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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#601 Post by Neal.Mollen » May 8th, 2019, 5:06 am

Brad Baker wrote:
April 23rd, 2019, 6:54 pm
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damn, this 2009 is excellent.
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
    Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.
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Great post and it shows what you can do when you own your own vineyards and follow good, clean, sustainable farming practices (along with clean, pure winemaking). Size doesn't matter, owning your own land and doing your own farming in a proper way does. Most of the more well known negociants (Moet, Veuve, Bollinger, Taittinger, Charles Heidsieck, Krug, etc...) actually do this with their own vineyards, but when you have to purchase 50-70% of your grape supply, things get more complicated and fall apart. Roederer shows what is possible when you are 'big' and control your own destiny.
I have already sung the praises of the 2009. Outstanding, inspiring wine. The kind of wine that stops conversation.

Given the price difference I see no reason to buy the 08; the 09 is so superlative.

On a completely different level, we had the Gosset Champagne Brut Grande Réserve out of 375 the other night. Not a great champagne but a good one, and it is so darn cute in what looks like a beer bottle.

I have always been reluctant to buy champagne in 375s because I have heard tell that it suffers from the format but I have to say that based on recent experience I get plenty of pleasure from them and will be looking for more.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#602 Post by Vince T » May 8th, 2019, 5:50 am

Not a Champagne per se, but I had a really interesting bubbly from England this past weekened. Definitely worth trying if you're looking for something off the beaten path. I only gave it an 89, but I keep thinking about it so perhaps it merits an upgrade:
  • NV Ridgeview Fitzrovia Rosé - United Kingdom, England, Sussex, West Sussex (5/4/2019)
    Intensely savory and chalky rose bubbly. Mouthwateringly savory - almost the sensation of being salty. Fine mousse, medium yeasty, with delicate pink (watermelon, strawberry) fruit. Not much fruit at all, if that’s your jam. A bit of a clipped finish, with lots of saline-iodine. Went superbly with sushi. (89 pts.)
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#603 Post by ky1em!ttskus » May 8th, 2019, 8:24 am

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On a completely different level, we had the Gosset Champagne Brut Grande Réserve out of 375 the other night. Not a great champagne but a good one, and it is so darn cute in what looks like a beer bottle.
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#604 Post by alan weinberg » May 8th, 2019, 6:58 pm

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Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?
2 bottles made me find more. 2000 vintage. No notes but loved it. As for B-S rosé, I age it 5 years and then drink. Gains a lot.
How do you age your B-S? 5 years from purchase? As far as I’m aware, they don’t offer disgorgement info
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#605 Post by Warren Taranow » May 9th, 2019, 9:43 pm

NV Krug Champagne Brut Grande Cuvée Edition 164eme
A nice foil to the boisterous '06 Taittinger Comte. While explosive, young, and delicious, the harmony and balance are the most attractive features.

2006 Taittinger Champagne Brut Blanc de Blancs Comtes de Champagne
As rambunctious as ever. Lemon curd and orange peel, brioche and cream. Stunningly textured. I thought it would pale following the Krug 164 eme. However, it held its ground with a distinctive character and a powerful presence.

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#606 Post by Eric Sch » May 10th, 2019, 9:08 am

Flying to Michigan today with a bottle of Vilmart Cuvee Rubis to share with my Mom. After 45 years they are selling the house I grew up in, and purchasing a condo less than half the size. Mom has done amazing work on the business side to get the house sold, and also to simplify their life by selling decades of collected stuff. I know it was hard and I'm super proud of her, so we'll drink some good bubbs to celebrate.

And then she can put me to work moving boxes and changing out lock sets, etc. champagne.gif
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#607 Post by Warren Taranow » May 10th, 2019, 9:13 pm

2008 Pierre Gimonnet & Fils Champagne Premier Cru Extra Brut Oenophile
Crisp. Green apple and citrus. Better with air, and with food. Good price, nothing wrong here, but I personally won't buy this again. A wine that makes me to strike the "Neutral" like button on CT, although I seem to be in an unimpressed minority.
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#608 Post by Frank Murray III » May 11th, 2019, 7:35 pm

