Which Champagne are you drinking?

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#501 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 26th, 2019, 7:58 pm

Taking a NV Vilmart rose (disg. 12/16) to enjoy with my family, pizza, and the Hawaiian sunset. Cheers, everyone! [berserker.gif]

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#502 Post by Robert M yers » March 26th, 2019, 8:24 pm

Has anybody had Clouets 1911 lately? I used to really like the stuff and it seems like it may be a value at this point as the price has remained steady over the years.

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#503 Post by Scott Watkins » March 27th, 2019, 2:06 pm

NV Champagne Godmé Sabine Champagne Grand Cru Brut Rosé juicy strawberry tart raspberry and balanced acidity. Fantastic bottle for a great price!
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#504 Post by Steve Nordhoff » March 27th, 2019, 3:04 pm

1999 Billecart Salmon Cuvee Nicolas Francois-Fat creamy beautifully aged Grand Cru champagne. This was lush, but very balanced and had on orchard's worth of fruit. Very nice, very grand. Crowd pleaser.

Nathalie Falmet 2012 Terra Blanc de Blanc-FMIII coordinated a Xmas present with my wife for moi and this was one of the bottles. Four people drained this in about 15 minutes. Very bright, with the typical chard acid. Leaner, but not too much so. Plenty of "Terra" of the limestone mineral type. Very fresh and young, everyone thought it was deelish.
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#505 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 27th, 2019, 9:23 pm

NV Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve (disg. 2018)

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#506 Post by Frederico L e e » March 28th, 2019, 4:19 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 27th, 2019, 9:23 pm
NV Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve (disg. 2018)
How was it?

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#507 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 28th, 2019, 1:38 pm

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Frederico L e e wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 4:19 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
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NV Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve (disg. 2018)
How was it?
Young, but delicious. Rich, lemon curd and toast with good acidity. Clearly, a couple years will do a lot for it, but no regrets opening this one.

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#508 Post by Frederico L e e » March 28th, 2019, 5:02 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 1:38 pm
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Frederico L e e wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 4:19 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 27th, 2019, 9:23 pm
NV Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve (disg. 2018)
How was it?
Young, but delicious. Rich, lemon curd and toast with good acidity. Clearly, a couple years will do a lot for it, but no regrets opening this one.
I found a store that has it, disgorged in 2008, is that still good?

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#509 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 28th, 2019, 8:00 pm

Frederico L e e wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 5:02 pm
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 1:38 pm
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How was it?
Young, but delicious. Rich, lemon curd and toast with good acidity. Clearly, a couple years will do a lot for it, but no regrets opening this one.
I found a store that has it, disgorged in 2008, is that still good?
Assuming a fair price, I’d be all over that! This is $50-$60 at release.

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#510 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 28th, 2019, 9:09 pm

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#511 Post by Scott Watkins » March 28th, 2019, 9:32 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
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Meh. champagne.gif
Send me all your remaining bottles [cheers.gif]
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#512 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 28th, 2019, 9:59 pm

Scott Watkins wrote:
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Meh. champagne.gif
Send me all your remaining bottles [cheers.gif]
SWMBO told me specifically to thank you, dude. She said the bottle was special, just as promised. And it was, no doubt! [cheers.gif]

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#513 Post by Warren Taranow » March 28th, 2019, 10:18 pm

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#514 Post by Scott Watkins » March 29th, 2019, 4:41 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 9:59 pm
Scott Watkins wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 9:32 pm
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 9:09 pm
Meh. champagne.gif
Send me all your remaining bottles [cheers.gif]
SWMBO told me specifically to thank you, dude. She said the bottle was special, just as promised. And it was, no doubt! [cheers.gif]
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#515 Post by alan weinberg » March 29th, 2019, 6:14 pm

02 Dom tonight.

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#516 Post by p@ulbortin » March 30th, 2019, 6:29 pm

96 dom, terrific even on the second day with champagne stopper.

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#517 Post by Neal.Mollen » March 30th, 2019, 7:22 pm

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1999 Billecart Salmon Cuvee Nicolas Francois-Fat creamy beautifully aged Grand Cru champagne. This was lush, but very balanced and had on orchard's worth of fruit. Very nice, very grand. Crowd pleaser.

