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#2001 Post by Steve Gautier » January 19th, 2019, 4:31 pm

2012 Bedrock Wine Co. Zinfandel Kirschenmann Vineyard - after trying a few Kirschenmann, I stopped buying. Morgan just makes too many different wines. After having this tonight, I may need to change that in the future. This was great on PnP. Light and lively with traditional Zin characteristics on the back-end.
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#2002 Post by Michael Martin » January 19th, 2019, 5:24 pm

Steve Gautier wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 4:31 pm
2012 Bedrock Wine Co. Zinfandel Kirschenmann Vineyard - after trying a few Kirschenmann, I stopped buying. Morgan just makes too many different wines. After having this tonight, I may need to change that in the future. This was great on PnP. Light and lively with traditional Zin characteristics on the back-end.
And that’s not even his best stuff.

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#2003 Post by Steve Gautier » January 19th, 2019, 5:30 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Steve Gautier wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 4:31 pm
2012 Bedrock Wine Co. Zinfandel Kirschenmann Vineyard - after trying a few Kirschenmann, I stopped buying. Morgan just makes too many different wines. After having this tonight, I may need to change that in the future. This was great on PnP. Light and lively with traditional Zin characteristics on the back-end.
And that’s not even his best stuff.
Oh, I know that. Bedrock is by far the largest producer in my cellar.
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#2004 Post by AlexS » January 19th, 2019, 5:58 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Steve Gautier wrote:
January 19th, 2019, 4:31 pm
2012 Bedrock Wine Co. Zinfandel Kirschenmann Vineyard - after trying a few Kirschenmann, I stopped buying. Morgan just makes too many different wines. After having this tonight, I may need to change that in the future. This was great on PnP. Light and lively with traditional Zin characteristics on the back-end.
And that’s not even his best stuff.
Completely disagreed, 2012 Bedrock Kirschenmann Zinfandel has been an epiphany Zin for me and many others. Morgan really works some magic with the Zin from Tegan's vineyard.
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#2005 Post by Albert R » January 20th, 2019, 6:45 am

I had the 2013 Bedrock Kirschenmann Zinfandel last year at this time and it was excellent.

Last weekend we had the 2013 Bedrock Heritage Dolinsek Ranch which was ok but I expected more complexity. Even after 4 hours in the decanter it remained pretty closed. If you have these hold them for another couple of years.
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#2006 Post by AlexS » January 20th, 2019, 10:05 am

Albert, agreed on the 2013 Dolinsek, opened one up a few weeks ago and while it was perfectly fine the wine seemed to be going through a disjointed phase. My impression was it could use 8-12 months to sort itself out, maybe a bit longer.
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#2007 Post by Dale McClaran » January 20th, 2019, 10:53 am

2017 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Evangelho Vineyard (USA, California, San Francisco Bay, Contra Costa County) Click to view 174 label images Add to my wishlist 1/20/2019 Dale M 91
Cork was popped about 6 hrs before, but not decanted. One of the really fun aspects of being on the list with Bedrock (and Carlisle of coarse) is the sheer quantity of sites that one gets to try, and as the old saying goes, no two wines taste alike. True here as the fruit profile had a unquie cherry / loam quality that I could quite place in my memory of Bedrock / Carlisle wines. Deceptive acidity keeps things humming along, and all in all this is very nice and drinking well right out of the gate.
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#2008 Post by P Turk » January 20th, 2019, 4:50 pm

2016 Esola ... usually wait another 2-3 years, but was 50% off at Binny’s (Chicago suburbs). Really getting the cherries and grapefruit notes. Went really well with homemade jambalaya.
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#2009 Post by Michael Martin » January 20th, 2019, 5:10 pm

P Turk wrote:
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2016 Esola ... usually wait another 2-3 years, but was 50% off at Binny’s (Chicago suburbs). Really getting the cherries and grapefruit notes. Went really well with homemade jambalaya.
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#2010 Post by JMFrawley » January 25th, 2019, 11:12 am

I wonder when Morgan will release the notes on the Spring release?
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#2011 Post by P. D e r d e y n » January 25th, 2019, 12:57 pm

We're still a couple weeks out from release, but Morgan is pretty good at giving us a sneak peak a few days early if we ask nicely
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#2012 Post by Chuck J o r d a n » January 26th, 2019, 9:05 pm

When are you going to drink the 2017 heritage sonoma?
Going to pop one open this year or hold for a few?

Probably a dumb question... but, I have no idea what would be best.

