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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1201 Post by Peter Petersen » September 8th, 2018, 7:02 pm

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2014 Santa Cruz Chardonnay

I don't always drink Chardonnay, but when I do, I prefer Kutch.
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#1202 Post by J.Vizuete » September 8th, 2018, 10:18 pm

2016 Pagani zin. Ripe, blue fruited, a little lactic. Natural sweetness without being syrupy. Wonderful for what is. Didn’t feel any regret for opening this one.
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#1203 Post by Gary Zimberg » September 10th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Yesterday had the Family over for lunch for Rosh Hashana.... I did a 24 hour Sous Vide Corned Beef and made Rubens... Served with a '11 Derivative. Best white I have had from Carlisle so far. Guess I have been drinking them too young all along! Much better balance, and still TONS of fruit to resolve. I stopped buying the whites a few years ago, as they were too round and fruity for me.... Now I see they just need a lot more time.

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#1204 Post by Ian Alper » September 11th, 2018, 8:59 am

Gary - totally agree. I love the Derivative with some age on it. Drinking the 10 and 11 now. I slowed down on my Carlisle white wine purchases a few years ago but after drinking the '11 Derivative last year I began to load up again.

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#1205 Post by Rama Roberts » September 15th, 2018, 7:44 pm

  • 2013 Carlisle Zinfandel Dupratt Vineyard - USA, California, North Coast, Mendocino Ridge (9/15/2018)
    Hint of mint/evergreen and bold black fruit on the nose. Dominant saline element on the palate with the fruit pushed into the background. Finishes with spice and clean salinity with surprisingly no hint at its 15.6% girth.

    More on the savory than fruit side.

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Re: Which Carlisle are you drinking?

#1206 Post by Drew Goin » September 15th, 2018, 10:47 pm

J.Vizuete wrote:
September 8th, 2018, 10:18 pm
2016 Pagani zin. Ripe, blue fruited, a little lactic. Natural sweetness without being syrupy. Wonderful for what is. Didn’t feel any regret for opening this one.


TN's like these are going to lead to some prematurely popped bottles on my part! ;)

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#1207 Post by ky1em!ttskus » September 17th, 2018, 4:09 pm

The last of my 14s...

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#1208 Post by Robert M yers » September 23rd, 2018, 9:30 pm

2005 Pelkan Ranch Syrah ... tried to do my first CT cross post but couldn’t get it in this thread? Anyways was a real treat and holding up better than I expected to be honest.

Opened expecting to see more age than I did on this wine. Clearly some positive interesting evolution on the nose, that really draws interest. Still very dark and no appearance of age. Beautiful dark berry fruit on the palate with more time to go if you please. The only flaw here was a touch of heat on the finish which clips the great fruit a bit short.

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#1209 Post by dsimmons » September 24th, 2018, 11:16 am

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2005 Pelkan Ranch Syrah ... tried to do my first CT cross post but couldn’t get it in this thread? Anyways was a real treat and holding up better than I expected to be honest.

Opened expecting to see more age than I did on this wine. Clearly some positive interesting evolution on the nose, that really draws interest. Still very dark and no appearance of age. Beautiful dark berry fruit on the palate with more time to go if you please. The only flaw here was a touch of heat on the finish which clips the great fruit a bit short.
Thanks for the note Robert. I have one of these in the queue.
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#1210 Post by Chris H. » September 25th, 2018, 8:31 am

I opened a 2016 Russian River Valley "Piner-Olivet Ranches" Zinfandel, I need to keep my hands off of a wine so young, but it's lovely. I decanted 1 hour before, and I think the true drinking window would be a few years in bottle and would last at least 5-10 years. Such a pretty nose of red and black berries, orange peel, spice. Palate and finish a bit short for now but finishes with a lift and some acidity, but this is packed with flavor.

