrived from Europe. Disgorged 08/2018. Roughly 80% 2012 with the remainder 2011. 5.5 g/l dosage, 100% Chard. Floral. The wood shows through a bit on the palate, with a barrel/oak tone. The dosage on this wine always seems to give me a distinct richness, giving the green apple and lime a more generous quality. The finish on this bottle shows a good length, too. Revisited the wine later in the event, the lemon acidity really cranks up, as did some structure. Like with the Vouette ed Sorbee Fidele next to it, the aeration seemed elevate this wine.
  • 2012 Vazart-Coquart Champagne Grand Cru Grand Bouquet - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    4th bottle to date. Disgorged 12/2017. with 6 g/l dosage. Like with past bottles, this has a good core of green pippin apple, spicy/tangy, with some supporting chalk. The acidity in this bottle showed a good persistence, a brightness that I enjoyed.
  • 2012 Nathalie Falmet Champagne Tentation Rosée - France, Champagne
    Second of three bottles to date. Disgorged 06/2018, with 5 g/l dosage. This bottle showed even better than the previous one, exhibiting a steely, zesty quality, with citrus rind, blood orange and raspberry. Complexity and structure here that both complemented the wine well. Terrific showing, and with one left, need to source a few more.
  • NV Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Grande Réserve - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru
    Past bottles of this have not always been to my liking, but I will say that this bottle really nailed it for me. Disgorged 06/2018, 70% PN / 30% Chard. No idea on the dosage but I think around 8 g/l is the usual? Chalky, with a citrusy bright acid that energized it. Some faint wood (barrel toast) showing, with some mineral and a measured richness. Rock solid for entry level Vilmart this time.
  • NV Paul Bara Champagne Grand Cru Brut Réserve - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Second time I have had this wine (other was back in 2017) and I have to presume that these are different disgorgements; however, no way to tell as the back label stinks for info. And, no matter, as with in 2017 when I found the wine simple in tone, I have the same impression again. Smells matchsitcky/sulfury. Tastes one-dimensional, simple, with zesty lime. Did not care for this again.
  • NV Marc Hébrart Champagne Sélection Brut Premier Cru - France, Champagne
    No back label info. Spicy, with a good spine/structure but for me the wine is built too sweet for my liking. Finishes with lemon peel.
  • 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine - France, Champagne
    Disgorged 04/2016. This one struck me for the balance and overall pleasure that it provides. Floral aromatic, with a cool purity and evenness that makes it hard to put down. Finishes with a touch of honey, reminding me some of the Marguet wines. Terrific.
  • 2008 Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin Champagne Brut Rosé Vintage - France, Champagne
    Disgorged 11/2016. Strawberry, crisp and zesty with a chewy grip to it.
  • NV Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Cuvée Rubis - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru
    Getting close to a case of TNs for this wine. Disgorged 11/2017, with 90% PN / 10% Chard. Lime, strawberry with some moderate tension in the structure. Finishes with a good cut of citrus pith and chalky mineral.
  • NV Ruinart Champagne Brut Rosé - France, Champagne
    First time I have drank any of this wine. The bottle shape on these is horrible, and for some of us that had racked cellars, how the hell do you store this stuff? Also, no back label info so nothing to provide. Creamy red fruit, bright and chalky, with licorice, raspberry.
  • NV Henri Giraud Champagne Grand Cru Hommage A François Hemart Brut - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    This had a candied quality for me, with pear and ginger. Interesting wine, got me to think but not sure what to make of it.
  • NV Camille Savès Champagne Grand Cru Brut Rosé Bouzy - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    I have drank a lot of this wine, and it's consistently made well. Like with past bottles, this is peach colored, with a strawberry core, raspberry and stone fruit. Zesty, built well as usual, solid again.
  • 2013 Pierre Paillard Champagne Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs Acte 1 "Les Motelettes" - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Had to add this to the database, so I wonder if these are bottles that are just making it now to the US for 2013. Disgorged 04/2018, with just under 2 g/l dosage. Pure green apple, slate, honeyed edges, zesty with good length and intensity. Good showing.
  • 2010 Champagne Suenen Champagne Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs Millésimé - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Disgorged 12/2017, with 3 g/l dosage, 100% Chard. Leesy, yeasty, crunchy, with lemon and apple, along with dried herb. This showed a little rough to me, needing some better balance.
  • 2013 Chartogne-Taillet Champagne Chemin de Reims - France, Champagne
    Had a bottle of this just a few weeks ago. Disgorged 06/2018, 5 g/l dosage. I like it. Zesty, almond, green apple, saline with a good cut of citrus and a long finish. Showed well again.
  • NV Gruet Winery Brut Rosé - USA, New Mexico
    Toasty, creamy, with some sweetness. Brief impression I realize here, but the wine didn't really speak much to me.
  • 2008 Remy Massin Champagne Brut Millésimé - France, Champagne
    40% PN, 60% Chard--this is all the label data I could gather. The acidity on this wine is electric, with a lemony briskness that is hard to miss. Intense, chalky, a powerful wine. One of my top wines of the event.
  • 2008 Lilbert-Fils Champagne Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs Brut Cramant - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Disgorged Summer 2014, with 7 g/l dosage. Honey, cinnamon, green apple and the dosage here was too high for me, rendering that 7-Up soda kind of quality that turns me off.
  • 2008 Godmé Père et Fils Chardonnay Champagne Premier Cru Extra Brut Les Alouettes Saint Bets - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru
    Disgorged 07/2017, 100% Chard. Not sure of the dosage on this. I bought a couple of these back in 2017, held onto them since that time. On a whim, we pulled this last night, and damn did this show excellent. Bright, intense citrus, with lively flavors yet in terrific balance. Stony, with some wood aromas. I went to look for more of this today and it's $106 US nearby my home, but that's nearly $45 more than I paid for these. So, do I spend to spend $120 US with tax to go replentish these? Gotta think on that one but have to say this was one of the best bottles of the day for me.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#757 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » August 28th, 2019, 9:43 am

