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#1801 Post by Dale McClaran » July 30th, 2018, 10:08 am

2014 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Dolinsek Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (7/30/2018)
Decanted 2 hrs. This wine was open for biz when I had it in June of 2016, and now, wide open. So generous in its fruit, really ‘Zin Berry’ is the best descriptor, as its a hybrid of black berry and sweet, ripe cherry. The underlying structure avoids this as coming off as jammy or what not, and I loved a late arriving note of black licorice on the finish. Awesome Bedrock. (94 points)
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#1802 Post by AlexS » August 3rd, 2018, 6:10 pm

Not tonight, but I had the 2014 Nervo a few nights ago -- such a beautiful wine. I'd rank it up there as one of the most well-balanced bottles of Bedrock I've ever had, like drinking liquid silk.
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#1803 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 3rd, 2018, 7:00 pm

2015 Gibson Ranch Heritage, and holy mother of god is it good!
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#1804 Post by J.Vizuete » August 3rd, 2018, 10:46 pm

2016 heritage.. like an impatient doofus
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#1805 Post by Rich Brown » August 4th, 2018, 12:09 am

AlexS wrote:Not tonight, but I had the 2014 Nervo a few nights ago -- such a beautiful wine. I'd rank it up there as one of the most well-balanced bottles of Bedrock I've ever had, like drinking liquid silk.
Nice note as always my friend! Haven't tried any 14's yet but this certainly makes me want to!

Popped a 13 Weil Mixed Blacks tonight. Pretty good, but still tasted painfully wound up to me, and this is typically one of my favorite early drinkers. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that all 13 Bedrocks are just demanding more time (other than the OVZ...which is tasty but still has miles to go). I literally have not tried a single vineyard yet that I thought was ready to rock.
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#1806 Post by J.Vizuete » August 4th, 2018, 6:30 am

That’s a pretty slick cellar you have there
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#1807 Post by Brian S t o t t e r » August 4th, 2018, 7:35 am

Yes, we need more cellar pics of the Bedrock!
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#1808 Post by AlexS » August 4th, 2018, 8:48 am

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AlexS wrote:Not tonight, but I had the 2014 Nervo a few nights ago -- such a beautiful wine. I'd rank it up there as one of the most well-balanced bottles of Bedrock I've ever had, like drinking liquid silk.
Nice note as always my friend! Haven't tried any 14's yet but this certainly makes me want to!

Popped a 13 Weil Mixed Blacks tonight. Pretty good, but still tasted painfully wound up to me, and this is typically one of my favorite early drinkers. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that all 13 Bedrocks are just demanding more time (other than the OVZ...which is tasty but still has miles to go). I literally have not tried a single vineyard yet that I thought was ready to rock.
The 13s are beasts!! That said, much appreciate the note on the 2013 Weil a Way, always one of my faves...sounds like I need to forget about it for now though! As of late, I've been really loving the 2012s and 2014s, so much WIN. Might be time to start opening some more 2015s as well.

Btw Rich, at some point within the next 1-2 years we really need to start thinking about planning a retrospective tasting with the other Bedrock heads...although it doesn't feel like it, quickly approaching a DECADE of buying Bedrock! [wow.gif] Commemoration is needed!!
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#1809 Post by Rich Brown » August 4th, 2018, 9:25 am

J.Vizuete wrote:That’s a pretty slick cellar you have there
Ha! Thanks man! Seems like Bedrock continues to occupy more and more of it. Just cant stop buying- every release has way too much good stuff!

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#1810 Post by Rich Brown » August 4th, 2018, 9:31 am

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AlexS wrote:Not tonight, but I had the 2014 Nervo a few nights ago -- such a beautiful wine. I'd rank it up there as one of the most well-balanced bottles of Bedrock I've ever had, like drinking liquid silk.
Nice note as always my friend! Haven't tried any 14's yet but this certainly makes me want to!

Popped a 13 Weil Mixed Blacks tonight. Pretty good, but still tasted painfully wound up to me, and this is typically one of my favorite early drinkers. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that all 13 Bedrocks are just demanding more time (other than the OVZ...which is tasty but still has miles to go). I literally have not tried a single vineyard yet that I thought was ready to rock.
The 13s are beasts!! That said, much appreciate the note on the 2013 Weil a Way, always one of my faves...sounds like I need to forget about it for now though! As of late, I've been really loving the 2012s and 2014s, so much WIN. Might be time to start opening some more 2015s as well.