I need more discipline, but no regrets opening so young a bottle.
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#1211 Post by dsimmons » September 27th, 2018, 11:30 am

2008 Carlisle Syrah Papa's Block - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (9/27/2018)
My last of three bottles of this outstanding mature Syrah. Drank with grilled pork loin chops and sauteed fresh garden carrots. This is a wonderful bottle of CA Syrah so good and fairly priced that it defines QPR. Flavors perfectly integrated with loads of rich dark fruits, licorice and earthiness. So satisfying. Defiantly drinking at peak for my taste. If I had more I would be drinking these. (97 pts.)

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#1212 Post by Bud Carey » September 27th, 2018, 11:39 am

Just popped a 2012 Papa's block syrah.
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#1213 Post by Steve Gautier » September 27th, 2018, 11:45 am

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Just popped a 2012 Papa's block syrah.
This is in the rotation to b epulled soon. Will Ben interested to hear if it is ready on PnP or need some air.
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#1214 Post by Bud Carey » September 27th, 2018, 2:10 pm

Gave it two hours... absolutely sublime. Soft tannins. Just a touch of sweetness along with olive notes. Glad I have another one to hold for another year or two.
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#1215 Post by Steve Gautier » September 27th, 2018, 2:41 pm

Thanks. Stay dry. It sounds like we are getting more storms tonight.
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#1216 Post by Andrew Demaree » September 27th, 2018, 5:21 pm

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#1217 Post by Rich Brown » October 12th, 2018, 5:15 pm

2013 Derivative. Exactly what I was looking for to start the afternoon/evening. Beautiful light golden color with a complex citrus nose and bananas and figs on the palate. All washed down with ample acidity and a long finish. Excellent white as always from Mike O, and just starting to hit its stride with many years left in the tank.

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#1218 Post by dsimmons » October 13th, 2018, 12:14 pm

Had this last night. I am really starting to appreciate PS more and more. For me the key is enough bottle age.

2007 Carlisle Petite Sirah Dry Creek Valley - USA, California, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley (10/13/2018)
Delicious Petites drank with grilled barbecue chicken thighs. Black purple.
PnP. Big fruit, concentrated, well integrated. Good now and for years to come. (94 pts.)

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#1219 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » October 13th, 2018, 1:41 pm

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#1220 Post by Steve Gautier » October 19th, 2018, 4:42 pm

2011 James Berry Syrah. Absolutely fantastic.
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#1221 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » October 20th, 2018, 5:35 am

2012 Carlisle Syrah Sierra Mar Santa Lucia Highlands - wanted something full bodied on an unseasonably cold night. I will be heading south for the winter soon, and have been drinking syrahs and rhone style blends during my brief time with cool fall weather. This wine is still youthful - it definitely got better with each glass over the evening. But I wouldn't hesitate to open another one now, as the flavors and balance are there. Very much enjoyed this both with dinner and on its own. Mike O. delivers yet again.
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#1222 Post by Bud Carey » October 20th, 2018, 5:45 am

2010 Three Birds.
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#1223 Post by Scott E. » November 5th, 2018, 9:18 am

2011 Saitone Zin - This was drinking so well, it has to be near peak?! No reason to suspect that it will not hold or even get better though. Intense "zinberry" nose and flavor. Very balanced. Cheers!
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#1224 Post by Alan Rath » November 5th, 2018, 9:28 am

Drank my last 2007 Montafi Zin last week, it was in a perfect spot. Nicely resolved, but with plenty of youthful bite left. I'd say it's probably not going to develop a lot more from here, but it will last another decade or more.
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#1225 Post by larry schaffer » November 5th, 2018, 10:45 am

Had an 09 Carlisle Vineyard Zinfandel last night along with a bunch of other bottles. I wasn't able to concentrate on it as much as I wanted to, but a drink pretty nicely. I would say that it was very good, but not fantastic at this stage.
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#1226 Post by dsimmons » November 5th, 2018, 11:44 am

Alan Rath wrote:
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Drank my last 2007 Montafi Zin last week, it was in a perfect spot. Nicely resolved, but with plenty of youthful bite left. I'd say it's probably not going to develop a lot more from here, but it will last another decade or more.
I drank my last '07 in '13 but Montafi may be my favorite Carlisle Zin year in and year out.
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#1227 Post by Michael Martin » November 5th, 2018, 4:31 pm

‘15 Monte Rosso. For me these have been odd. I had a real primary, stewed fruit one earlier in the year. Tonight the bottle is good, but the 15.9% alcohol adds a noticeable burn and it seems to have a bitterness to what otherwise comes across as red fruits, pepper and licorice. Not my most favorite Monte Rosso.

