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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1351 Post by AD Northup » July 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm

Tonight:
2007 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvée
2015 Roses de Jeanne La Presle

Can look at CT (adnorthup) for my note on the Vilmart, Bouchard was very much the same as last time
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1352 Post by Frank Murray III » July 31st, 2020, 6:00 pm

Andrew, good work. You're drinking well this weekend.....find joy, man!

Here is my Friday night contribution to the ongoing thread here...by the way, bravo to my pal Steve Nordhoff for starting this thread so many months ago.
  • 2015 Chartogne-Taillet Champagne Le Rosé - France, Champagne (7/31/2020)
    Disgorged 02/2019, mainly 2015 base, from PN, PM and Chard, dosed at around 7 g/l. Same peach color as previous bottles. Bit of a spicy note in this, like a cinnamon. Joined by green apple, strawberry and a pungent cherry. Finishes with a spicy, pippin apple finish. Better with a chill, as when it is warmer it seems a little glossy to me.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1353 Post by Blake Brown » July 31st, 2020, 6:18 pm

2 nights later:

The initial notes- 2006 BILLECART-SALMON CUVEE NICOLAS FRANCOIS BRUT- the inaugural release of this cuvee was in 1964 to pay tribute to the co-founder (who married Elisabeth Salmon); it is typically made of 60% Grand Cru Pinot Noir and 40% Chardonnay; 5% of the wine is vinified in old oak barrels before spending 11 years on its lees and undergoing partial malolactic fermentation; it is sugar dosed at 4 gpl; following the mild yellow color came aromatics of nice citrus fruit, especially lemon; on the palate, it gave up more of the same plus mild honeyed orange, apple and pear along with a surprising and undesired touch of straw/ hay/ grass, Sauvignon Blanc like, that eventually blew off to allow for the more charming nuances to be experienced; it had bright acidity and a wondrous creamy mouthfeel; I was so expecting this to be stellar out of the gate, but it took at least 40 minutes before the straw accent dissipated and allowed for it to be experienced for the glamorous wine it is intended to be IMHO.

Update- Thankfully, its showing beautifully now and NO grassy notes, just fresh, ripe citrus fruit and a super smooth mouthfeel plus all else above.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1354 Post by AD Northup » July 31st, 2020, 8:22 pm

AD Northup wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm
Tonight:
2007 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvée
2015 Roses de Jeanne La Presle

Can look at CT (adnorthup) for my note on the Vilmart, Bouchard was very much the same as last time
Add NV Vilmart Grand Cellier disgorged October 17
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2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

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1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1355 Post by AD Northup » July 31st, 2020, 8:42 pm

AD Northup wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 8:22 pm
AD Northup wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 5:20 pm
Tonight:
2007 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvée
2015 Roses de Jeanne La Presle

Can look at CT (adnorthup) for my note on the Vilmart, Bouchard was very much the same as last time
Add NV Vilmart Grand Cellier disgorged October 17
Which is absolutely delicious...
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2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
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2015 Ultramarine BdB

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1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
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#1356 Post by Mike Van1 » August 1st, 2020, 5:52 am

Celebrated a special occasion last night with this.
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#1357 Post by Blake Brown » August 1st, 2020, 8:09 am

Mike Van1 wrote:
August 1st, 2020, 5:52 am
Celebrated a special occasion last night with this.
Very nice- had a bottle a couple of months ago and it was several;y oxidized- Yuk!
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#1358 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 1st, 2020, 9:33 am

Ruinart Rose from 375. So delicious, and since it was a gift, so rewarding!
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#1359 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 1st, 2020, 7:27 pm

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#1360 Post by Neal.Mollen » August 2nd, 2020, 7:09 am

Mary Deem wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 10:47 am
2014 Benoit Lahaye la Violaine - Vintage not labeled but cork was stamped '2014', disgorged 4/2019. Bottle acquired from Sec Wines. Stunning wine, one of the more unique profiles tasted. Cellar temp fennel caraway herbs and hints of cucumber balancing lean semi sweet green apples (chardonnay fruit?) and rich yet never heavy red pinot fruit. Tart grape skins and almost mouth puckering salinity. This is one of the few wines that showed equally well (to me) both at cellar temp and warmer. Cooler temps emphasized herbs cucumber and other green aspects while warmer temps emphasized apple and pinot noir fruits. The latter fruit becoming richer over time but never heavy. The wine is lithe yet powerful, possessing powerful rich fruit yet remaining light on its feet. I drank this over three days. The second day the salnety was intense and evne more prominant balancng out the fruit which had become richer and more prominant (yet not heavy). The fennel caraway fruit remained prominant as well. By the third day I had only a glass left (sob). The fruit seemed to be a bit more pinot noir dominant and the fennel carraway herbs, more eintegrated but otherwise relatively unchanged save for being more of a still wine at this point.