Back in 2003 when the Concorde was grounded, British Airways reneged on their remaining special order bottles of 1985 Krug. I bought a fair amount of cases of it shortly thereafter and have enjoyed them for about the 15 past years, This was my last bottle. Disgorged about halfway between the original release and the Collection, these bottles were at their peak about five years ago. Imo, Krug didn't perform that well in 1985, and for me, this is by far the best disgorgement. Original '85's matured very rapidly, and i've never been a fan of the Collection. Pushing the limit of oxidative notes for me, even for a Krug, but enough classic Krug fruit and flavors to still make it enjoyable. Much better with food especially a dish recently added to Marea's menu - Granchio Reale - Norwegian king crab, hackelback caviar, potato pavé, melted leeks.
Krug Excellent, Crab Staggering minus.

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#758 Post by Steve Nordhoff » August 28th, 2019, 11:02 am

Cool story Ray, thanks for sharing.
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#759 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » August 29th, 2019, 6:10 pm

Krug 166, drinking remarkably well atm

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#760 Post by Frank Murray III » August 30th, 2019, 7:06 pm

  • 2015 Benoit Dehu Champagne Initiation - France, Champagne (8/30/2019)
    Disgorged 02/2018, blend of PN and PM. Zero dosage. The PM comes from the Noyers plot, and the PN is massale selection that is planted to a Pommard selection from Burgundy. Farmed organic. Creamy, intense berry fruit. The finish has a bitter lime pith quality, along with a briny note that mixes in some mineral, too. Between the fruit intensity mixing with some the edgier structure, this creates a clean, precise experience. FWIW, second bottle in the past few weeks, with this one showing the best, and likely better too because it's just me with the glass, getting a complete read of the wine.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#761 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » August 31st, 2019, 10:49 am

Opened our first bottle of NV Eric Rodez Champagne Grand Cru Cuvée des Grands Vintages, from a lot disgorged in May 2016. While the nose was quite impressive, we found it a bit disjointed, with coarse bubbles. Still drinkable, but not nearly what I was expecting with the producer and cru. No signs of any flaws, not even flattened fruit from tiny amount of cork. No, it was a perfectly clean, undamaged bottle, it just didn't show well. Maybe more time?

