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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1551 Post by dsimmons » April 2nd, 2020, 12:08 pm

2013 Carlisle Grenache Rossi Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (4/2/2020)
My second bottle of this delicious Grenache. Loads of fruit especially plum. Concentrated. Drink or hold. (94 pts.)

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#1552 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » April 11th, 2020, 8:35 am

2012 Carlisle Zinfandel Sodini Vineyard - what a difference compared to a bottle I opened in 2017! My notes then remarked that it took a long time to open up and was a bit hot/unbalanced. I was moving bottles around the racks yesterday and saw this one behind some 13's and decided to check it out. Drinking great!!! Smooth, cherry and other red fruits, absolutely delicious. Carlisle zin + age = YUM!

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#1553 Post by Scott E. » April 11th, 2020, 7:25 pm

2013 Dry Creek Valley Zin - drinking very nicely. What a great value! Cheers!
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#1554 Post by J. Blum » April 12th, 2020, 2:00 pm

2011 Russian River Valley "Papa's Block" Syrah

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#1555 Post by Peter Shurman » April 12th, 2020, 2:39 pm

2016 Piner Olivet Ranches Zinfandel

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#1556 Post by Ethan Abraham » April 12th, 2020, 4:13 pm

2012 Two Acres. First time in months my wife had a second glass of a non-riesling. Perfect pairing for some braised brisket. Thick, glycerin-y mouthfeel, nice mixed fruits, zero heat (grassl 1855s), enough acidity.

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#1557 Post by P Turk » April 18th, 2020, 2:42 pm

2014 Monte Rosso on deck for tonight.
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#1558 Post by Andrew Demaree » April 18th, 2020, 3:29 pm

How is it? I have a pair of those in the cellar that I haven’t sampled yet.

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#1559 Post by Frank Murray III » April 18th, 2020, 5:14 pm

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#1560 Post by J a y H a c k » April 18th, 2020, 5:23 pm

We got our delivery yesterday. The Fedex guy drops the box on the stoop, rings the bell, runs back down the path, and waits for someone to open the door to make sure it is an adult. We wave from a distance and he leaves. we lift the box into the foyer, cut the tape and slice open the box, wash hands and remove bottle without touching exterior of box. Rewash hands and exterior of bottle. Unscrew and pour. Needs a few years to calm down and show its complexity, but still outstanding. Best QPR of the Zin "Cults."
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#1561 Post by P Turk » April 19th, 2020, 9:59 am

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How is it? I have a pair of those in the cellar that I haven’t sampled yet.
A delicious balance of fruit, zin spice, and acidity. FYI - decanted for a hour and then aerated back into the bottle for another hour before drinking.
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#1562 Post by Andrew Demaree » April 19th, 2020, 1:31 pm

Yum. Thanks, Phil!

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#1563 Post by Ian Alper » April 22nd, 2020, 8:47 am

2009 Martinelli -porty, slightly hot, unbalanced, alcohol poking out - somewhat better with a little air. Mike's suggested drinking window of 2011-2016 seems correct. Should have listened.

2010 Rossi Ranch "100th anniversary" - now we are talking. Great balance and red fruit. Opened up nicely and did not seem in danger of going downhill anytime soon. Very nice.

2013 Monte Rosso- the best of the trio. No heat, great fruit, lingering flavors. Most restrained of the three -"feminine" if you will. Wish I had more.

These were coravin'd over a two week period. What a treat!

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#1564 Post by Gabe Berk » April 22nd, 2020, 9:03 am

2018 Sonoma Mountain "Steiner Vineyard" Grüner Veltliner. Hit the spot on a warmer trending afternoon. Super bright lemony, green apple acidity with a crisp mineral finish. Always a big fan of Carlisle's whites.

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#1565 Post by Scott E. » April 22nd, 2020, 10:50 am

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2013 Monte Rosso- the best of the trio. No heat, great fruit, lingering flavors. Most restrained of the three -"feminine" if you will. Wish I had more.
Yeah, that Monte Rosso was really good, although on its own, I would not call it restrained. I usually open one along side a Bedrock M-R, but didn't do it this time. Cheers!
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#1566 Post by William Segui » April 22nd, 2020, 10:55 am

2017 Rosella's. Didn't give much night one, but was spot on last night.

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#1567 Post by Rich Brown » April 22nd, 2020, 6:16 pm

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April 22nd, 2020, 8:47 am
2009 Martinelli -porty, slightly hot, unbalanced, alcohol poking out - somewhat better with a little air. Mike's suggested drinking window of 2011-2016 seems correct. Should have listened.

2010 Rossi Ranch "100th anniversary" - now we are talking. Great balance and red fruit. Opened up nicely and did not seem in danger of going downhill anytime soon. Very nice.