This wine is unique to me compared to other similar made grower Champagne in the emphasis on fennel and caraway spices which were both prominent but integrated. My tasting of sans soufre Champagne is limited but I have yet to come across such a lovely prominent herbal profile.

This is my first tasting of a Lahaye wine but I have his Brut Nature up on deck for my next tasting. I already asked Eric to hold another bottle and plan on seeking out other vintages o this special wine as well as other Lahaye wines. This is one of those wines that changes ones perception of wine –even in the realm of grower Champagne which already challenges and pushes limits.

I have to thank Neil of the sadly now defunct Brooklynguy’s Wine and Food Blog for initially inspiring me to try this wine. I read his description of this and other Lahaye wines years ago and was intrigued. Only my ample supply of René Collard Champagne kept me from trying a bottle at the time. I also appreciate the fellow Beserkers who have posted about this and other Lahaye wines. I would love to hear from folks who have La Violaine – both from this and earlier vintages.
Hi Mary. I had Benoit Lahaye la Violaine (not this vintage) for the first time at lunch at Les Crayeres -- one of the top 5 meals in my life. I had never even heard of the producer, and told the somm to pick a couple of bottles that likely would never make it to the states. It was blissful. After lunch we went straight to Caves du Forum to buy a few bottles to smuggle back to the states

Agree with the praise for the 09 Cristal. Just a sensational wine.

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#1361 Post by Warren Taranow » August 2nd, 2020, 8:37 am

Earlier this week, we opened my last NV André Clouet . I bought three of these, as they were bundled with three 1996 Phillipponant Clos des Goisses in an auction lot. I've always considered Clouet a nice fairly priced Champagne, but the bottles I have opened were wonderful. These are old bottles, based on the condition and oxidation of the foil. They were imported by The Rare Wine Company. I'm guessing they're from the nineties since RWC opened in '89, but the bottles look even older. The oxidized foil stuck to the bottle and cork, and while the cork never expanded after opening, this still had a good "pop" and a generous mousse. This would convince anyone that NV Champagne can age beautifully. It was still very lively and clean, with great complexity. Full bodied, red fruit, brioche, mushroom, and a hint of subtle hazelnut. I love it; what a nice surprise from an auction bycatch.
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Last night, 2010 Vilmart Grand Cellier Rubis. A glorious success in a challenging vintage. This was blissful at all stages: the color and appearance, the nose, and the mouthfeel and flavors on the palate. While some champagnes scream "lemon", this yelled "orange!" Even the color. Creamy Cara Cara, Blood orange, tangerine, with strawberries and sweet brown spice thrown in, marzipan in the background. Just delicious, and sadly my last bottle. I often feel let down with other tête de cuvée rosés, but I will always look forward to this one. Vilmart has mastered rosé.
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Since there were four of us, we needed a second bottle, and with no remaining vintage GC Rubis, I opened a NV Vilmart Cuvée Rubis. While the '10 was on another level, this did not disappoint. Crisp red fruit, strawberries, a little bitter spice, great lift and freshness. One of my favorite NV Rosés
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1362 Post by Blake Brown » August 2nd, 2020, 8:43 am

Very nice Warren. Great notes and pics.
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#1363 Post by Frank Murray III » August 2nd, 2020, 9:24 am

Warren, I still have one bottle left of the 2010 Vilmart CR.....sounds like a good time to drink it, yes?

Andrew, good duo there, man. The 2012 CdC is coming soon........saving my budget for that!
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2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#1364 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am

Frank Murray III wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 9:24 am
Warren, I still have one bottle left of the 2010 Vilmart CR.....sounds like a good time to drink it, yes?

