What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

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#2051 Post by **AlexS** » February 4th, 2019, 4:52 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2019, 10:27 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2019, 7:02 am
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2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Papera Ranch - best '13 Bedrock I have had BY FAR! Excellent and improved with each class. Think the 13's are finally in their drinking window (for me)!
YES!! Totally agree Sherri - Had the Papera and Carlisle back in Dec and they were the first wines from 13 that I have enjoyed/felt like were finally entering their drinking window. You should try the Carlisle next- I actually preferred that one slightly more (bit deeper/more savory and a nice hint of mint that was really nice)

So I opened a 2013 Papera and yeah, it was pretty good...but man alive, it was tight as nails! To be fair, we killed the bottle in 90 minutes (yeah, the stupid bowl was really stupid this year lol) so it really didn't get tons of air but based on all the positives, was super surprised at how closed it was showing! I'm probably not gonna open up another one for 2-3 years, maybe more. It was clearly a super high quality bottle of Bedrock tho, can't wait for the fireworks!

Otoh, drinking a 2013 Carlisle Papera tonight and just dayum.

T Welch · #2052 Post by **T Welch** » February 4th, 2019, 8:28 pm

2009 Dolinsek Ranch Heirloom Wine. Beautiful, expressive nose and oh so juicy.

EHeffner · #2053 Post by **EHeffner** » February 5th, 2019, 8:03 am

Any idea when their 2018 rose will release? I think 2017 dropped around the same time

#2054 Post by **Rich Brown** » February 5th, 2019, 8:18 am

T Welch wrote: ↑
February 4th, 2019, 8:28 pm
2009 Dolinsek Ranch Heirloom Wine. Beautiful, expressive nose and oh so juicy.

Mmmm. I loved that wine. Drank my last one about a year ago. BIG wine (especially for Bedrock standards) but so damn tasty.

#2055 Post by **Rich Brown** » February 5th, 2019, 8:26 am

AlexS wrote: ↑
February 4th, 2019, 4:52 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2019, 10:27 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2019, 7:02 am
BEDROCK '13 PAPERA.jpg

2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Papera Ranch - best '13 Bedrock I have had BY FAR! Excellent and improved with each class. Think the 13's are finally in their drinking window (for me)!
YES!! Totally agree Sherri - Had the Papera and Carlisle back in Dec and they were the first wines from 13 that I have enjoyed/felt like were finally entering their drinking window. You should try the Carlisle next- I actually preferred that one slightly more (bit deeper/more savory and a nice hint of mint that was really nice)
So I opened a 2013 Papera and yeah, it was pretty good...but man alive, it was tight as nails! To be fair, we killed the bottle in 90 minutes (yeah, the stupid bowl was really stupid this year lol) so it really didn't get tons of air but based on all the positives, was super surprised at how closed it was showing! I'm probably not gonna open up another one for 2-3 years, maybe more. It was clearly a super high quality bottle of Bedrock tho, can't wait for the fireworks!

Otoh, drinking a 2013 Carlisle Papera tonight and just dayum.

I hear you buddy - I feel like the Bedrock 13's are still improving for sure....but at least starting to hit their drinking window. 6 months ago, I was getting zero pleasure from them (aside from the OVZ)

And so crazy about the Carlisle 13's and how well they're drinking vs. Bedrock. I'll have to pull a Papera soon!

P. D e r d e y n · #2056 Post by **P. D e r d e y n** » February 5th, 2019, 9:05 am

EHeffner wrote: ↑
February 5th, 2019, 8:03 am
Any idea when their 2018 rose will release? I think 2017 dropped around the same time

It will be in the release next week. I saw that Morgan was already pouring it at some events last weekend.

Josh H · #2057 Post by **Josh H** » February 7th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Any idea as to when the Save the Date will come out? I believe it was the 6th last year, with the offering being on the 13th.

Morgan Twain-Peterson · #2058 Post by **Morgan Twain-Peterson** » February 7th, 2019, 10:41 pm

Josh H wrote: ↑
February 7th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Any idea as to when the Save the Date will come out? I believe it was the 6th last year, with the offering being on the 13th.

Spring Release will be out on the 19th, Save the Date will be out the 12th. We are finalizing the wines but there will be some fun stuff on there including 18 Lulu (maybe my favorite ever), 16 Sky Syrah, 17 Montecillo Cab, 17 Lorenzo's Heritage and Nervo Heritage, 17 Chuy Chard and a few others. I will post the notes when I get them written!

