Consolidated off-the-beaten-path Burgundy TNs

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Re: Consolidated off-the-beaten-path Burgundy TNs

#301 Post by Jeremy Holmes » September 19th, 2018, 11:24 pm

Thanks for the note on the '08 Boisset Ladoix ‘Les Hautes Mourottes’ Kent. I reckon I have a couple left in the cellar. Will have to dig one out.
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#302 Post by James Billy » September 20th, 2018, 2:34 am

I think we need a parallel 'Burgundies to avoid' as there are so many wines on this thread as to make the reader think everything is good!

And another one 'closed Burgundy wines' and a prediction of when (year, month, day, time!) to open them.

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#303 Post by Howard Cooper » September 20th, 2018, 4:45 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
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Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:Thoughts on clerget?
I have had older wines made by the father that were good not great. The son supposedly is the real deal but I have not tasted them yet.
I visited Clerget this summer and the wines are a major step up from what the father made. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=153014&p=2546523&hi ... t#p2546523
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#304 Post by Kent Comley » September 20th, 2018, 2:58 pm

James,
It is becoming more difficult to find downright bad Burgundies. I guess as the market is small here, it relies on a small number of importers to pick the eyes out of the region. I have found that there are genuinely lots of delicious offerings from less heralded appellations.
There are some however that I have never loved like Grivot, Bertagna and Buffet.
As for closed - Comte Armand, d'Angerville and Jadot often fit the bill.
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#305 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 20th, 2018, 6:27 pm

Not precisely off the beaten path but I cracked a 15felletig hautes Cote de nuits that was beautiful. Jus delicious for $20 or whatever it cost.

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#306 Post by James Billy » September 21st, 2018, 4:10 am

Kent Comley wrote:
September 20th, 2018, 2:58 pm
James,
It is becoming more difficult to find downright bad Burgundies. I guess as the market is small here, it relies on a small number of importers to pick the eyes out of the region. I have found that there are genuinely lots of delicious offerings from less heralded appellations.
There are some however that I have never loved like Grivot, Bertagna and Buffet.
As for closed - Comte Armand, d'Angerville and Jadot often fit the bill.
Kent, thanks for that. Very interesting. I was half joking.

Why don't you like those Domains? Bad wine or just not your style. I've had Grivot and thought it OK. I know some people who love it, others (Bill Nanson, for example) who don't.

If it's style, what do you look for? Big question I know!

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#307 Post by danupdike » September 21st, 2018, 4:35 pm

2016 Cyprien Arlaud Bourgogne Hautes-Côtes de Nuits. Tasted this past week. Count me in as a fan.
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#308 Post by Yao C » September 30th, 2018, 2:42 pm

1978 Potinet-Ampeau Pommard 'Pezerolles': Ex-cellar from Envoyer; very little sediment indicating aggressive filtering but a clear and well-preserved ruby. Initially thin and austere with tertiary fruit verging on lemony (I wonder how many would class this as a white wine if served blind) with a crispness in the mouth though somewhat underweight. Unfurled nicely with air, putting on a little body and adding a pleasing set of flavors - preserved plum, tea, soil, smoke, perhaps a touch of mushroom; surprisingly penetrating & persistent finish. Don't hang on to these long if you've got any, but it's a very pleasant drink now. Decent plus (my scale: bad, decent, good, excellent)
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#309 Post by Lee Barnard » October 4th, 2018, 7:11 am

Saw this for what seemed liked a steal on Barcelona restaurant wine list. I don't have any experience with this producer, but almost seemed like the platonic ideal of what "Burgudian" CA producers would like to achieve. Not exactly my style, but for those with experience, is this the producer's style or the vintage?

2005 La Pousse d'Or Volnay 1er Cru Clos des 60 Ouvrées

Expressive black cherry and berry nose with just a kiss of vanilla. On the palate, vivid and pure rich red berries with a bit of spice. Silky mouthfeel with a long long finish. The acid definitely stands out right now. For me, missing the earthy depth that I look for, but this is still youthful. Time will tell.

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#310 Post by Jayson Cohen » October 21st, 2018, 5:08 am

Howard Cooper’s post on Juillot’s Bourgogne reminded I never outed a very good Bourgogne here: Confuron-Gindre. I had the ‘14 a few months ago out of bottle and the ‘15 at a wine store tasting a few weeks ago. Like a decent and recognizable Vosne village (spice, zest, darker reddish fruit) from vines that I understand are just outside the official boundary.

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#311 Post by Jayson Cohen » October 21st, 2018, 5:10 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 5:08 am
Howard Cooper’s post on Juillot’s Bourgogne reminded I never outed a very good Bourgogne here: Confuron-Gindre. I had the ‘14 a few months ago out of bottle and the ‘15 at a wine store tasting a few weeks ago. Like a decent and recognizable Vosne village (spice, zest, darker reddish fruit) from vines that I understand are just outside the official boundary. Under $25 US.

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Re: Consolidated off-the-beaten-path Burgundy TNs

#312 Post by Craig G » February 6th, 2019, 9:33 pm

Martin Steinley wrote:
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The 2015 Guillemot Savigny-les-Beaune Gravains is from youngish vines, but they are well-placed. It is a more darkly-colored wine than I expected from Guillemot, and the red cherry aromas get up the nasal passages in a hurry. It is cool, fresh and pure on the attack, has good mid-palate flesh and finishes with a red fruit perfume and forest action. Some preferred Domaine Sigaut's 2015 Chambolle-Musigny Les Fuees. I preferred the Guillemot because it is prettier.
I drank this tonight. Excellent wine.
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#313 Post by Yao C » February 10th, 2019, 10:40 pm

2014 Ramonet Bouzeron
Inasmuch as any bottle of Ramonet can be considered 'off-the-beaten-path,' this was a nice value find on a wine list; a powerful nose of lemon then salty with a refreshing grip from the acidity; linear and thrusting with not an ounce of fat to spare, yet never painful nor austere; not the last word in complexity; decent plus
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