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#51 Post by JRGraham » May 1st, 2016, 5:56 pm

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#52 Post by Blake Brown » May 2nd, 2016, 1:27 am

calauber wrote:The ultimate praise (am I right?) is being hesitant to post said praise. Jaffurs SB County Syrah '13 meets that standard. (I'm going to wish I hadn't written this.)
In a blind tasting recently, this wine came in toward the top and it was paired against some much more renown and single vineyard wines that are twice the cost. Craig has done a masterful job in blending some of the good sources he accesses into something that is of high quality and still a great QPR.
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#53 Post by Blake Brown » May 2nd, 2016, 1:29 am

J. Singleton wrote:For $17 it's hard to beat the ABC SB County Pinot noir
Totally agree and with the following spot re the Chardonnay. They show really well in their youth and actually have some staying power to run for many years down the line.
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#54 Post by Blake Brown » May 2nd, 2016, 1:32 am

Michael Martin wrote:2005 Jaffurs Upslope. Can't get much better than this.
Another winner on a consistent basis. IMHO, it`s worth the price level.
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#55 Post by Blake Brown » May 2nd, 2016, 1:41 am

Now, to address the request of this thread, I have a significant amount of wines from ABC [and associated labels], Qupe, Whitcraft, Palmina and Brewer-Clifton, all of which I`m drinking on a relatively frequent basis.

To a lesser extent, I have Arcadian, Foxen, Babcock, Longoria, Jaffurs, Lato and Brander wines that are in the cellar and enjoyed from time to time.
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#56 Post by Michael Martin » June 20th, 2016, 5:46 pm

'13 Jaffurs Upslope. Classic. Drinks well now, but this one will be awesome in 5-7 years. Right up there with some of the best CA Syrahs.

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#57 Post by Blake Brown » June 20th, 2016, 7:56 pm

Michael Martin wrote:'13 Jaffurs Upslope. Classic. Drinks well now, but this one will be awesome in 5-7 years. Right up there with some of the best CA Syrahs.
I`m impressed you discovered this gem. It is a pride and joy of Craig Jaffurs and represents the best of the best from especially the Thompson Vineyard which he has been sourcing for over 10 years now. Upslope is a notch above all other Jaffur`s fine wines.
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#58 Post by Blake Brown » June 21st, 2016, 10:10 am

Recent gems from ABC:

2006 Elke Vineyard Pinot Noir
2010 Elke Vineyard Pinot Noir [under Ici La Bas label]
2008 Nielson Vineyard Pinot Noir
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#59 Post by lleichtman » June 21st, 2016, 12:50 pm

Jaffurs
Casa Dumetz
Stolpman
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#60 Post by Michael Martin » June 21st, 2016, 12:52 pm

lleichtman wrote:Jaffurs
Casa Dumetz
Stolpman
Sandhi
Have you tried the '13 Stolpman Estate Syrah? I bought one for $22 at my LWS. Smashing QPR.

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#61 Post by Eric S n y d e r » June 21st, 2016, 1:16 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
lleichtman wrote:Jaffurs
Casa Dumetz
Stolpman
Sandhi
Have you tried the '13 Stolpman Estate Syrah? I bought one for $22 at my LWS. Smashing QPR.
That Stolpman Syrah hangs with a lot of other $40 SBC Syrahs, and I really love their Hilltops and Originals bottlings.

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#62 Post by Michael Martin » June 26th, 2016, 4:49 pm

2014 Jaffurs Grenache Blanc. Bright acidity with pear and honeysuckle. Very good.

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#63 Post by Jonathan Grunzweig » June 26th, 2016, 8:08 pm

2010 Piedrasassi Syrah. I buy Piedrasassi every time I see it, and a restaurant had this at retail pricing. A pure and powerful expression of cool climate Syrah, with intense flavors of dark fruit, space and herbs. Just entering its prime drinking window, which should last a decade if not more.

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#64 Post by Eric S n y d e r » June 27th, 2016, 9:47 am

Lots of great wine up there! For me, Foxen was the first wine club I signed up for on my 21st birthday wine tasting trip so there's quite a bit of nostalgia attached to that one.
I still love their Syrahs, like their Pinots, like their whites, love their Rose of Mourverdre. Not a great QPR, but there it is.
Stolpman is extremely solid on their Syrah.
Jaffurs is great.
Melville is awesome.
Lots more that I haven't tried.