Josh H · #2059 Post by **Josh H** » February 8th, 2019, 5:22 am

Morgan Twain-Peterson wrote: ↑
February 7th, 2019, 10:41 pm

Josh H wrote: ↑
February 7th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Any idea as to when the Save the Date will come out? I believe it was the 6th last year, with the offering being on the 13th.
Spring Release will be out on the 19th, Save the Date will be out the 12th. We are finalizing the wines but there will be some fun stuff on there including 18 Lulu (maybe my favorite ever), 16 Sky Syrah, 17 Montecillo Cab, 17 Lorenzo's Heritage and Nervo Heritage, 17 Chuy Chard and a few others. I will post the notes when I get them written!

Excellent, looking forward to it. Thanks Morgan!

T Welch · #2060 Post by **T Welch** » February 10th, 2019, 5:37 pm

2014 Alta Vista Gewurztraminer.

ky1em!ttskus · #2061 Post by **ky1em!ttskus** » February 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm

Opened a ‘16 OVZ last night. Wine had made its way all the way up to the top of the cork and the wine was off, for sure.

EHeffner · #2062 Post by **EHeffner** » February 12th, 2019, 7:27 am

Save the date should be coming out today

#2063 Post by **JDavisRoby** » February 12th, 2019, 3:07 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote: ↑
February 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm
Opened a ‘16 OVZ last night. Wine had made its way all the way up to the top of the cork and the wine was off, for sure.

Bought one of these from retail yesterday. Good chance it gets opened tonight. Hopefully it isn’t corked.

Was $26+ tax. That isn’t too much of a premium for these wines is it?

ky1em!ttskus · #2064 Post by **ky1em!ttskus** » February 12th, 2019, 3:09 pm

JDavisRoby wrote: ↑
February 12th, 2019, 3:07 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote: ↑
February 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm
Opened a ‘16 OVZ last night. Wine had made its way all the way up to the top of the cork and the wine was off, for sure.
Bought one of these from retail yesterday. Good chance it gets opened tonight. Hopefully it isn’t corked.

Was $26+ tax. That isn’t too much of a premium for these wines is it?

Basically list + shipping.

#2065 Post by **ykwon** » February 13th, 2019, 6:52 pm

JDavisRoby wrote: ↑
February 12th, 2019, 3:07 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote: ↑
February 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm
Opened a ‘16 OVZ last night. Wine had made its way all the way up to the top of the cork and the wine was off, for sure.
Bought one of these from retail yesterday. Good chance it gets opened tonight. Hopefully it isn’t corked.

Was $26+ tax. That isn’t too much of a premium for these wines is it?

If it ends up being corked I would reach out to Chris or Morgan. They would stand behind their product.

#2066 Post by **Carlton McCrindle** » February 13th, 2019, 9:04 pm

2012 Kick Ranch Sauvignon Blanc. We remembered this vintage's better days. This one got buried in the cellar.

David Baum · #2067 Post by **David Baum** » February 14th, 2019, 11:34 am

2017 OVZ with a Slaters 50/50 burger. Drank beautifully and amazing qpr at $20

#2068 Post by **Rich Brown** » February 15th, 2019, 4:59 pm

2013 Pagani Heritage.

YES - Another enjoyable 13! Vintage is just starting to enter its drinking window and this bottle is further proof. Dusty purple fruit taking center stage with lots of acidity and a nice finish. Still plenty of room to develop further but worth popping one now to check in if you have multiples.

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#2069 Post by **JDavisRoby** » February 16th, 2019, 6:32 pm

ykwon wrote: ↑
February 13th, 2019, 6:52 pm

JDavisRoby wrote: ↑
February 12th, 2019, 3:07 pm

ky1em!ttskus wrote: ↑
February 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm
Opened a ‘16 OVZ last night. Wine had made its way all the way up to the top of the cork and the wine was off, for sure.
Bought one of these from retail yesterday. Good chance it gets opened tonight. Hopefully it isn’t corked.

Was $26+ tax. That isn’t too much of a premium for these wines is it?
If it ends up being corked I would reach out to Chris or Morgan. They would stand behind their product.

Finally opened it tonight. It’s fantastic.

#2070 Post by **Brian S t o t t e r** » February 17th, 2019, 7:08 am

Opened the 2017 Pato last night. Two hour decant. Reminds me of the Weill O'Way Mixed Blacks but with more savory character and a more polished mouthfeel overall. Black fruits, black pepper, espresso, smoke, a little meat, purple flowers, and dried herbs.

Rory K. · #2071 Post by **Rory K.** » February 20th, 2019, 7:06 pm

Just opened a 2013 Griffin's Lair Syrah. Super smokey, dark and brooding, under ripe blackberry, black pepper, violets. Palate was still fairly tight, savory, and tannic even with a long decant. Recommend opening either younger or older than this!