Btw Rich, at some point within the next 1-2 years we really need to start thinking about planning a retrospective tasting with the other Bedrock heads...although it doesn't feel like it, quickly approaching a DECADE of buying Bedrock! [wow.gif] Commemoration is needed!!
Totally agree my man - 12's are in such a good spot right now. Dont think I've been disappointed by a single one. I need to start trying some 14's from the sound of it.

And YES, we seriously need to make that happen. I'd be all about making a trip for that. I'm sure we could get at least a handful of people interested. Let's connect via PM at some point and start tossing around some ideas.

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#1811 Post by Rob Isaacs » August 4th, 2018, 11:12 am

08 Kick Ranch Syrah. Purple as can be and after smelling I wouldn't think this was going on ten years old. Tannins are present but integrated nicely. Floral on the nose and a bit lighter in body than I was expecting for a 15.1 abv. Really starts hitting it's stride after about a hour. I see no reason to rush to drink these, probably going to stay in this phase for a while.

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#1812 Post by Drew Goin » August 4th, 2018, 12:51 pm

Dale McClaran wrote:2014 Bedrock Wine Co. Heritage Wine Dolinsek Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (7/30/2018)
Decanted 2 hrs. This wine was open for biz when I had it in June of 2016, and now, wide open. So generous in its fruit, really ‘Zin Berry’ is the best descriptor, as its a hybrid of black berry and sweet, ripe cherry. The underlying structure avoids this as coming off as jammy or what not, and I loved a late arriving note of black licorice on the finish. Awesome Bedrock. (94 points)

Thanks for the delicious-sounding TN, Dale!!!

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#1813 Post by Drew Goin » August 4th, 2018, 12:54 pm

J.Vizuete wrote:That’s a pretty slick cellar you have there
+1


Rich, PLEASE tell me that you don't have THAT much Bedrock wine tucked away! :o


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#1814 Post by Rich Brown » August 4th, 2018, 1:51 pm

Drew Goin wrote:
J.Vizuete wrote:That’s a pretty slick cellar you have there
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Rich, PLEASE tell me that you don't have THAT much Bedrock wine tucked away! :o


*muttering enviously*
I mean....you can never have TOO much Bedrock. Amiright?? ;)

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#1815 Post by AlexS » August 4th, 2018, 4:17 pm

^^ this guy gets it
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#1816 Post by Rich Brown » August 13th, 2018, 9:05 pm

Classic Bedrock goodness. Dark, slightly cloudy purple in color, with just a beautiful nose of black fruits and violets. Kinda stuff that makes it hard to take your nose out of the glass. On the palate, this is seamless with dusty blue and black brambly fruits and just the right amount of acidity. Deep and well integrated with not a rough edge to be found. Drinking incredibly well but no hurry on these either. I know I sound like a broken record, but 2012 Bedrock's are absolutley crushing right now!

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#1817 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 14th, 2018, 5:29 am

2011 Bedrock Wine Co. Sémillon Lachryma Montis, Botrytized Old Vine Monte Rosso Vineyard - after a celebration dinner with 2 amazing Napa cabs, we ended the evening with one of these. I am thankful that I still have another left, as it is absolutely delicious and I think very youthful! Reminded me, dare I say, of a great Sauternes! Delicious, with notes of honey and peach, thick and rich in a great way - perfect ending for a great night. I am going to keep my hands off my one remaining bottle and see how it does with some real age. Wish Morgan would make these again.

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#1818 Post by Corey N. » August 14th, 2018, 7:30 am

Sorry to be a contrarian, but figured I'd chime in. On the whole I much prefer the Zins to the Syrah. YMMV.
  • 2009 Bedrock Wine Co. Syrah Kick Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County (8/10/2018)
    Inky purple colored with a nose of purple fruit, florals and a dollop of bacon fat.

    The palate is noticeably big and for my palate, far too much so. In fact, there’s too much of everything. Copious purple fruit that tastes slightly sweet. The other flavors — all playing secondary roles — come and go, flitting among black fruit, vanilla, and bacon fat. Finish is bitter, oaky and unpleasant.

    Far too much new oak/fruit/sweetness for my liking. 15.1%abv. (70 pts.)
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#1819 Post by Rich Brown » August 14th, 2018, 9:07 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
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2011 Bedrock Wine Co. Sémillon Lachryma Montis, Botrytized Old Vine Monte Rosso Vineyard - after a celebration dinner with 2 amazing Napa cabs, we ended the evening with one of these. I am thankful that I still have another left, as it is absolutely delicious and I think very youthful! Reminded me, dare I say, of a great Sauternes! Delicious, with notes of honey and peach, thick and rich in a great way - perfect ending for a great night. I am going to keep my hands off my one remaining bottle and see how it does with some real age. Wish Morgan would make these again.
Mmmmm. Sounds freaking delicious Sherri! Like you I only have 2 of those rare little gems, and am trying to hold off on opening them. Hard though, as even the deep color looks so damn tasty (much darker than the 09's). Thanks for the note.