Nathalie Falmet 2012 Terra Blanc de Blanc-FMIII coordinated a Xmas present with my wife for moi and this was one of the bottles. Four people drained this in about 15 minutes. Very bright, with the typical chard acid. Leaner, but not too much so. Plenty of "Terra" of the limestone mineral type. Very fresh and young, everyone thought it was deelish.
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#518 Post by Warren Taranow » March 30th, 2019, 10:10 pm

  • 1998 Gosset Champagne Celebris Brut - France, Champagne (3/30/2019)
    Very dense and a little sweet. Strong citrus and bready notes. Great cut keeps it fresh. Seemed much younger than 21. No hurry if you have more; sadly, this was my only bottle.
  • 2003 Philipponnat Champagne Brut Clos des Goisses - France, Champagne (3/30/2019)
    Fantastic, the best 2003 Champagne I've encountered. Creamy orange, brioche and apples. Still mostly primary. This had an interesting "sharpness"; I couldn't quite tell if it was the acidity or alcohol, but I suspect it was the latter. Either way, a pleasure to drink, and worth seeking more.
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#519 Post by alan weinberg » March 30th, 2019, 10:25 pm

2000 Ployez-Jacquemart d’Harbonville. Outstanding.

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#520 Post by Robert M yers » March 30th, 2019, 11:36 pm

p@ulbortin wrote:
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96 dom, terrific even on the second day with champagne stopper.
Seriously, that’s some restraint! Would love to have some 96 left...

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#521 Post by J. Rock » March 31st, 2019, 11:39 am

Pierre Moncuit Grand Cru Blanc De Blancs Brut.

I'm just getting into Champagne, but I thought this was impressive, especially for the price. I really enjoyed the cream and biscuit notes.
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#522 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 31st, 2019, 1:21 pm

J. Rock wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 11:39 am
Pierre Moncuit Grand Cru Blanc De Blancs Brut.

I'm just getting into Champagne, but I thought this was impressive, especially for the price. I really enjoyed the cream and biscuit notes.
+1. Have a couple more of these and I liked my first bottle.

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#523 Post by p@ulbortin » March 31st, 2019, 2:04 pm

Robert M yers wrote:
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p@ulbortin wrote:
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96 dom, terrific even on the second day with champagne stopper.
Seriously, that’s some restraint! Would love to have some 96 left...
First from a recently acquired case. Worth reloading!

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#524 Post by Frank Murray III » March 31st, 2019, 3:34 pm

  • NV Savart Champagne Premier Cru l'Ouverture - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (3/31/2019)
    Opened yesterday, kept the wine under tight seal overnight. 100% Pinot Noir, 7 g/l dosage, disgorged March 2017. Agree with the comment that this is 'fat', as it has a palate weight that feels heavy for my tastes. It also has a bruised apple quality, along with citrus and then something bitter/nutty in the finish along with the tangy citrus note. I'm not wild about this bottle of Savart, as it's just not translating for me.
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#525 Post by ky1em!ttskus » April 3rd, 2019, 9:05 am

NV Pascal Doquet Champagne ‘Horizon’ Blanc de Blancs

Not into this wine. Feels fat and flabby on the palate. Not really interesting.

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#526 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » April 7th, 2019, 4:27 pm

'96 Dom Perignon
'02 Dom Perignon
'08 Dom Perignon


Had the above side by side. Felt the '02 was not quite as good as the other two. As I, and others, have previously stated, the '08 is already drinking great. All three were very similar and didn't seem as if they were twelve years apart. Staggering, Staggering Minus, Staggering

'96 Krug - not the best showing for this bottle. The acidity seemed to be too piercing through not enough fruit. That said, it was a classic Krug not unlike the previous Champagnes were classically DP. Excellent Plus

'66 Dom Ruinart Baron Philippe de Rothschild labeling - DOA

'61 Charles Heidseick - DOA

'96 Salon - one of the "good" bottles of this somewhat variable Champagne. That means this bottle was Killer Minus

'71 Pol Roger BdB - at least one older bottle of Champagne from last week performed up to its potential. Fully mature with hints of effervescence in the glass. Great mature flavors. Staggering Minus
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#527 Post by Frank Murray III » April 7th, 2019, 4:48 pm

