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#1 Post by Peter Petersen » March 30th, 2015, 9:48 pm

Just to keep the theme going.
Tonight I popped the Dry Creek Zin from 2012. Probably one of the more exciting DCZs I've had. Darker and richer aromas, but still with the leaner DC profile you expect on the palate. Very nice length too and matched a home dry aged rib-eye to a T.

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#2 Post by Bud Carey » March 31st, 2015, 4:00 am

2012 Saitone Zin - opened too soon, but it was damn good!!!
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#3 Post by Dan Hammer » March 31st, 2015, 6:30 am

I drank the '06 Two Acres over the weekend. Drink or hold.
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#4 Post by AlexS » March 31st, 2015, 7:13 am

2012 Pagani Zin last weekend was delicious...pretty much the epitome of a Carlisle Zinfandel.
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#5 Post by Peter Petersen » March 31st, 2015, 7:46 am

I have an '06 TA on deck for this week.

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#6 Post by M Officer » March 31st, 2015, 8:46 am

Last night it was '13 Limerick Lane Zin (like a bowl full of zinberries!) and a '13 Pagani Alicante Bouschet (like essence of blackberry).
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#7 Post by Scott E. » March 31st, 2015, 8:51 am

M Officer wrote:Last night it was '13 Limerick Lane Zin (like a bowl full of zinberries!) and a '13 Pagani Alicante Bouschet (like essence of blackberry).
Oh yeah... I'm looking forward to that Alicante Bouschet!
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#8 Post by Peter Petersen » March 31st, 2015, 6:21 pm

The '12 DCZ evolved nicely for day. It now has a rounder more supple body. Why can't DCZ be like this more often?

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#9 Post by Peter Petersen » March 31st, 2015, 6:23 pm

M Officer wrote:Last night it was '13 Limerick Lane Zin (like a bowl full of zinberries!) and a '13 Pagani Alicante Bouschet (like essence of blackberry).
Bragging about your allocations ;)
I'd definitely love to pop a few young ones but not when I only have 2.

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#10 Post by Stu Fishler » March 31st, 2015, 8:07 pm

Tonite we opened (did not finish) an '08 Sonoma County Zin (screwcapped)- nicely aged beauty.
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#11 Post by J a y H a c k » March 31st, 2015, 9:04 pm

According to CT, I haven't had a Carlisle in 5 weeks, unless I forgot to write a note. No wonder I have been feeling poorly recently. I'll need to remedy the problem on Thursday night when my son comes home.
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#12 Post by Dale McClaran » April 1st, 2015, 6:56 pm

Fun thread.

I had the 09 Papera on Saturday, P&P and good to go from the opening bell. Pretty wine and full bodied, yet fresh and very smooth to drink, perfect with BBQ Ribs and pulled pork. I don't see much room for improvement but it should hold a spell if you are inclined to age further.
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#13 Post by Peter Petersen » April 3rd, 2015, 8:57 am

Every Friday is Carlisle night, it'll be either '06 TA or '09 Montafi or something else.

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#14 Post by Peter Petersen » April 3rd, 2015, 6:43 pm

'06 TA it is. Dark rich mulberry flavor with a hint of tree bark underneath. This shows as if it is just a few years old.
Some astringency still present on the after taste that may or may not disappear with more time in the bottle.
2/3rds saved for tomorrow when I'll also PPP and '06 Yorkville PS with bbq.

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#15 Post by Alan Eden » April 5th, 2015, 9:11 am

Friday had the 07 Papas Block Syrah, unfortunately it was badly corked. The cork itself was soft, snapped on opening.

Tried again with the same wine except 08, nice wine good dark fruits with strong backbone.
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#16 Post by Peter Petersen » April 5th, 2015, 10:59 am

Alen, Glad you finally had a good experience.

The TA was great on day two, no fall off whatsoever. The '06 Yorkville Pet is perhaps finally settling down to become a bit more civilized. For a Pet that is. Effusive nose of violets, blood, dark fruits. Intense palate, but tannins are in check. Perfect wines with BBQ.

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#17 Post by T Welch » April 5th, 2015, 5:10 pm

I just uncapped (decapped) a 2007 Cardiac Hill Syrah to have with braised lamb shanks.
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#18 Post by Scott Brunson » April 5th, 2015, 5:17 pm

13 Sonoma Zin.
We have lamb shanks braising too but they are tomorrow's dinner. [cheers.gif]
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#19 Post by Loren Sonkin » April 5th, 2015, 5:24 pm

Drinking a 2010 Syrah Bennet Valley right now. Quite good if a bit young.
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#20 Post by T Welch » April 5th, 2015, 5:25 pm

Loren Sonkin wrote:Drinking a 2010 Syrah Bennet Valley right now. Quite good if a bit young.
Loren, is that Cardiac Hill?