2013 Monte Rosso- the best of the trio. No heat, great fruit, lingering flavors. Most restrained of the three -"feminine" if you will. Wish I had more.

These were coravin'd over a two week period. What a treat!
Yep, the 2010 Martinelli Road is the only Carlisle that I have not cared for. Very similar to your note (and I drank it in 2015). A super rare miss.

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#1568 Post by dsimmons » April 27th, 2020, 1:12 pm

2012 Carlisle Mourvèdre Bedrock Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (4/27/2020)
Drank my first of two with braised pork shoulder. Absolutely delicious with concentrated dark fruits and herbs and excellent balance. Drink or hold. (95 pts.)

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#1569 Post by Peter Petersen » April 27th, 2020, 1:27 pm

A '15 Montafi. Excellent on day one and lackluster on day two. Very surprised at that. It was as if the fruit completely faded overnight.

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#1570 Post by Paul Miller » May 3rd, 2020, 1:10 pm

2010 Carlisle Zin, Monte Rosso Vnyrd.
Drinking very nicely.

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#1571 Post by Kris Patten » May 3rd, 2020, 1:44 pm

Anyone had the following, dug up some singles in my rummaging....

Derivative 2011 and 2012
Compagni Portis 2011 and 2013
CMP 2013
Steiner Gruner 2013
Judge Family Syrah 2004
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#1572 Post by Rich Brown » May 3rd, 2020, 2:32 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
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Anyone had the following, dug up some singles in my rummaging....

Derivative 2011 and 2012
Compagni Portis 2011 and 2013
CMP 2013
Steiner Gruner 2013
Judge Family Syrah 2004
13 CP last Sept. Was excellent. Fully in the zone but with plenty of time left. Drinking well but I'd say no rush.

I also opened a 2011 CP back in May 2018 and it was REALLY good. Insane floral aromatics and more of the same on the palate along with spice, lychee, and plenty of acidity. I'd open the 11 soon as it was killer a couple years ago and I'd assume still holding strong.

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#1573 Post by dsimmons » May 8th, 2020, 11:45 am

If any of you Carlisle fans have any of this left, it is definitely at a high point.

2005 Carlisle Syrah Pelkan Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Knights Valley (5/8/2020)
WOW!! Drank this with ribs. This was one of the best Syrah's I have ever drank, and I have drank a lot of Syrah. Concentrated Dark fruit and licorice flavors with some earthy overtones. Balanced and elegant. Lingering finish. I just love it when wine evolves to this level of elegance and seamless integration and concentration of flavors. If you still have these you are in for a treat. (98 pts.)

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#1574 Post by Ian Alper » May 8th, 2020, 1:19 pm

Don - great note. Will have to see if I have one of these. No inventory so need to search!

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#1575 Post by jon leifer » May 8th, 2020, 2:38 pm

2011 Carlisle Sonoma Zin..not much going on night 1, Night 2, nose still relatively muted but a but more fragrant, drinking like a mature claret 2..very Jeckyl and Hyde performance
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#1576 Post by Kris Patten » May 16th, 2020, 8:28 am

Started in on some of the solos I found.

2013 Carlisle CMP - this was absolutely delicious, all kinds of pit fruits, a bit ofwariness, no real signs of age. Colombard, Muscadelle, and Palomino from vines planted in 1895-1920

2013 Carlisle Steiner Vineyard Grüner Veltliner - started out taught and a bit spicy with lemon and a bit of bruised apple. As it opened fruit profile turned a bit more to cantaloupe.
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#1577 Post by Dale McClaran » May 16th, 2020, 9:30 am

dsimmons wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 11:45 am
If any of you Carlisle fans have any of this left, it is definitely at a high point.

2005 Carlisle Syrah Pelkan Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Knights Valley (5/8/2020)
WOW!! Drank this with ribs. This was one of the best Syrah's I have ever drank, and I have drank a lot of Syrah. Concentrated Dark fruit and licorice flavors with some earthy overtones. Balanced and elegant. Lingering finish. I just love it when wine evolves to this level of elegance and seamless integration and concentration of flavors. If you still have these you are in for a treat. (98 pts.)

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Great note Don, these Carlisle Syrahs age and improve way beyond what I would have expected from them at the time of purchase. Another wine I know you greatly enjoyed was the 08 Papa’s - I had it in Jan and in full agreement!
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#1578 Post by dsimmons » May 16th, 2020, 11:44 am

Dale McClaran wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 9:30 am
dsimmons wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 11:45 am
If any of you Carlisle fans have any of this left, it is definitely at a high point.