  • 2008 Minière F & R Champagne Absolu Blanc De Blancs Brut - France, Champagne (5/11/2019)
    The bottle tonight was not served blind. It was terrific. The lemon was bright and the texture was delicious with good energy. Way better than the bottle last October, and now thinking about I could have locked in some of this around that time, too. Really drinking good at this stage.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#609 Post by Warren Taranow » May 14th, 2019, 9:56 pm

2004 Camille Savés Grand Cru Cuvée Anaïs Jolicoeur. This is in a very good place right now. Creamy red fruit, early mature notes. This turned out to be a superb impulsive auction purchase.
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#610 Post by Mike Hawkins » May 16th, 2019, 12:52 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
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2004 Camille Savés Grand Cru Cuvée Anaïs Jolicoeur. This is in a very good place right now. Creamy red fruit, early mature notes. This turned out to be a superb impulsive auction purchase.
I bought a case from the winery at release. Sounds like it’s time to try one

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#611 Post by Scott Watkins » May 16th, 2019, 8:07 pm

2013 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Bouzy with fried chicken and some watermelon. 77% Pinot noir 23% Chardonnay disgorged May 2018. Never been a big fan of zero dosage but this wine is just fantastic.
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#612 Post by Frank Murray III » May 17th, 2019, 7:21 am

Scott Watkins wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 8:07 pm
2013 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Bouzy with fried chicken and some watermelon. 77% Pinot noir 23% Chardonnay disgorged May 2018. Never been a big fan of zero dosage but this wine is just fantastic.
Atta boy, Scott. I have the 13 Marguet Shaman in the queue now, too. I bought those for $34 each from HDH last XMAS when they had their sale. I felt like I was stealing those.

Jill's biz partner is having his annual Champagne event tomorrow at his house. I think 10 bottles open so I'll have some notes to bring back here. champagne.gif
My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#613 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am

Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)

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#614 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
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#615 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.

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#616 Post by Merrill Lindquist » May 17th, 2019, 10:08 am

Brad Baker wrote:
April 23rd, 2019, 6:54 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
April 22nd, 2019, 8:43 pm
damn, this 2009 is excellent.
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
    Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.
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Frank,

Great post and it shows what you can do when you own your own vineyards and follow good, clean, sustainable farming practices (along with clean, pure winemaking). Size doesn't matter, owning your own land and doing your own farming in a proper way does. Most of the more well known negociants (Moet, Veuve, Bollinger, Taittinger, Charles Heidsieck, Krug, etc...) actually do this with their own vineyards, but when you have to purchase 50-70% of your grape supply, things get more complicated and fall apart. Roederer shows what is possible when you are 'big' and control your own destiny.
And Brad, that is a great post that you just made. champagne.gif
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#617 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 2:21 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.
So our bottle of '73 Dom turned out to be good, not outstanding. Probably opened up at about a B and got to B+ level ultimately. Still some fizz left, no apple cider oxidation, nice mature champagne elements, just a little bit tired. Oh well - I'm a year old than it is, and I'm a little bit tired sometimes, too. It was still a treat.

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#618 Post by Scott Watkins » May 17th, 2019, 5:28 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 2:21 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am
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May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am


Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.
So our bottle of '73 Dom turned out to be good, not outstanding. Probably opened up at about a B and got to B+ level ultimately. Still some fizz left, no apple cider oxidation, nice mature champagne elements, just a little bit tired. Oh well - I'm a year old than it is, and I'm a little bit tired sometimes, too. It was still a treat.
Okay but how was the fried chicken? [cheers.gif]
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#619 Post by Al Osterheld » May 17th, 2019, 8:20 pm

Happy Anniversary, Sarah. Pity it wasn't a top-notch bottle, but sounds like it was quite nice.