Edit: Just looked at the vintage chart to find it's not the Cardiac Hill.
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#21 Post by James Dennis » April 5th, 2015, 5:28 pm

We opened an '08 Rosella's syrah with our lamb. Really nice. It's in a good spot and doesn't appear to be fading. Not sure if it will improve but I have limited experience with Carlisle Rosella's. More familiar with various Rosella's pinots

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#22 Post by T Welch » April 5th, 2015, 5:47 pm

James Dennis wrote:We opened an '08 Rosella's syrah with our lamb. Really nice. It's in a good spot and doesn't appear to be fading. Not sure if it will improve but I have limited experience with Carlisle Rosella's. More familiar with various Rosella's pinots
Did you pick up any of that Rosella's Syrah grapefruit?
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#23 Post by James Dennis » April 5th, 2015, 7:19 pm

To be honest, no. I wasn't really looking for it though, was more focused on the lamb which had just come off the green egg.

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#24 Post by Ian Alper » April 5th, 2015, 11:06 pm

I needed some comfort this week so had to open two. I am loving the 2011's! A few nights ago it was the 2011 Saitone Ranch Zin. Never heard of this one - perhaps the first year? Great from the start but continued to open up over two nights.

The Steiner Vineyard Syrah (2011) was interesting. The first night I thought perhaps mildly corked - slightly off flavor and no nose. Second night it had transformed into a beautiful syrah, balanced, supple, great mouth feel and layers of flavor with enough acid to make it go pop. Last sip for breakfast on day 3 and it was still going strong. Sad it was my last bottle.

In another thread someone suggested that you should stick to the ones you know and love with Mike's wines but bottles like the Steiner make me question this idea. I have had so many new Carlisle wines over the last few years that have made me glad to have stretched my order even if it is only single bottles.

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#25 Post by T Welch » April 7th, 2015, 5:52 pm

Just opened a 2007 Carignane, Papera Ranch, Russian River Valley.
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#26 Post by B o b S h e l d o n » April 7th, 2015, 6:24 pm

Last night we had a 2011 Saitone Zin. Just wonderful - probably my favorite 2011 Carlisle Zin yet. I think the 2011s are just starting to open up now.

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#27 Post by P. D e r d e y n » April 9th, 2015, 7:51 pm

2013 Sonoma County Zinfandel - If there was ever such a thing as "delicate" Zin this is it. A really pretty wine done in a style I haven't come across often. I was surprised to see it listed at 15% ABV, where is all of that hiding? I keep these in the daily drinker cellar because of the price, but they really would benefit from a couple years. Decanted for 1 hr tonight, but next time I'll give it 3-4 if possible.
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#28 Post by Mike Zimbric » April 9th, 2015, 7:53 pm

Opened the 2013 CMP last night. Really nice, summery white wine, green and yellow fruit, candle wax, and a crisp finish. Great with fish.
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#29 Post by Matt Mauldin » April 9th, 2015, 9:32 pm

Some gushing note on CT about the 2013 Sonoma County Syrah... need to crack one open.
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#30 Post by P. D e r d e y n » April 10th, 2015, 7:53 am

Had one of those a few weeks ago, don't know if my review was gushing but I certainly enjoyed the wine. I'm a fairly recent buyer of Carlisle so still getting an understanding of the house style but I was surprised by the Sonoma County Syrah and Zin in their lighter style when compared to the Three Birds or the Papera.
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#31 Post by Alan Eden » April 10th, 2015, 2:58 pm

Cardiac hill 2007 Syrah

Nervous, im having a run of bad luck with Carlisle, opened this way early to see what happens with air. Cork was soft so im even more anxious
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#32 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » April 10th, 2015, 4:23 pm

2011 Montafi with lunch today. Thanks given.
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#33 Post by David Kaufman » April 10th, 2015, 7:13 pm

2013 Zinfandel Sonoma County. With deconstructed Bison burgers. Wine seems a bit too young; at least with the limited air time since it was P&P

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#34 Post by T Welch » April 10th, 2015, 8:30 pm

2009 Bedrock Zin with ribs.
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#35 Post by Peter Petersen » April 10th, 2015, 9:16 pm

'09 Montafi on deck as well as the '13 CMP for the weekend.

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#36 Post by Sean Moore » April 11th, 2015, 11:38 am

2011 Derivative and 2011 Mouvedre last night. Both were excellent.

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#37 Post by Alan Eden » April 11th, 2015, 12:01 pm

Alan Eden wrote:Cardiac hill 2007 Syrah

Nervous, im having a run of bad luck with Carlisle, opened this way early to see what happens with air. Cork was soft so im even more anxious
Wine was OK, nice nose but the finish was way shorter than you would hope for.

