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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1401 Post by julianseersmartin » June 17th, 2019, 8:05 am

Wish I'd spotted the comments on the 2017 Sonoma Zin before this weekend - popped one and it was a tough drink. Obviously the bones are there but it needs a good sleep for sure.

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#1402 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » July 1st, 2019, 6:32 am

09 Three Birds very fine last night. Sadly, the steaks I overcooked were not.
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#1403 Post by Bud Carey » July 1st, 2019, 6:59 am

2013 Hayne vineyard zin... delicious.
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#1404 Post by Joel Pulver » July 1st, 2019, 4:22 pm

2013 Dry Creek Zin

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#1405 Post by T Welch » July 1st, 2019, 8:33 pm

2012 Pagani Ranch. Exactly what I wanted with grilled pork ribs.
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#1406 Post by Scott E. » July 6th, 2019, 3:41 pm

Had a 2012 Carlisle and a 2012 Papera side-by-side with grilled tri-tip this weekend - super yummy stuff! Cheers!
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#1407 Post by jon leifer » July 8th, 2019, 10:40 am

2011 Hayne Vyd Zin, nose fine, kinda pruny on the palate..will revisit tonight
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#1408 Post by bob poirier » July 8th, 2019, 11:49 am

2016 Alicante Bouschet My wife said she could smell it across the kitchen when I decanted it. Really delicious stuff.

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#1409 Post by JeremyMullman » July 8th, 2019, 2:59 pm

2017 SC Syrah. Super young but already enjoyable. Will definitely reward additional cellar time so I will try to lose track of my other bottle for a few years.

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#1410 Post by Peter Petersen » July 8th, 2019, 6:09 pm

‘11 C-P drinking beautifully with tarragon crab cakes and “Greek” salad.

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#1411 Post by jon leifer » July 8th, 2019, 6:18 pm

Day 2 of 2011 Hayne Vyd Zin..still getting pruny notes, for my taste, the wine is OTH..See no reason to hold, drink up if ya got em
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#1412 Post by Rich Brown » July 21st, 2019, 8:19 pm

2013 Limerick Lane Zinfandel.

Solid but not my favorite Carlisle. Medium + bodied with Raspberry and red fruit on the palate and plenty of acidity, but slightly flat on the mid-palate and a bit of heat on the finish. Better/more integrated day 2, so I'd say hold for a year or two for maximum enjoyment.

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#1413 Post by Drew Goin » July 22nd, 2019, 1:37 pm

Thanks for the tasting note, Rich! I am always happy to see your TN's.

Plus, Limerick Lane Vineyard is a pretty special place.

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#1414 Post by Rich Brown » July 22nd, 2019, 1:50 pm

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Thanks for the tasting note, Rich! I am always happy to see your TN's.

Plus, Limerick Lane Vineyard is a pretty special place.
Thanks Drew - right back atcha pal!

And agreed. Always a treat to drink something from LL Vineyard!

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#1415 Post by Peter Petersen » July 22nd, 2019, 2:46 pm

Rich, thanks for checking in on this wine. Haven’t tried ‘13 or ‘14 LL that I recall.

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#1416 Post by Dale McClaran » July 28th, 2019, 11:02 am

My last bottle of 16 P.O.R. Zin This was gorgeous even from a pop and pour and is developing very well. A wine that would be impossible not to like.
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#1417 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » August 26th, 2019, 7:31 am

Wanted a flavorful, young bottle to go with a spicy cauliflower soup and some sprouted bread last night. Pulled the 13 Dupratt and gave it two hours in decanter.

Wait 5 more years or plan a way longer decanting. Best glass was by far the last.
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#1418 Post by dsimmons » August 26th, 2019, 12:40 pm

Drank my last bottle of '10 Old Vines Zin yesterday at a barbecue. Still going strong.
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#1419 Post by Jeff_M. » August 26th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Had a 14' Palisades PS Friday. Opened it in early afternoon and it was singing by night time.

We had a 15' Montafi Ranch Saturday and I don't think it was ready to be drinking yet. Still too young for my tastes.
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#1420 Post by Peter Petersen » August 26th, 2019, 4:08 pm

Speaking of going strong, the '08 TA is beautiful and seemed almost young. Glad I still have more.

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#1421 Post by David Mc » August 26th, 2019, 5:52 pm

2014 Carlisle Zinfandel Monte Rosso Vineyard

Interesting bottle, a bit disappointing.

