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Re: Wait list times

#101 Post by Jeremy Charmak » September 11th, 2020, 11:41 am

Anyone have an idea about Lillian Winery?

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#102 Post by Craig G » September 11th, 2020, 12:31 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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Anyone know the wait time on Tusk? or is it referral only?
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#103 Post by Aleks V » September 11th, 2020, 1:14 pm

ChrisL wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 11:27 am
This thread has made me sign up for Ultramarine and SQN. See you in 9 years!

Does Ceritas have a wait? I have been buying for a few years now and want to feel special.
IIRC Ceritas (along with Carlisle, Williams Selyem, Turley, and maybe 1-2 others) has a wait list in that when you sign up they tell you that you are on a wait list but in practice it’s only until the next allocation. I signed up for Ceritas in Jan, was told I was on the wait list and got an April allocation.

I assume this allows wineries to claim to have a waitlist when they don’t really have one in practice.
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#104 Post by Alex Valdes » September 11th, 2020, 1:49 pm

updated immediate

Long Wait
Screaming Eagle: 14+ years
Macdonald: 10+ years?
Ultramarine: 10 years? (up from ~3 years)
Cayuse: 9+ years
SQN: 8+ years
Pisoni: 6 years
Saxum: 5 years (down from 7 years)
Scarecrow: ~3 years (down from 6 years)
Marcassin: truly an enigma
Kinsman: ???

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Becklyn (might get long quickly)
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Tusk?
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#105 Post by AD Northup » September 11th, 2020, 1:51 pm

Kinsman is already on a waitlist I believe
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#106 Post by B. Buzzini » September 11th, 2020, 2:12 pm

Sandlands has to be a couple out right?
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#107 Post by AD Northup » September 11th, 2020, 2:28 pm

B. Buzzini wrote:
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Sandlands has to be a couple out right?
Had my sister sign up before the Spring release and she made the leftover offering then, with an actual offering on the recent one (though not many wines available)
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#108 Post by Sjmotta » September 11th, 2020, 2:31 pm

I responded to the original sign-up email from Next Of Kyn in 2010 about two hours after it hit my inbox... I received first allocation in 2019.
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#109 Post by mattbillet » September 11th, 2020, 2:34 pm

I have let more than half of my mailing lists go! I still get some Turley, Bedrock (where I think increased sourcing and production has balanced out the waiting list issue... and they are terrific folks), Under the Wire, Myriad, Saxum, Hirsch, Torrin, Daou, and Sojourn. I think that Saxum is quite clearly an excellent producer and has been very careful about price-point not getting out of hand as opposed to others I see above that have gotten crazy, and I stopped buying already. Mike Smith and Myriad same thing... especially based upon quality! Daou has a great sense of marketing and pricing. Torrin remains a wonderful value in pricing. And, I have terrific pricing and availability thru Jim Nejaime/Spirited Wines in Lenox MA particularly with regard to all of the international wines I purchase.

So much of the wine I like requires age (my palate), at this point I stay on the mailing lists my son has great interest in! It is funny following wineries on instagram and seeing that my son has already reacted to wine postings before I can get there!

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#110 Post by P Sepsas » September 11th, 2020, 3:34 pm

Anyone has any knowledge regarding Andremily?
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#111 Post by Betty C » September 11th, 2020, 3:47 pm

Jeremy Charmak wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 11:41 am
Anyone have an idea about Lillian Winery?
That’s a quick one. I think I got an allocation the following release after I signed up.
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#112 Post by Alex N » September 11th, 2020, 4:09 pm

P Sepsas wrote:
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Anyone has any knowledge regarding Andremily?
I signed up 3/2018 and got an offer 5/2020
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#113 Post by Nicholas C » September 11th, 2020, 8:22 pm

P Sepsas wrote:
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Anyone has any knowledge regarding Andremily?
12/2017 sign up and 5/2020 first email and offer from them for their new EABA wine.
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#114 Post by GregT » September 12th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Craig G wrote:
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How long for Godot?
We’ll probably kick the Beckett first.
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#115 Post by Christian Obermanns » September 12th, 2020, 6:07 pm

Rhys is 1 year as of yesterday when I signed up.