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#1820 Post by Steve Gautier » August 14th, 2018, 1:13 pm

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
August 14th, 2018, 5:29 am
2011 Bedrock Wine Co. Sémillon Lachryma Montis, Botrytized Old Vine Monte Rosso Vineyard - after a celebration dinner with 2 amazing Napa cabs, we ended the evening with one of these. I am thankful that I still have another left, as it is absolutely delicious and I think very youthful! Reminded me, dare I say, of a great Sauternes! Delicious, with notes of honey and peach, thick and rich in a great way - perfect ending for a great night. I am going to keep my hands off my one remaining bottle and see how it does with some real age. Wish Morgan would make these again.
Sounds wonderful. I hid mine deep in the cellar. Saw on IG that it was a birthday wine. Happy Birthday!
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#1821 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 14th, 2018, 1:42 pm

Thanks, Steve! I had no intention of opening, but my kids were over celebrating with me and they asked me to open something sweet to end the evening. I am glad we shared it, but definitely not touching the other for a long, long time

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#1822 Post by Rich Brown » August 14th, 2018, 2:58 pm

Happy Birthday Sherri!

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#1823 Post by Drew Goin » August 15th, 2018, 7:46 pm

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#1824 Post by Drew Goin » August 15th, 2018, 7:47 pm

Happy Birthday, Sherri!!!

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#1825 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 16th, 2018, 4:50 am

Thanks, Drew and Rich! Always fun to break out my favorite wines in the week leading up to my birthday (as if I need an excuse) too!

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#1826 Post by Peter Petersen » August 16th, 2018, 1:33 pm

Sherri, Happy Birthday. I'll find a 2008, 09, or 10 Bedrock Cab and lift a glass in your honor. [cheers.gif]

Of course, I'll also add a useless note here.

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#1827 Post by Rich Brown » August 16th, 2018, 1:53 pm

Careful Peter, you're getting damn close to cheerleader territory over there ;)

Actually enjoyed the hell out of an 08 Bedrock #2 (and an 07 Lorenzo's) the other night with fellow Berserker Andrew Johnstone. I'll post the (obviously pointless) notes soon, but it was in a great spot right at PnP.

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#1828 Post by Peter Petersen » August 16th, 2018, 2:21 pm

Yea, well, but I am actually a blond ditz head.

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#1829 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » August 16th, 2018, 2:30 pm

So I am planning on serving the 3 different 2012 Exposition wines as part of a blind tasting next month. Thoughts on decanting times?
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#1830 Post by AlexS » August 16th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Had the 2012 #3 a couple months ago, wasn't decanted but received about 4-5 hours of air and was singing (garnered more than a few WOTN votes). Although not as recent, I've had the others as well and they always seem pretty showy after a good 45-60 minutes.

Either way, they're absolutely outstanding, profound even -- enjoy!
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#1831 Post by AlexS » August 16th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Happy Birthday Sherri! Appreciate the update on the 2011 Lachryma Montis, still sitting on one bottle!!
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#1832 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 16th, 2018, 3:45 pm

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Happy Birthday Sherri! Appreciate the update on the 2011 Lachryma Montis, still sitting on one bottle!!
Thank you, Alex! Hold onto that bottle!

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#1833 Post by AlexS » August 16th, 2018, 3:47 pm

Yes ma'am!
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#1834 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 16th, 2018, 3:49 pm

Rich Brown wrote:
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Careful Peter, you're getting damn close to cheerleader territory over there ;)

Actually enjoyed the hell out of an 08 Bedrock #2 (and an 07 Lorenzo's) the other night with fellow Berserker Andrew Johnstone. I'll post the (obviously pointless) notes soon, but it was in a great spot right at PnP.
Let us know that #2 is drinking. I loved it when I had it a couple years ago, but I have been holding onto my other bottle as it's my last 08 Bedrock and I keep hoping to see how these wines do with real age (since I drank the initial releases too early, as I was trying to get a sense of the producer).

Can't wait to hear about those Weill syrahs, David.

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#1835 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 16th, 2018, 3:50 pm

Peter Petersen wrote:
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Sherri, Happy Birthday. I'll find a 2008, 09, or 10 Bedrock Cab and lift a glass in your honor. [cheers.gif]

Of course, I'll also add a useless note here.
Awesome post! And thank you.

