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#1601 Post by Bud Carey »

On deck... 2013 Roussanne/Marsanne.
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#1602 Post by Jeff_M. »

2015 Papera Ranch zin. Think this can use more time in the bottle. Will slow drink tonight to see if it opens up more.
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#1603 Post by Peter Petersen »

Bud Carey wrote: July 2nd, 2020, 7:42 am On deck... 2013 Roussanne/Marsanne.
That's a new Carlisle?

2017 C-P over two nights. This wine is amazing and I wonder if it needs another 5 years to hit its peak. Very concentrated and intense.

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Oops! Sorry. Posted in the wrong thread.
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2009 Carlisle Vineyard and it is absolutely singing...beautiful wine. Want to follow this over the next few hours but insanely gulpable.

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#1606 Post by Leon Katraix »

2014 Carlisle Carlisle - very tasty after 1 hour decant (yummy raspberry), but just got better and better as we stretched it out over remainder of the day (more blackberry and cherry notes with vanilla and cinnamon emerging) - rich, smooth, fine tannins

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On deck, 2018 Gruner Veltliner.
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#1608 Post by Dale McClaran »

16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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#1609 Post by JeremyMullman »

Dale McClaran wrote: July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?

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JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
Dale McClaran wrote: July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Tuesday.

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#1611 Post by JeremyMullman »

David Lewin wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:00 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
Dale McClaran wrote: July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Tuesday.
Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.

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JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pm
David Lewin wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:00 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am

My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Tuesday.
Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.
I spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:
Papera
Mancini
DuPratt
Pagani
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MarkSt wrote: July 12th, 2020, 3:31 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pm
David Lewin wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:00 pm

Tuesday.
Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.
I spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:
Papera
Mancini
DuPratt
Pagani
Nice. Any idea on syrahs?

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JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 3:45 pm
MarkSt wrote: July 12th, 2020, 3:31 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pm

Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.
I spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:
Papera
Mancini
DuPratt
Pagani
Nice. Any idea on syrahs?
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#1615 Post by JeremyMullman »

Thx!

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#1616 Post by Chris H. »

JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
Dale McClaran wrote: July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Thanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!
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#1617 Post by JeremyMullman »

Chris H. wrote: July 12th, 2020, 5:14 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
Dale McClaran wrote: July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Thanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!
There’s no rush on it. I had it at Thanksgiving and it was drinking marvelously, but it clearly has the balance and stuffing to age awhile.

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JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 5:30 pm
Chris H. wrote: July 12th, 2020, 5:14 pm
JeremyMullman wrote: July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am

My WOTY last year. Crazy good.

Related: I believe we’re getting the fall mailer this week, no?
Thanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!
There’s no rush on it. I had it at Thanksgiving and it was drinking marvelously, but it clearly has the balance and stuffing to age awhile.
Thanks Jeremy, I went pretty deep on the 2016 vintage, for my standards, and all of Mike's 2016 Carlisle Zins I've tried were SO good. Heck the 2017s I've had were really good too (especially thinking Papera on this one). I'll pop one soon! I've also been trying to age the Carlisle Zins a bit more than my usual practice (2-3 years from vintage) just because there are so many tasting notes of further improvement and evolution.
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#1619 Post by JeremyMullman »

Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.

https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf

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JeremyMullman wrote: July 14th, 2020, 5:18 am Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.

https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
Gotta keep loading up on the 18s! When is the actual release ?
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Nicolas G. wrote: July 14th, 2020, 5:21 am
JeremyMullman wrote: July 14th, 2020, 5:18 am Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.

https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
Gotta keep loading up on the 18s! When is the actual release ?
According to the front page banner on the website, today.

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I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
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AD Northup wrote: July 14th, 2020, 10:07 am I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
I temporairly had the same issue. Try again. The offer is up.
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MarkSt wrote: July 14th, 2020, 10:09 am
AD Northup wrote: July 14th, 2020, 10:07 am I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
I temporairly had the same issue. Try again. The offer is up.
Correct, I was worried as well when I couldn't access the offer. I am in now.
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#1626 Post by Jeff_M. »

Order in. 16 bottles
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#1627 Post by JeremyMullman »

In for some Papera, Mancini and Rosella's. Wasn't planning on the latter but Mike's note sold me.

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#1628 Post by Chris H. »

I'm running out of cellar space (went large with the 2018 Napa Cabs), I've got smatterings of Carlisle going back to the 2015 vintage, any recommendations on the Zins? Any standout favorites? Sounds like Mike really likes the Pagani.
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Chris H. wrote: July 14th, 2020, 11:26 am I'm running out of cellar space (went large with the 2018 Napa Cabs), I've got smatterings of Carlisle going back to the 2015 vintage, any recommendations on the Zins? Any standout favorites? Sounds like Mike really likes the Pagani.
If Brian Tuite jumps in here he can validate but I think 2018 zin is excellent across the board for the good producers.