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#620 Post by Frank Murray III » May 19th, 2019, 10:23 am

Damn, the Marie-Courtin Eloquence is fantastic stuff. As much as I am running out of cellar space again, I need to go buy a few more of these. It's now really performed outstanding for me on two occasions and is my Champagne of the year to date. Amazing.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#621 Post by brigcampbell » May 19th, 2019, 1:44 pm

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#622 Post by Warren Taranow » May 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm

brigcampbell wrote:
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My sporadic notes from Paultacular
These were available for a song for a long time, and I've drunk through many. I've heard numerous times it's a good wine. For the price, to my palate, it's a great wine. It also led me to buy a bunch of the NV Cuvée Noble Rose without tasting, and I'm very glad I did.
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[*]2006 Taittinger Champagne Brut Blanc de Blancs Comtes de Champagne - France, Champagne (5/19/2019)
It's like flipping a coin, will Comtes show up or something uninspiring? From a magnum so I'm really rooting for this bottle. Plus it's the opening act for a huge champagne line up. Very fine bubbles. Sulphur and flint nose. Light oak, rich yellow fruit and soft mouthfeel. Lemon lime finish but not tart, slightly sweet. Good bottle
I've always liked this, and have opened far too many. Most were fantastic, with a couple merely very good

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[*]NV Georges Laval Champagne Garennes - France, Champagne (5/19/2019)
Least favorite of the lineup. Very angular and acid is the focus. That's usually not a problem for me but it lacks the fruit to balance out the corners.
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I've had similar experiences with Laval; one more bottle that I'll let sleep a long time

Thanks for the notes, gentlemen!

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#623 Post by Russ Williams » May 19th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 10:23 am
Damn, the Marie-Courtin Eloquence is fantastic stuff. As much as I am running out of cellar space again, I need to go buy a few more of these. It's now really performed outstanding for me on two occasions and is my Champagne of the year to date. Amazing.
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#624 Post by Frank Murray III » May 21st, 2019, 5:32 pm

Decided to do another 14 Concordance last night. This follows the Eloquence from this past weekend, which may end up as my WOTY, as it was/is that good. But with Concordance, I like it but it doesn't wow me like the Eloquence, or Resonance for that matter, too.
  • 2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Concordance Extra Brut - France, Champagne (5/21/2019)
    Disgorged 12/17, 100% PN, sans soufre, zero dosage. We opened this yesterday for our anniversary and I saved a glass using a stopper cork to keep the bubbles intact. For context, the last bottle I drank of this was December 2018 and it left me a little puzzled, showing an oxidized quality. So, I was not sure what this bottle would reveal. Last night, we drank most of it with Mexican food, but tonight I am doing this note with the wine on its own. The aromatic shows a leesy/fresh dough note, along with some of that same bruised apple from last year's bottle. The palate has bright acidity, some toast (which I presume is from the wood it sees) and some more of that apple note. The wine finishes with some tangy raspberry, lime, orange peel and some mineral. While I like this bottle better than the one last year, the Resonance and Eloquence bottlings are far more compelling for me, especially the latter which is stellar.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#625 Post by Robert M yers » May 25th, 2019, 5:17 pm

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Robert,

The bad part is that the info isn't on the bottle; The lot number and disgorgement date is on the little booklet the wine comes with when wrapped in straw.

For a long time, this wine was a blend of 2-3 vintages and the youngest was always at least 7-8 years old (sometimes 9-10) when disgorged so it had good maturity. Eventually, it moved to a base vintage with a perpetual blend of reserve wines that started around 1998; style didn't change much. Now, it seems this has moved a a blend where the largest vintage percentage (like yours) isn't even the base vintage. You actually have something based on 2008 with around 75% reserve wines; that sounds attractive to me, but following bottlings have seen the wines used get younger and younger. From what I can tell, recently the reserves changed from being late 90s - early 00s to a blend where much younger wines are used and this seems to consistently be changing. No clue why this happened, but this seems to be the new approach as some of the newer releases have 2012 as the youngest vintage.
Hey Brad,

here is the insert from the package they sent me. I’m pretty sure it’s not the same as the bottle tried earlier (which was great) but am curious to hear what you might know here. This was special order so I’m wondering if it’s more recent release. Thanks for any info

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#627 Post by Robert M yers » May 25th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Popped a 2009 Andre Clouet Brut Millesime. Not a huge fan tonight of this I as it was a real wine of extremes. Huge butter and feel on the nose and initial attack, but this was quickly shut down by some of the most acidic juice I’ve come across. A real exercise in extremes but zero balance here. Didn’t like either end, but I’d bet some years would do it well. Not one to drink now for sure

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#628 Post by Warren Taranow » May 25th, 2019, 5:31 pm

Another beautiful ‘95 Charles Heidsieck BdM. These have had a protracted zenith in their drinking window.