On day 1, very strong tart taste, almost overpowering. I though it tasted faintly corked. On day 2, recovered a bit but still tarty but any perceived corked taste was gone. On day 3, seemed a bit normal, if somewhat bland and uninteresting. I can't recall a bottle that changed so much over three days. I found one note on CT that was similar to mine describing the tart taste but not the corky taste. First off bottle of all the Carlisle's I've had.
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#1422 Post by Frank Murray III » August 26th, 2019, 6:22 pm

Been sipping on the remnants of the 2013 Palisades from Saturday. It's a good wine, yet a big wine so after a glass, I had to recork it and revisit tomorrow. That wine probably can last on the kitchen counter for a week without falling apart.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Occidental Ridge SC
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#1423 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » August 30th, 2019, 9:32 pm

O M G 2012 Kirschenmann Zin is just an achievement.
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#1424 Post by Bud Carey » August 31st, 2019, 4:06 am

2014 Carlisle Vineyard zin... Yum!!
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#1425 Post by Matt Allen » August 31st, 2019, 5:24 am

2014 Montafi was really good this week after an hour in the decanter

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#1426 Post by Rich Brown » August 31st, 2019, 7:27 am

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:32 pm
O M G 2012 Kirschenmann Zin is just an achievement.
Nice! I need to get my hands on one of those. The 2012 Bedrock version was probably my favorite of the vintage so far - would love to see what Mike O did with the grapes that year.

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#1427 Post by Bryan Price » August 31st, 2019, 8:51 am

Popped a 2015 Esola two days ago....it was muted on day one. Put a repour on, day two it was a it more forthcoming but I'm not sure I even liked it more than day one. Maybe an off bottle?
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#1428 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » August 31st, 2019, 9:40 am

Rich Brown wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 7:27 am
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:32 pm
O M G 2012 Kirschenmann Zin is just an achievement.
Nice! I need to get my hands on one of those. The 2012 Bedrock version was probably my favorite of the vintage so far - would love to see what Mike O did with the grapes that year.
Crazy elegant, feminine, crescendo attack. Honestly one of the very best Carlisle Zins I have enjoyed.
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#1429 Post by Rich Brown » August 31st, 2019, 9:54 am

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 9:40 am
Rich Brown wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 7:27 am
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:32 pm
O M G 2012 Kirschenmann Zin is just an achievement.
Nice! I need to get my hands on one of those. The 2012 Bedrock version was probably my favorite of the vintage so far - would love to see what Mike O did with the grapes that year.
Crazy elegant, feminine, crescendo attack. Honestly one of the very best Carlisle Zins I have enjoyed.
VERY high praise coming from you my friend! I definitely need to grab one.

Thanks for the note!

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#1430 Post by Dave McIsaac » August 31st, 2019, 10:00 am

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 9:40 am
Rich Brown wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 7:27 am
Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:32 pm
O M G 2012 Kirschenmann Zin is just an achievement.
Nice! I need to get my hands on one of those. The 2012 Bedrock version was probably my favorite of the vintage so far - would love to see what Mike O did with the grapes that year.
Crazy elegant, feminine, crescendo attack. Honestly one of the very best Carlisle Zins I have enjoyed.
G, how would you compare this to Rossi Ranch?

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#1431 Post by dsimmons » September 1st, 2019, 1:02 pm

Had an '08 Dry Creek Syrah last night. WOW!

2008 Carlisle Syrah Dry Creek Valley - USA, California, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley (9/1/2019)
This is my first bottle of this delicious Syrah. Drank with slow cooker pot roast. The color was very inky. This mature Syrah was well balanced and concentrated with loads of fruit, licorice, herbs and earth. Absolutely loved it and happy to have a few more in the cellar. Drink or hold. (95 pts.)

