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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#601 Post by Neal.Mollen » May 8th, 2019, 5:06 am

Brad Baker wrote:
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damn, this 2009 is excellent.
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
    Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.
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Great post and it shows what you can do when you own your own vineyards and follow good, clean, sustainable farming practices (along with clean, pure winemaking). Size doesn't matter, owning your own land and doing your own farming in a proper way does. Most of the more well known negociants (Moet, Veuve, Bollinger, Taittinger, Charles Heidsieck, Krug, etc...) actually do this with their own vineyards, but when you have to purchase 50-70% of your grape supply, things get more complicated and fall apart. Roederer shows what is possible when you are 'big' and control your own destiny.
I have already sung the praises of the 2009. Outstanding, inspiring wine. The kind of wine that stops conversation.

Given the price difference I see no reason to buy the 08; the 09 is so superlative.

On a completely different level, we had the Gosset Champagne Brut Grande Réserve out of 375 the other night. Not a great champagne but a good one, and it is so darn cute in what looks like a beer bottle.

I have always been reluctant to buy champagne in 375s because I have heard tell that it suffers from the format but I have to say that based on recent experience I get plenty of pleasure from them and will be looking for more.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#602 Post by Vince T » May 8th, 2019, 5:50 am

Not a Champagne per se, but I had a really interesting bubbly from England this past weekened. Definitely worth trying if you're looking for something off the beaten path. I only gave it an 89, but I keep thinking about it so perhaps it merits an upgrade:
  • NV Ridgeview Fitzrovia Rosé - United Kingdom, England, Sussex, West Sussex (5/4/2019)
    Intensely savory and chalky rose bubbly. Mouthwateringly savory - almost the sensation of being salty. Fine mousse, medium yeasty, with delicate pink (watermelon, strawberry) fruit. Not much fruit at all, if that’s your jam. A bit of a clipped finish, with lots of saline-iodine. Went superbly with sushi. (89 pts.)
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#603 Post by ky1em!ttskus » May 8th, 2019, 8:24 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
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On a completely different level, we had the Gosset Champagne Brut Grande Réserve out of 375 the other night. Not a great champagne but a good one, and it is so darn cute in what looks like a beer bottle.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#604 Post by alan weinberg » May 8th, 2019, 6:58 pm

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Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?
2 bottles made me find more. 2000 vintage. No notes but loved it. As for B-S rosé, I age it 5 years and then drink. Gains a lot.
How do you age your B-S? 5 years from purchase? As far as I’m aware, they don’t offer disgorgement info
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#605 Post by Warren Taranow » May 9th, 2019, 9:43 pm

NV Krug Champagne Brut Grande Cuvée Edition 164eme
A nice foil to the boisterous '06 Taittinger Comte. While explosive, young, and delicious, the harmony and balance are the most attractive features.

2006 Taittinger Champagne Brut Blanc de Blancs Comtes de Champagne
As rambunctious as ever. Lemon curd and orange peel, brioche and cream. Stunningly textured. I thought it would pale following the Krug 164 eme. However, it held its ground with a distinctive character and a powerful presence.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#606 Post by Eric Sch » May 10th, 2019, 9:08 am

Flying to Michigan today with a bottle of Vilmart Cuvee Rubis to share with my Mom. After 45 years they are selling the house I grew up in, and purchasing a condo less than half the size. Mom has done amazing work on the business side to get the house sold, and also to simplify their life by selling decades of collected stuff. I know it was hard and I'm super proud of her, so we'll drink some good bubbs to celebrate.

And then she can put me to work moving boxes and changing out lock sets, etc. champagne.gif
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#607 Post by Warren Taranow » May 10th, 2019, 9:13 pm

2008 Pierre Gimonnet & Fils Champagne Premier Cru Extra Brut Oenophile
Crisp. Green apple and citrus. Better with air, and with food. Good price, nothing wrong here, but I personally won't buy this again. A wine that makes me to strike the "Neutral" like button on CT, although I seem to be in an unimpressed minority.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#608 Post by Frank Murray III » May 11th, 2019, 7:35 pm

  • 2008 Minière F & R Champagne Absolu Blanc De Blancs Brut - France, Champagne (5/11/2019)
    The bottle tonight was not served blind. It was terrific. The lemon was bright and the texture was delicious with good energy. Way better than the bottle last October, and now thinking about I could have locked in some of this around that time, too. Really drinking good at this stage.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#609 Post by Warren Taranow » May 14th, 2019, 9:56 pm

2004 Camille Savés Grand Cru Cuvée Anaïs Jolicoeur. This is in a very good place right now. Creamy red fruit, early mature notes. This turned out to be a superb impulsive auction purchase.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#610 Post by Mike Hawkins » May 16th, 2019, 12:52 am

Warren Taranow wrote:
May 14th, 2019, 9:56 pm
2004 Camille Savés Grand Cru Cuvée Anaïs Jolicoeur. This is in a very good place right now. Creamy red fruit, early mature notes. This turned out to be a superb impulsive auction purchase.
I bought a case from the winery at release. Sounds like it’s time to try one

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#611 Post by Scott Watkins » May 16th, 2019, 8:07 pm

2013 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Bouzy with fried chicken and some watermelon. 77% Pinot noir 23% Chardonnay disgorged May 2018. Never been a big fan of zero dosage but this wine is just fantastic.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#612 Post by Frank Murray III » May 17th, 2019, 7:21 am

Scott Watkins wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 8:07 pm
2013 Marguet Champagne Grand Cru Bouzy with fried chicken and some watermelon. 77% Pinot noir 23% Chardonnay disgorged May 2018. Never been a big fan of zero dosage but this wine is just fantastic.
Atta boy, Scott. I have the 13 Marguet Shaman in the queue now, too. I bought those for $34 each from HDH last XMAS when they had their sale. I felt like I was stealing those.

