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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
2015 Papera Ranch zin. Think this can use more time in the bottle. Will slow drink tonight to see if it opens up more.
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That's a new Carlisle?
2017 C-P over two nights. This wine is amazing and I wonder if it needs another 5 years to hit its peak. Very concentrated and intense.
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2009 Carlisle Vineyard and it is absolutely singing...beautiful wine. Want to follow this over the next few hours but insanely gulpable.
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2014 Carlisle Carlisle - very tasty after 1 hour decant (yummy raspberry), but just got better and better as we stretched it out over remainder of the day (more blackberry and cherry notes with vanilla and cinnamon emerging) - rich, smooth, fine tannins
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16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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My WOTY last year. Crazy good.Dale McClaran wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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Tuesday.JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 amMy WOTY last year. Crazy good.Dale McClaran wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.David Lewin wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 12:00 pmTuesday.JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 amMy WOTY last year. Crazy good.Dale McClaran wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
I spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pmHas Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.David Lewin wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 12:00 pmTuesday.JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.
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Nice. Any idea on syrahs?MarkSt wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 3:31 pmI spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pmHas Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.
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Rosella'sJeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 3:45 pmNice. Any idea on syrahs?MarkSt wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 3:31 pmI spoke with Mike earlier this week and you're correct CVZ,Bedrock , and I believe James Berry will be released in January. I believe the Zin's being released next week are:JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 12:51 pm
Has Mike tipped his hand on the contents yet? I remember hearing that a generous vintage was letting him push some of the fall-release staples to January, including CVZ.
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Thanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 amMy WOTY last year. Crazy good.Dale McClaran wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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There’s no rush on it. I had it at Thanksgiving and it was drinking marvelously, but it clearly has the balance and stuffing to age awhile.Chris H. wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 5:14 pmThanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 amMy WOTY last year. Crazy good.Dale McClaran wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 10:47 am 16 Carlisle Carlisle - more elegant than I would have guessed but could be a contender for laying down longer than your normal Carlisle Zin. And it was very good, lets be clear.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
Thanks Jeremy, I went pretty deep on the 2016 vintage, for my standards, and all of Mike's 2016 Carlisle Zins I've tried were SO good. Heck the 2017s I've had were really good too (especially thinking Papera on this one). I'll pop one soon! I've also been trying to age the Carlisle Zins a bit more than my usual practice (2-3 years from vintage) just because there are so many tasting notes of further improvement and evolution.JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 5:30 pmThere’s no rush on it. I had it at Thanksgiving and it was drinking marvelously, but it clearly has the balance and stuffing to age awhile.Chris H. wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 5:14 pmThanks for the notes Jeremy and Dale, I was thinking about popping a 2016 Carlisle Carlisle on Friday, but it was later and we opted for a Rose. But I think I've got 3 left, sounds like it's drinking well. I recently had a 2016 Papera and it was elegant, balanced, and many years of drinking enjoyment ahead. I'm looking forward to the release!JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 11:44 am
My WOTY last year. Crazy good.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.
https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
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Gotta keep loading up on the 18s! When is the actual release ?JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 5:18 am Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.
https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
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According to the front page banner on the website, today.Nicolas G. wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 5:21 amGotta keep loading up on the 18s! When is the actual release ?JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 5:18 am Carlisle posted release notes ahead of today’s mailer, and it is not going to be easy to hold this to a half case as planned.
https://www.carlislewinery-store.com/as ... 012750.pdf
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
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I temporairly had the same issue. Try again. The offer is up.AD Northup wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:07 am I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
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Correct, I was worried as well when I couldn't access the offer. I am in now.MarkSt wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:09 amI temporairly had the same issue. Try again. The offer is up.AD Northup wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:07 am I just got an email that the release was open, but no ability to buy on the website...anyone else see anything?
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
Order in. 16 bottles
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
In for some Papera, Mancini and Rosella's. Wasn't planning on the latter but Mike's note sold me.
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I'm running out of cellar space (went large with the 2018 Napa Cabs), I've got smatterings of Carlisle going back to the 2015 vintage, any recommendations on the Zins? Any standout favorites? Sounds like Mike really likes the Pagani.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
If Brian Tuite jumps in here he can validate but I think 2018 zin is excellent across the board for the good producers.