From the site:
This is going to age quite well, though similar to 2015, this could be consumed slightly earlier thanks to the delicious fruit.
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#2013 Post by Rich Brown » January 27th, 2019, 8:19 am

Chuck J o r d a n wrote:
January 26th, 2019, 9:05 pm
When are you going to drink the 2017 heritage sonoma?
Going to pop one open this year or hold for a few?

Probably a dumb question... but, I have no idea what would be best.

From the site:
This is going to age quite well, though similar to 2015, this could be consumed slightly earlier thanks to the delicious fruit.
Drink 2019-2030+
Hey Chuck, welcome to the board!

Everyone will have different opinions, but I feel like most here who drink Bedrock often agree that, with a couple exceptions (Dolinsek, maybe Weil Mixed Blacks), the heritage wines demand at least 5 years in the cellar. Can you drink then prior to that with a decant? Sure. But its WELL worth it to try and keep your hands off of them.

For reference, the 2012's are drinking great right now, while the 13's (seems to be a more structured vintage overall) are still pretty tight and require more time sideways.

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#2014 Post by Chuck J o r d a n » January 27th, 2019, 8:35 am

Rich Brown wrote:
January 27th, 2019, 8:19 am
Chuck J o r d a n wrote:
January 26th, 2019, 9:05 pm
When are you going to drink the 2017 heritage sonoma?
Going to pop one open this year or hold for a few?

Probably a dumb question... but, I have no idea what would be best.

From the site:
This is going to age quite well, though similar to 2015, this could be consumed slightly earlier thanks to the delicious fruit.
Drink 2019-2030+
Hey Chuck, welcome to the board!

Everyone will have different opinions, but I feel like most here who drink Bedrock often agree that, with a couple exceptions (Dolinsek, maybe Weil Mixed Blacks), the heritage wines demand at least 5 years in the cellar. Can you drink then prior to that with a decant? Sure. But its WELL worth it to try and keep your hands off of them.

For reference, the 2012's are drinking great right now, while the 13's (seems to be a more structured vintage overall) are still pretty tight and require more time sideways.
Thank You! I’ll mark them for 2023. Now, I’m wishing I purchased more so I can try them yearly to see how they develope.

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#2015 Post by ykwon » January 27th, 2019, 4:35 pm

Probably too young but...
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#2016 Post by P Turk » January 27th, 2019, 6:53 pm

Yes, too young ... but went with a 2016 North Coast Syrah. Such a great QPR and tasty with a hour decant.
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#2017 Post by Steve Gautier » January 31st, 2019, 7:44 pm

2013 Pagani and 2013 Old Vine Zin. While the Pagani was better, both were fantastic and it was amazing how the OVZ stood up against the Pagani.
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#2018 Post by JDavisRoby » January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm

I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
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#2019 Post by ykwon » January 31st, 2019, 8:27 pm

I would grab the north coast Syrah and old vine. Those are the entry level and are blends from their single vineyards. Should give you a good idea of the profile
and style of the wines. And they are good for the price!
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#2020 Post by T Fletcher » January 31st, 2019, 8:30 pm

JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm
I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
The Heritage...no brainer (unless it's marked up too much).
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#2021 Post by JDavisRoby » January 31st, 2019, 8:40 pm

T Fletcher wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:30 pm
JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm
I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
The Heritage...no brainer (unless it's marked up too much).
Mid-30’s price point?
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#2022 Post by JDavisRoby » January 31st, 2019, 8:41 pm

JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm
I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
I’m a big fan of Pax’s Hermit Syrah, which is considered North Coast (believe he’ll be renaming that wine North Coast Syrah with next release). Is the Bedrock North Coast similar?
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#2023 Post by jcoley3 » January 31st, 2019, 8:52 pm

JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm
I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
The Heritage blends are all solid. Personally, I love the Evangelho bottling as I love the way the Mourvedre component shows. And, as the Heritage bottlings are at the core of what Bedrock is doing, I think that's a great way to jump in.
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#2024 Post by Chuck J o r d a n » January 31st, 2019, 8:54 pm

JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:40 pm
T Fletcher wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:30 pm
JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:08 pm
I’m admittedly new to Bedrock. Here is what reds are available at retail locally. Any recommendations on what the first 2-3 I should try?

Evangelho Heritage - 15 & 16
Bedrock Heritage - 15 & 16
Pagano Ranch Heritage - 15 & 16
Old Vine Zin - 15
North Coast Syrah - 2016
The Heritage...no brainer (unless it's marked up too much).
Mid-30’s price point?
Yes. What store?

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#2025 Post by Rich Brown » January 31st, 2019, 9:01 pm

ykwon wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:27 pm
I would grab the north coast Syrah and old vine. Those are the entry level and are blends from their single vineyards. Should give you a good idea of the profile
and style of the wines. And they are good for the price!
Yep, I think that's the play here for sure.