Andrew, good duo there, man. The 2012 CdC is coming soon........saving my budget for that!
Any intel on when we may start seeing this at U.S. retail?
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2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
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#1365 Post by J a y H a c k » August 2nd, 2020, 12:16 pm

  • 2008 Henriot Champagne Brut Millésimé - France, Champagne (8/2/2020)
    Brought to X2O to eat our anniversary dinner outdoors. The 200th anniversary for the house and our 44th. They were going to give us flutes, but I requested Burgundy glasses, and they gladly complied. A lot of lemon curd with lime and even a bit of pineapple. Crushed rock minerality and somewhat higher than average acidity. Just a tiny whiff of yeasty brioche but very light. I got a case of this from somewhere for $60 each. I consider that to have been a bargain. If I could get it again, I would get more. (93 pts.)
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#1366 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 2nd, 2020, 1:10 pm

Hure Freres Invitation. I picked this up for $37 and am not disappointed. Just a well-balanced wine to sip while watching the Boston Celtics in a winning quarter.
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#1367 Post by Jim Stewart » August 2nd, 2020, 1:24 pm

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Hure Freres Invitation. I picked this up for $37 and am not disappointed. Just a well-balanced wine to sip while watching the Boston Celtics in a winning quarter.
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#1368 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 2nd, 2020, 1:36 pm

Jim Stewart wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 1:24 pm
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
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Hure Freres Invitation. I picked this up for $37 and am not disappointed. Just a well-balanced wine to sip while watching the Boston Celtics in a winning quarter.
Whoa, I had a mental disconnect for a minute reading that in August! Then I remembered the times we are in.
In this game, we are in great times. Nice to be able to forget about the current state we are in...even if the sound is piped in and the bodies in the seats are, well, what are they?
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#1369 Post by Frank Murray III » August 2nd, 2020, 6:23 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 9:24 am
Warren, I still have one bottle left of the 2010 Vilmart CR.....sounds like a good time to drink it, yes?

Andrew, good duo there, man. The 2012 CdC is coming soon........saving my budget for that!
Any intel on when we may start seeing this at U.S. retail?
What I am hearing is Fall. Between this and the new Emotion labeling, I'd be happy to lock both of these in.
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2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#1370 Post by Warren Taranow » August 2nd, 2020, 6:28 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 6:23 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 9:24 am
Warren, I still have one bottle left of the 2010 Vilmart CR.....sounds like a good time to drink it, yes?

Andrew, good duo there, man. The 2012 CdC is coming soon........saving my budget for that!
Any intel on when we may start seeing this at U.S. retail?
What I am hearing is Fall. Between this and the new Emotion labeling, I'd be happy to lock both of these in.
Frank,
What the difference between the Emotion Rubis and the GC Rubis? Are they the same?
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#1371 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 2nd, 2020, 6:29 pm

Tonight it was Marc Hebrart Rosé NV - delicious.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1372 Post by Andrew M » August 2nd, 2020, 6:42 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 6:28 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 6:23 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 11:18 am


Any intel on when we may start seeing this at U.S. retail?
What I am hearing is Fall. Between this and the new Emotion labeling, I'd be happy to lock both of these in.
Frank,
What the difference between the Emotion Rubis and the GC Rubis? Are they the same?
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#1373 Post by Frank Murray III » August 2nd, 2020, 6:50 pm

Not Andrew but he is correct. [highfive.gif]

I dig the new label. From the two times I have heard Laurent talk about it, he is very proud of it, too. This will show you the label.

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#1374 Post by Steve Nordhoff » August 2nd, 2020, 9:05 pm

06 Hebrart Rive Droite- my last one from a six pack. Gentle bubbles and akin to a white burg. Touches of pear, apple, spice and oak. Went well with the cheeses and nuts to start.
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#1375 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm

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Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
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#1376 Post by Jim Stewart » August 3rd, 2020, 4:08 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm
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Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
Mineralité or Liberté, Brian?
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#1377 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 3rd, 2020, 4:14 pm

Jim Stewart wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:08 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm
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Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
Mineralité or Liberté, Brian?
Mineralite. Does champagne well. I’m interested in trying the Liberte at some point but the GGG (which I have) looks very similar in size/shape.
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#1378 Post by Sean S y d n e y » August 3rd, 2020, 4:16 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm

Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
Congratulations on something that sounds very important and hard!

Never even heard of this producer.
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#1379 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 3rd, 2020, 4:20 pm

Sean S y d n e y wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:16 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm

Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
Congratulations on something that sounds very important and hard!

