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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2751 Post by Sean_S » July 16th, 2020, 10:13 pm

Glenn L e v i n e wrote:
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I am keeping this to 6 bottles, I am keeping this to 6 bottles, I am keeping this to 6 bottles...
6 bottles of each?
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#2752 Post by Steve Gautier » July 18th, 2020, 11:00 am

Morgan and Chris released the two podcasts covering the upcoming release
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#2753 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » July 18th, 2020, 11:36 am

Steve Gautier wrote:
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Morgan and Chris released the two podcasts covering the upcoming release
Thanks!
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#2754 Post by AD Northup » July 18th, 2020, 3:51 pm

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#2755 Post by Mattstolz » July 18th, 2020, 5:28 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
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If I wanted to only get 6 bottles of this great offering, which ones would you guys recommend? I did a case a few months ago and got 4x Heritage, 3x Ode Lucien Red Wine, 2x Old Vine Zin, 3x Ode to Lulu Rose. Any recs appreciated!
this is a great release because there are some great foundational bedrock wines in the list.

if you're keeping it to 6 id go:
2 Calico Syrah
1 Bedrock heritage
1 Evangelho
1 Old hill ranch
1 Bien Nacido Syrah

I imagine you'll get about 100 combinations for answers here. But if you've had some OVZ before Id go for the other "bargain" bottle here and go for the Syrah vineyard blend (calico). these like $20ish Syrahs are IMO the sleeper of everything Bedrock makes. They drink well from release to several years down the road while the Heritage blends rest. also, I semi-secretly think that Bedrock does Syrah better than anything else, plus they're all made with grapes from the amazing vineyards they work with. they are THE cellar defender in my house.
You have inside info on prices?
so, after listening to the podcast and a little research I was definitely wrong on the price I think. Morgan mentioned that Galloni reviewed the Calico last year before it had a name and listed his review as "name TBD Bedrock Syrah 2018".... Galloni's review lists the price as $65. Either he was WAY off, or my complete guess was.

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#2756 Post by Mattstolz » July 18th, 2020, 5:29 pm

Also, opened up a 2018 Evangelho and after an hour or so in the glass it has some really pretty and powerful aromatics. delicious!

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#2757 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » July 18th, 2020, 6:03 pm

Mattstolz wrote:
July 18th, 2020, 5:28 pm
Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
July 15th, 2020, 5:25 pm
Mattstolz wrote:
July 15th, 2020, 5:21 pm


this is a great release because there are some great foundational bedrock wines in the list.

if you're keeping it to 6 id go:
2 Calico Syrah
1 Bedrock heritage
1 Evangelho
1 Old hill ranch
1 Bien Nacido Syrah

I imagine you'll get about 100 combinations for answers here. But if you've had some OVZ before Id go for the other "bargain" bottle here and go for the Syrah vineyard blend (calico). these like $20ish Syrahs are IMO the sleeper of everything Bedrock makes. They drink well from release to several years down the road while the Heritage blends rest. also, I semi-secretly think that Bedrock does Syrah better than anything else, plus they're all made with grapes from the amazing vineyards they work with. they are THE cellar defender in my house.
You have inside info on prices?
so, after listening to the podcast and a little research I was definitely wrong on the price I think. Morgan mentioned that Galloni reviewed the Calico last year before it had a name and listed his review as "name TBD Bedrock Syrah 2018".... Galloni's review lists the price as $65. Either he was WAY off, or my complete guess was.
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#2758 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » July 22nd, 2020, 10:31 am

14 Lorenzo’s is a spicy mofo. Might be my favorite BR, vintage in/vintage out.

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#2759 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 22nd, 2020, 3:20 pm

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#2760 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » July 23rd, 2020, 10:06 am

Pulled a 14 Judge Sauvignon Blanc last night with a weird, on-the-fly Cioppino we made. I loved this wine but family just sort of liked it.

This was reminiscent of Abe’s wild SBs but clearly more restrained. I have more and I’m happy I do.
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#2761 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » July 23rd, 2020, 2:01 pm

I have a 2015 Old Vine Zinfandel on deck. Can't wait to be off service tomorrow :D
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#2762 Post by Albert R » July 23rd, 2020, 3:38 pm

We are thoroughly enjoying a 2015 Dolinsek this evening!
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#2763 Post by Mike Ott » July 23rd, 2020, 7:18 pm

Visiting the in-laws in south Jersey. Go to the local liquor store (very large place) and they’ve got Bedrock.....and older vintages. Lots of collected dust but bottles look in good shape so took a chance. Currently a quarter way through a 13 OVZ and very happy with the purchases. Beautiful wine and only way I’ll have an OVZ with this just age as mine don’t last the year.