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#762 Post by Kris Patten » August 31st, 2019, 10:54 am

Any opinions on Vollereaux?

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#763 Post by Frank Murray III » September 2nd, 2019, 8:01 am

  • NV Mouzon-Leroux & Fils Champagne Extra Brut Cuvée L'Atavique - France, Champagne (9/2/2019)
    Last bottle was 2 years ago, and the specs on the wine back label are much different. This is a great example as to why back label info matters, as well as why I appreciate tasters who take the time to tell me that info from their bottle. It adds some comparative value to the NV space and thinking. As to my bottle yesterday, disgorged 01/2018, with 2 g/l dosage, 70% PN, 30% Chard, with 75% from 2014 vintage, and the remaining 25% a mix of 2012 and 2013. This bottle was built nicely, balanced with some red fruit, some apple, tangy and brushed on the finish with some mineral and a kiss of honeyed sweetness.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#764 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » September 2nd, 2019, 8:25 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 10:49 am
Opened our first bottle of NV Eric Rodez Champagne Grand Cru Cuvée des Grands Vintages, from a lot disgorged in May 2016. While the nose was quite impressive, we found it a bit disjointed, with coarse bubbles. Still drinkable, but not nearly what I was expecting with the producer and cru. No signs of any flaws, not even flattened fruit from tiny amount of cork. No, it was a perfectly clean, undamaged bottle, it just didn't show well. Maybe more time?
Bought a few of each of his cuvees a couple of years ago. Besides his Rose, none of his other Champagnes impressed me. As you said, no flaws, but uninspiring.
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#765 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » September 2nd, 2019, 8:33 am

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
September 2nd, 2019, 8:25 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 10:49 am
Opened our first bottle of NV Eric Rodez Champagne Grand Cru Cuvée des Grands Vintages, from a lot disgorged in May 2016. While the nose was quite impressive, we found it a bit disjointed, with coarse bubbles. Still drinkable, but not nearly what I was expecting with the producer and cru. No signs of any flaws, not even flattened fruit from tiny amount of cork. No, it was a perfectly clean, undamaged bottle, it just didn't show well. Maybe more time?
Bought a few of each of his cuvees a couple of years ago. Besides his Rose, none of his other Champagnes impressed me. As you said, no flaws, but uninspiring.
Thanks Ray. That's helpful to know. We did the same - grabbed a few of this, the rose and the blancs de noir when they came along at great prices. Haven't tried the rose yet.

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#766 Post by chetkern » September 2nd, 2019, 9:14 am

Sarah-

Vintage Rodez Empreinte de Terroir GC Chardonnay and Ambonnay Pinot Noir are extremely impressive bottles needing lots more time to mature. 2008 Les Beurys which has an interesting story is a fabulous drink! I’ve never tasted any non vintage bottling, but I’m a big fan of his wine making!

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#767 Post by Jay Miller » September 2nd, 2019, 10:58 am

Whenever I've tasted Rodez at La Fete du Champagne I've walked away unimpressed.
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#768 Post by EHeffner » September 2nd, 2019, 2:55 pm

Deutz brut classic and Billecart salmon brut rose, both out of halfs. Both lovely. Got a whole lotta lemon on the Deutz. Pleasant wines to wait out Dorian
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#769 Post by William Kelley » September 2nd, 2019, 6:07 pm

Michel Fallon Ozanne dg. May 2014. Vinous, concentrated and very Selosse-like, with a long and sapid finish. Still fresh and lively after five years on cork.
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#770 Post by Brad Baker » September 2nd, 2019, 6:21 pm

I've had really, really good wines from Rodez, some flawed/weird wines from Rodez, and a number of boring bottles too. Overall, I've found that from year to year and cuvee to cuvee, the wines are inconsistent. When you get a good one though, they are really nice stuff.
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#771 Post by Frank Murray III » September 3rd, 2019, 5:44 pm