And even though these are the entry level wines, make sure to give them plenty of air as even the 15 OVZ will still be pretty tight.

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#2026 Post by JDavisRoby » January 31st, 2019, 9:02 pm

Chuck J o r d a n wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:54 pm
JDavisRoby wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:40 pm
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January 31st, 2019, 8:30 pm


The Heritage...no brainer (unless it's marked up too much).
Mid-30’s price point?
Yes. What store?
CellarTracker value was listed in mid-30’s. It’ll probably be a few bucks more at local retail. If it’s available locally at a reasonable price I try to support my local shop rather than buying online.
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#2027 Post by T Fletcher » February 1st, 2019, 7:22 am

At mid-$30s, buy both the 2015 and 2016 Heritage. All the grapes are from the Bedrock Vineyard and it's the heart of the operation.

All the wines you listed are terrific. I love the Pagani year over year but IMO, the Heritage is the best starting point.
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#2028 Post by JDavisRoby » February 1st, 2019, 7:47 am

Sounds like I need to just get one of everything available. [berserker.gif]
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#2029 Post by Rich Brown » February 1st, 2019, 8:13 am

Not a bad idea!!

As others have said all the Heritage wines are awesome (Evangelho is my least favorite in that lineup by a wide margin), but just an FYI they demand at least 5 years of age and will drink really well for a long time past that. For reference, both the 2007 Lorenzo's and 2008 Bedrock were crazy good a few months ago.

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#2030 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 1st, 2019, 11:40 am

Finally got around to opening my winter shipment, planning to open a 2017 Pato, 2017 Papera, and 2016 Sodini in the next few days. Any decanting tips?
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#2031 Post by ykwon » February 1st, 2019, 5:36 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
February 1st, 2019, 11:40 am
Finally got around to opening my winter shipment, planning to open a 2017 Pato, 2017 Papera, and 2016 Sodini in the next few days. Any decanting tips?
Hyper decant in a blender. LOL
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#2032 Post by C Wagner » February 2nd, 2019, 5:15 pm

I may be getting a bit overeager but does anyone know when we’re due for the next release?
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#2033 Post by T Welch » February 2nd, 2019, 5:26 pm

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#2034 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 2nd, 2019, 6:02 pm

I opened a 2017 Papera Heritage tonight. Drinks great after 4 hours in the decanter. Lovely balance of ripe, though not jammy, blue fruits, spice, and acidity.
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#2035 Post by Bryce K » February 2nd, 2019, 6:48 pm

2013 Gibson Ranch Heritage - really nice, drinking perfectly to my taste.
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#2036 Post by Joe B » February 2nd, 2019, 7:38 pm

Opened up my last 2012 Bedrock Monte Rosso. This is my favorite wine the MTP makes/made. It is really drinking fantastic and has plenty of years in front of it. If you are down to one, you can wait.
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#2037 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 2nd, 2019, 7:43 pm

Joe B wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:38 pm
Opened up my last 2012 Bedrock Monte Rosso. This is my favorite wine the MTP makes/made. It is really drinking fantastic and has plenty of years in front of it. If you are down to one, you can wait.
I thought I read somewhere that Morgan was able to get Monte Rosso back again for future vintages, is this true?

Either way, I stocked up on the 2016s and have a couple 2014s. Trying to hold onto these.
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#2038 Post by Joe B » February 2nd, 2019, 7:49 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:43 pm
Joe B wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:38 pm
Opened up my last 2012 Bedrock Monte Rosso. This is my favorite wine the MTP makes/made. It is really drinking fantastic and has plenty of years in front of it. If you are down to one, you can wait.
I thought I read somewhere that Morgan was able to get Monte Rosso back again for future vintages, is this true?

Either way, I stocked up on the 2016s and have a couple 2014s. Trying to hold onto these.
That would be great news. Hope it’s true. I was lucky and went deep on the 2015’s
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#2039 Post by Rich Brown » February 2nd, 2019, 10:29 pm

Joe B wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:49 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:43 pm
Joe B wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 7:38 pm
Opened up my last 2012 Bedrock Monte Rosso. This is my favorite wine the MTP makes/made. It is really drinking fantastic and has plenty of years in front of it. If you are down to one, you can wait.
I thought I read somewhere that Morgan was able to get Monte Rosso back again for future vintages, is this true?