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#2764 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » July 23rd, 2020, 7:30 pm

Albert R wrote:
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We are thoroughly enjoying a 2015 Dolinsek this evening!
How is a Dolinsek with this much “age” on it? Have only had it young when it tastes like blueberry pie.
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#2765 Post by Albert R » July 24th, 2020, 5:11 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 7:30 pm
Albert R wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 3:38 pm
We are thoroughly enjoying a 2015 Dolinsek this evening!
How is a Dolinsek with this much “age” on it? Have only had it young when it tastes like blueberry pie.
The fruit certainly has toned down although we got more red cherry fruit along with some earthy tones. The complexity and finish continued to improve over 3 hours. We had a 2016 last year that was definitely in the blueberry pie wheelhouse which we also liked.
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#2766 Post by Greg Gardner » July 24th, 2020, 6:13 pm

2016 Evangelho in the freakin’ zone right now. The citrus aromatics are so enticing...

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#2767 Post by A r i n Travis » July 24th, 2020, 7:21 pm

2018 California Syrah, hour decant. Less grippy than the last one a couple months ago (or whenever it was, COVID has affected my sense of time). Just got back from Costco - '18 OZV in stock @$21.49.

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#2768 Post by Vince T » July 25th, 2020, 5:27 am

2017 Sky Zinfandel. Seemed like a darker, more brooding cousin of Evangelho. Super tannic and shut down on day 2, and I'm wondering if this (like Nervo) needs some age to really shine. I'm really curious how these super gnarly cuvees will show in 10+ years.
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#2769 Post by Steve Gautier » July 25th, 2020, 9:36 am

Vince T wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 5:27 am
2017 Sky Zinfandel. Seemed like a darker, more brooding cousin of Evangelho. Super tannic and shut down on day 2, and I'm wondering if this (like Nervo) needs some age to really shine. I'm really curious how these super gnarly cuvees will show in 10+ years.
On release, Morgan said 2020-2030+, so I don’t plan on opening one for 4 or 5 more years.
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#2770 Post by Vince T » July 25th, 2020, 10:55 am

Steve Gautier wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 9:36 am
Vince T wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 5:27 am
2017 Sky Zinfandel. Seemed like a darker, more brooding cousin of Evangelho. Super tannic and shut down on day 2, and I'm wondering if this (like Nervo) needs some age to really shine. I'm really curious how these super gnarly cuvees will show in 10+ years.
On release, Morgan said 2020-2030+, so I don’t plan on opening one for 4 or 5 more years.
Seems like a wise plan.
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#2771 Post by MikeHill » July 25th, 2020, 10:45 pm

2016 Weill a Way Syrah.

PNP. Young but still accessible. Dark purple color. On the nose and palate both savory notes and dark fruit, black plum. Primary, but well balanced with fresh acidity and slightly grainy tannins. Bit of white pepper on the finish. So good now, will only get better.

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#2772 Post by Rich Brown » July 25th, 2020, 11:03 pm

Vince T wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 10:55 am
Steve Gautier wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 9:36 am
Vince T wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 5:27 am
2017 Sky Zinfandel. Seemed like a darker, more brooding cousin of Evangelho. Super tannic and shut down on day 2, and I'm wondering if this (like Nervo) needs some age to really shine. I'm really curious how these super gnarly cuvees will show in 10+ years.
On release, Morgan said 2020-2030+, so I don’t plan on opening one for 4 or 5 more years.
Seems like a wise plan.

I have not opened a bottle yet (also plan on waiting), but for reference, this wine was incredible as a barrel sample. Stood out to me amongst a bunch of great Bedrock wines. I'm certainly no expert when it comes to predicting what the future may hold based off of a barrel sample.....but if I was a betting man, my money would be on this being a killer wine in a handful of years :)

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#2773 Post by Vince T » July 26th, 2020, 4:32 am

Rich Brown wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 11:03 pm
Vince T wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 10:55 am
Steve Gautier wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 9:36 am


On release, Morgan said 2020-2030+, so I don’t plan on opening one for 4 or 5 more years.
Seems like a wise plan.