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#116 Post by A.G. EVERETT » September 14th, 2020, 4:46 pm

J a y H a c k wrote:
August 28th, 2015, 7:05 am
My advice to the newbies - sign up for everything with a long waiting list. By the time you get an offer, maybe you will know whether you like the wine. DO NOT sign up for every list where there is currently no wait. You will feel like a heavy hitter and buy too much wine too fast. Been there, done that.
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#117 Post by SeanHarding » September 14th, 2020, 5:00 pm

Regarding Ultramarine, I have no data on what the current wait is. But they seem to not be very aggressive about kicking people off, because I think I last bought from them in 2016, and got (and bought) an allocation this year.

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#118 Post by Scott Brunson » September 14th, 2020, 5:26 pm

Betty C wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 3:47 pm
Jeremy Charmak wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 11:41 am
Anyone have an idea about Lillian Winery?
That’s a quick one. I think I got an allocation the following release after I signed up.
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#119 Post by Bret D!sk!n » September 15th, 2020, 10:17 am

I signed up for Ultramarine in September 2018. Got an email today saying that there is an allocation for me tomorrow. Not sure how complete it will be but I'm happy with 2 years!

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#120 Post by PaulMills » September 15th, 2020, 10:24 am

Bret D!sk!n wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:17 am
I signed up for Ultramarine in September 2018. Got an email today saying that there is an allocation for me tomorrow. Not sure how complete it will be but I'm happy with 2 years!
Me too. I actually received an offer for the first release but did not buy and either got dropped or unsubscribed, not really sure at this point. But I am in and will buy now.

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#121 Post by Gus Siokis » September 15th, 2020, 10:25 am

Piggybacking on Bret's comment....I signed up for Ultramarine in October 2018 and also received an email for an allocation!
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#122 Post by FMansfield » September 15th, 2020, 12:21 pm

Joe B wrote:
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Riverain. Sign up now or miss the boat.
Exactly...will def be allocation by next year. I got a 3 pack of the Reserve
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#123 Post by FMansfield » September 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm

Jody Smith wrote:
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Mel Hill wrote:SE not even mentioned.....
8 and waiting.
What is SE wines?
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#124 Post by ykwon » September 15th, 2020, 12:26 pm

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#125 Post by T. Williams » September 16th, 2020, 10:21 am

Bret D!sk!n wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:17 am
I signed up for Ultramarine in September 2018. Got an email today saying that there is an allocation for me tomorrow. Not sure how complete it will be but I'm happy with 2 years!
Interesting. I signed up in October 2016 and didn't get an offer. I got the update/dosage trial email back in June but that's it. Maybe I'll email them or maybe I am saving myself from over purchasing.

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#126 Post by Michael Fess » September 16th, 2020, 10:34 am

Maybe I missed it in this thread, what is the Aubert wait time?

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#127 Post by AD Northup » September 16th, 2020, 10:48 am

T. Williams wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:21 am
Bret D!sk!n wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:17 am
I signed up for Ultramarine in September 2018. Got an email today saying that there is an allocation for me tomorrow. Not sure how complete it will be but I'm happy with 2 years!
Interesting. I signed up in October 2016 and didn't get an offer. I got the update/dosage trial email back in June but that's it. Maybe I'll email them or maybe I am saving myself from over purchasing.

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See my note in the UM thread, they had me marked as passing last year so I got dropped. A quick email fixed it.
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#128 Post by AlexCWu » September 16th, 2020, 11:43 am

Michael Fess wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:34 am
Maybe I missed it in this thread, what is the Aubert wait time?
Aubert is 1-2 years? I signed up in early 2018, got a tie-you-over mini offer of 2-3 bottles in the following month and start regular allocations by 2019.

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#129 Post by Aleks V » September 16th, 2020, 11:54 am

AlexCWu wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 11:43 am
Michael Fess wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:34 am
Maybe I missed it in this thread, what is the Aubert wait time?
Aubert is 1-2 years? I signed up in early 2018, got a tie-you-over mini offer of 2-3 bottles in the following month and start regular allocations by 2019.