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#65 Post by Michael Martin » June 27th, 2016, 5:28 pm

2015 Tercero Aberration. Grenache, Cinsault and Mourvèdre. Larry nailed this one. I wanted something more than a rose', but not so far as a medium or big red. Perfect summer sipper served chilled. Would probably make a good Thanksgiving wine too.

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#66 Post by larry schaffer » June 29th, 2016, 9:14 am

    Michael Martin wrote:2015 Tercero Aberration. Grenache, Cinsault and Mourvèdre. Larry nailed this one. I wanted something more than a rose', but not so far as a medium or big red. Perfect summer sipper served chilled. Would probably make a good Thanksgiving wine too.
    Michael,

    Thanks for the note. This has been such a fun wine from beginning to end - and can't wait to see how it develops over the next few months!

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    #67 Post by K. Steward » July 16th, 2016, 7:21 am

    Michael Martin wrote:
    lleichtman wrote:Jaffurs
    Casa Dumetz
    Stolpman
    Sandhi
    Have you tried the '13 Stolpman Estate Syrah? I bought one for $22 at my LWS. Smashing QPR.
    FYI It's on sale now at Wine Library through their Instagram deal site for $21.12 with free shipping on 1. Too good of a deal to pass up, bought a few myself. This wine is good young but is really great with some age.
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    #68 Post by vincentz » July 16th, 2016, 9:22 am

    12 Mail Road Pinot Carmel- delicious wine with balance of fruits (raspberry most prominent) and acid. Air for an hour or so, then enjoyed over 2-2.5 while keeping cool. The flavors of raspberry maintained, earth came in and nose gave off some rose aroma. Happy to have 1 more for 2018/19.
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    #69 Post by Carlton McCrindle » July 16th, 2016, 9:27 am

    At this time? Tercero and Refugio Ranch.

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    #70 Post by Michael Martin » August 11th, 2016, 7:20 am

    2014 Ojai Santa Barbara County Syrah. Loads of pepper and a nice early drinker. Good QPR.

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    #71 Post by Peter Petersen » August 11th, 2016, 8:25 am

    Jaffurs, Viognier at Bouchon. Classic Viog. I definitely need to source some of that.

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    #72 Post by larry schaffer » August 11th, 2016, 9:52 am

    Peter,

    Still in the area? You can stop in at Jaffurs directly and pick some up - or get some most likely at Whole Foods or Lazy Acres. Or in your area, stop in at the Wine House - they usually have some.

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    #73 Post by Peter Petersen » August 11th, 2016, 10:26 am

    Larry, Thanks. We only stopped for an anniversary dinner last Sat on the way home from SCM.
    Winehouse is out as is the Jaffurs website and K&L.

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    #74 Post by Michael Martin » August 16th, 2016, 8:19 am

    Nice mention of a bunch of SB County wines including Tercero and Jaffurs.

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    #75 Post by Michael Martin » August 16th, 2016, 6:10 pm

    '11 Jaffurs Bien Nacido Syrah. Cheers Craig Jaffurs!

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    #76 Post by jnbrown » August 27th, 2016, 8:23 pm

    Michael Martin wrote:2014 Ojai Santa Barbara County Syrah. Loads of pepper and a nice early drinker. Good QPR.
    We had this out for dinner at a local restaurant / wine shop.
    I took forever in selecting a wine and ended with this almost by chance and our waiter said it was good.
    I agree with your assessment, great stuff. We bought the last bottle they had on the shelf and then picked up some more at K&L as we were up in L.A. last week. We had visited Ojai's tasting room a few years ago and wasn't really impressed but this has changed my thinking. I think John Sebastiano vineyard has great potential. When we visited Herman Story last year the only wine we liked and bought was his John Sebastiano syrah.
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    #77 Post by Steve Anderson » August 27th, 2016, 9:08 pm

    Riesling:

    2012 Tatomer Vandenberg - By the Glass option for lunch at AOC in LA today. Nice minerality, touch of acid, lemon and orange peel. Great balance.

    2014 Solminer Kick On Ranch - At home from bottle. Undeniably Riesling on the nose with a subtle hint of petrol. Bone dry, with acid very prominent at the moment. Better with food in the near term.

    Preferred the Tatomer more, but the Solminer is just a pup and will probably integrate more when it has the bottle age the Tatomer had.

    I've been very impressed with what Tatomer and Solminer are doing with Rieslings and Gruner. Also looking forward to trying Solminer's new Blaufrankisch.