  • 2012 Vazart-Coquart Champagne Grand Cru Grand Bouquet - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (4/7/2019)
    First bottle of two. New producer for me, too. 100% Chardonnay, 6 g/l, disgorged June 2018. Really enjoying this as it has persistent grapefruit and lemon notes, along with green apple as it warms. The texture has a mouth filling texture, with a dollop of lemon drop, too. $50 US for this cuvee, I dig it. Would like to track down the Special Club and Extra Brut to see how these show. Terrific.
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#528 Post by ky1em!ttskus » April 10th, 2019, 8:51 pm

NV Launois "Cuvée Reserve" Brut Blanc de Blancs

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#529 Post by Frank Murray III » April 11th, 2019, 5:26 pm

More Godme Rose. Not sure if this is the first batch of disgorgement info that Godme has put on a back label but from what I can tell, nobody else in CT is listing disgorge dates so maybe this batch is a beginning for this info. Interesting too, the dosage info is gone so it's like a game of poker here to guess what info we will get on these. The photo below looks orange in color for the wine, but it's clearly salmon--blame my cell phone. FWIW, I have a few of the smaller cuvee 2008s sitting in the cellar made by Hugues, probably time to open a few of those and get some notes up soon.
  • NV Hugues Godmé Champagne Grand Cru Rosé - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (4/11/2019)
    This is from 750, from a new batch of bottles I bought back in December 2018. The back labels on these seems to be in constant change with what I presume are new disgorgements. This bottle's back label has a disgorge date of October 2017, with a composition of 35% Chard / 65% Pinot Noir, yet there is no dosage info. This has a salmon color, and perhaps a little toasted aroma. The back label does say 40% done in wood, so not sure what the program is for this batch, but maybe the 'chene' is talking. Has a good spine of lime to provide acidity, along with some green apple and raspberry. Touch of saline passes through the finish, and all together, this is drinking solid for the $40 I paid for it. The NV Godme Rose, like Dethune, continues to be a strong performer for my cellar.
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#530 Post by alan weinberg » April 12th, 2019, 7:58 am

09 Vilmart CdC last night—a little too exuberant and fruity but balanced and intense w good acidity. Put it in the cellar for a few years.

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#531 Post by Jay Miller » April 12th, 2019, 8:00 am

Steve Nordhoff wrote:
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Vilmart 2009 Cuvée Rubis - medium salmon color, beautiful bouquet of strawberries and some minerality. Very balanced and long. Should last another decade or more, but drinks very well now. One of my favorite rose Champers.
Coincidentally I opened one of these on 3/28. Agree with all you say, complex, balanced, delicious and a fantastic match with some really good Cantonese food.
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#532 Post by Elliot Steele » April 12th, 2019, 8:06 am

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'66 Dom Ruinart Baron Philippe de Rothschild labeling - DOA
Too bad about that. I opened up the '64 from 750 last summer and it was an absolute knockout wine. Very little, if any, bubbles left but my god was that a complex and perfectly mature wine. Was that your last bottle?
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#533 Post by Warren Taranow » April 12th, 2019, 8:09 am

We opened a gorgeous 2004 Camille Savès Cuvée Anaïs Jolicoeur last night. Solid; I’m really happy I found a few. Big voluptuous wine, clearly oak aged Pinot or mostly so. Viscous mouthfeel tamed by acid and a fine and persistent bead.
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#534 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » April 12th, 2019, 10:02 am

Elliot Steele wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 8:06 am
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
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'66 Dom Ruinart Baron Philippe de Rothschild labeling - DOA
Too bad about that. I opened up the '64 from 750 last summer and it was an absolute knockout wine. Very little, if any, bubbles left but my god was that a complex and perfectly mature wine. Was that your last bottle?
Yes, proper bottles of that wine can be great from a number of vintages.
Pretty sure it was my last bottle of any vintage of that Champagne.
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#535 Post by ky1em!ttskus » April 12th, 2019, 11:06 pm

Went by Envoyer today... opened a Vilmart GC tonight. Happy Friday, peeps. [cheers.gif]

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#536 Post by Frank Murray III » April 13th, 2019, 6:51 am

I picked up stuff yesterday too. We probably just missed each other. The Vilmart, Calzac and Jacquesson came in for me.

Sooooo, when are we going to drink together?
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2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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#537 Post by Warren Taranow » April 13th, 2019, 9:30 am

A 1998 Vilmart Grand Cellier d'Or with dinner last night. Spicy, toasty, rich yet racy. We loved it. I've declared open season on these, and those remaining in the cellar are critically endangered.