#2072 Post by **Brian Tuite** » February 20th, 2019, 8:35 pm

Tonight an ‘11 Old Vine Zinfandel that was in full stride from the moment I pulled the cork. Warm strawberry rhubarb pie with dried flowers sprinkled on top. Very Nebbiolo-like nose. Soft sweet red fruit, Zin berry spice, resolved tannins. Would love to source more of these. A real treat.

#2073 Post by **MikeMy** » February 22nd, 2019, 9:14 am

Anybody's juice from Monte Rosso is something I just can't pass up. In the case of Bedrock - I was allways ALL IN.

This week I yanked the cork on a 2012, the 1st of 4 purchased in '13 straight from Bedrock
Gave it a 60 minute breather. Our expectations were rewarded. Lots of fruit, spice and berries. Just divine. Of coarse I wished I bought more.
It calls for a good ribeye IMHO.

To bad Gallo closed the doors to the little guys.

#2074 Post by **Brian Tuite** » February 22nd, 2019, 9:37 am

MikeMy wrote: ↑
February 22nd, 2019, 9:14 am
in '13.

To bad Gallo closed the doors to the little guys.

That was short lived. Bedrock has a Monte Rosso coming out next year.

#2075 Post by **MikeMy** » February 22nd, 2019, 10:56 am

Brian Tuite wrote: ↑
February 22nd, 2019, 9:37 am

MikeMy wrote: ↑
February 22nd, 2019, 9:14 am
in '13.

To bad Gallo closed the doors to the little guys.
That was short lived. Bedrock has a Monte Rosso coming out next year.

Brian: Probably until the current contract runs out.

#2076 Post by **AD Northup** » February 22nd, 2019, 11:36 am

Opened a 2011 Kick Ranch Syrah last night thats absolutely singing. For my palate, absolutely perfect right now.

#2077 Post by **AlexS** » February 22nd, 2019, 1:47 pm

2012 Carignane Bedrock Vineyard

The definition of Bedrock greatness, this wine reminds me of the 2012 Kirschenmann, albeit with additional structure and more on the dark fruits spectrum. Although I was too into the Bucks/Celtics game to take a TN, shared this bottle with my Dad and we both gave each other that "wow" look upon first taste. A very special wine, even by the standards of Bedrock, very fortunate to have a couple bottles left as I think this one is still on the upward trajectory.

Morgan's 2012s are just fabulous, really starting to think this is my favorite Bedrock vintage overall, certainly so for drinking at present (even the Syrahs).

#2078 Post by **Michael Martin** » February 22nd, 2019, 2:51 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
February 22nd, 2019, 1:47 pm
2012 Carignane Bedrock Vineyard

The definition of Bedrock greatness, this wine reminds me of the 2012 Kirschenmann, albeit with additional structure and more on the dark fruits spectrum. Although I was too into the Bucks/Celtics game to take a TN, shared this bottle with my Dad and we both gave each other that "wow" look upon first taste. A very special wine, even by the standards of Bedrock, very fortunate to have a couple bottles left as I think this one is still on the upward trajectory.

Morgan's 2012s are just fabulous, really starting to think this is my favorite Bedrock vintage overall, certainly so for drinking at present (even the Syrahs).

I loved his Carignane. I only had a few bottles. One was slightly corked, but we drank it anyway...it was still so good.

#2079 Post by **P Turk** » March 3rd, 2019, 4:59 pm

2013 Bedrock Heritage.... sadly my only ‘13, but it was a fantastic Bedrock and paired well with Flannery NY Wagyu.

#2080 Post by **Roger Ouellette** » March 11th, 2019, 4:42 pm

Take out Chinese so naturally opened a '17 Wirz Vineyard Riesling. Fresh, vibrant, floral with that hint of petrol, creamy lemon pith, keylime, beautiful texture with just a bit of viscous semi-waxy feel, cleansing acidity and a fairly long finish. I wish I knew how this would age but I have a very hard time keeping my hands off all of the Bedrock whites that I have.

#2081 Post by **Sherri S h a p i r o** » March 15th, 2019, 5:32 am

2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Zinfandel Old Vine - was doing a bit of unpacking and then reorganizing in my wine room, and found this bottle, which wasn't in my CT. I had bought 6 back in 2014 and blew through them over the last year or 2, bringing or serving at multiple large crowd gatherings where it was a big hit. It is still drinking well with no signs of fading fruit or and still has the lush mouthfeel and qualities that make this one of the best QPR buys for me, year in and year out. Very enjoyable.