Jill's biz partner is having his annual Champagne event tomorrow at his house. I think 10 bottles open so I'll have some notes to bring back here. champagne.gif
My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

My best wines of 2018:
2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#613 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am

Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#614 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#615 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.

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#616 Post by Merrill Lindquist » May 17th, 2019, 10:08 am

Brad Baker wrote:
April 23rd, 2019, 6:54 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
April 22nd, 2019, 8:43 pm
damn, this 2009 is excellent.
  • 2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
    Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.
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Frank,

Great post and it shows what you can do when you own your own vineyards and follow good, clean, sustainable farming practices (along with clean, pure winemaking). Size doesn't matter, owning your own land and doing your own farming in a proper way does. Most of the more well known negociants (Moet, Veuve, Bollinger, Taittinger, Charles Heidsieck, Krug, etc...) actually do this with their own vineyards, but when you have to purchase 50-70% of your grape supply, things get more complicated and fall apart. Roederer shows what is possible when you are 'big' and control your own destiny.
And Brad, that is a great post that you just made. champagne.gif
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#617 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » May 17th, 2019, 2:21 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:49 am
Today is my 5 year anniversary. We have a bottle of 1973 Dom Perignon on ice right now while my husband goes to fetch fried chicken. I'll report back. :)
Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.
So our bottle of '73 Dom turned out to be good, not outstanding. Probably opened up at about a B and got to B+ level ultimately. Still some fizz left, no apple cider oxidation, nice mature champagne elements, just a little bit tired. Oh well - I'm a year old than it is, and I'm a little bit tired sometimes, too. It was still a treat.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#618 Post by Scott Watkins » May 17th, 2019, 5:28 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 2:21 pm
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:30 am
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 8:23 am


Congrats!

'73 is my favorite DP vintage from the 1970's.
Thanks Ray! I've only had it once and it was great. Fingers crossed. The bottle looks great.
So our bottle of '73 Dom turned out to be good, not outstanding. Probably opened up at about a B and got to B+ level ultimately. Still some fizz left, no apple cider oxidation, nice mature champagne elements, just a little bit tired. Oh well - I'm a year old than it is, and I'm a little bit tired sometimes, too. It was still a treat.
Okay but how was the fried chicken? [cheers.gif]
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#619 Post by Al Osterheld » May 17th, 2019, 8:20 pm

Happy Anniversary, Sarah. Pity it wasn't a top-notch bottle, but sounds like it was quite nice.

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#620 Post by Frank Murray III » May 19th, 2019, 10:23 am

Damn, the Marie-Courtin Eloquence is fantastic stuff. As much as I am running out of cellar space again, I need to go buy a few more of these. It's now really performed outstanding for me on two occasions and is my Champagne of the year to date. Amazing.
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My WOTY candidates for 2019:
2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Ridge SC PN
2017 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Platt SC PN
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#621 Post by brigcampbell » May 19th, 2019, 1:44 pm

My sporadic notes from Paultacular
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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#622 Post by Warren Taranow » May 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm

brigcampbell wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 1:44 pm
My sporadic notes from Paultacular
These were available for a song for a long time, and I've drunk through many. I've heard numerous times it's a good wine. For the price, to my palate, it's a great wine. It also led me to buy a bunch of the NV Cuvée Noble Rose without tasting, and I'm very glad I did.
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[*]2006 Taittinger Champagne Brut Blanc de Blancs Comtes de Champagne - France, Champagne (5/19/2019)
It's like flipping a coin, will Comtes show up or something uninspiring? From a magnum so I'm really rooting for this bottle. Plus it's the opening act for a huge champagne line up. Very fine bubbles. Sulphur and flint nose. Light oak, rich yellow fruit and soft mouthfeel. Lemon lime finish but not tart, slightly sweet. Good bottle
I've always liked this, and have opened far too many. Most were fantastic, with a couple merely very good

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May 19th, 2019, 1:44 pm
[*]NV Georges Laval Champagne Garennes - France, Champagne (5/19/2019)
Least favorite of the lineup. Very angular and acid is the focus. That's usually not a problem for me but it lacks the fruit to balance out the corners.
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I've had similar experiences with Laval; one more bottle that I'll let sleep a long time

Thanks for the notes, gentlemen!

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Re: Which Champagne are you drinking?

#623 Post by Russ Williams » May 19th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 10:23 am
Damn, the Marie-Courtin Eloquence is fantastic stuff. As much as I am running out of cellar space again, I need to go buy a few more of these. It's now really performed outstanding for me on two occasions and is my Champagne of the year to date. Amazing.
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It’s a shame the Marie Courtin wines are so hard to find state side. Let me know if you find more of the Eloquence.
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