Never even heard of this producer.
Thanks! Me neither, took a flyer from Envoyer awhile ago.
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2017 Goodfellow Family Cellars Durant Vineyard Chardonnay
2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
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#1380 Post by Al Osterheld » August 3rd, 2020, 4:40 pm

K&L in the US sells a lot of Bonville champagne, pretty much their whole line but what is in stock tends to vary.

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#1381 Post by AD Northup » August 3rd, 2020, 5:04 pm

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2020 WsOTY:

2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

2019 WsOTY:
1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
2002 Perrier-Jouet Belle Époque
2005 Faja dos Padres Malvasia

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1382 Post by Warren Taranow » August 3rd, 2020, 10:21 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:20 pm
Sean S y d n e y wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:16 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:00 pm

Celebrating having taken my subspecialty boards with some Franck Bonville.
Congratulations on something that sounds very important and hard!

Never even heard of this producer.
Thanks! Me neither, took a flyer from Envoyer awhile ago.
Congrats! What subspecialty?

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1383 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 4th, 2020, 5:05 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 10:21 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:20 pm
Sean S y d n e y wrote:
August 3rd, 2020, 4:16 pm


Congratulations on something that sounds very important and hard!

Never even heard of this producer.
Thanks! Me neither, took a flyer from Envoyer awhile ago.
Congrats! What subspecialty?

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2020 contenders for WOTY:
2017 Goodfellow Family Cellars Durant Vineyard Chardonnay
2015 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc des Blancs Extra Brut Les Grands Crayeres
2001 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
2015 Josef Walter Hundsruck Spätburgunder "J"

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1384 Post by Michael Klein » August 4th, 2020, 8:34 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 8:37 am
Earlier this week, we opened my last NV André Clouet . I bought three of these, as they were bundled with three 1996 Phillipponant Clos des Goisses in an auction lot. I've always considered Clouet a nice fairly priced Champagne, but the bottles I have opened were wonderful. These are old bottles, based on the condition and oxidation of the foil. They were imported by The Rare Wine Company. I'm guessing they're from the nineties since RWC opened in '89, but the bottles look even older. The oxidized foil stuck to the bottle and cork, and while the cork never expanded after opening, this still had a good "pop" and a generous mousse. This would convince anyone that NV Champagne can age beautifully. It was still very lively and clean, with great complexity. Full bodied, red fruit, brioche, mushroom, and a hint of subtle hazelnut. I love it; what a nice surprise from an auction bycatch.

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Warren - just an FYI this is not the standard NV from Clouet - this is "un jour de 1911" and it's one of my absolute fav champagnes. 1911 bottles produced each year and IMO one of the most complex champagnes available at any price point. Sounds like you scored a winner!!

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1385 Post by Blake Brown » August 4th, 2020, 1:15 pm

Back in this thread, I posted some notes about 2 different bottles of the NV Billecart-Salmon Brut Sous Bois. I've also mentioned experiencing a style change in the NV Brut Rose.

On both matters, I contacted them and received some friendly, informative feedback which I just posted in a separate thread on Wine Talk.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#1386 Post by Warren Taranow » August 4th, 2020, 1:48 pm

Michael Klein wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:34 am
Warren Taranow wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 8:37 am
Earlier this week, we opened my last NV André Clouet . I bought three of these, as they were bundled with three 1996 Phillipponant Clos des Goisses in an auction lot. I've always considered Clouet a nice fairly priced Champagne, but the bottles I have opened were wonderful. These are old bottles, based on the condition and oxidation of the foil. They were imported by The Rare Wine Company. I'm guessing they're from the nineties since RWC opened in '89, but the bottles look even older. The oxidized foil stuck to the bottle and cork, and while the cork never expanded after opening, this still had a good "pop" and a generous mousse. This would convince anyone that NV Champagne can age beautifully. It was still very lively and clean, with great complexity. Full bodied, red fruit, brioche, mushroom, and a hint of subtle hazelnut. I love it; what a nice surprise from an auction bycatch.

E84ABC82-3518-4DB6-8EA2-972E9D422D5E_1_201_a.jpegIMG_8643.jpegIMG_8645.jpeg

Warren - just an FYI this is not the standard NV from Clouet - this is "un jour de 1911" and it's one of my absolute fav champagnes. 1911 bottles produced each year and IMO one of the most complex champagnes available at any price point. Sounds like you scored a winner!!
Michael,

That's great information, and it makes sense. This seemed more like an aged tête de cuvée than an old basic NV. One of the better bottles I've opened this year.

Cheers,
Warren
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