I have not opened a bottle yet (also plan on waiting), but for reference, this wine was incredible as a barrel sample. Stood out to me amongst a bunch of great Bedrock wines. I'm certainly no expert when it comes to predicting what the future may hold based off of a barrel sample.....but if I was a betting man, my money would be on this being a killer wine in a handful of years :)
Thanks for the data point Rich. On day 3, it definitely showed the best. The lesson here is that the mountain Zins really need 10+ years to shine their best. To me, that list includes:
Nervo
Sky
Monte Rosso
... any others?
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#2774 Post by James Mc » July 26th, 2020, 4:52 pm

‘18 OVZ. Decanted 2hrs prior and then consumed over the subsequent 2 hours. Great showing, everyone everyone very much enjoyed. All agreed it continued to get better with time (until it was gone).
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#2775 Post by Adam G » July 29th, 2020, 12:03 pm

Opened a 2017 Pato Heritage last night that I got from a fellow Berserker - probably only the second or third Bedrock I've opened myself. Corked! Have there been any significant cork issues with Bedrock or was I just supremely lucky?
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#2776 Post by Rich Brown » July 29th, 2020, 12:27 pm

Adam G wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 12:03 pm
Opened a 2017 Pato Heritage last night that I got from a fellow Berserker - probably only the second or third Bedrock I've opened myself. Corked! Have there been any significant cork issues with Bedrock or was I just supremely lucky?
Ughhh, bummer man! I think I've had one corked bottle ever out of quite a few, so I'd chalk it up as being unlucky.

Good news is that I'm sure Morgan/Chris will replace it if you shoot em a quick note :)

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#2777 Post by Brian Tuite » July 29th, 2020, 1:09 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 12:27 pm
Adam G wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 12:03 pm
Opened a 2017 Pato Heritage last night that I got from a fellow Berserker - probably only the second or third Bedrock I've opened myself. Corked! Have there been any significant cork issues with Bedrock or was I just supremely lucky?
Ughhh, bummer man! I think I've had one corked bottle ever out of quite a few, so I'd chalk it up as being unlucky.

Good news is that I'm sure Morgan/Chris will replace it if you shoot em a quick note :)
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#2778 Post by Adam G » July 29th, 2020, 3:19 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 12:27 pm
Adam G wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 12:03 pm
Opened a 2017 Pato Heritage last night that I got from a fellow Berserker - probably only the second or third Bedrock I've opened myself. Corked! Have there been any significant cork issues with Bedrock or was I just supremely lucky?
Ughhh, bummer man! I think I've had one corked bottle ever out of quite a few, so I'd chalk it up as being unlucky.

Good news is that I'm sure Morgan/Chris will replace it if you shoot em a quick note :)
I'm sure they would, but I'd feel bad asking as I've never made a direct purchase. (I know, I know...heresy in these parts!)
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#2779 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » July 29th, 2020, 3:50 pm

James Mc wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 4:52 pm
‘18 OVZ. Decanted 2hrs prior and then consumed over the subsequent 2 hours. Great showing, everyone everyone very much enjoyed. All agreed it continued to get better with time (until it was gone).
I've noticed this to be a consistent flaw across the entire range and across vintages. The flavors really seems to drop off a cliff, no matter which bottling, starting with the 751st ml or so of every bottle. Very frustrating. [head-bang.gif]

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#2780 Post by amjohnstone » July 29th, 2020, 6:37 pm

Not going to lie. I've reluctantly concluded I don't love how Morgan treats syrah. But this 2011 Bedrock Griffin's Lair still is pretty great. Loads of black fruit, roasted meat, black pepper, and olive. And an incredible velvety mouth feel. This still has legs, crazy legs ahead of it. If I had any prospect of grandkids, they might be drinking this at its peak. Instead, I'll drink this in my dotage and smile.
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#2781 Post by Rich Brown » July 30th, 2020, 7:47 am

amjohnstone wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 6:37 pm
Not going to lie. I've reluctantly concluded I don't love how Morgan treats syrah. But this 2011 Bedrock Griffin's Lair still is pretty great. Loads of black fruit, roasted meat, black pepper, and olive. And an incredible velvety mouth feel. This still has legs, crazy legs ahead of it. If I had any prospect of grandkids, they might be drinking this at its peak. Instead, I'll drink this in my dotage and smile.
Great note as always my friend! And you know I agree with you on Syrah, but i just dont drink a ton of it in general. However....I am looking forward to the day (long down the road) when I open my maggie of the 09 Ancient Vines Syrah, as well as my 13's. Recent cellar tracker note on the 09 was less than glowing though, so hopefully that was just an off bottle.

Thanks again for the note - we need more of those from you!! :)

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#2782 Post by Dale McClaran » July 30th, 2020, 8:31 am

2015 Bedrock Wine Co. The Bedrock Heritage - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (7/30/2020)
The more Bedrock I drink the more I am coming around to the fact that while a few of the reds drink well young, they need to sleep before the real party starts. With that in mind, after 5 years this Bedrock Heritage has up opened somewhat. Reserved notes of black raspberry play off clay and briary notes, good acidity and freshness. The back end shows a lot of power indicating this still has many years to go. Drink now with a long decant. (93 points)
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#2783 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 30th, 2020, 5:36 pm

Gorgeous.

