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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#651 Post by Blake Brown » June 11th, 2019, 7:22 am

Here's a beauty if you like rich and full bodied champagne that is in really good balance now and has so much potential for being a keeper for the long run:

2008 LEGRAS & HAAS BLANC de BLANC BRUT- Magnum; made from Grand Cru Chardonnay from Chouilly; this luscious wine was rich and full bodied with lots of depth and complexity to provide a complete sensory, mouth filing experience; its very robust and yet has some tameness that adds a degree of elegance; creamy lemon orange prevails along with a streak of fine acidity; its drinking quite well now and can be counted on for holding up for a few decades in magnum form especially.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#652 Post by Charlie Carnes » June 11th, 2019, 8:54 am

1997 Salon- Bought this at a restaurant. It is still holding strong. Bright, juicy, lively, creamy, apple peel, and a hint of citrus zest, with pretty mineral perceptions. This is wonderful Champagne!

Egly-Ouriet Rosé- This and Camille Saves are easily two of the best Bouzy Rosés out there today. I just copied my 3/20/2019 note: This is glowing light pink to red, with delicious full but light red berry fruit, apple skins, rose petals, toasted sweet bread, crunchy minerals, texture, creamy bubbles... delicious! I drink these as if, "the plane's going down!

Billecart Salmon Rosé- Restaurant purchase from half bottle. These are very fine in a pinch. Red fruit, with a hint of strawberry, and dusty clay road perceptions. Not as faceted as the Saves and Egly-Ouriet, but still very fine!
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#653 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » June 12th, 2019, 8:29 am

Charlie Carnes wrote:
June 11th, 2019, 8:54 am
1997 Salon- Bought this at a restaurant. It is still holding strong. Bright, juicy, lively, creamy, apple peel, and a hint of citrus zest, with pretty mineral perceptions. This is wonderful Champagne!

Egly-Ouriet Rosé- This and Camille Saves are easily two of the best Bouzy Rosés out there today. I just copied my 3/20/2019 note: This is glowing light pink to red, with delicious full but light red berry fruit, apple skins, rose petals, toasted sweet bread, crunchy minerals, texture, creamy bubbles... delicious! I drink these as if, "the plane's going down!

Billecart Salmon Rosé- Restaurant purchase from half bottle. These are very fine in a pinch. Red fruit, with a hint of strawberry, and dusty clay road perceptions. Not as faceted as the Saves and Egly-Ouriet, but still very fine!
Egly-Ouriet Rosé is special. I think of it as an Ambonnay wine, though, even though some of the grapes do come from Bouzy and Verzenay, I believe.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#654 Post by Warren Taranow » June 12th, 2019, 1:52 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 8:29 am
Charlie Carnes wrote:
June 11th, 2019, 8:54 am
1997 Salon- Bought this at a restaurant. It is still holding strong. Bright, juicy, lively, creamy, apple peel, and a hint of citrus zest, with pretty mineral perceptions. This is wonderful Champagne!

Egly-Ouriet Rosé- This and Camille Saves are easily two of the best Bouzy Rosés out there today. I just copied my 3/20/2019 note: This is glowing light pink to red, with delicious full but light red berry fruit, apple skins, rose petals, toasted sweet bread, crunchy minerals, texture, creamy bubbles... delicious! I drink these as if, "the plane's going down!

Billecart Salmon Rosé- Restaurant purchase from half bottle. These are very fine in a pinch. Red fruit, with a hint of strawberry, and dusty clay road perceptions. Not as faceted as the Saves and Egly-Ouriet, but still very fine!
Egly-Ouriet Rosé is special. I think of it as an Ambonnay wine, though, even though some of the grapes do come from Bouzy and Verzenay, I believe.
I love both the E-O and Saves rosés. The Saves is a lot less $, at least from my sources.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#655 Post by Frank Murray III » June 15th, 2019, 6:33 pm

