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#1 Post by Scott E. Wade » November 24th, 2015, 10:21 am

I've been working on my seemingly annual cellar inventory and mostly because I'm out of space. It feels like I'm playing some kind of bizarre game of Tetris with wine bottles or trying to fit a bowling ball into a marble bag. Along the way I've taken a look at the shape of things. My producer interests evolve, but the numbers move slowly as wines are aging, being drunk and more bottles added. The snap shot of the top five at present:

1. Mugneret-Gibourg. By a lot.
2. Myriad - trending up.
3. F. Esmonin. Mostly a broken Ruchottes vertical.
4. Dujac - trending up.
5. Bertheau - I love Chambolle

Pichon Baron and J. J. Prum are just out of the money. The top five used to be more so occupied by Burgundy negociants like Bouchard, Faiveley and Jadot. Collectively, I still have a good number of their wines, but they are trending down as I'm drinking them faster than I'm buying them. In looking at my cellar, my own results are somewhat skewed. My Bordeaux section is nearly as big as my Burgundy section, but I'm more scattershot on buying, whereas in Burgundy I'm producer focused.

Who are your top five?

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#2 Post by Jay Miller » November 24th, 2015, 10:24 am

Drouhin is still certainly number one but I'd have to recount to figure out the others.

Huet has probably dropped out of the number 2 spot due to rapid fire opening of all my premoxed 2002s.

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#3 Post by Joe B » November 24th, 2015, 10:27 am

Bedrock
Caymus
Realm
Carlisle
Rhys
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#4 Post by robert creth » November 24th, 2015, 10:31 am

Dirty and Rowdy
Sarah's - Santa Clara Valley
Bonny Doon
Rhys/Aleshia
Leitz

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#5 Post by T Welch » November 24th, 2015, 10:33 am

Bedrock
Kosta Browne
Rhys
Carlisle
Dehlinger
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#6 Post by Joe Raymond » November 24th, 2015, 10:34 am

1. Williams Selyem
2. Justin Vineyards
3. VHR
4. Epoch
5. Bedrock
6. Daou
7. Aubert
8. Sojourn
9. Tensley

I give you top 9 because they are all with in 2-3 bottles of each other (30-34 each) and then it drops off significantly (15). All of them have a lot of variety within each producer except VHR which is just a lot of their cab :) I have a lot of Bordeaux too (150 bottles out of 750 bottles) but I dabble a little bit from each area and producer, I got into to Bordeaux 2008-2010 so it was hard to buy a lot :) Fun to look at. Thanks for the post !!
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#7 Post by Claus Jeppesen » November 24th, 2015, 10:34 am

Keller
Prüm
Schönleber
Allemand
Fourrier
Claus

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#8 Post by R yan C omaz zetto » November 24th, 2015, 10:36 am

Cadence
Eyrie
Thomas
Maison Bleue
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#9 Post by Jim Hanlon » November 24th, 2015, 10:36 am

Top 10:

Puffeney
Huet
Rhys
Clos Roche Blanche
Donnhoff
Ganevat
Lauer
Mount Eden
Pepiere
Coudert

Puffeney and CRB ascended because I've been stocking up on final vintages. The Top 10 are 21% of my cellar.
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#10 Post by Rob_S » November 24th, 2015, 10:38 am

Dirty & Rowdy
Pontet-Canet
Enfield
Suduiraut
Beaucastel

Two Hands, Glaetzer, Myriad, Guiraud, Haut-Bailly & Leoville Barton would all be tied for next. I daily drink the D&R and Enfield to a much greater degree which is why they are pretty high (and I just picked up the fall shipments but haven’t had any yet). That said, I have 150 different producers in my cellar (according to CT) but only average about 3 bottles per producer…So I guess a mile wide and an inch deep!
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#11 Post by Howard Horwitz » November 24th, 2015, 10:42 am

Giacosa
Rousseau
Rhys
Leflaive
Bachelet
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#12 Post by Bud Carey » November 24th, 2015, 10:44 am

Peay
Carlisle
Switchback Ridge
Myriad
Rivers-Marie

with Quivet a close 6th.
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#13 Post by Brian King » November 24th, 2015, 10:47 am

JJ Prum
Huet
Donnhoff
Guigal
Brovia

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#14 Post by Dennis Atick » November 24th, 2015, 10:49 am

Drouhin
Olga Raffault
Pol Roger
LDH
Jadot
Arcadian and D&R close behind in 6th
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#15 Post by Jon Lawrence » November 24th, 2015, 10:50 am

1) Taittinger
2) Moet (Dom only)
3) Jadot
4) Ruinart
5) Faiveley

If I were to include the pre-arrival PC wines that I traded for in-stock items, then Mylar bags would be number 2.