First of two bottles that I bought during the HDH 2018 holiday sale. The Marguet pricing was sharp and so I picked up a mixed case to add to my Marguet inventory. These were $45 each, and it's delicious. I just hope to see them do the sale again in a few months.
  • 2013 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Shaman 13 Extra Brut Rose - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (9/3/2019)
    Hard to understand why I am the only user in CT with the 2013 Shaman Rose? Huh. There were 2 bottles, now there is one. Opened last night for my wife's birthday dinner. Roughly 70% Chard, 30% PN. Disgorged 01/2017, zero dosage. This exhibits a orange/peach color, cool to look at in the glass. On the aromatic, it has what I often find in Benoit's wines, which is a dried herb note. This showed brisk last night, on the razor's edge of austere. Decided to bring the remnants home from dinner and maintain the bubbles as best as possible. It remains firm and focused tonight, with a brisk core of crisp green apple, along with strawberry and watermelon, finishing with a beam of tingly acidity and mineral. Delicious.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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#772 Post by Howard Cooper » September 5th, 2019, 4:19 am

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Hard to understand why I am the only user in CT with the 2013 Shaman Rose? Huh.
Because I bought some when I saw an offer for 2014 and did not see one (or pay attention to it or whatever for the 13)??? [scratch.gif]
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#773 Post by Scott Watkins » September 5th, 2019, 7:32 pm

Michel Arnould & Fils Champagne Grand Cru Extra Brut my brother in law left a bottle at our house the other night. It is a K&L direct import? A little astringent on the pop and pour but after an hour of air this is pretty nice! under 3 grams dosage and BRIGHT acidity.
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#774 Post by K John Joseph » September 6th, 2019, 8:25 am

2006 Dom Perignon I always forget Dom even made a 2006 (and 2003) given what I consider the nice successes of 2002, 2004, and the great 2009. This, though, is really very good and a classic Dom. Beautiful notes of pear, lemon, white peach, and flowers, with good acidity but that classic creamy Dom mousse. Lovely stuff. 94

NV Paul Bara Rose Grand Cru This has a nice offering of orange peel, nectarine, and strawberry with some spice to it. A richer champagne, but also a bit less suave and rough around the edges than the Dom. It is quite enjoyable, though. 91

NV Ayala Brut Majeur Always glad to see this in the AA Admirals Club, which has set of by the glass options that put to shame most restaurants. I always think of this as very poor man's Dom. Similar pear driven palate, lemon curd, with nice florals. Just a hair sweet (though 7g dosage) and not as complex. Even so, a lovely way to cap off a business trip. 89-90

Couple of side notes: Ayala is on occasion my house champagne. When Wine.com has a "save $100 on $300 purchase" I'll go and by a case or so and the price per bottle gets down to "very good QPR". I'm out at home, but might have to go back to the well.

Rose Champagne: After five years of focused attention on champagne, I am forced to acknowledge that rose champagne is not my preferred style of champagne. It is a rare instance where I think that the rose is superior to the traditional, and I am more than happy NOT to pay the additional tariff for rose champagne. With that said I have not have older rose champagnes, and so will reserve final judgment there. This is not really about the Paul Bara, which was a nice wine, and I have had some excellent rose champagnes over the last few months. I just don't think it's where I will be allocating resources.
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#775 Post by EHeffner » September 6th, 2019, 6:23 pm

Laherte Freres BdB brut nature - disgorged 10/18. TN = Tasty AF. Lovely. Would buy again for sub-$50. Bought locally in Fla
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#776 Post by AD Northup » September 6th, 2019, 6:51 pm

EHeffner wrote:
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Laherte Freres BdB brut nature - disgorged 10/18. TN = Tasty AF. Lovely. Would buy again for sub-$50. Bought locally in Fla
Picked up a handful of these for right around $50 in Flemington, NJ. Delicious stuff.
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#777 Post by Subu Ramachandran » September 13th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Bereche Les Beaux Regards. First time trying this champagne. 100% chardonnay from Ludes. Ripe golden color, yellow fruits on the nose. Harmony, grace, precision and energy. Incredible wine!