From tonight, with Indian food.
  • 2012 Nathalie Falmet Champagne Terra, Blanc des Blancs - France, Champagne (6/15/2019)
    My second of two. Disgorged Sept 2017, 100% Chard and 1 g/l of dosage. I has a mixed feeling on the previous bottle, as I thought the wine was lean and tight. This one is similar, as it has structure, a minerally kind of thing, competing with the fruit that is here. I don't mind this racier expression, provided there is fruit to back it up. There is fruit here, which comes through as juicy apple, lime/grapefruit and a drizzle of honey before the structure kicks in. This is not on the same plane as Marguet Les Bermonts or Marie-Courtin Eloquence, which are both 100% Chard, farmed clean like Falmet, and no dosage. Those wines for me, especially the latter, bring fruit/balance to the overall texture and resulting wine, whereas this Falmet is just struggling some to find a bit more fruit, or perhaps given the other components, maybe a touch more dosage, dare I say that. Good, not great.
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#656 Post by Merrill Lindquist » June 16th, 2019, 8:08 am

Bereche & Fils Brut Reserve (disgorged 01/19)
Louis Roederer Rose 2012
Philipponnat Royale Reserve Brut (vintage base 2014)
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#657 Post by Warren Taranow » June 16th, 2019, 1:20 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 8:08 am
Louis Roederer Rose 2012
Hi Merrill,
I also opened this last night. I love the mix of intense red berries and citrus, but I think its apogee is a long way off.
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#658 Post by Merrill Lindquist » June 16th, 2019, 5:36 pm

Warren Taranow wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 1:20 pm
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 8:08 am
Louis Roederer Rose 2012
Hi Merrill,
I also opened this last night. I love the mix of intense red berries and citrus, but I think its apogee is a long way off.
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#659 Post by Yao C » June 18th, 2019, 9:17 am

2012 Jean Milan Terres de Noel BdB

Spent a lovely summer evening with this bottle watching the Willamette River go by. Jean Milan's best holding in Oger with 70 year old vines. All finesse and balance in a charming, lighter aperitif style. Pear and yeast and a real sense of freshness without any enamel-stripping pucker. Then surprising weight on the mid-palate that hints at a lot of promise for the future. Next bottle in 10 years! Good plus with upside
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#660 Post by Warren Taranow » June 19th, 2019, 9:26 pm

Which Champagne am I NOT drinking? The horribly corked 2004 Pol Roger Champagne Vintage Brut I brought to the restaurant tonight. I ordered a NV Delamotte Brut off the menu, and it was an adequate but not exceptional replacement. Nice mouse and creamy mouthfeel, a little biscuit, grapefruit on the nose.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#661 Post by Mike Evans » June 20th, 2019, 6:05 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
June 19th, 2019, 9:26 pm
Which Champagne am I NOT drinking? The horribly corked 2004 Pol Roger Champagne Vintage Brut I brought to the restaurant tonight. I ordered a NV Delamotte Brut off the menu, and it was an adequate but not exceptional replacement. Nice mouse and creamy mouthfeel, a little biscuit, grapefruit on the nose.
Ouch. Not intending to rub salt in your wounds, but I much preferred a 2004 Pol Roger to 2008 Dom Perignon and 2006 Veuve Grande Dame last week. The DP and Grande Dame were both quite nice, but I couldn’t get enough of the nutty, bready richness but with terrific verve delivered by the Pol Roger.

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#662 Post by Warren Taranow » June 20th, 2019, 6:22 am

Mike Evans wrote:
June 20th, 2019, 6:05 am
Warren Taranow wrote:
June 19th, 2019, 9:26 pm
Which Champagne am I NOT drinking? The horribly corked 2004 Pol Roger Champagne Vintage Brut I brought to the restaurant tonight. I ordered a NV Delamotte Brut off the menu, and it was an adequate but not exceptional replacement. Nice mouse and creamy mouthfeel, a little biscuit, grapefruit on the nose.
Ouch. Not intending to rub salt in your wounds, but I much preferred a 2004 Pol Roger to 2008 Dom Perignon and 2006 Veuve Grande Dame last week. The DP and Grande Dame were both quite nice, but I couldn’t get enough of the nutty, bready richness but with terrific verve delivered by the Pol Roger.
Mike,
All is not lost; I think I have a couple more. I hadn't opened one since 2015. It was good then. I'm happy to see your note confirming it's gotten even better with time.
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#663 Post by alan weinberg » June 20th, 2019, 8:43 pm

gonna drink an 08 Guy Larmandier Signe François VV based on chet’s rec—tomorrow.