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Can confirm - same with me on Aubert.
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#130 Post by Tyler Rico » September 16th, 2020, 12:28 pm

FMansfield wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Jody Smith wrote:
August 28th, 2015, 7:49 am
Mel Hill wrote:SE not even mentioned.....
8 and waiting.
What is SE wines?
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#131 Post by T. Williams » September 16th, 2020, 6:09 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:48 am
T. Williams wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:21 am
Bret D!sk!n wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 10:17 am
I signed up for Ultramarine in September 2018. Got an email today saying that there is an allocation for me tomorrow. Not sure how complete it will be but I'm happy with 2 years!
Interesting. I signed up in October 2016 and didn't get an offer. I got the update/dosage trial email back in June but that's it. Maybe I'll email them or maybe I am saving myself from over purchasing.

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See my note in the UM thread, they had me marked as passing last year so I got dropped. A quick email fixed it.
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#132 Post by P Sepsas » September 17th, 2020, 4:52 pm

Aleks V wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 11:54 am
AlexCWu wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 11:43 am
Michael Fess wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 10:34 am
Maybe I missed it in this thread, what is the Aubert wait time?
Aubert is 1-2 years? I signed up in early 2018, got a tie-you-over mini offer of 2-3 bottles in the following month and start regular allocations by 2019.

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Can confirm - same with me on Aubert.
Signed in on March 2016...nothing here. I also contacted them last year to check but there was nothing for me [winner.gif]

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#133 Post by JohnP » September 21st, 2020, 11:40 am

Very curious on Tusk, can anyone comment on how they got onto the list? Also, what the recent cost was per bottle, have a feeling online pricing is inflated, or maybe not?
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#134 Post by ykwon » September 21st, 2020, 12:26 pm

JohnP wrote:
September 21st, 2020, 11:40 am
Very curious on Tusk, can anyone comment on how they got onto the list? Also, what the recent cost was per bottle, have a feeling online pricing is inflated, or maybe not?
I’m not on the list but I did see a local retailer offering the 2016 at $675/per.
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#135 Post by R@f@el A. » September 21st, 2020, 12:51 pm

Anyone know about the length of the waitlist for Dalla Valle?
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#136 Post by ChrisL » October 14th, 2020, 9:16 am

Christophe Baron champagne. Waitlist time?
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#137 Post by P Sepsas » October 14th, 2020, 2:12 pm

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Christophe Baron champagne. Waitlist time?

On the second year I got an allocation, only one magnum though
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#138 Post by Nevin Miller » October 14th, 2020, 5:01 pm

More than a little surprised that Rochioli has Not been part of this discussion. IMO, one of the very best Pinots (the SVD’s) in California. Drank a 96 West Block last year, and it was singing, and could have gone ten more years. Still have most of my 04’s - looking forward to them.

When I got on the list in 2003 - the wait was 7 years. I don’t think they have increased production - we certainly are not offered more than a case a year of combined SVD’s - same as 17 years ago.

I’d wager the wait is still 7 plus years, and worth it!

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#139 Post by Andrew Ing » October 14th, 2020, 6:39 pm

Nevin Miller wrote:
October 14th, 2020, 5:01 pm
More than a little surprised that Rochioli has Not been part of this discussion. IMO, one of the very best Pinots (the SVD’s) in California. Drank a 96 West Block last year, and it was singing, and could have gone ten more years. Still have most of my 04’s - looking forward to them.

When I got on the list in 2003 - the wait was 7 years. I don’t think they have increased production - we certainly are not offered more than a case a year of combined SVD’s - same as 17 years ago.

I’d wager the wait is still 7 plus years, and worth it!
I just got in last year after about 5 years on the list. They wouldn't even send me an email saying I was on a list or that I was still on a list. Just got my first round of SVDs. I buy something at every offer. I'm afraid I'm going to get kicked off. I also load up on WS Rochioli. I like those vines.
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#140 Post by Michael_D » November 18th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Any idea what the wait is for Leonetti?