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    #78 Post by Michael Martin » October 13th, 2016, 5:16 pm

    '12 Jaffurs Grenache. Great vintage. Raspberry, strawberry and pepper.

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    #79 Post by Michael Martin » October 16th, 2016, 6:14 pm

    2013 Jaffurs' High Tide. Talk about an under the radar wine. Mourvèdre, Grenache dominated blend with a bit of Syrah thrown in. Cherry cola, black tea, white pepper with a brown sugar finish. Great complexity, great wine.

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    #80 Post by Chris Johnson » October 16th, 2016, 6:58 pm

    We've been drinking the 2012 Kessler Haak Ohana as a daily drinker around here. Costco has that and the 14 estate Chard for 18.99. The Chardonnay has been nice, but the Pinot at that price has been lights out.

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    #81 Post by Bryan Price » August 14th, 2018, 6:41 pm

    Chris Johnson wrote:
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    We've been drinking the 2012 Kessler Haak Ohana as a daily drinker around here. Costco has that and the 14 estate Chard for 18.99. The Chardonnay has been nice, but the Pinot at that price has been lights out.
    The Ohana was a steal at that price!
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    #82 Post by larry schaffer » August 14th, 2018, 7:45 pm

    Dan is a great guy - and has sold a tiny selection of his wines to some Costcos in the past. Not sure that he is still doing so - and I'd be surprised if he is. He has a tasting room before you get to the Home Depot in Lompoc - well worth hitting the next time you are in the area . . .
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    #83 Post by Matt Mauldin » August 14th, 2018, 8:03 pm

    I went to Brewer Clifton and Foxen over the weekend. It's a great time to revisit both of these producers.
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    #84 Post by Peter Petersen » August 16th, 2018, 1:49 pm

    Need to make a dedicated trip up there. It's been way too long.

    A few good Ojai PNs recently:
    2011 Solomon Hills. Shows very dark and intense without being overblown. Might need a few more years to settle down.

    2010 Bien Nacido. Amazingly complicated aromas of spices, flowers, and red fruit. Perfection on the palate. This is a seriously good wine.

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    #85 Post by Michael Martin » August 16th, 2018, 2:08 pm

    Peter Petersen wrote:
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    Need to make a dedicated trip up there. It's been way too long.

    A few good Ojai PNs recently:
    2011 Solomon Hills. Shows very dark and intense without being overblown. Might need a few more years to settle down.

    2010 Bien Nacido. Amazingly complicated aromas of spices, flowers, and red fruit. Perfection on the palate. This is a seriously good wine.
    Bien Nacido is probably the most consistent vineyard I have had wines from, no matter the producer. They are always good, sometimes spectacular.

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    #86 Post by larry schaffer » August 16th, 2018, 5:07 pm

    One of the 'challenges' of Bien Nacido is that it is a huge vineyard with so many different blocks with different clones and different vine ages . . .

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    #87 Post by Steve Anderson » August 16th, 2018, 11:02 pm

    larry schaffer wrote:
    August 14th, 2018, 7:45 pm
    Dan is a great guy - and has sold a tiny selection of his wines to some Costcos in the past. Not sure that he is still doing so - and I'd be surprised if he is. He has a tasting room before you get to the Home Depot in Lompoc - well worth hitting the next time you are in the area . . .
    I still see K-H at Costco. Carmel Mtn Ranch (San Diego) Costco had a KH Pinot last week. Didn't check closely, but I believe it was the Ohana.

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    #88 Post by Blake Brown » August 17th, 2018, 8:55 am

    Michael Martin wrote:
    August 16th, 2018, 2:08 pm
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    Need to make a dedicated trip up there. It's been way too long.

    A few good Ojai PNs recently:
    2011 Solomon Hills. Shows very dark and intense without being overblown. Might need a few more years to settle down.

    2010 Bien Nacido. Amazingly complicated aromas of spices, flowers, and red fruit. Perfection on the palate. This is a seriously good wine.
    Bien Nacido is probably the most consistent vineyard I have had wines from, no matter the producer. They are always good, sometimes spectacular.
    Totally agree. I'm especially fond of Q and N Blocks that Chris Whitcraft made some really fine Pinot Noir from in the 90s and early 2000s. Jim Clendenen, ABC, has used BN fruit for eons for both Chardonnay and Pinot Noir [and Syrah] and it is the major blend in his cuvees for Knox and Isabelle.
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    #89 Post by James Cross » August 17th, 2018, 9:06 am

    I've been out of the country and just saw all the changes; wow. Two SBC favorites I've had since my return are the 2014 Santa Barbara Winery "SBC" chardonnay and the 2010 Stolpman "Originals" syrah. I've been drinking S Barbara Winery chards and pinots for 20 years and always enjoy them. Stolpman "Originals" is from some of the early plantings in the estate vineyards. This wine drinks well now, but could go out a long way.