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#664 Post by Russ Williams » June 21st, 2019, 7:34 am

alan weinberg wrote:
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gonna drink an 08 Guy Larmandier Signe François VV based on chet’s rec—tomorrow.
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#665 Post by bob parsons alberta » June 21st, 2019, 9:58 pm

Saturday night, will get the chance to taste La Rogerie..looking forward to it! Hope I can post this link?

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#666 Post by Frank Murray III » June 23rd, 2019, 8:35 am

From last night. Paid $50 for this at Envoyer, FWIW. Dig it.
  • 2012 Nathalie Falmet Champagne Tentation Rosée - France, Champagne (6/23/2019)
    First of three bottles. Disgorged June 2018, 5 g/l with a 50/50 blend of PN/PM. The color on this is ruby, almost like a red wine. Consistent with the color, the wine itself has a texture and build of a red wine, too. Deep flavor of cherry, with a density that reminds me more of drinking Pinot that is still. While there is acidity here, which seemed to blossom as the wine aired, it does not show any of the lime skin or citrus that I find in a lot of Rose bubbly, but instead just a more powerful acid imprint. The wine also seemed to go still more quickly too, shedding off a lot of the CO2 more rapidly. And even with the dosage level of 5, I don't sense any of it, as it's well integrated with the parts. Overall, this is a cool, unique Rose, finishing with some chalky structure and good presence. Really enjoyed this.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#667 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » June 24th, 2019, 11:48 am

Over the past week:

1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires
2002 Gosset Celebris Extra Brut

Both were superb. Regrettably, it was my last bottle of the '95 Heidsieck. Awaiting arrival of the 2004s.

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#668 Post by Russ Williams » June 24th, 2019, 11:54 am

Andrew A r n t f i e l d wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 11:48 am
Over the past week:

1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires
2002 Gosset Celebris Extra Brut

Both were superb. Regrettably, it was my last bottle of the '95 Heidsieck. Awaiting arrival of the 2004s.
Envoyer just offered the 2004 today. The price however is $139.
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#669 Post by Warren Taranow » June 24th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Andrew A r n t f i e l d wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 11:48 am
Over the past week:

1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires - Superb

Regrettably, it was my last bottle of the '95 Heidsieck. Awaiting arrival of the 2004s.
I drank one with an old friend on Saturday and concur; it's superb. I fell for this wine five or six years ago, despite reading several notes opining it was good rather than great. Over the next several years, I reloaded and purchased nearly 3 cases. I'm down to my last 4 or 5 bottles. I'm also waiting on the '04, but with the price increase, I won't buy nearly as many. I've read it's very different than the '95.

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#670 Post by Steve Nordhoff » June 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

08 Hebrart Special Club- nervy, dense and young. Excellent
06 Vilmart Grand Rubis-floral, suave and just hitting its stride. Also excellent.
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#671 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » June 24th, 2019, 2:08 pm

Since last Tuesday -

'82 Dom Perignon - perfectly mature. Oysters, crudo and '82 DP is a trio that is close to perfection. Staggering Plus

Krug Grande Cuvee - '96 Base - can you get a better NV than this? Entering a mature phase with a couple of decades of great drinking to go. Staggering Minus

'96 Dom Perignon - if this continues to mature and develop as it has the past ten years it may rival the '82 and the great vintages of DP from earlier decades. Staggering