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#1228 Post by Jeff Bloom » November 5th, 2018, 7:03 pm

I realized I have to basically drink a bottle of Carlisle a week just to stay flat and prevent it from taking over the cellar. Clearing room for the two cases delivered today, I opened two 2012 Zins, a Dupratt and Limerick Lane. Both really good but the Limerick Lane is fabulous, in a really nice place now.

Sometimes I think I need to cut back my buying and then I open the bottles and say, nah.

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#1229 Post by AlexS » November 5th, 2018, 7:24 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
November 5th, 2018, 4:31 pm
‘15 Monte Rosso. For me these have been odd. I had a real primary, stewed fruit one earlier in the year. Tonight the bottle is good, but the 15.9% alcohol adds a noticeable burn and it seems to have a bitterness to what otherwise comes across as red fruits, pepper and licorice. Not my most favorite Monte Rosso.
Monte Rosso is overrated, especially for Zin.

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#1230 Post by Michael Martin » November 6th, 2018, 4:35 am

AlexS wrote:
November 5th, 2018, 7:24 pm
Michael Martin wrote:
November 5th, 2018, 4:31 pm
‘15 Monte Rosso. For me these have been odd. I had a real primary, stewed fruit one earlier in the year. Tonight the bottle is good, but the 15.9% alcohol adds a noticeable burn and it seems to have a bitterness to what otherwise comes across as red fruits, pepper and licorice. Not my most favorite Monte Rosso.
Monte Rosso is overrated, especially for Zin.

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Yeah, I said it.
Inconsistent, I would agree.

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#1231 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 6th, 2018, 5:31 am

How are 2015s drinking in general?

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#1232 Post by AlexS » November 6th, 2018, 10:58 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
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How are 2015s drinking in general?
I haven't touched any 2015s yet...for more "recent" vintages, 2012 is really in the zone and I think Mike's 2014s are quite charming at present.
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#1233 Post by ky1em!ttskus » November 11th, 2018, 1:34 pm

2005 Dry Creek Valley Zin tonight

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#1234 Post by Rich Brown » November 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
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2005 Dry Creek Valley Zin tonight
Ohhh buddy. Dont tease us! Give us more!!

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#1235 Post by ky1em!ttskus » November 11th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 1:34 pm
2005 Dry Creek Valley Zin tonight
Ohhh buddy. Dont tease us! Give us more!!
Postponed. :(

Seeping cork. Waiting to hear back from the retailer if they’ll stand by the bottle if it’s bad before opening it.

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#1236 Post by Rich Brown » November 11th, 2018, 8:42 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:41 pm
Rich Brown wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 1:34 pm
2005 Dry Creek Valley Zin tonight
Ohhh buddy. Dont tease us! Give us more!!
Postponed. :(

Seeping cork. Waiting to hear back from the retailer if they’ll stand by the bottle if it’s bad before opening it.
Ughhh. Sorry to hear that brother. Such a bummer :(

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#1237 Post by cjsavino » November 12th, 2018, 5:05 am

Last night a 2015 James Berry Syrah, my god this was delicious
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#1238 Post by Peter Petersen » November 16th, 2018, 4:26 pm

Last night we had
‘15 Mancini
‘15 Montafi
Both were great if you don’t mind a bit of muscle. Mancini in particular showed well.
We were having a family of 6, that had been evacuated, for the night and it was clear the parents needed something to calm the nerves. Wines were big winners! Can’t imagine how stressful it must have been for them to move from place to place for a whole week. They were cordially invited back next time this happens.

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#1239 Post by dsimmons » November 19th, 2018, 6:37 pm

Love these aged Carlisles.