On a side note, I'm really liking the '98 vintage in Champagne. Bright, ripe fruit and great acid cut in recent bottles from both growers and big houses.

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#538 Post by Hank Victor » April 13th, 2019, 4:18 pm

Krug 166e last weekend as a yolo pop after a few bottles of wine in...

This weekend Lanson Black Label NV, Pommery Rose NV, and Charles Heidsieck Brut RSV NV.
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#539 Post by Warren Taranow » April 13th, 2019, 5:24 pm

Nice Laurent-Perrier Grand Siécle tonight. I’m surprised there’s not more chatter about this wine on WB. Very elegant and balanced. This was a young bottle with plenty of upside potential. I have some older bottles that I’m looking forward to.
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#540 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » April 13th, 2019, 5:45 pm

I’m a big fan; I like it when it’s <$100.

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#541 Post by Robert M yers » April 18th, 2019, 11:39 am

Bought a bottle of Clouet 1911 and popped it the other day since I haven’t had one in about 10 years. I remember loving it then but started wondering if the value here might be better now as the price just hasn’t budged much since then.

This wine will scratch my Krug 164 itch for certain. It has the oxidative notes, brioche and a bit of yeast, but wow does it also carry zippy acid to hold it up. I was told by retailer that this was 50% 2004 and 25% each 07/08. Really nice wine and a value @ $70 imo. I went back for 6 more. I’m always hesitant to recommend as palates are different, but if you love MV Krug but it’s not always in the budget give this wine a try.

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#542 Post by ky1em!ttskus » April 18th, 2019, 12:34 pm

On the lookout, Robert. Thanks!

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#543 Post by Frank Murray III » April 18th, 2019, 5:58 pm

Spring in the OC, in the mid-high 70s today so good night to get the Champagne out, and I expect to do a lot of this over the next 3-4 months. Glad it is here.

Getting into some more Calsac, trying to get more things opened from this producer that is based in Avize. http://www.champagne-etienne-calsac.com/ Their range is small enough that it's doable to try everything, which I will be able to do now based on my inventory. Doing the Rose tonight. Paid $40 for this and it's terrific for that price point.
  • NV Etienne Calsac Champagne Rosé de Craie - France, Champagne (4/18/2019)
    First bottle of two. Just picked these up from Envoyer last week. 89% Chard / 11% PN. 4-5 g/l dosage (bottle says 4, website says 5). 20% done in wood. Disgorged July 2018, with 2015 base wine. Light salmon color, with a good density and balance. The palate gives off a little wood too, just a brushing of barrel tone that seasons the wine. Tangy green apple, red berry, maybe a touch of honey in the wine but nothing of the citrus soda note that I dislike in Champagne. Between the dosage, the inflection of chene and the texture that is juicy and fresh, this is nice stuff. Nothing wrong with drinking this now, too.
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My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#544 Post by Brad Baker » April 19th, 2019, 5:38 am

Robert M yers wrote:
April 18th, 2019, 11:39 am
Bought a bottle of Clouet 1911 and popped it the other day since I haven’t had one in about 10 years. I remember loving it then but started wondering if the value here might be better now as the price just hasn’t budged much since then.

This wine will scratch my Krug 164 itch for certain. It has the oxidative notes, brioche and a bit of yeast, but wow does it also carry zippy acid to hold it up. I was told by retailer that this was 50% 2004 and 25% each 07/08. Really nice wine and a value @ $70 imo. I went back for 6 more. I’m always hesitant to recommend as palates are different, but if you love MV Krug but it’s not always in the budget give this wine a try.
Robert,

Which cuvee # did you have? I am big fan of Clouet's wines especially the 1911 as it always is a big rich, fruity wine, but also full of structure. I just wish there was a way to easily determine what wines are in what release. Earlier this year, I had a bottle of Cuvee 72 which is supposedly (you can never be 100% on this wine as even Jean-Francois Clouet seems to change his mind at times) 50% 2008 and the remainder 2007, 2009, and 2010. It came across as much more thin than normal with bruised apple and a brisk, tart, minerality being the main focus. Overall it was very boring and missing were the bigger, fruity, biscuity, and slightly honeyed notes that I normally loved about this wine. Also of note, the dosage seems to have come down a lot on this release. Where it used to always be in the 9-10 g/L range, this release is only at 6 g/L. It left me very disappointed in the wine as I didn't open it for a drier, earlier maturing expression of Bouzy, but maybe others will love it. It will be interesting to see how other releases fare and if the wine style is changing direction or if it was limited to whatever releases come out of this particular blend.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#545 Post by Robert M yers » April 19th, 2019, 8:37 am