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#778 Post by ChristopherSK » September 14th, 2019, 10:38 am

Bollinger isn't that Special Cuvee. I do think it is something special!

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#779 Post by Frank Murray III » September 15th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Was able to get 3 bottles of the 2012 vintage open yesterday afternoon in what was a hot evening in the OC. Wrapping up the Mouzon-Leroux tonight.
  • 2012 Francis Boulard Champagne Rosé de Saignée Extra Brut - France, Champagne (9/15/2019)
    Second of two I have opened this year. Disgorged 08/2018, 60% PN, 40% PM. 3 g/l dosage. Color is a mix of pink and salmon, a lightish orange. The red fruits are delicious here, a blend of strawberry and watermelon. The balance here is dialed in, so the wine translates with an evenness, yet has some good spine and some bread dough in the finish to add some additional complexity. I enjoyed both bottles and will re-buy again when I see it offered.
  • 2012 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Avize & Cramant Extra Brut - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (9/15/2019)
    4th bottle to date, and this is the best yet. Disgorged 09/2017, with no dosage and 100% Chard. Has a dried green herb note on the aromatic, a quality I have noticed in other Marguet bottlings. Lemon, pear, crushed rock and then when it warms there is a richness that settles in, allowing some yellow apple and lemon to mix well, adding some saline. I have one bottle left of this 2012 cuvee and I will let it age now, as it would seem that the wine is coming together finally.
  • 2012 Mouzon-Leroux & Fils Champagne Blanc de Noirs Extra Brut Cuvée L'Ineffable - France, Champagne (9/15/2019)
    Wow, first TN. OK. Disgorged 10/2017, no dosage, 100% PN, done in 55% wood. Black cherry and pure raspberry tone, along with lime zest. It starts out a little rough, too, kind of prickly and grippy. As it warms, it settles down, smooths out some more and the raspberry and citrus really come through...revisited the bottle tonight, with some residual bubbles still hanging on, too. Pretty much the same as yesterday. The saline/mineral core is probably most prominent, giving it a refreshing, savory quality. The fruit is competing with the structure, a dark kind of raspberry. This will need more time to settle down and so I'll leave the remaining bottle alone for some time.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#780 Post by derekrusalen » September 18th, 2019, 6:03 am

Carbon Champagne blanc de blancs millesimè 2012
a full surprise!! I've already tasted few months ago and now I've purchased few bottles brut, bdb 2012
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#781 Post by Eric Sch » September 18th, 2019, 2:55 pm

Brad Baker wrote:
September 2nd, 2019, 6:21 pm
I've had really, really good wines from Rodez, some flawed/weird wines from Rodez, and a number of boring bottles too. Overall, I've found that from year to year and cuvee to cuvee, the wines are inconsistent. When you get a good one though, they are really nice stuff.
Totally agree. I've had a couple great ones ut the last few have been very underwhelming, including a Cuvée de crayeres that I hauled all the way to Maui. Just got a new release offer and was tempted but the QPR isn't there.

Had a Bourdaire Gallois Brut the other night, a bit basic but it rounded out after a few hours open. Going to stash a couple to see how they age. Hard to beat $25 wholesale Meunier! Wish I could get Mignon that cheap but it has been trickling up the last few years.
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#782 Post by Steve Nordhoff » September 20th, 2019, 7:08 am

2012 Pierre Peters Chetillons - super bright with pure yellow fruit and laser acidity. Very long, should age beautifully. Textbook Chetillons, really excellent.
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#783 Post by K John Joseph » September 26th, 2019, 2:30 pm

NV Billecart Salmon Sous Bois The most recent release. This is my first rodeo with this wine. It has a fairly crisp entry with lemon, chalk, saltine, marzipan, and then a big spicy note. The oak presence here is real, and that undercurrent of oak spice lingered. It was not a bad thing, but it is not really to my preference. It reminded me, quite softly, of that lingering heat in a jalapeno margarita, but not actually a capsaicin burn. Overall okay. 90 If I had a do over, but could keep the experience and check it off my list, I'd take my money and try something else. Not sure there is QPR here given the entry fee for what I found to be a mildly interesting, well made, but not to my preference wine. Looking forward to a Billecart Salmon Rose on Saturday evening. I understand that this wine has materially improved.