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#16 Post by Jay T. » November 24th, 2015, 10:55 am

Rhys
Rivers-Marie
Peay
Williams Selyem
G. Mascarello

I think Williams Selyem will drop out and be replaced by Bedrock soon. This question is always interesting in terms of self-evaluation: since moving back East we've either dropped or cut most of our mailing lists, and 2/3 of our purchases over the past two years have been European wine. But our mailing lists still result in unbalanced concentrations. The most value-neutral thing I can say is that mailing lists seem to be effective marketing tools if the target is people like us.
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#17 Post by Jim Clary » November 24th, 2015, 11:02 am

Top 10, since they are all pretty close:

1) The Napa Valley Reserve
2) Rhys
3) Sine Qua Non
4) Aubert
5) M. Chapoutier
6) Colgin
7) Clos St. Jean
8) Shafer (100% Hillside Select)
9) Pegau
10) Bruno Giacosa
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#18 Post by Alan Eden » November 24th, 2015, 11:04 am

Bedrock
Saxum
Denner
Carlisle
Kosta Browne
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#19 Post by bob poirier » November 24th, 2015, 11:05 am

Carlisle 9.6% Bottles (73)

Myriad Cellars 6.4%Bottles (49)

Quivet Cellars 5.6% Bottles (43)

Ridge 5.1%Bottles (39)

Robert Mondavi Winery 5.1%Bottles (39)

Larkmead Vineyards 4.6%Bottles (35)

Snowden 4.3% Bottles (33)

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#20 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 24th, 2015, 11:10 am

Levet
Ridge
Baudry
Raffault
Sociando Mallet
Lanessan
Gonon
Roilette
Clape
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#21 Post by KatrinaBI » November 24th, 2015, 11:11 am

Huet
Fourrier
Lopez de Heredia
Schloss Gobelsburg
Domaine Des Croix
Littorai

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#22 Post by Jeffrey Neal » November 24th, 2015, 11:15 am

Bedrock
Carlisle
Rivers-Marie
Seghesio
Sojourn

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#23 Post by davidsturek » November 24th, 2015, 11:17 am

Dauvissat
Bertheau
Fevre
Billaud-Simon
Hudelot-Noellat

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#24 Post by Jay T. » November 24th, 2015, 11:18 am

KatrinaBI wrote:Huet
Fourrier
Lopez de Heredia
Schloss Gobelsburg
Domaine Des Croix
Littorai
This is a fascinating top 5 (at least to me). Do you buy LdH across the range? I've only had their Gran Riservas, which have crept up in price a lot recently and are pretty firmly in the special occasion category.

Also, I wish Schloss Gobelsburg was in my top 5. We drink them too fast.
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#25 Post by Bill Klapp (deactivated) » November 24th, 2015, 11:24 am

Giacosa
Giacomo Conterno
Cappellano
(tie) Gaja/Sandrone/Massolino (Rionda Riserva only)/B. Mascarello (dominantly MT's wines)/G. Rinaldi

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#26 Post by Lee Short » November 24th, 2015, 11:29 am

Pepiere
Chandon De Brailles
Huet
Roilette
Texier

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#27 Post by scamhi » November 24th, 2015, 11:38 am

Jadot
Rhys
Gonon
Hudelot Noellat
Huet
and just one bottle behind Huet
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#28 Post by Craig G » November 24th, 2015, 11:45 am

Dehlinger
Ch. des Tours/Rayas
Guillemot
Chave
Bertheau
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#29 Post by Emmanuel Menger » November 24th, 2015, 11:46 am

Pierre morey (>130)
Rousseau (>110)
Leroy / Auvenay (>110)
Dugat (~90)
Faiveley (~90)

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#30 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » November 24th, 2015, 11:50 am

Donnhoff (by a very wide margin)
Selbach-Oster
J. J. Prum
Rhys
Edmunds St. John

It drops off quite a bit to #6, Willi Schaefer.
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#31 Post by Kirk.Grant » November 24th, 2015, 11:52 am