'88 Henriot Cuvee Enchanteleurs Mag - my favorite vintage of this Champagne in my favorite format. Staggering

'75 Veuve Clicquot - while previous bottles consumed 10+ years ago provided great pleasure, this bottle should have been opened with those too. Long in the tooth. Good minus

NV Eric Rodez Zero Dosage Disgorged 2017 - I'm not on the no dosage bandwagon, but this was definitely enjoyable. Some oxidative notes but balanced by crisp acidity. Excellent Minus.
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#672 Post by Kris Patten » June 24th, 2019, 8:42 pm

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 2:08 pm
'88 Henriot Cuvee Enchanteleurs Mag - my favorite vintage of this Champagne in my favorite format. Staggering
I still have one of these in cellar in magnum, any special treatment?

As for my latest, finally got a 2008 Dom Perignon, very linear and clean, very bright acidity. Will hunt down some more.
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#673 Post by Yao C » June 24th, 2019, 10:02 pm

1985 Jacquesson Degorgement Tardif: disgorged 2010; a promising, tantalizingly forward mature nose, all honeyed and yeasty with a touch of lemon, which combines nicely with the creamy mousse; then crushing disappointment as the palate drops out and you’re left with shrill acidity and not enough substance to balance it; left in a decanter for several hours and it filled out some but never quite came good; decent plus
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#674 Post by Jay Miller » June 25th, 2019, 7:34 am

2004 Pol Roger Winston Churchill was tight, tight, tight. After two hours open it displayed an impressive degree of chalkiness, minerality and acidity but IMO needs at least 5 years to start loosening up. A recent 2006 was much more enjoyable though I think I'll probably prefer this over the long term.
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#675 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » June 25th, 2019, 8:34 am

Kris Patten wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 8:42 pm
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 2:08 pm
'88 Henriot Cuvee Enchanteleurs Mag - my favorite vintage of this Champagne in my favorite format. Staggering
I still have one of these in cellar in magnum, any special treatment?
Nothing too special; opened it about 45 minutes prior to serving.
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#676 Post by Brad Baker » June 25th, 2019, 8:53 am

Yao C wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 10:02 pm
1985 Jacquesson Degorgement Tardif: disgorged 2010; a promising, tantalizingly forward mature nose, all honeyed and yeasty with a touch of lemon, which combines nicely with the creamy mousse; then crushing disappointment as the palate drops out and you’re left with shrill acidity and not enough substance to balance it; left in a decanter for several hours and it filled out some but never quite came good; decent plus
Yao,

Bottle or magnum? The magnums were late disgorged 1985 BdB while the bottles were late disgorged 1985 Perfection Millesime. The bottles have always been not quite right to me, but the magnums were nice though still not thrilling.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#677 Post by Yao C » June 25th, 2019, 10:35 am

Brad Baker wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 8:53 am
Yao C wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 10:02 pm
1985 Jacquesson Degorgement Tardif: disgorged 2010; a promising, tantalizingly forward mature nose, all honeyed and yeasty with a touch of lemon, which combines nicely with the creamy mousse; then crushing disappointment as the palate drops out and you’re left with shrill acidity and not enough substance to balance it; left in a decanter for several hours and it filled out some but never quite came good; decent plus
Yao,

Bottle or magnum? The magnums were late disgorged 1985 BdB while the bottles were late disgorged 1985 Perfection Millesime. The bottles have always been not quite right to me, but the magnums were nice though still not thrilling.
Bottle

Have you liked other vintages? I'm not very familiar with Jacquesson and this was a toe in the water for me
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#678 Post by Russ Williams » June 25th, 2019, 11:09 am