Fun note on Billecart Salmon from our forum's very own William Kelley, writing for Robert Parker Wine Advocate:
Billecart-Salmon is discreetly but significantly evolving. Since 2010, a new cellar has housed some 400 barrels for vinification and élevage, and since 2018, another cellar is home to oak foudres retaining some 80,000 liters of reserve wine. Meanwhile, Billecart's wines are spending longer and longer sur lattes, and fruit sourcing is changing—with more grand cru fruit replacing premier cru fruit—while volumes remain the same. Based on the trials underway in their emblematic Clos Saint-Hilaire, the next frontier will be the vineyards. This visit and tasting with Mathieu Roland-Billecart and chef des caves Florent Nys underscored the impact of these quiet but important changes, and it's clear that this is a house that's going from strength to strength. I'll be reporting on Billecart-Salmon in greater depth in the future, but for now, all these recent releases come warmly recommended.
Fun notes and article on his tasting through Champagne was just released on the site and is worth the read.

On a related note, 2002 Billecart Salmon Nicky Francis is readily available at any number of retail shops in Dallas for under $200. If you are considering spending Dom money on a bottle, I strongly suggest grabbing one. Really, really good wine in a great spot.
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#784 Post by Frank Murray III » September 28th, 2019, 4:56 pm

  • 2012 Franck Bonville Champagne Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs Brut "Pur Mesnil" - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (9/28/2019)
    First of two. Disgorged 04/2018, 2 g/l, made from 3 parcels in Mesnil. 100% Chard. This is good, centered around green apple, some lime, nuts, showing wood tones (something toasty) and oxidative in tone, too. Finishes a little steely, a note called by Brig, which is dead on. Good.
  • NV Minière F & R Champagne Absolu Blanc De Blancs Brut - France, Champagne (9/27/2019)
    Second bottle of three. 80% 2012 with the remainder 2011. 5.5 g/l dosage, 100% Chard. I really dig this stuff, as it shows a mix of richness, wood tones and plenty of lemon and green apple. Even some stone fruits popping through in this bottle, too. Excellent.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#785 Post by Warren Taranow » October 5th, 2019, 11:18 am

2012 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Extra Brut Les Bermonts

I liked this more than FM3; a lot more. Marguet is new producer for me, having bought a few '12s and '14s across the range of vineyards. This was more intense than elegant, but a uniquely delicious BdB. I wouldn't have guessed zero dosage had I not known. There was a unique herbal/floral quality I loved, and it showed immediately on the attack, all the way through the long finish. It paired well with the entire meal, from raw oysters to seafood stew, and even through dessert. Marybeth mentioned it paired better with the pets de nonne and ice cream than the '08 Rieussec.
I'm looking forward to trying the Crayéres, Avize & Cramant, and Le Parc, all of which I've placed on my cellar endangered list

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#786 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » October 5th, 2019, 4:06 pm

House champagne, R&L Legras BdB (‘12 base) which was phenomenal with pork chops, apples and onions)

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#787 Post by Joshua Kates » October 5th, 2019, 4:23 pm

Just popped 1 of 3 of the 2007 Taittinger Comte that I grabbed on close-out at my local wine store. Not a wow wine, imho, but a lovely drink nevertheless: some toast on the nose, creamy on the mid-palate, and interesting mineral finish. Went well with the caviar Charlie F is middling, and nice with seared salmon. I myself might drink these now, but I don't see much harm in waiting.