That’s interesting Brad, my bottle sounds more like the ones you prefer with the biscuit notes ect up front. No lack of fruit or dosage that I could detect. Yet it had a real underlying nerve to it. I didn’t see a lot # for some reason, which is why I emailed the retailer. They gave me the spec sheet info which was the blend i mentioned. I’ll pull the bottle out of the recycle bin tonight and look more closely for the lot. Thanks for the insight

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#546 Post by Mason H » April 19th, 2019, 10:17 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
April 3rd, 2019, 9:05 am
NV Pascal Doquet Champagne ‘Horizon’ Blanc de Blancs

Not into this wine. Feels fat and flabby on the palate. Not really interesting.
What was the base year of this wine? I've had 3 bottles of the 2014 base and have loved it every time, and found it anything but flabby: high acid, not very sweet (5 g/l dosage), with lightly oxidative flavors that let you know it's a grower champagne.
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#547 Post by Brad Baker » April 19th, 2019, 10:20 am

Robert,

The bad part is that the info isn't on the bottle; The lot number and disgorgement date is on the little booklet the wine comes with when wrapped in straw.

For a long time, this wine was a blend of 2-3 vintages and the youngest was always at least 7-8 years old (sometimes 9-10) when disgorged so it had good maturity. Eventually, it moved to a base vintage with a perpetual blend of reserve wines that started around 1998; style didn't change much. Now, it seems this has moved a a blend where the largest vintage percentage (like yours) isn't even the base vintage. You actually have something based on 2008 with around 75% reserve wines; that sounds attractive to me, but following bottlings have seen the wines used get younger and younger. From what I can tell, recently the reserves changed from being late 90s - early 00s to a blend where much younger wines are used and this seems to consistently be changing. No clue why this happened, but this seems to be the new approach as some of the newer releases have 2012 as the youngest vintage.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#548 Post by ky1em!ttskus » April 19th, 2019, 10:26 am

Mason H wrote:
April 19th, 2019, 10:17 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
April 3rd, 2019, 9:05 am
NV Pascal Doquet Champagne ‘Horizon’ Blanc de Blancs

Not into this wine. Feels fat and flabby on the palate. Not really interesting.
What was the base year of this wine? I've had 3 bottles of the 2014 base and have loved it every time, and found it anything but flabby: high acid, not very sweet (5 g/l dosage), with lightly oxidative flavors that let you know it's a grower champagne.
I’m guessing ‘14, Mason. I went back and checked the specs after I tasted it and was legit surprised by the bottle I had. I saw the 5 g/l. It’s a BdB. And it was flabby.

Had to be an off bottle now with you coming in reporting way different results.

I’ll open another soon and report back.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#549 Post by Mason H » April 19th, 2019, 10:32 am

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
April 19th, 2019, 10:26 am
Mason H wrote:
April 19th, 2019, 10:17 am
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
April 3rd, 2019, 9:05 am
NV Pascal Doquet Champagne ‘Horizon’ Blanc de Blancs

Not into this wine. Feels fat and flabby on the palate. Not really interesting.
What was the base year of this wine? I've had 3 bottles of the 2014 base and have loved it every time, and found it anything but flabby: high acid, not very sweet (5 g/l dosage), with lightly oxidative flavors that let you know it's a grower champagne.
I’m guessing ‘14, Mason. I went back and checked the specs after I tasted it and was legit surprised by the bottle I had. I saw the 5 g/l. It’s a BdB. And it was flabby.

Had to be an off bottle now with you coming in reporting way different results.

I’ll open another soon and report back.
Nice. Hope it was.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#550 Post by Robert M yers » April 19th, 2019, 10:41 am

Brad does each bottle have that booklet or one per case? I think my single bottle was wrapped in paper but didn’t get a booklet. Since I ordered six more I’d like to ask for the more exact info/booklet. 6 or 12 per case?

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