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June 23rd, 2019, 8:35 am
From last night. Paid $50 for this at Envoyer, FWIW. Dig it.
  • 2012 Nathalie Falmet Champagne Tentation Rosée - France, Champagne (6/23/2019)
    First of three bottles. Disgorged June 2018, 5 g/l with a 50/50 blend of PN/PM. The color on this is ruby, almost like a red wine. Consistent with the color, the wine itself has a texture and build of a red wine, too. Deep flavor of cherry, with a density that reminds me more of drinking Pinot that is still. While there is acidity here, which seemed to blossom as the wine aired, it does not show any of the lime skin or citrus that I find in a lot of Rose bubbly, but instead just a more powerful acid imprint. The wine also seemed to go still more quickly too, shedding off a lot of the CO2 more rapidly. And even with the dosage level of 5, I don't sense any of it, as it's well integrated with the parts. Overall, this is a cool, unique Rose, finishing with some chalky structure and good presence. Really enjoyed this.
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#679 Post by Frank Murray III » June 25th, 2019, 11:59 am

Russ, glad to help. For $50, I liked this wine. I picked up another yesterday for this weekend, as I am helping host a party for a friend of mine. It will allow me to try it again and pen down another impression, too. I wasn't aware Greg was going to re-offer it so my note was coincidental.
My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#680 Post by Blair Ridley » June 25th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Have a Deutz NV on tap in the next hour or so. Gonna visit the winery in a couple of weeks. Love their stuff!

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#681 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » June 25th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Russ Williams wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 11:54 am
Andrew A r n t f i e l d wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 11:48 am
Over the past week:

1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires
2002 Gosset Celebris Extra Brut

Both were superb. Regrettably, it was my last bottle of the '95 Heidsieck. Awaiting arrival of the 2004s.
Envoyer just offered the 2004 today. The price however is $139.
That was Envoyer's second go-round on the 2004, Russ. They originally offered it last November at $129.99 and I grabbed a bunch then.

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#682 Post by Brad Baker » June 25th, 2019, 4:08 pm

Yao C wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:35 am
Brad Baker wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 8:53 am
Yao C wrote:
June 24th, 2019, 10:02 pm
1985 Jacquesson Degorgement Tardif: disgorged 2010; a promising, tantalizingly forward mature nose, all honeyed and yeasty with a touch of lemon, which combines nicely with the creamy mousse; then crushing disappointment as the palate drops out and you’re left with shrill acidity and not enough substance to balance it; left in a decanter for several hours and it filled out some but never quite came good; decent plus
Yao,

Bottle or magnum? The magnums were late disgorged 1985 BdB while the bottles were late disgorged 1985 Perfection Millesime. The bottles have always been not quite right to me, but the magnums were nice though still not thrilling.
Bottle

Have you liked other vintages? I'm not very familiar with Jacquesson and this was a toe in the water for me
It really depends on what the wine is. Their better DT wines tended to be a late release vintage BdB or Signature. The DTs that were vintage Perfection are more hit or miss for me. Jacquesson now does a much better job at telling you exactly what is in their late disgorged bottles, but with most of the wines pre-1995 it can still be a guess in some years. The non-dose approach in a lot of the DT bottlings also isn't always the best choice IMO. I usually prefer their original releases with age over the DT series.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#683 Post by Yao C » June 25th, 2019, 4:42 pm

Brad Baker wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 4:08 pm
Yao C wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:35 am
Brad Baker wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 8:53 am


Yao,

Bottle or magnum? The magnums were late disgorged 1985 BdB while the bottles were late disgorged 1985 Perfection Millesime. The bottles have always been not quite right to me, but the magnums were nice though still not thrilling.
Bottle

Have you liked other vintages? I'm not very familiar with Jacquesson and this was a toe in the water for me
It really depends on what the wine is. Their better DT wines tended to be a late release vintage BdB or Signature. The DTs that were vintage Perfection are more hit or miss for me. Jacquesson now does a much better job at telling you exactly what is in their late disgorged bottles, but with most of the wines pre-1995 it can still be a guess in some years. The non-dose approach in a lot of the DT bottlings also isn't always the best choice IMO. I usually prefer their original releases with age over the DT series.
Thank you Brad! My husband and I both love BdB so we might seek one out and give it a shot
C h 0 o n 6

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