Opened pre-dinner in our room in Whistler. We were denied corkage at Oso last night, so there’s extra wine today! Off to the Red Door tonight with tomorrow’s post here (a ‘96 mag).

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#629 Post by Ed Steinway » May 25th, 2019, 5:38 pm

2012 Louise Brison Champagne Brut. A nice champagne for $35, full of mineral and lemon flavors.

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#630 Post by David Cooper » May 25th, 2019, 9:36 pm

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Another beautiful ‘95 Charles Heidsieck BdM. These have had a protracted zenith in their drinking window.

Opened pre-dinner in our room in Whistler. We were denied corkage at Oso last night, so there’s extra wine today! Off to the Red Door tonight with tomorrow’s post here (a ‘96 mag).

Cheers

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Really? That is bizarre because the other places in the Top Table group are very BYOB friendly. I hope it isn't a change in policy. The Spohns and us are going to West next month.

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#631 Post by Warren Taranow » May 26th, 2019, 6:29 am

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Warren Taranow wrote:
May 25th, 2019, 5:31 pm
Another beautiful ‘95 Charles Heidsieck BdM. These have had a protracted zenith in their drinking window.

Opened pre-dinner in our room in Whistler. We were denied corkage at Oso last night, so there’s extra wine today! Off to the Red Door tonight with tomorrow’s post here (a ‘96 mag).

Cheers

Warren
Really? That is bizarre because the other places in the Top Table group are very BYOB friendly. I hope it isn't a change in policy. The Spohns and us are going to West next month.
Araxi still allows corkage, so I erroneously assumed Bar Oso would too.
Have fun, and make sure to make you restaurant reservations now. It may already be too late to get tables at The Red Door and Rimrock for next month.

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#632 Post by Frank Murray III » June 2nd, 2019, 2:18 pm

Warren, since you posted last weekend, no one else dropped back here to post so let me fix that. I also have a few teed up blind for later that I will post on tomorrow.

I think the next Envoyer boat is coming in the next week so I will need some room in the 'Scraper for some larger-ass bottles so decided to pull this Bereche and clear a slot. Enjoyed this last night with Indian food, I like it even better today.
  • NV Bérêche et Fils Chardonnay Champagne Les Beaux Regards - France, Champagne (6/1/2019)
    Disgorged January 2015, dosage of 3 g/l, base of 2011 and 100% Chardonnay. Apple, lime, nuts. This has a lightly oxidative quality, with some finishing spine. I believe this is drinking well enough now, expressive and kind of soft, yet delicious....retasting the following day, kept under tight seal the bubbles are in good shape a day later. A yeasty note is prevalent today, along with some pounded rock in the aromatic. I would call this more complex today, more evolved, with some better structure and tension evident. The fruit remains an apple-centric wine, with some lime drizzle running through it, less oxidative that I can perceive, too. Very good.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#633 Post by Mike Hawkins » June 2nd, 2019, 3:52 pm

2002 Camille Saves... right in it’s sweet spot. Strawberries and apples. Superb

MV Krug... bought 6 years ago so not sure what release that makes it. Getting the secondary characters I like

2009 Dom Perignon... seemed younger than other bottles. I think this is a fascinating contrast to the 2008

2002 Henri Goutorbe Special Club... seemed a tad disjointed and was the last bottle so can’t check if this was an anomaly

2006 Vazart Cocquart Special Club... like many from the vintage, it drinks well young. Lots of tropical flavours

2008 Paul Bara Millesime... not a fan of the bitter finish

2000 Taittinger Comte’s.... like the 06, I think this will peak soon

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#634 Post by Steve Nordhoff » June 3rd, 2019, 7:40 am

Two mags I brought to go with the vintage ending in 9 dinner theme

1989 Jose Michel Collection. Greg at Envoyer labeled this the best Chambers he had from a trip 5 or so years ago. I bought one. Late disgorged all Meunier and a low dosage. Cork was a bit soft. Shimmering gold color, but not particularly dark. Beautiful biscuity nose with just a touch of brassiness. The fruit was superb, deep and broad, mostly yellow fruit with just the right acidity. This was really excellent and crushed the...

2009 Pierre Peters Chetillons. Maybe this was just too young after the Michel, but it was rather linear and light. I will wait a long time for the next one.
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#635 Post by Dave McCloskey » June 3rd, 2019, 8:14 am

2006 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne! Très bon.