2005 Carlisle Syrah Pelkan Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Knights Valley (5/8/2020)
WOW!! Drank this with ribs. This was one of the best Syrah's I have ever drank, and I have drank a lot of Syrah. Concentrated Dark fruit and licorice flavors with some earthy overtones. Balanced and elegant. Lingering finish. I just love it when wine evolves to this level of elegance and seamless integration and concentration of flavors. If you still have these you are in for a treat. (98 pts.)

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Great note Don, these Carlisle Syrahs age and improve way beyond what I would have expected from them at the time of purchase. Another wine I know you greatly enjoyed was the 08 Papa’s - I had it in Jan and in full agreement!
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#1579 Post by Leon Katraix » May 17th, 2020, 3:09 pm

2014 Papera, rich with a wonderful mouthfeel as every year, with opulent fruit and a nice backdrop of spice (more cinnamon this vintage) and very fine tannins. One of our two favorite Carlisle wines each vintage
- along with Montafi (the two wines which forever made us fans of RRV zinfandel)

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#1580 Post by Ian Alper » May 27th, 2020, 9:23 am

2013 Kirschenmann - Elegant, almost tasted like a beefy pinot. Red fruit, strawberry, cherry and red rasberry with wonderful balance. Much lighter in color than most Carlisles. Really enjoyed this. Wanted to use the adjective "feminine" but not really comfortable with using that as a descripton only to find it on the back label. I thought it was at peak but Mike's drinking chart says 2023. One more bottle so will give it a few more years and see where it goes though I just don't feel there is much upside.

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#1581 Post by Brian Tuite » May 27th, 2020, 1:15 pm

We opened a 2015 Derivative the other night that was tremendous. Super expressive florals with lip smacking acidity.
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#1582 Post by Will Clements » June 6th, 2020, 11:10 am

Had my first Carlisle wine last night. It was a gift from a friend. I gave him a 2012 Peay La Bruma syrah and a 2017 Clarice pinot

2009 Sonoma Syrah
What a stunning wine and I'm told it sold for $19.
I'm getting on the list for sure.
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#1583 Post by Albert R » June 6th, 2020, 11:15 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
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We opened a 2015 Derivative the other night that was tremendous. Super expressive florals with lip smacking acidity.
Thanks Brian. I have one 2015 left that we will have soon.
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#1584 Post by JeremyMullman » June 6th, 2020, 2:00 pm

Will Clements wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 11:10 am
Had my first Carlisle wine last night. It was a gift from a friend. I gave him a 2012 Peay La Bruma syrah and a 2017 Clarice pinot

2009 Sonoma Syrah
What a stunning wine and I'm told it sold for $19.
I'm getting on the list for sure.
The Carlisle SC Syrah is, year in and year, one of the best sub-$30 wines anywhere (although they don’t always release one). Crazy-good vineyard sources that shift based on the vintage. The 2018 can be found at wine.com for only a few dollars above release and it is special.

As for that 2009:
https://www.winespectator.com/articles/ ... arts-45081

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#1585 Post by Will Clements » June 6th, 2020, 3:46 pm

JeremyMullman wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 2:00 pm
Will Clements wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 11:10 am
Had my first Carlisle wine last night. It was a gift from a friend. I gave him a 2012 Peay La Bruma syrah and a 2017 Clarice pinot

2009 Sonoma Syrah
What a stunning wine and I'm told it sold for $19.
I'm getting on the list for sure.
The Carlisle SC Syrah is, year in and year, one of the best sub-$30 wines anywhere (although they don’t always release one). Crazy-good vineyard sources that shift based on the vintage. The 2018 can be found at wine.com for only a few dollars above release and it is special.

As for that 2009:
https://www.winespectator.com/articles/ ... arts-45081
Awesome. Thanks for the link.

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#1586 Post by David Baum » June 6th, 2020, 5:03 pm

Found some 18 Compagni Portis on wine.com of all places last week. Cost per bottle was $27 delivered with a wine.com coupon for spending over $100 and another amex offer for the same. Picked up 4 bottles, got delivered last Saurday and 2 are gone already. One with carnitas burritos and the other with fried chicken. Both excellent.