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#1432 Post by Albert R » September 9th, 2019, 6:37 pm

2015 Papera-bright red fruit with a fair amount of acidity. Short finish. A little more balanced on day two.
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#1433 Post by Rich Brown » September 14th, 2019, 9:49 pm

2013 Compagni Portis

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#1434 Post by Dale McClaran » September 15th, 2019, 10:35 am

11 Sonoma Co. Zin - just shaking my head, this is my early drinking go to Carlisle yet this was so alive and fresh after 8 years. As this bottle was stolen from my dads cellar (I'll make it up to him - trust me) but I need to find a way not to drink my stash of these so quickly after release, is there a Carlisle support group I can attend? :)
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#1435 Post by dsimmons » September 15th, 2019, 12:30 pm

Dale McClaran wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 10:35 am
11 Sonoma Co. Zin - just shaking my head, this is my early drinking go to Carlisle yet this was so alive and fresh after 8 years. As this bottle was stolen from my dads cellar (I'll make it up to him - trust me) but I need to find a way not to drink my stash of these so quickly after release, is there a Carlisle support group I can attend? :)
I know I am an outlier but I prefer Carlisle zins 5-10 years from vintage and usually keep a few bottles past 10 with good results. In my experience age replaces some of the primary fruitiness with a more elegant flavor profile.
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#1436 Post by Jeremy C » September 15th, 2019, 2:09 pm

dsimmons wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 12:30 pm
Dale McClaran wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 10:35 am
11 Sonoma Co. Zin - just shaking my head, this is my early drinking go to Carlisle yet this was so alive and fresh after 8 years. As this bottle was stolen from my dads cellar (I'll make it up to him - trust me) but I need to find a way not to drink my stash of these so quickly after release, is there a Carlisle support group I can attend? :)
I know I am an outlier but I prefer Carlisle zins 5-10 years from vintage and usually keep a few bottles past 10 with good results. In my experience age replaces some of the primary fruitiness with a more elegant flavor profile.
Don, your approach is consistent with the Carlisle Drinking Window chart.
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#1437 Post by Jeremy C » September 15th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Just popped a 2014 Two Acres. Poured a bit in a glass to start the slow-ox. Immediately it has fragrant floral nose and a complex red fruited profile with a clean finish. This is one of the most open Carlisle wines I’ve experienced right after PnP.
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#1438 Post by AlexS » September 15th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
September 14th, 2019, 9:49 pm
2013 Compagni Portis

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^ I love this.

So the 2013 Compagni was still a little youthful?
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#1439 Post by matt d » September 16th, 2019, 7:13 am

Saturday had a 2011 Martinelli Road and Saitone Ranch both amazing and no need to wait. The Saitone Ranch had a great old school zin taste from all the mixed blacks (Alicante Bouschet, Grand Noir, and Petit Bouschet)
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#1440 Post by Rich Brown » September 16th, 2019, 9:22 am

AlexS wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 3:56 pm
Rich Brown wrote:
September 14th, 2019, 9:49 pm
2013 Compagni Portis

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^ I love this.

So the 2013 Compagni was still a little youthful?

It was in a great spot my man! I'd say it's just starting to enter a prime drinking window that should last for a long while (prob 5 to 8 years for my taste).

Still hanging onto that 2010 for when you finally get your ass out to AZ!! ;)

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#1441 Post by dave kammerer » September 16th, 2019, 9:51 am

Popped a 2011 Three Birds last night with pizza. Not as much fruit as I expected but still tasty.

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#1442 Post by dsimmons » September 16th, 2019, 11:06 am

Drank a '16 Papera Zin a few nights ago. Good but I will wait a year or two for next bottle.
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#1443 Post by Frank Murray III » September 16th, 2019, 5:45 pm

Man, this Mancini fruit is good.
  • 2017 Carlisle Zinfandel Mancini Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (9/16/2019)
    I'll join the passion that Neras posted in his previous note, too. The bottle for my note here was opened on Saturday morning, and it's now Monday afternoon. We had so much left that I have just been working through it the past few days. The bouquet on this stuff leaps out of the stem. Bramble, floral, reminding me of the aromas that come from a barrel sample, just a joy to take in. The palate starts with crisper red fruits like cranberry and maybe some black cherry, with the latter giving the wine a juicy note. And even after 2 full days open, there is structure remaining here, too. I really do like the Mancini vineyard and like the 2016 that wowed me last year for similar red fruits and structure with acid, the 2017 is not far off from that same profile, which tells me I need to keep buying it. Delicious wine.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Occidental Ridge SC
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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2017 Kutch Falstaff Sonoma Coast PN
2012 Marguet La Grande Ruelle Ambonnay

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#1444 Post by mark rudner » September 20th, 2019, 4:41 pm

2005 tom feeney zin
wow this is hot and gloppy
15.9 and seems every bit of it
one thing it does not seem is 14 years old
will let it sit for a while and see what happens

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