Either way, I stocked up on the 2016s and have a couple 2014s. Trying to hold onto these.
That would be great news. Hope it’s true. I was lucky and went deep on the 2015’s
Yep, they got at least one more vintage....but not sure if anything is guaranteed past that

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#2040 Post by Brian Tuite » February 3rd, 2019, 5:41 am

Needed something fresh and forward the otger might so I popped a ‘15 Carlisle Vineyard. Only got a glass out of it that didn’t get much air. Pretty, primary blue and purple fruit, nice heft. Wsh I could have spent more time and followed for a couple three days. I remember back in the day when I’d pop three Bedrocks a week. This reminded me why.
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#2041 Post by Drew Goin » February 3rd, 2019, 5:44 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
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Needed something fresh and forward the otger might so I popped a ‘15 Carlisle Vineyard. Only got a glass out of it that didn’t get much air. Pretty, primary blue and purple fruit, nice heft. Wsh I could have spent more time and followed for a couple three days. I remember back in the day when I’d pop three Bedrocks a week. This reminded me why.

Thanks for the tasting note, Brian!!

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#2042 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » February 3rd, 2019, 7:02 am

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2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Papera Ranch - best '13 Bedrock I have had BY FAR! Excellent and improved with each class. Think the 13's are finally in their drinking window (for me)!

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#2043 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 3rd, 2019, 10:15 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
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2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Papera Ranch - best '13 Bedrock I have had BY FAR! Excellent and improved with each class. Think the 13's are finally in their drinking window (for me)!
Which other 2013s have you had so far?
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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2044 Post by Rich Brown » February 3rd, 2019, 10:27 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 7:02 am
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2013 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Papera Ranch - best '13 Bedrock I have had BY FAR! Excellent and improved with each class. Think the 13's are finally in their drinking window (for me)!
YES!! Totally agree Sherri - Had the Papera and Carlisle back in Dec and they were the first wines from 13 that I have enjoyed/felt like were finally entering their drinking window. You should try the Carlisle next- I actually preferred that one slightly more (bit deeper/more savory and a nice hint of mint that was really nice)

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#2045 Post by AlexS » February 3rd, 2019, 11:14 am

Thx for the reminder, I've gotta pull a '13 Papera, stat!
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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2046 Post by Mark Fister » February 3rd, 2019, 12:01 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
January 27th, 2019, 8:19 am
Chuck J o r d a n wrote:
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When are you going to drink the 2017 heritage sonoma?
Going to pop one open this year or hold for a few?

Probably a dumb question... but, I have no idea what would be best.

From the site:
This is going to age quite well, though similar to 2015, this could be consumed slightly earlier thanks to the delicious fruit.
Drink 2019-2030+
Hey Chuck, welcome to the board!

Everyone will have different opinions, but I feel like most here who drink Bedrock often agree that, with a couple exceptions (Dolinsek, maybe Weil Mixed Blacks), the heritage wines demand at least 5 years in the cellar. Can you drink then prior to that with a decant? Sure. But its WELL worth it to try and keep your hands off of them.

For reference, the 2012's are drinking great right now, while the 13's (seems to be a more structured vintage overall) are still pretty tight and require more time sideways.
I concur with Rich - these wines will typically hit their stride after 5 years. I'm working my way through '08s and '09s at the moment and the patience is paying dividends big time!

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#2047 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 3rd, 2019, 7:52 pm

Recently found the 2013 Montecillo Cabernet on clearance for $75 at a store near me. Didn’t pull the trigger, but has anyone had this vintage and is this a reasonable price?
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1987 Dunn Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mountain
1990 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf-du-Pape
1993 Edmunds St. John Zinfandel Amador County

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#2048 Post by Steve Gautier » February 3rd, 2019, 8:12 pm

Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 7:52 pm
Recently found the 2013 Montecillo Cabernet on clearance for $75 at a store near me. Didn’t pull the trigger, but has anyone had this vintage and is this a reasonable price?
It was $55 on release. I don’t plan on opening one for at least five more years.
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#2049 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » February 4th, 2019, 2:32 am

Steve Gautier wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 8:12 pm
Brian S t o t t e r wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 7:52 pm
Recently found the 2013 Montecillo Cabernet on clearance for $75 at a store near me. Didn’t pull the trigger, but has anyone had this vintage and is this a reasonable price?
It was $55 on release. I don’t plan on opening one for at least five more years.
Wow, and this place had its original retail price of $125. I’m going to pass.
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1987 Dunn Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mountain
1990 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf-du-Pape
1993 Edmunds St. John Zinfandel Amador County

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#2050 Post by P. D e r d e y n » February 4th, 2019, 7:19 am

Had the 2015 Cuvee Karatas over the weekend alongside a Y d'Yquem and an R de Rieussec and it held its own very nicely.
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