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#636 Post by Jay Miller » June 3rd, 2019, 8:37 am

A glorious magnum of 2004 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvée opened yesterday.

Simply brilliant.
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#637 Post by Yao C » June 3rd, 2019, 9:41 am

Steve Nordhoff wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 7:40 am
2009 Pierre Peters Chetillons. Maybe this was just too young after the Michel, but it was rather linear and light. I will wait a long time for the next one.
Thanks for the note; I had the same impression with a 750 in Jan and find myself preferring the 2010 to the 2009 right now
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#638 Post by Blake Brown » June 3rd, 2019, 6:00 pm

Yesterday, I had multiple tastings of:
08` Cristal
07` Salon
08` Dom
07` Taittinger CdC
MV Krug Grand Cuvee 167eme
and single pours of at least 20 other splendid bubblies.

How could I do that all in one sitting/ standing? I went to Wally`s Grande Marque Champagne Tasting in Santa Monica.

Oh, BTW, I saw the Fu man and he shared a large pour of 04` Krug that came from the heavily guarded entrance to the ITB society drinking well in the behind the gate scene just off the venue.
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#639 Post by Frank Murray III » June 4th, 2019, 8:14 am

  • 2012 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Extra Brut La Grande Ruelle - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (6/4/2019)
    Disgorged 09/2017. 100% PN, sans soufre and without dosage. We opened this 2 days ago, and simply tried to stop it up overnight to finish last night. It didn't hold the bubbles well so the final glass of this was more of a still wine. I dig the dill/dried green herb note on this bottle--very distinctive. Polished, with apple, dark cherry, lime curd and raspberry. This bottle showed a unique expression, one I enjoyed and while I preferred it on Sunday with the bubbles and the more lively expression, it does show the classy core on which it is built when tasted still. Terrific.
  • 2012 Piollot Champagne Champes Rayés Brut Nature - France, Champagne (6/4/2019)
    Disgorged February 2017. No dosage. 100% Chardonnay. The best way to describe this is liquified chalk, with citrus rind, tart berry, like a cranberry. Decent complexity. For around $35, we enjoyed this and as a side note, this is made by Rolland Piollot, the husband of the winemaker for Marie-Courtin, who is Dominique Laurent. It's farmed organically and comes from some plots around the village of Polisot.
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (6/3/2019)
    Excellent showing again. Spicy, lemony turning creamy, stony with lime in the finish. This wine remains such an exquisite example of what fine Champagne can express. Love this stuff.
  • 2010 Vilmart & Cie Champagne Premier Cru Coeur de Cuvée - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (6/3/2019)
    Disgorged December 2016, 80% Chard / 20% Pinot Noir. This follows the 2011 CdC that we drank a few weeks ago. I like the 2010 better. This showed citrus peel, cardamom, ginger, lime and a chalky finish with some wood tones in the aromatic. Saved a glass for retasting, which I will use to update my note later today........retasted 24 hours later, as the wine held up nicely under stopper and kept a large portion of the bubbles, too. Creamy, lemon/lime, with terrific palate weight and presence. Sexy. Finishes with a bitter note, which for me was the acidity coming through as a citrus pith. Finally, when this became still and the bubbles had left, shows a cool mix of green apple, honey and some pie crust, giving a nod to the Vilmart style. This is a terrific bottle of CdC, for me much better than the 2011 from last month and well-suited to show well now, yet age with the acidity on which it is built.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#640 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » June 4th, 2019, 9:30 am

'90 Cristal- while I'm a fan of 40-50 year old Champagne, for me the '90 Cristal is at its peak and is best to drink over the next few years. As usual, it shows fully mature flavors with some honey and marzipan. That said, there is still plenty of yellow fruit to compliment the mature flavors which make this a great drink. Went well with a selection of oysters, but better with Marea's unparalleled crudo. Staggering Plus

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#641 Post by K John Joseph » June 4th, 2019, 4:01 pm

Blake Brown wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 6:00 pm
Yesterday, I had multiple tastings of:
08` Cristal
07` Salon
08` Dom
07` Taittinger CdC
MV Krug Grand Cuvee 167eme
Thoughts on 08 Cristal v 08 Dom, and how was the new 167 release from Krug?
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#642 Post by T. Altmayer » June 4th, 2019, 4:25 pm