#2082 Post by **Brian Tuite** » March 15th, 2019, 6:12 am

‘18 Lulu - Good as ever

‘16 Oakville Farmhouse, because I could (thanks Roger). Very accessible, Dava absolutely loved it. The new Grassl Glas Cru were just as impressive.

#2083 Post by **Paul McCourt** » March 15th, 2019, 6:31 am

I was just going to buy a couple of bottles from this offering, yet somehow I have a case on the way. Odd how that happens, no?

It really is a sickness.

#2084 Post by **Brian Tuite** » March 15th, 2019, 6:35 am

Paul McCourt wrote: ↑
March 15th, 2019, 6:31 am
I was just going to buy a couple of bottles from this offering, yet somehow I have a case on the way. Odd how that happens, no?

It really is a sickness.

Don’t feel bad, I just received a case of Sandlands that I forgot I purchased. That’s now 4 cases of wine on the floor in the garage with nowhere to live. #storageissues

Good thing is, the cure is drinking wine!

#2085 Post by **Roger Ouellette** » March 15th, 2019, 2:32 pm

Brian Tuite wrote: ↑
March 15th, 2019, 6:12 am

‘16 Oakville Farmhouse, because I could (thanks Roger). Very accessible, Dava absolutely loved it. The new Grassl Glas Cru were just as impressive.

Glad you and D enjoyed the Farmhouse, I was somewhat surprised at how well it was tasting at Bedrock earlier that day.

#2086 Post by **bob poirier** » March 25th, 2019, 12:03 pm

14' Nervo Ranch, probably my favorite Bedrock blend so far. Really drinking well.

MBerto · #2087 Post by **MBerto** » March 25th, 2019, 12:17 pm

15 Compagni Portis white. I order these whites somewhat as an afterthought, perhaps after falling victim to Morgan's prose. But man they overdeliver. Beautifully perfumed, lightweight but substantial, hint of oak, perfectly balanced acidity.

#2088 Post by **AlexS** » March 29th, 2019, 6:49 pm

bamp

Had a bottle of 2015 Bedrock Zinfandel Esola the other night - wow! Easily one of the most red-fruited Bedrock Zins I've ever had, fruit was sumptuously juicy and full-flavored despite the wine being more on the elegant side in terms of both body and abv (14.4%) for a Bedrock Zin. Delicious juice, can't wait to try some more 2015s!

#2089 Post by **Michael Martin** » March 30th, 2019, 10:52 am

AlexS wrote: ↑
March 29th, 2019, 6:49 pm
bamp

Had a bottle of 2015 Bedrock Zinfandel Esola the other night - wow! Easily one of the most red-fruited Bedrock Zins I've ever had, fruit was sumptuously juicy and full-flavored despite the wine being more on the elegant side in terms of both body and abv (14.4%) for a Bedrock Zin. Delicious juice, can't wait to try some more 2015s!

I loved these too. Reminded me a bit of a Gigondas.

#2090 Post by **Michael Martin** » April 3rd, 2019, 4:33 pm

2018 Lulu
Best one yet.

#2091 Post by **Michael Martin** » April 12th, 2019, 4:48 am

2014 Bedrock Heritage. Not as layered as the ‘12, but highly enjoyable with a decant. Licorice, pepper and black/blue fruits.

Scott E. · #2092 Post by **Scott E.** » April 29th, 2019, 9:36 am

2012 Pagani Heritage - gave this three hours of air - I liked this better than the Bedrock Heritage, it seemed more harmonious with better balance - just a wee bit of oak noticeable.

#2093 Post by **JeremyMullman** » May 5th, 2019, 7:00 am

Bedrock question for the experts here:

I’ve recently signed up for the mailing list based on my enjoyment of Carlisle (an apparent kindred spirit) and the raves on this board.

I found a few 17s at retail to try to see if these are for me. Between the OVZ, Evangelho Heritage and Bedrock Heritage, what’s (1) enjoyable young and (2) a good window into the house style?

Also curious how, stylistically, these differ from Carlisle (aside from focus on field blends)?

Thx!!!

Josh H · #2094 Post by **Josh H** » May 5th, 2019, 7:24 am

JeremyMullman wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:00 am
Bedrock question for the experts here:

I’ve recently signed up for the mailing list based on my enjoyment of Carlisle (an apparent kindred spirit) and the raves on this board.

I found a few 17s at retail to try to see if these are for me. Between the OVZ, Evangelho Heritage and Bedrock Heritage, what’s (1) enjoyable young and (2) a good window into the house style?

Also curious how, stylistically, these differ from Carlisle (aside from focus on field blends)?