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#788 Post by Frank Murray III » October 5th, 2019, 5:24 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
October 5th, 2019, 11:18 am
2012 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Extra Brut Les Bermonts

I liked this more than FM3; a lot more. Marguet is new producer for me, having bought a few '12s and '14s across the range of vineyards. This was more intense than elegant, but a uniquely delicious BdB. I wouldn't have guessed zero dosage had I not known. There was a unique herbal/floral quality I loved, and it showed immediately on the attack, all the way through the long finish. It paired well with the entire meal, from raw oysters to seafood stew, and even through dessert. Marybeth mentioned it paired better with the pets de nonne and ice cream than the '08 Rieussec.
I'm looking forward to trying the Crayéres, Avize & Cramant, and Le Parc, all of which I've placed on my cellar endangered list

Cheers,
Warren
WST, yes you did like your bottle more than me. I've had the 2012 Bermonts 3X now and the most recent (posted below) just left me a bit disappointed. I did decide to give the 2014 another go, and bought a few so we'll see. Grand Ruelle and Crayeres, for sure, these are what thrill me about Marguet. Still have yet to taste Le Parc and St Remys, both I am waiting on to arrive soon.
  • 2012 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Extra Brut Les Bermonts - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (8/20/2019)
    Disgorged Sept 2017, no dosage and this bottle's back label indicated some sulfur was used. I pulled this because I wanted to give this a closer look. Admittedly, I have been a big vocal fan of the Marguet wines and continue to be, although I have to say this Les Bermonts didn't light me up as say Crayeres or Grand Ruelle have (which in fairness I suppose is that these are both primarily PN cuvees). Lemon peel and lees aromas, along with a dried herb. Spicy apple sauce, light tonic water, lime zest, ginger and a spicy honey finish. Retasted the following day, with some remaining CO2 that hung on. The wood shows on the wine when it is still, adding an element that doesn't fit for me. Ultimately, the wine doesn't have the class and polish for me that the other Marguet wines show. I did buy the 2014 so we'll have to see if that rings better for me when they arrive. And, I will drink my final 2012 of this wine in a blind lineup when the time is right, to see how it fares with others.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#789 Post by Kris Patten » October 6th, 2019, 9:52 am

Stopped in to Taylor Shellfish in Pioneer Square for oysters and found Robert Moncuit Grand Cru Blanc de Blanc 2012 for under $100.

Lacking a little precision, but went well with an assortment of oysters, especially the brinier side.
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#790 Post by Jayson Cohen » October 6th, 2019, 10:04 am

Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 9:52 am
Stopped in to Taylor Shellfish in Pioneer Square for oysters and found Moncuit Grand Cru Blanc de Blanc 2012 for under $100.

Lacking a little precision, but went well with an assortment of oysters, especially the brinier side.
Which Moncuit? I’ve been liking cousin Robert better than Pierre lately.

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#791 Post by Kris Patten » October 6th, 2019, 10:10 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 10:04 am
Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 9:52 am
Stopped in to Taylor Shellfish in Pioneer Square for oysters and found Moncuit Grand Cru Blanc de Blanc 2012 for under $100.

Lacking a little precision, but went well with an assortment of oysters, especially the brinier side.
Which Moncuit? I’ve been liking cousin Robert better than Pierre lately.
Sorry, Robert.
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#792 Post by Yao C » October 6th, 2019, 8:33 pm

NV Georges Laval Garennes

2016 base disgorged 7/11/2018; 90% meunier; 1g/l; 11.5% alcohol

Complexly mineral on the nose; oxidative bruised apple notes create a sense of breadth and richness atop which the linear, incisive flavors of fresh green apple and a squeeze of lime can perch; serious but not overly austere, and surprisingly more-ish; I should get more; good plus
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#793 Post by K John Joseph » October 14th, 2019, 2:30 pm

2009 Louis Roederer Cristal - Oh man, this is soooo good. White peach, granny smith, lemon, shortbread, spice, hazelnut with nice cut, fine mousse, and a hint of minerality. Amazingly complex and so smooth. Exceptional stuff. 96