1. Chateau Musar (25 bottles) - This producer is always going to have some space in my cellar. I fell in love with Musar while working at a small wine store in Southwest Harbor, ME. I imagine that at some point all the wines pre-1995 will reach a point where I can't afford to back-fill. Until that time...I'm buying them as often as I can afford to. Reds, Whites, & Rose....the only thing I need is a sparkler & I'm a happy man.
2. Bartlett (16 bottles & 7 pending) - I personally know the winemaker. I think of Bob & Kathe as people that are more akin to surrogate aunts & uncles than friends. At some point he'll retire and piecemeal off the winery...and I'll have to buy a BUNCH of his wines all at once to have enough to last until I retire. However, my girlfriend likes the wines...and as long as she's on board for a large purchase. I'll gladly justify adding a few more cases of his wine.
3. Patricia Green Cellars (20 bottles) - Jim & Patty make great wines...I have a bottle of 2005 Etzel Block that I've been saving in the cellar and I think it might finally be on the chopping block when I turn 40 next year.
4. Thomas (17 bottles & 1 pending) - I've only been buying since 2010, but these are wines are becoming essential Oregon wines in the cellar for me. The more I get in the cellar the easier it seems to age them...so I'm really looking forward to getting a few more vintages under my belt and in the cellar.
5. Produttori del Barbaresco (14 & 1 pending) - Year-in-year-out. There's very few wines that offer the same quality & value that these Reservas do.
5. Château Les Ormes de Pez (15 bottles) - My "value" Bordeaux that is a constant reminder that you don't have to buy only 1st Growths to enjoy the great wines of Bordeaux. I've had a few bottles of the '82 in the past year and every time it was clear that it's still a value when you can find it for sale.
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#32 Post by Dan Hammer » November 24th, 2015, 11:53 am

Bedrock
Carlisle
Sojourn
Myriad
Quivet
EMH
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#33 Post by Eric Sch » November 24th, 2015, 12:07 pm

Intriguing to read the preferences here on the forum. Not amazed to see so much Cali, but you won't find it here:

Huet
Cameron
Eyrie
Rasa
Selbach-Oster

Followed closely by a virtual tie between:

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Jos. Christoffel Jr.
Beaucastel
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#34 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » November 24th, 2015, 12:08 pm

Arcadian (@20% of our holdings)
Rhys
Rochioli
Schrader
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#35 Post by Scott E. Wade » November 24th, 2015, 12:15 pm

I expected to see a lot of Rhys and I am.

The responses are adding some flesh to my image of the "board darlings."

I think there are also a lot of examples of proof that mailing lists work for producers.

It's always interesting.

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#36 Post by Dennis Kanagie » November 24th, 2015, 12:27 pm

JJ Prüm
Arrowood
Huet
Graham's
Chappellet

Wish I could claim Ponsot, but they're probably the honorable mention.
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#37 Post by AlexO » November 24th, 2015, 12:33 pm

Stony Hill
Cameron Hughes
Bevan
Shafer
Etude
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#38 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 24th, 2015, 12:36 pm

Rhys
Bedrock
Littorai
Ridge
Rivers-Marie

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#39 Post by A Songeur » November 24th, 2015, 12:37 pm

Grivot
Fourrier
Barthod
Hudelot Noellat
Roumier/Mugneret Gibourg about tied
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#40 Post by Ethan Abraham » November 24th, 2015, 12:40 pm

Bedrock
Rhys
Carlisle
Ridge
Levet

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#41 Post by Dennis Kanagie » November 24th, 2015, 12:41 pm

Scott E. Wade wrote: The responses are adding some flesh to my image of the "board darlings."
I think Scott might be our leader in the clubhouse for Board Darlings in the Cellar:
Scott Fitzgerald wrote:Rhys
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#42 Post by SheilaAdams » November 24th, 2015, 12:44 pm

Baudry
Huet
Brovia
Gonon
Clos Rougeard

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#43 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 24th, 2015, 12:48 pm

Dennis Kanagie wrote:
Scott E. Wade wrote: The responses are adding some flesh to my image of the "board darlings."
I think Scott might be our leader in the clubhouse for Board Darlings in the Cellar:
Scott Fitzgerald wrote:Rhys
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Ridge
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#44 Post by Rich Byrne » November 24th, 2015, 12:51 pm

Carlisle
Saxum
SQN
Bedrock
Marcassin

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#45 Post by Jon Clements » November 24th, 2015, 12:53 pm

Kanonkop
Simonsig
Loma Prieta
Ashbourne
Mvemve Raats
Grangehurst
De Toren
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#46 Post by Howard Cooper » November 24th, 2015, 12:54 pm

1. Truchot
2. JJ Prum
3. Jadot
4. Dublere
5. Ridge and Zilliken, tied

Truchot probably won't last long at #1 as I can still buy Prum but not Truchot. Not buying Jadot at the moment until I can taste the newer wines made since Jacques Lardiere retired. Dublere and Zilliken are moving up fast (Zilliken would be higher but I drink too much of the wines I buy).
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#47 Post by Chris L. » November 24th, 2015, 12:54 pm

Bedrock
Rhys
Kutch
Myriad
Rivers-Marie
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#48 Post by Howard Cooper » November 24th, 2015, 1:03 pm

Dennis Kanagie wrote:JJ Prüm
Arrowood
Huet
Graham's
Chappellet

Wish I could claim Ponsot, but they're probably the honorable mention.
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#49 Post by Paul Jaouen » November 24th, 2015, 1:04 pm

Hubert Lignier
Jadot
Chevillon
Guigal
Henri Boillot
Chave
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