Hell, Mike's is excellent in shitty years.
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I was really impressed with the 2017s he made! In recent memory a Papera Ranch was young but exquisite! Perhaps better than the 2016, which is hard to believe considering the 2016 was very good, and considering the vintage troubles.brigcampbell wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 11:49 amIf Brian Tuite jumps in here he can validate but I think 2018 zin is excellent across the board for the good producers.
Hell, Mike's is excellent in shitty years.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
There are no bad (or even average) Carlisle zins, but I really gravitate to the RRV bottlings, particularly those in his Piner-Olivet zone backyard. Papera and Mancini a great place to start in today's release.
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Somebody is going to get lucky this go around. I am dropping Carlisle. My cellar doesn’t need another $40 Zin and the wine world is filled with so many good options these days for QPR Syrahs and Rhône blends. I enjoyed Mike’s wines, but the time has come to cast my net elsewhere.
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My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
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So sorry DocGlenn L e v i n e wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
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I agree Scott.
So who’s had the 14 Papa’s? Either the weirdest Papa’s or this bottle was flawed in some way.
So who’s had the 14 Papa’s? Either the weirdest Papa’s or this bottle was flawed in some way.
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Yep, Papera and Mancini seem like the standouts to me as well. I'm not as much of a syrah fan though so no Rosella's for me. Also love The Derivitive but have so many past vintages. Decisions decisions.JeremyMullman wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:55 am In for some Papera, Mancini and Rosella's. Wasn't planning on the latter but Mike's note sold me.
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So sorry to hear that my friend. My condolences to you and your family.Glenn L e v i n e wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
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Condolences Glenn. May memories of good times get your through this difficult time.Glenn L e v i n e wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 6:01 pm My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
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Condolences to you and your wife, Glenn. Best wishes to your family during these challenging times.Glenn Levine wrote:
My father-in-law passed, seemingly peacefully, this AM on our property in Coos Bay. We got him out of a bad situation in the Inland Empire back in 2014 so it’s the 14 Papa’s tonight.
Bless the cold & windy OR coast, where Syrah season never ends. Rest peacefully Grandpa Nick, Solly misses you.
His last alfresco meal, lobster this past Sunday.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
With the Carlisle pre release our I am wondering what this group's favorite single vineyard zinfandels are from Carlisle.
This would be across vintages, so a "consistent" metric rather than any single vintage and can be ranked, top 3, or just straight up favorite.
I'll start:
- Papera
- Bedrock
- Limerick Lane
- Montafi
- Pagani
- Carlisle
- DuPratt
- Mancini
- Rossi Ranch
I love them all for different reasons, so no bad apples here, but this is my stab at it.
This would be across vintages, so a "consistent" metric rather than any single vintage and can be ranked, top 3, or just straight up favorite.
I'll start:
- Papera
- Bedrock
- Limerick Lane
- Montafi
- Pagani
- Carlisle
- DuPratt
- Mancini
- Rossi Ranch
I love them all for different reasons, so no bad apples here, but this is my stab at it.
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Nailed it!
Montafi, followed by Papera, with Carlisle a close 3rd.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?
A very enjoyable 2014 Dry Creek Zin
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2013 Montafi Ranch Zinfandel. This bottle was notably better than a bottle consumed 3-4 months ago. This one seemed fresher and, at the same time, better integrated. Really nice bottle.
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In 2013 a group of 13 of us did a tasting the the Carlisle Vineyard (CVZ), Montafi and Papera from 2005 through 2011. At the end, when asked for the favorite, it split evenly, four to four, to four. After we twisted his arm to vote, Mike Officer broke the tie by voting for the CVZ. I go back and forth between Montafi and Papera, depending on the vintage, but find I like the CVZ best with age.
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2012 Saitone Zin. Enjoyed more than previously but high alcohol was noticeable.
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Just found a nice cache of 12 Carlisle in a box masquerading as Rhys. Hayne will start the festivities this evening!
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