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I honestly never know when to drink my Bedrocks, and usually pop them too early, but even though this wine has the typical structure one associates with this vineyard, its just flat out gorgeous (yes, chewy) right now.

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#2784 Post by Jeremy C » July 30th, 2020, 6:22 pm

I love this wine and believe that there is no wrong time to pop one. It drinks well early and with years on it (had a 2010 a couple of months ago which performed quite well).

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#2785 Post by Adam Frisch » July 30th, 2020, 7:52 pm

I remember my first time drinking the Heritage, prob around 2015-2016? It really blew my mind. I even schlepped a few bottles with me for my Xmas trip to Sweden and served it for the christmas dinner there! Everyone really enjoyed it.
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#2786 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » August 1st, 2020, 10:09 am

15 SB Staves of Waidhofen was delicious and picked up tons of melon after being opened an hour.

Way more typical SB than the 14 Judge but I loved both wines.
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#2787 Post by Greg Gardner » August 3rd, 2020, 2:17 pm

2012 Cuvee Karatas (from the spring supplemental release): I found this was excellent right out of the gate and didn't really change that much after the first 15-20 minutes open. I see why this was released this past spring, as it's really right in the zone. The Semillion dominates the nose with wax/lanolin, mango, and the classic fig note. Much the same on the palate but here we get the acidic lift from the SB. There's a bit of wood present but it's not at all dominant or distracting. If you don't enjoy that heavy figgy Semillion profile, this might not be your style. I loved it and found that on a warm summer evening, it was a brilliant match with salade nicoise from our backyard garden.

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#2788 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm

2018 Enz Heritage - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon, but it's what I wanted to try.
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#2789 Post by Greg Gardner » August 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm

What did you think of the Enz? I popped one early in Covid times, decanted, and followed it over 4-5 hours. It didn't really budge and I couldn't believe how shut down it was. I'll be holding my other bottle for several more years.

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#2790 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 3rd, 2020, 4:13 pm

2.5 hours in, and I would not say closed, but rather grapey.
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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2791 Post by Scott Watkins » August 3rd, 2020, 6:31 pm

14 Bedrock Heritage hell yes!
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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2792 Post by Vince T » August 5th, 2020, 6:47 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
July 15th, 2020, 5:40 pm
Mattstolz wrote:
July 15th, 2020, 5:21 pm
Rodrigo F. wrote:
July 15th, 2020, 7:28 am
If I wanted to only get 6 bottles of this great offering, which ones would you guys recommend? I did a case a few months ago and got 4x Heritage, 3x Ode Lucien Red Wine, 2x Old Vine Zin, 3x Ode to Lulu Rose. Any recs appreciated!
this is a great release because there are some great foundational bedrock wines in the list.

if you're keeping it to 6 id go:
2 Calico Syrah
1 Bedrock heritage
1 Evangelho
1 Old hill ranch
1 Bien Nacido Syrah

I imagine you'll get about 100 combinations for answers here. But if you've had some OVZ before Id go for the other "bargain" bottle here and go for the Syrah vineyard blend (calico). these like $20ish Syrahs are IMO the sleeper of everything Bedrock makes. They drink well from release to several years down the road while the Heritage blends rest. also, I semi-secretly think that Bedrock does Syrah better than anything else, plus they're all made with grapes from the amazing vineyards they work with. they are THE cellar defender in my house.
Ha! You'll definitley get 100+ combinations as I actually feel the exact opposite in that Morgan really shines with the zin/zin-blends, and I don't buy the Syrahs at all.

I'm also probably in the minority in that I've never really dug Evangelho. Absolutley love the story and always want to like it..
.but it never shines for me.

That being said, I'd remove both Syrahs and the Evangelho from your list and add Dolinsek and Esola. Opened my first 15 the other day and chose Esola. FIRE!! Def do not sleep on that one!
I just opened my first Esola (‘17) tonight and it might be the best Bedrock zin I’ve had.

My note:
An elegant beast of a zin. High toned, with a combo of pretty red fruit and degraded black fruit - reminds me of apple-raspberry fruit leather, in a good way. Strawberry-basil, clove, cocoa powder, chalky minerals and a firm line of acid. The extreme ripeness is carried through the mid-palate to the finish with freshness and is not tiring in the least. A transparent view into a special terroir. Formidable tannins and broad structure - I see this improving for at least 5-7 years. Really really fine. 94+
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