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#1587 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » June 8th, 2020, 6:53 pm

13 Sonoma Co Petite Sirah. A bit reticent in the nose but otherwise beautiful. Not particularly tannic at all.
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#1588 Post by Leon Katraix » June 9th, 2020, 10:54 am

David Baum wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 5:03 pm
Found some 18 Compagni Portis on wine.com of all places last week. Cost per bottle was $27 delivered with a wine.com coupon for spending over $100 and another amex offer for the same. Picked up 4 bottles, got delivered last Saurday and 2 are gone already. One with carnitas burritos and the other with fried chicken. Both excellent.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere else, and for anyone who enjoys Carlisle wines and hasn't seen it I'm hoping that this will be of interest. The Carlisle homepage now has a PURCHASE button on it, and right now is featuring 4 wines for sale including the 2018 Compagni Portis. Mike said in an email that these were wines that were going to be used for tastings or were part of cancelled restaurant orders that he decided to put up for sale in what is essentially a mini-storefront. I grabbed 10 Compagni Portis (which we can never get enough of), along with a few each of the 2016 The Integral, 2017 Rossi Ranch Grenache (now sold out), 2017 Dupratt Zin and yet more 2018 Montafi. Although they are priced a bit higher than when offered on the Mailing List, there is an offer for $1 shipping with the purchase of 6 bottles or more. So another chance to support an amazing winery run by incredible people during this madness - and snag yourself some wines you may have missed or regret ordering too few of.

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#1589 Post by David Baum » June 9th, 2020, 11:30 pm

Compagni Portis is like Merry Edwards SB in my house. Cant have too much.

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#1590 Post by dsimmons » June 19th, 2020, 1:02 pm

2012 Carlisle Zinfandel Papera Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (6/19/2020)
Drank with slow cooker barbecue ribs. This is what I look for in Zin. Super concentrated dark fruits, spice and licorice. Seamless integration and excellent balance. Starting to develop the elegance I associate with good mature Zin. long finish. One bottle left and wish I had a case. Drink or hold. (95 pts.)

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#1591 Post by Jeff_M. » June 20th, 2020, 12:50 am

2015 Carlisle Bedrock Vineyard Zinfandel

This bottle was rocking out of the gates. Saved a glass for tomorrow to see how it changes overnight.
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#1592 Post by Will Clements » June 27th, 2020, 1:05 pm

2016 The Integral
Dark ruby in color
Long long finish
Lots of spice

I have two other bottles and I’m going to wait a few years.

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#1593 Post by Steve Gautier » June 27th, 2020, 6:26 pm

2012 Papa’s Block - wonderful
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#1594 Post by Peter Petersen » June 27th, 2020, 8:30 pm

Leon Katraix wrote:
June 9th, 2020, 10:54 am
David Baum wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 5:03 pm
Found some 18 Compagni Portis on wine.com of all places last week. Cost per bottle was $27 delivered with a wine.com coupon for spending over $100 and another amex offer for the same. Picked up 4 bottles, got delivered last Saurday and 2 are gone already. One with carnitas burritos and the other with fried chicken. Both excellent.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere else, and for anyone who enjoys Carlisle wines and hasn't seen it I'm hoping that this will be of interest. The Carlisle homepage now has a PURCHASE button on it, and right now is featuring 4 wines for sale including the 2018 Compagni Portis. Mike said in an email that these were wines that were going to be used for tastings or were part of cancelled restaurant orders that he decided to put up for sale in what is essentially a mini-storefront. I grabbed 10 Compagni Portis (which we can never get enough of), along with a few each of the 2016 The Integral, 2017 Rossi Ranch Grenache (now sold out), 2017 Dupratt Zin and yet more 2018 Montafi. Although they are priced a bit higher than when offered on the Mailing List, there is an offer for $1 shipping with the purchase of 6 bottles or more. So another chance to support an amazing winery run by incredible people during this madness - and snag yourself some wines you may have missed or regret ordering too few of.
Was this an email? Both the Integral and Montafi should be excellent buys esp with $1 shipping.

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#1595 Post by Ron F r e e d » June 27th, 2020, 9:50 pm

2011 Papa's Block tonight. A bit young, but quite nice!

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1596 Post by JonathanG » June 28th, 2020, 9:29 pm

2006 James Berry Vineyard Syrah - holy cow this is a huge black-fruit forward wine at 14 years of age! subtle tannins appeared after a 2 hr slow-ox. Not my wife's cup of tea (she's on a rioja now) but it was awesome to see the wine so vibrant after so long in the bottle.
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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1597 Post by Andrew Demaree » June 28th, 2020, 10:09 pm

2013 Kirschenmann Vineyard Zin.

Was my least favorite Carlisle to date.

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1598 Post by JeremyMullman » June 30th, 2020, 6:33 am

A friend opened a 2018 Piner-Olivet the other day. Aromatically awesome and delicious already but 6-18 months will do wonders, imo.

I’d still view this as an early drinker.

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1599 Post by Frank Murray III » June 30th, 2020, 8:46 am

Finished up the 14 Palisades Petite last night. Really drinking well with the full day of air it enjoyed.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1600 Post by Peter Petersen » July 2nd, 2020, 7:40 am

2016 Papera is drinking extremely well.
Btw I have found a majority of the Zins from the drought years 2012-16 to not be nearly as enticing as I had expected based on how they drank near release. The Paperas however have all performed really well.

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