Hell, Mike's is excellent in shitty years.

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Order in!!!
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brigcampbell wrote: July 14th, 2020, 11:49 am
Chris H. wrote: July 14th, 2020, 11:26 am I'm running out of cellar space (went large with the 2018 Napa Cabs), I've got smatterings of Carlisle going back to the 2015 vintage, any recommendations on the Zins? Any standout favorites? Sounds like Mike really likes the Pagani.
If Brian Tuite jumps in here he can validate but I think 2018 zin is excellent across the board for the good producers.

Hell, Mike's is excellent in shitty years.
I was really impressed with the 2017s he made! In recent memory a Papera Ranch was young but exquisite! Perhaps better than the 2016, which is hard to believe considering the 2016 was very good, and considering the vintage troubles.
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#1632 Post by JeremyMullman »

Chris H. wrote: July 14th, 2020, 11:26 am I'm running out of cellar space (went large with the 2018 Napa Cabs), I've got smatterings of Carlisle going back to the 2015 vintage, any recommendations on the Zins? Any standout favorites? Sounds like Mike really likes the Pagani.
There are no bad (or even average) Carlisle zins, but I really gravitate to the RRV bottlings, particularly those in his Piner-Olivet zone backyard. Papera and Mancini a great place to start in today's release.

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#1633 Post by Bud Carey »

Order in... only 30 bottles this time around.
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#1634 Post by Michael Martin »

Somebody is going to get lucky this go around. I am dropping Carlisle. My cellar doesn’t need another $40 Zin and the wine world is filled with so many good options these days for QPR Syrahs and Rhône blends. I enjoyed Mike’s wines, but the time has come to cast my net elsewhere.

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My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.

Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.

His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
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Glenn L e v i n e wrote: July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.

Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.

His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.

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#1637 Post by Glenn L e v i n e »

I agree Scott.

So who’s had the 14 Papa’s? Either the weirdest Papa’s or this bottle was flawed in some way.
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#1638 Post by Rich Brown »

JeremyMullman wrote: July 14th, 2020, 10:55 am In for some Papera, Mancini and Rosella's. Wasn't planning on the latter but Mike's note sold me.
Yep, Papera and Mancini seem like the standouts to me as well. I'm not as much of a syrah fan though so no Rosella's for me. Also love The Derivitive but have so many past vintages. Decisions decisions.

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Glenn L e v i n e wrote: July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.

Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.

His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.

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#1640 Post by Steve Gautier »

Glenn L e v i n e wrote: July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.

Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.

His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.

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#1641 Post by Ed Steinway »

Glenn Levine wrote:
My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.

Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.

His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
Condolences to you and your wife, Glenn. Best wishes to your family during these challenging times.

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#1642 Post by C. Heinsen »

With the Carlisle pre release our I am wondering what this group's favorite single vineyard zinfandels are from Carlisle.
This would be across vintages, so a "consistent" metric rather than any single vintage and can be ranked, top 3, or just straight up favorite.

I'll start:
- Papera
- Bedrock
- Limerick Lane
- Montafi
- Pagani
- Carlisle
- DuPratt
- Mancini
- Rossi Ranch

I love them all for different reasons, so no bad apples here, but this is my stab at it.
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#1643 Post by Bud Carey »

Top 3 for me are Montafi, Carlisle, and Papera.
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#1644 Post by Rich Brown »

Bud Carey wrote: July 18th, 2020, 11:12 am Top 3 for me are Montafi, Carlisle, and Papera.
Nailed it!

Montafi, followed by Papera, with Carlisle a close 3rd.

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#1645 Post by Steve Gautier »

A very enjoyable 2014 Dry Creek Zin
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1646 Post by Andrew Demaree »

2013 Montafi Ranch Zinfandel. This bottle was notably better than a bottle consumed 3-4 months ago. This one seemed fresher and, at the same time, better integrated. Really nice bottle.

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1647 Post by Scott E. »

Bud Carey wrote: July 18th, 2020, 11:12 am Top 3 for me are Montafi, Carlisle, and Papera.
Ditto, except my order would be reversed. Cheers!
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1648 Post by David Lewin »

In 2013 a group of 13 of us did a tasting the the Carlisle Vineyard (CVZ), Montafi and Papera from 2005 through 2011. At the end, when asked for the favorite, it split evenly, four to four, to four. After we twisted his arm to vote, Mike Officer broke the tie by voting for the CVZ. I go back and forth between Montafi and Papera, depending on the vintage, but find I like the CVZ best with age.

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1649 Post by Steve Gautier »

2012 Saitone Zin. Enjoyed more than previously but high alcohol was noticeable.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1650 Post by Glenn L e v i n e »

Just found a nice cache of 12 Carlisle in a box masquerading as Rhys. Hayne will start the festivities this evening!
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