Piper Heidsieck NV -- A nice, rich bottling I suspect has a rather generous dosage. Research confirms 10 g/l. Fuji apple, bartlett pear, honeysuckle, almond cake. Not nearly as fine or complex as the Cristal, but still a nice champagne on the non-brut nature spectrum of brut champagnes. 91

Taittinger Brut La Francaise NV -- This is more on the citrus and ginger profile than the Heidsick with some nuts and toast. Good crisp lemony notes and a lifted nose here with a spicy bit of ginger melding well with the toasty note. 9 g/l? Pretty good stuff here too. 91
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#794 Post by Frank Murray III » October 15th, 2019, 6:34 pm

JJK, so you liked the 09 Cristal? Man, so do I. Gonna get another one open before the end of the year, for sure. Love that stuff.
My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

My best wines of 2018:
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2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#795 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 15th, 2019, 7:22 pm

Had the 2009 Deutz Amour de Deutz Blanc de Blancs on the plane yesterday and, even at altitude, it was pretty darn good, very nicely balanced. Not run-out-and-buy-more good, but eyebrow raising good for sure, given its youth. Happiness in the mouth.

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#796 Post by Kris Patten » October 15th, 2019, 7:37 pm

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JJK, so you liked the 09 Cristal? Man, so do I. Gonna get another one open before the end of the year, for sure. Love that stuff.
Went to an industry event and 2009 Cristal was the reception wine with caviar....all you could get for 90 minutes and opened about 25 cases of Cristal. Needless to say I tried my best to help depletions, so did the rest of us, and while 99% of us don't sell Cristal, no one ever turned away another glass.

Unreal wine.
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#797 Post by Al Osterheld » October 15th, 2019, 7:56 pm

Yeah, have to take advantage of those generous opportunities when they arise. Ken Zinns and I attended a Chalone appellation tasting hosted at Brosseau about 10 years ago. There was a food table hosted by a restaurant in Carmel that served an entire lobe of foie gras. I think I had my share.

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#798 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » October 15th, 2019, 8:10 pm

At Crown Shy - went young especially for me.

'88 Henriot Cuvee Enchanteleurs Mag
- I purchased this on release in Europe probably around 20 years ago. Paled in comparison to other mags I've opened. Still very good, but not what it should be or has been. Very Good Plus

'09 Cristal - A bit sweeter and more candied than other bottles but with enough acidity to keep it balanced. Excellent

'08 Cristal - Opened several hours prior to serving. A wealth of fruit. Will improve. Staggering Minus

'08 Cristal Rose - No doubt this wine sells for much more than the Brut due to significantly less production. Deeper color than most other vintages. Already soft and easy to drink. Excellent.

Also drank a number of White and Red Burgs and a couple of Red Bordeaux. Food, Service and Stemware were all outstanding, especially the Wine Service.
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#799 Post by K John Joseph » October 16th, 2019, 11:52 am

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October 15th, 2019, 6:34 pm
JJK, so you liked the 09 Cristal? Man, so do I. Gonna get another one open before the end of the year, for sure. Love that stuff.
Yes. I really do like it. I also like that Vin Volo in various large airports carries it by the glass without a terrible markup. It's a will-breaker for me. I don't really want to spend big dollars on a glass of champagne...but then it's just so good and it's there and it's a fresh bottle they're opening and I don't get to be home and all of the sudden the glass is in front of me and it delivers every. single. time.
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#800 Post by K John Joseph » October 16th, 2019, 11:54 am

Kris Patten wrote:
October 15th, 2019, 7:37 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
October 15th, 2019, 6:34 pm
JJK, so you liked the 09 Cristal? Man, so do I. Gonna get another one open before the end of the year, for sure. Love that stuff.
Went to an industry event and 2009 Cristal was the reception wine with caviar....all you could get for 90 minutes and opened about 25 cases of Cristal. Needless to say I tried my best to help depletions, so did the rest of us, and while 99% of us don't sell Cristal, no one ever turned away another glass.

Unreal wine.
I will readily admit that I'd probably get a bit drunk if it was 90 minutes of all you can drink 09 Cristal.
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