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#1836 Post by Peter Petersen » August 18th, 2018, 7:32 am

On deck for tonight: 2008, Red #2 and 2009 Cab.

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#1837 Post by AlexS » August 18th, 2018, 9:05 am

Peter, can't wait to hear your impressions!! Fwiw, I have a 2010 Cab lined up.
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#1838 Post by Michael Martin » August 18th, 2018, 2:25 pm

Haven’t had a Shebang in a long time, maybe going back to the fifth or sixth cuvée. Stopped at a local shop and there it was again: the eleventh cuvée. Will try it this weekend.


...and the results are....


After 10 cuvées, I think the boys got it nailed. For $13, this a super QPR. Balanced with black fruits, pepper, herbs and a touch of eucalyptus. Low cost wines are usually sweet and high alcohol. While this one tips just above 14%, you don’t really notice it. Buy for a party wine, pizza wine or a Tuesday night wine. Just buy it. Drink now.

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#1839 Post by Drew Goin » August 19th, 2018, 3:16 am

Michael Martin wrote:
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Haven’t had a Shebang in a long time, maybe going back to the fifth or sixth cuvée. Stopped at a local shop and there it was again: the eleventh cuvée. Will try it this weekend.


...and the results are....


After 10 cuvées, I think the boys got it nailed. For $13, this a super QPR. Balanced with black fruits, pepper, herbs and a touch of eucalyptus. Low cost wines are usually sweet and high alcohol. While this one tips just above 14%, you don’t really notice it. Buy for a party wine, pizza wine or a Tuesday night wine. Just buy it. Drink now.

Thanks for the tasting note, Michael!! I will have to try a bottle again soon.


I always weighed similar wines (think Trentadue's "Old Patch Red") against the eternally awesome Marietta "Old Vine Red".


None, not even my first (and only) bottle of the Shebang!, could stick the finish the way that the Marietta could. That doesn't mean that I didn't consider the wines killer values: it just seemed like nobody else was surpassing Marietta's decades of experience in the value game.


Now... I don't know.

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#1840 Post by Michael Martin » August 19th, 2018, 6:03 am

Drew Goin wrote:
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Michael Martin wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 2:25 pm
Haven’t had a Shebang in a long time, maybe going back to the fifth or sixth cuvée. Stopped at a local shop and there it was again: the eleventh cuvée. Will try it this weekend.


...and the results are....


After 10 cuvées, I think the boys got it nailed. For $13, this a super QPR. Balanced with black fruits, pepper, herbs and a touch of eucalyptus. Low cost wines are usually sweet and high alcohol. While this one tips just above 14%, you don’t really notice it. Buy for a party wine, pizza wine or a Tuesday night wine. Just buy it. Drink now.

Thanks for the tasting note, Michael!! I will have to try a bottle again soon.


I always weighed similar wines (think Trentadue's "Old Patch Red") against the eternally awesome Marietta "Old Vine Red".


None, not even my first (and only) bottle of the Shebang!, could stick the finish the way that the Marietta could. That doesn't mean that I didn't consider the wines killer values: it just seemed like nobody else was surpassing Marietta's decades of experience in the value game.


Now... I don't know.
It looks like Marietta has lot designations as well. The current one is lot 67 it looks like. CT’s first note says “over extracted cheap red blend”. I don’t think the Shebang’s 11th would be described that way. [snort.gif] If I can find a bottle in Colorado, I will give it a try.

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#1841 Post by Bud Carey » August 19th, 2018, 6:19 am

IIRC, Marietta uses lot numbers because not all the components they put into the blend typically come from the same vintage.
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#1842 Post by Peter Petersen » August 19th, 2018, 8:10 am

Anyone who has the 2008 Red #2 is in for a treat. I’d consider this a classic CA version of a Bdx blend and I’d buy this type of wine in a heartbeat at $40. So why no more?
For comparison purposes I’d pick this as close to but better than the Dehlinger Cab. Classic aromas of sage, bay leaves, black currants. Full bodied, but far from the standard overbearing style that is all too common, nice refreshing length. At a guess, a perfect birthday wine for Sherri.
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#1843 Post by Andrew Demaree » August 20th, 2018, 5:36 am

Thanks for the update on the #2. I have a pair in the cellar; maybe it’s time to open one. Your comment about some similarity to Dehlinger got me excited, as I like their cab and claret - esp. with a decade or so of age on them.

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#1844 Post by Michael Martin » August 20th, 2018, 5:49 am

I had my last ‘08 #2 about 2 years ago and it was great then too.