Im getting really really baffled by Carlisle, the good ones ive had are fantastic and everyone else seems to have no issues but for me its getting to a point of not having confidence in the bottles prior to opening
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#38 Post by Drew Goin » April 13th, 2015, 9:38 pm

Peter Petersen wrote:
M Officer wrote:Last night it was '13 Limerick Lane Zin (like a bowl full of zinberries!) and a '13 Pagani Alicante Bouschet (like essence of blackberry).
Bragging about your allocations ;)
I'd definitely love to pop a few young ones but not when I only have 2.
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#39 Post by Mikhail Lipyanskiy » April 14th, 2015, 5:40 am

LOL now that was good!!!
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#40 Post by Brady Daniels » April 14th, 2015, 5:46 am

Peter Petersen wrote:'09 Montafi on deck as well as the '13 CMP for the weekend.
I have my second to last '09 Montafi sitting right next to my last '07. I'm trying to think of an excuse to try them side by side.

The last time I had the '07, it was my favorite zin of the new millennium. Maybe it still is?
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#41 Post by Brady Daniels » April 14th, 2015, 5:53 am

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Alan Eden wrote:Cardiac hill 2007 Syrah

Nervous, im having a run of bad luck with Carlisle, opened this way early to see what happens with air. Cork was soft so im even more anxious
Wine was OK, nice nose but the finish was way shorter than you would hope for.

Im getting really really baffled by Carlisle, the good ones ive had are fantastic and everyone else seems to have no issues but for me its getting to a point of not having confidence in the bottles prior to opening
Alan, I'm not making excuses for Carlisle, but Cardiac Hill was Mike's leanest, most European Syrah, grown on an extremely severe hillside, and I loved it. Could that lean Euro-ness correspond with what you describe as short?

Anyway, I think it was way less popular than say, Papa's Block, and Mike no longer makes it.

I miss Carlisle Cardiac Hill. :(
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#42 Post by Tom Blackwood » April 14th, 2015, 6:27 am

2004 Carlo's Zinfandel on Sunday night...this wine is in a perfect spot...rich, jammy, zin berry fruit and vanilla spice. Slightly sweet fruit with no tannins. Drink up...Yum!
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#43 Post by Peter Petersen » April 14th, 2015, 8:01 am

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Peter Petersen wrote:'09 Montafi on deck as well as the '13 CMP for the weekend.
I have my second to last '09 Montafi sitting right next to my last '07. I'm trying to think of an excuse to try them side by side.

The last time I had the '07, it was my favorite zin of the new millennium. Maybe it still is?
'07 Montafi is probably one of the best zins ever made. Enjoy!
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#44 Post by John Webber » April 14th, 2015, 10:12 am

Looking at CT, I own more bottles of Carlisle than the # I have consumed since 2006. Considering Carlisle is also the largest producer total in the cellar, I think I need to get busy and contribute to this thread. I'll start with the 2005s.

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#45 Post by Dale McClaran » April 14th, 2015, 11:52 am

Peter Petersen wrote:
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Peter Petersen wrote:'09 Montafi on deck as well as the '13 CMP for the weekend.
I have my second to last '09 Montafi sitting right next to my last '07. I'm trying to think of an excuse to try them side by side.

The last time I had the '07, it was my favorite zin of the new millennium. Maybe it still is?
'07 Montafi is probably one of the best zins ever made. Enjoy!
A big + 1 on the 07 Montafi, best Zin I have ever had.

07 Papa's block was opened on Saturday, a very nice and complete wine. I must say though, my expectations were sky high, probably too much so, as I thought I would have been even more enamored with it.
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#46 Post by David Lewin » April 14th, 2015, 9:37 pm

2009 Carlisle Vineyard Zinfandel. Continues to drink very well. Its balance suggests that it's at its peak, but I think it will hold for a few year. I'll try the 2007 next week.

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#47 Post by William Segui » April 15th, 2015, 12:56 pm

08 JBV - very youthful, needed much more air than it got. Got so little air because it was delicious and we killed it quickly.

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#48 Post by Joe B » April 15th, 2015, 9:08 pm

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#49 Post by Alan Rath » April 15th, 2015, 9:40 pm

2012 Two Acres. Needed 24 hours to really show what it has, lush, deep red fruit, excellent acidity and balance, fantastically flavorful. Despite the predominant mourvedre, makes me thing of a riper year Vieux Telegraphe.
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#50 Post by HiltonDG » April 16th, 2015, 6:25 pm

Peter Petersen wrote:
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Peter Petersen wrote:'09 Montafi on deck as well as the '13 CMP for the weekend.
I have my second to last '09 Montafi sitting right next to my last '07. I'm trying to think of an excuse to try them side by side.

The last time I had the '07, it was my favorite zin of the new millennium. Maybe it still is?
'07 Montafi is probably one of the best zins ever made. Enjoy!
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