    Both of these wineries punch above their weight classes. I'm especially fond of the Stolpman whites.

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    #90 Post by Patrick Lundgren » August 17th, 2018, 9:52 am

    2015 Stolpman Estate Syrah

    Really good value ($27). Blackberry and olive notes. Impressions of some Northern Rhones I've had (which is not that many) but with plenty of richness to know that you are drinking a CA wine without being over-the-top. I used to be a member at Stolpman, but dropped them because I was on too many lists. Just a reminder to myself that the estate wine is such a good value and I should be buying more of this wine.

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    #91 Post by Mel Knox » August 17th, 2018, 9:13 pm

    Au Bon Climat Knox Alexander Pinot Noir...I just like the name...hard to explain...I suggest buying five or RN cases
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    #92 Post by Blake Brown » August 18th, 2018, 9:55 am

    Mel Knox wrote:
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    Is your middle name Alexander?
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    #93 Post by CJ Beazley » August 18th, 2018, 11:51 am

    Blake Brown wrote:
    June 21st, 2016, 10:10 am
    Recent gems from ABC:

    2006 Elke Vineyard Pinot Noir
    2010 Elke Vineyard Pinot Noir [under Ici La Bas label]
    2008 Nielson Vineyard Pinot Noir
    2009 Talley Vineyard Chardonnay
    BB, I have the 07 Nielson I’ve been holding off on, is it worth drinking one now? Decant?
    Btw, there’s two different listings in cellartracker Nielson and ‘Nielsen’
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    #94 Post by Mel Knox » August 21st, 2018, 9:12 pm

    1998 Au Bon Climat Pinot
    Sanford and Benedict
    Found six bottles in the garage
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    #95 Post by CJ Beazley » September 23rd, 2018, 8:20 am

    2009 ABC Sanford & Benedict Chardonnay
    I went through 3 cases of this years ago and loved em young. I stashed a few away; had this last night. Reticent nose, little darker than I expected, but still a nice drink. It’s lost a little zip off it’s fastball, I wouldn’t pair it with anything too assertive. I’m reluctant to give advice but I’d say drink up.
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    #96 Post by Steve Costigan » September 23rd, 2018, 9:58 am

    Recently popper the cork on an 09 ojai melville vyd syrah. Really terrific (4+ out of 5). This has blossomed amazingly aromatically since I last tried in 2016. I was a little skeptical when Ojai started dialing back the ripeness since about the 06 vintage but recent experiences are telling me that if you give the new style sufficient time they may turn out to be more interesting than earlier (pre 2006) wines.

    I find that most of the time my Ojai ratings are significantly higher than the critics. I can't think of any other winery that follows that type of trend.

    This thread made me realize my local wine groups and I haven't been paying enough attention to SB/CC in recent years and need to get back to it.

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    Re: What Santa Barbara County/South Coast Wine Are You Drinking?

    #97 Post by Steve Costigan » September 23rd, 2018, 10:11 am

    FWIW, just noticed WS insider just gave the Jaffurs SB syrah a 92 (that's 2 points below their score for the Alban Reva). That Jaffurs SB has been a buy-by-the-case bargain in the past. Anyone try the 16 yet? Thoughts? Thanks.

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    Re: What Santa Barbara County/South Coast Wine Are You Drinking?

    #98 Post by Mel Knox » September 26th, 2018, 1:21 am

    Blake,
    ELKE vineyard is in the Anderson valley.
    But glad you liked it.
    ITB

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    Re: What Santa Barbara County/South Coast Wine Are You Drinking?

    #99 Post by Michael Martin » June 30th, 2019, 3:52 pm

    Oldie, but a goodie. Haven’t had a Zaca Mesa wine in years, but I picked up a 2015 Z Cuvée on a whim.
    As good as some of the less expensive French Rhône GSM blends I’ve had. Dark fruit, mineral, black tea, tobacco. Nice QPR for $17.

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    Re: What Santa Barbara County/South Coast Wine Are You Drinking?

    #100 Post by Steve Brickley » June 30th, 2019, 4:27 pm

    Tercero Outlier. Great juice.
    Steve

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