For my son's graduation, we opened an 05 Dom Rose. The aromatics on the Dom Rose are one of the reasons I continue to buy and this one was no different. Surprisingly, the wine was fairly open for business, although we did let it sit in the bottle for a while after opening. Gorgeous color and great fruit. No in the same league as 96 or 02, but a very fine Champagne.
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#643 Post by Charlie Carnes » June 4th, 2019, 6:42 pm

One of FMIII favorites tonight. Hughes Godme Rose tonight. I love this wine from Verzenay. Powdered rose, red clay dust, lime zest hints, brisk, full, crisp, and certainly delicious. Julie and I might have drunk two of these tonight.
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#644 Post by Blake Brown » June 4th, 2019, 7:53 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 4:01 pm
Blake Brown wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 6:00 pm
Yesterday, I had multiple tastings of:
08` Cristal
07` Salon
08` Dom
07` Taittinger CdC
MV Krug Grand Cuvee 167eme
Thoughts on 08 Cristal v 08 Dom, and how was the new 167 release from Krug?
John, the 08` Cristal is just not ready. I had tastes from a few different bottles throughout the day and have had 3 bottles prior, none were all that giving, but did give significant notice of impending royalty.
The 08` Dom was more evolved and still not ready either. It had the typical spicy, brioche lemon lime with a healthy mousse, but again it just hinted of forthcoming excellence. Reminded my of the 90` at its earliest.
The Krug was really good albeit youthful. I went back and back and it just got better. This was showing the best of the 3 IMHO. Full, rich with power and finesse and needing to gain some balance.
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#645 Post by Russ Williams » June 5th, 2019, 5:29 am

Charlie Carnes wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 6:42 pm
One of FMIII favorites tonight. Hughes Godme Rose tonight. I love this wine from Verzenay. Powdered rose, red clay dust, lime zest hints, brisk, full, crisp, and certainly delicious. Julie and I might have drunk two of these tonight.
I agree and a great value as well.
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#646 Post by K John Joseph » June 5th, 2019, 7:10 am

Blake Brown wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 7:53 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 4:01 pm
Blake Brown wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 6:00 pm
Yesterday, I had multiple tastings of:
08` Cristal
07` Salon
08` Dom
07` Taittinger CdC
MV Krug Grand Cuvee 167eme
Thoughts on 08 Cristal v 08 Dom, and how was the new 167 release from Krug?
John, the 08` Cristal is just not ready. I had tastes from a few different bottles throughout the day and have had 3 bottles prior, none were all that giving, but did give significant notice of impending royalty.
The 08` Dom was more evolved and still not ready either. It had the typical spicy, brioche lemon lime with a healthy mousse, but again it just hinted of forthcoming excellence. Reminded my of the 90` at its earliest.
The Krug was really good albeit youthful. I went back and back and it just got better. This was showing the best of the 3 IMHO. Full, rich with power and finesse and needing to gain some balance.
Thanks, Blake. Appreciate the follow up.
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#647 Post by Hao Lu » June 7th, 2019, 8:43 pm

2008 Diebolt-Vallois Champagne BDB
crisp, fresh, balanced, simply lovely!

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#648 Post by Warren Taranow » June 7th, 2019, 9:18 pm

2008 Louis Nicaise Champagne Premier Cru Brut Millésimé
This was a pleasant surprise, a mouse that roared. Lot's of body but great verve. Citrus dominated, plus tart apple and vanilla. Really good right now.
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#649 Post by Scott Watkins » June 10th, 2019, 7:48 pm

It's hot out here today so looking through the cellar I found this...Huré Frères NV Champagne Brut Reserve L'Invitation, not sure where I bought it but it's nice. Tastes like a pretty high dosage but a really nice beam of acidity cuts right through it. Ginger brioche minerals and some baked apple red apple skin with a bit creaminess on the palate. Nice little wine and is working well on a hot night with turkey burgers.
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#650 Post by Ryan M » June 10th, 2019, 7:51 pm

Tonight had the Charles de Marques, Brut Champagne NV from Trader Joe's for about $20. Light and elegant with a lot of cashew.
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