I get a few of their Merlot and Sangiovese (my faves) from a friend, so I never signed up.
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#141 Post by markjchambers » November 19th, 2020, 2:27 pm

Andrew Ing wrote:
October 14th, 2020, 6:39 pm
Nevin Miller wrote:
October 14th, 2020, 5:01 pm
More than a little surprised that Rochioli has Not been part of this discussion. IMO, one of the very best Pinots (the SVD’s) in California. Drank a 96 West Block last year, and it was singing, and could have gone ten more years. Still have most of my 04’s - looking forward to them.

When I got on the list in 2003 - the wait was 7 years. I don’t think they have increased production - we certainly are not offered more than a case a year of combined SVD’s - same as 17 years ago.

I’d wager the wait is still 7 plus years, and worth it!
I just got in last year after about 5 years on the list. They wouldn't even send me an email saying I was on a list or that I was still on a list. Just got my first round of SVDs. I buy something at every offer. I'm afraid I'm going to get kicked off. I also load up on WS Rochioli. I like those vines.
Things may have changed in the last 10 years, but when I was on their list, you had to buy a lot of lower quality stuff, including what they called "picnic wines." I did that for two years before I got my first SVD offer. When I only bought the SVD pinots and not my wholes allocation, they dropped me.

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#142 Post by Rodrigo F. » November 19th, 2020, 3:54 pm

Not sure if anyone covered this one, but what about Maybach?
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#143 Post by KenL. » November 19th, 2020, 4:05 pm

Rodrigo F. wrote:
November 19th, 2020, 3:54 pm
Not sure if anyone covered this one, but what about Maybach?
I got my first offer at the beginning of the year. I think I was on the wait list 2 and a half years.
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#144 Post by Frank Z » November 19th, 2020, 4:24 pm

Rodrigo F. wrote:
November 19th, 2020, 3:54 pm
Not sure if anyone covered this one, but what about Maybach?
Not too bad...I had signed up in June 2018 and received my first offer for their 2017 vintage in late January this year. Really looking forward to their 2018 release in a few months.
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#145 Post by Len Stevens » November 21st, 2020, 7:25 am

Nevin Miller wrote:
October 14th, 2020, 5:01 pm
More than a little surprised that Rochioli has Not been part of this discussion. IMO, one of the very best Pinots (the SVD’s) in California. Drank a 96 West Block last year, and it was singing, and could have gone ten more years. Still have most of my 04’s - looking forward to them.

When I got on the list in 2003 - the wait was 7 years. I don’t think they have increased production - we certainly are not offered more than a case a year of combined SVD’s - same as 17 years ago.

I’d wager the wait is still 7 plus years, and worth it!

Made the SVD last year...11 years

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#146 Post by CJ Beazley » November 21st, 2020, 7:48 am

Nevin Miller wrote:
October 14th, 2020, 5:01 pm
More than a little surprised that Rochioli has Not been part of this discussion. IMO, one of the very best Pinots (the SVD’s) in California. Drank a 96 West Block last year, and it was singing, and could have gone ten more years. Still have most of my 04’s - looking forward to them.

When I got on the list in 2003 - the wait was 7 years. I don’t think they have increased production - we certainly are not offered more than a case a year of combined SVD’s - same as 17 years ago.

I’d wager the wait is still 7 plus years, and worth it!
Second everything you said about Rochioli.
Does Lewelling still have a wait?
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#147 Post by JLuch » November 21st, 2020, 10:41 am

I signed up for Lewelling in May of this year and was told I was on the waitlist. However, I received an offer email for the 2018 release that was a week or so ago. So if there is a wait list, it wasn’t very long.
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#148 Post by Dan Hammer » November 21st, 2020, 10:44 am

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November 21st, 2020, 10:41 am
I signed up for Lewelling in May of this year and was told I was on the waitlist. However, I received an offer email for the 2018 release that was a week or so ago. So if there is a wait list, it wasn’t very long.
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