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#1845 Post by Peter Petersen » August 21st, 2018, 11:53 am

Popped the 2009 Cab last night. This also a classic Cab, but with more of a tannic grip. My brother-in-law who is a foodie and likes wine without being too serious about what he buys said: This is the best damn Cab I remember having. My comment: Wait 'til you try the 2010!

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#1846 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » August 21st, 2018, 12:16 pm

Peter Petersen wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 11:53 am
Popped the 2009 Cab last night. This also a classic Cab, but with more of a tannic grip. My brother-in-law who is a foodie and likes wine without being too serious about what he buys said: This is the best damn Cab I remember having. My comment: Wait 'til you try the 2010!
Sounds Fantastic, Peter!

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#1847 Post by Rich Brown » August 22nd, 2018, 1:53 pm

Peter Petersen wrote:
August 19th, 2018, 8:10 am
Anyone who has the 2008 Red #2 is in for a treat. I’d consider this a classic CA version of a Bdx blend and I’d buy this type of wine in a heartbeat at $40. So why no more?
For comparison purposes I’d pick this as close to but better than the Dehlinger Cab. Classic aromas of sage, bay leaves, black currants. Full bodied, but far from the standard overbearing style that is all too common, nice refreshing length. At a guess, a perfect birthday wine for Sherri.
Last bottle and by far the best. Have two each of 2009 and 2010 on deck for later. After that a mixed case of 2015 Bedrock reds. [cheers.gif]
Awesome note Peter! I also drank this last week with fellow Berserker Andrew Johnstone (who really should post here more!) And we really enjoyed it. Note and pics below. We also opened an 07 Lorenzo's which I'll post next.

2008 Bedrock #2
This wine was in a great place at PnP. Medium purple in color with a very slight bit of bricking. Very floral on the nose with violets and lavender. As always, hard to keep my nose out of the glass when drinking a Bedrock. On the palate, this is very round with the tannins well integrated. Blind it would be difficult to peg as a cab blend - more like a 'zin on pillows' (Andrew's quote) due to it being so soft, which is probably thanks to the 32% merlot in the blend. Really nice wine that's drinking well but should hold for some time.

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#1848 Post by Rich Brown » August 22nd, 2018, 2:15 pm

2007 Bedrock Lorenzo's Heirloom (with fellow Berserker Andrew Johnstone).

Dark purple in color with no bricking at all, and that amazing Bedrock perfume explodes from the glass on PnP. On the palate, full bodied with dark plums and a tart finish (in a good way). Enough acidity but definitely seems a bit 'bigger' than current Bedrock releases, but in no way heavy. Lots of sediment - much more than any other BR I've opened. Overall an absolutely delicious field blend and a very well made wine. Damn impressive being it was Morgan's first vintage!

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#1849 Post by Drew Goin » August 22nd, 2018, 3:43 pm

Thanks for the tasting notes, Rich!!

I am seriously trying to refrain from popping my Bedrock wines before they get a fair chance to show their stuff.

I recently read a statement on Reddit's wine page that said a particular wine had a "double-peak", meaning that the wine typically is delicious right after release (with vigorous decanting), or after several years of aging.

The quote made me think of the reds and whites from Bedrock and Carlisle.

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Re: What Bedrock wine are you drinking tonight?

#1850 Post by Drew Goin » August 22nd, 2018, 4:39 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 2:25 pm
Haven’t had a in Shebang in a long time, maybe going back to the fifth or sixth cuvée. Stopped at a local shop and there it was again: the eleventh cuvée. Will try it this weekend.

I just read a statement from an article on the Lodi Wine Commission Blog that leads me to believe that a lot of the fruit in the Shebang! reds is from a single vineyard in Lodi...


Lodi Wine Commission Blog
"Sonoma’s Morgan Twain-Peterson talks about his new Katusha Vineyard in Lodi"
by Randy Caparoso
June 27, 2014


"...This young, hirsute wine producer fully acknowledges that his plans for being fully invested in the Delta – through not only 'Katusha' but also 'Stampede Vineyard', which has become Twain-Peterson's single largest source of Zinfandel in the state, plus possible future work with west-side Lodi vineyards ('I'd love to explore the subtle differences in sandy loam,' he tells us) – will be adding to 'the bigger conversation about Lodi.'"


So...if the "Stampede Vineyard" is Bedrock's largest single source of Zin fruit, it makes sense to me that the biggest chunk of the "Stampede grapes" pie-chart would be devoted to the Shebang! Red Cuvee. Yes, some goes into the Bedrock "Old Vine" Zinfandel, but its primary sources are divulged in each release letter.

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