2005 Carlisle Syrah Pelkan Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Knights Valley (11/19/2018)
Delicious mature Syrah drank with Chili. This is definitely ready to drink. No rough edges at all. Very elegant with loads of fruit, spiciness, long finish. I even have another bottle to drink in the next year or two. (94 pts.)

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#1240 Post by Steve Gautier » November 21st, 2018, 7:17 pm

2011 Montafi Zin for National Zin Day. Very nice wine.
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#1241 Post by larry schaffer » November 21st, 2018, 8:12 pm

Opening an 07 Russian River Valley Syrah tomorrow - will report back . . .
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#1242 Post by Drew Goin » November 22nd, 2018, 6:26 am

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Last night we had
‘15 Mancini
‘15 Montafi
Both were great if you don’t mind a bit of muscle. Mancini in particular showed well.

Thanks for the tasting impressions, Peter!!

I have a bottle of the Carlisle 2015 "Mancini Vineyard" that I am waiting to pop in the next few months. I will probably try it against the '15 Reichwage and '13 Bohème interpretations of the same site.

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This is very touching. I am glad you were able to help someone who is going through some tough times. This speaks highly of your character! [berserker.gif]

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#1243 Post by Dale McClaran » November 22nd, 2018, 12:04 pm

16 Rossi Zin:

Quick note from a pop and pour: Red fruited a with lovely and cleansing streak of finely textured acidity - richness on the back half and finish, more than ample fruit throughout - should be a very versatile addition to my Carlisle stash as I can see this working with just about anything you would want with a red. (21 views)
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#1244 Post by ky1em!ttskus » November 25th, 2018, 10:33 am

Rich Brown wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:42 pm
ky1em!ttskus wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:41 pm
Rich Brown wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm


Ohhh buddy. Dont tease us! Give us more!!
Postponed. :(

Seeping cork. Waiting to hear back from the retailer if they’ll stand by the bottle if it’s bad before opening it.
Ughhh. Sorry to hear that brother. Such a bummer :(
Opened last night.... [winner.gif]

Fading, but not remotely brown color. Really big fruit nose with some tertiary elements. There's just a hint of tannin left and still some bright acidity (cool vintage?). We drank the wine over about three hours and in that time, it stayed fresh and delicious. It danced close to the line of being kind of port-y upon first opening, but with air, it brightened up. Exactly what I was hoping for.

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#1245 Post by Rich Brown » November 25th, 2018, 2:17 pm

Nice man - really glad that worked out for you! Sounds like a great wine. Love Carlisle.

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#1246 Post by jon leifer » November 26th, 2018, 6:51 pm

2011 Sonoma Zin
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#1247 Post by Peter Petersen » November 27th, 2018, 10:20 am

Two for Tgiving:
2013 DuPratt: This was a perfect match, more elegant and red fruited. Well balanced. I like this wine much more now than I did on release.

2012 Bedrock: A rather hefty and ponderous wine, maybe due to PS and Mourvedre? Might need several more years before being ready for this meal, but should be great with grilled lamb.

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#1248 Post by dsimmons » November 27th, 2018, 11:38 am

2008 Carlisle Petite Sirah California - USA, California (11/27/2018)
Delicious. PnP and drank with Thai meatballs. This wine was drinking very well. Big fruit, some acidity, sweet tannin. A step up from the bottle I drank in 2015. Drink or hold. Love these PS's with a bit of age. Still have one to try in as few years. (93 pts.)

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#1249 Post by Chris H. » November 28th, 2018, 6:25 pm

I couldn't be very patient, especially with the good early reviews on Cellar Tracker, but I Coravined a half bottle of the 2016 Carlisle Vineyard Zin. It's young yes, but is really drinking well. Tons of red and blue fruits, great balance between fruit, acid, and tannin. I think this one will age so well, but not a bad decision to open one now, if you have a few.
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#1250 Post by Michael Martin » November 29th, 2018, 11:00 am

'16 Papera. Young of course, but more old world than new world. Balanced fruit and minerality. One of the more enjoyable Carlisle's I have had in awhile.

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