Thx!!!

You’ll be pleased! The Heritage needs several years. Do not drink it early (even with a decant), as it needs time to evolve.

The OVZ can be drunk young or with age. I personally love it going with about and hour and a half or so of a decant. Others prefer some age with it.

Enjoy!

#2095 Post by **Vince T** » May 5th, 2019, 8:30 am

JeremyMullman wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:00 am
Bedrock question for the experts here:

I’ve recently signed up for the mailing list based on my enjoyment of Carlisle (an apparent kindred spirit) and the raves on this board.

I found a few 17s at retail to try to see if these are for me. Between the OVZ, Evangelho Heritage and Bedrock Heritage, what’s (1) enjoyable young and (2) a good window into the house style?

Also curious how, stylistically, these differ from Carlisle (aside from focus on field blends)?

Thx!!!

I think having the OVZ and the Evangelho side by side make a good comparison. Both are considered early drinkers though I think they show best with a couple years+ of age. I last had the OVZ a couple months back and it was still showing a bit grapey, although less than the one I popped when it arrived. I find Evangelho to be the more aromatic and softer of the two, whereas OVZ can be a bit juicier and fleshier. My favorite of the “early drinkers” is Dolinsek - i’d Recommend grabbing one if you find it!

I think of Bedrock as the slightly smaller, nerdier and more thoughtful brother of Carlisle. Point Guard versus Power Forward, but clearly sharing genetic material.

#2096 Post by **Dave H.** » May 5th, 2019, 6:18 pm

Had the 2017 Judge Vineyard Sauvignon Blanc. Some vintages this is transcendently great sb—this one didn’t rise to the level of previous favorites but still a very nice wine.

Scott E. · #2097 Post by **Scott E.** » May 5th, 2019, 7:38 pm

JeremyMullman wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:00 am
Bedrock question for the experts here:

I’ve recently signed up for the mailing list based on my enjoyment of Carlisle (an apparent kindred spirit) and the raves on this board.

I found a few 17s at retail to try to see if these are for me. Between the OVZ, Evangelho Heritage and Bedrock Heritage, what’s (1) enjoyable young and (2) a good window into the house style?

Also curious how, stylistically, these differ from Carlisle (aside from focus on field blends)?

Thx!!!

In general, when you can compare apples-to-apples (like Monte Rosso), I think Bedrock comes across a little richer and aromatic with more emphasis on fruit, but it is a very fine line. The apples-to-apples thing is important because I think Carlisle focuses more on typical Zin and Zin+P-S whereas Bedrock is more focused on showcasing the historical field blend and to me, there is a big difference between the two. I'm partial to Carlisle because of that emphasis. Just one perspective! Cheers!

Scott E. · #2098 Post by **Scott E.** » May 13th, 2019, 9:18 am

2011 Bedrock Syrah T-n-S Block Hudson - Popped and poured. What an enjoyable Syrah - nothing poked out - everything was integrated and in balance. Dark fruits, olive, herbs and even touches of smoke, meat and pepper. Very glad I have one more bottle. Cheers!

#2099 Post by **JeremyMullman** » May 15th, 2019, 10:51 am

Scott E. wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:38 pm

JeremyMullman wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:00 am
Bedrock question for the experts here:

I’ve recently signed up for the mailing list based on my enjoyment of Carlisle (an apparent kindred spirit) and the raves on this board.

I found a few 17s at retail to try to see if these are for me. Between the OVZ, Evangelho Heritage and Bedrock Heritage, what’s (1) enjoyable young and (2) a good window into the house style?

Also curious how, stylistically, these differ from Carlisle (aside from focus on field blends)?

Thx!!!
In general, when you can compare apples-to-apples (like Monte Rosso), I think Bedrock comes across a little richer and aromatic with more emphasis on fruit, but it is a very fine line. The apples-to-apples thing is important because I think Carlisle focuses more on typical Zin and Zin+P-S whereas Bedrock is more focused on showcasing the historical field blend and to me, there is a big difference between the two. I'm partial to Carlisle because of that emphasis. Just one perspective! Cheers!

Thx! Tried the 2017 OVZ the other day and really liked it after an hour or so of airtime. (Was a little sweet/obvious at first but then it really opened up.) The red fruit and acid profile actually reminded me of some Tuscan reds I enjoy, although the spice profile was more classic zin. Great stuff and I can't wait to explore more of the portfolio.

Albert R · #2100 Post by **Albert R** » May 22nd, 2019, 6:16 pm

2015 OVZ-excellent, kept getting better over 4 hours. Can easily go another few years.