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#151 Post by Kirk.Grant » November 25th, 2019, 11:45 am

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#152 Post by dsimmons » November 25th, 2019, 12:06 pm

I have only been a member for a fairly short time but to me the site content is driven by its most prolific posters and this is as it should be. High end Burgundy, Bordeaux and maybe Champagne seem to get the most attention here and again this is not unexpected. I think most other regions are under represented.

For my tastes, I would like to see more posts on more affordable wine regions like Washington State and Paso Robles.

As far as specific wineries, the two that surprise me the most are absence of posts on Quilceda Creek and Walter Hansel, two of my personal favorites.
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#153 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 25th, 2019, 12:11 pm

I think qc prop red is a nice value; the Cabernet is pretty expensive and parkerized, at least the older vintages. I haven’t had it lately, though.

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#154 Post by Brian Tuite » November 25th, 2019, 12:32 pm

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I have only been a member for a fairly short time but to me the site content is driven by its most prolific posters and this is as it should be. High end Burgundy, Bordeaux and maybe Champagne seem to get the most attention here and again this is not unexpected. I think most other regions are under represented.

For my tastes, I would like to see more posts on more affordable wine regions like Washington State and Paso Robles.

As far as specific wineries, the two that surprise me the most are absence of posts on Quilceda Creek and Walter Hansel, two of my personal favorites.
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#155 Post by dsimmons » November 25th, 2019, 12:52 pm

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I have only been a member for a fairly short time but to me the site content is driven by its most prolific posters and this is as it should be. High end Burgundy, Bordeaux and maybe Champagne seem to get the most attention here and again this is not unexpected. I think most other regions are under represented.

For my tastes, I would like to see more posts on more affordable wine regions like Washington State and Paso Robles.

As far as specific wineries, the two that surprise me the most are absence of posts on Quilceda Creek and Walter Hansel, two of my personal favorites.
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#156 Post by john stimson » November 25th, 2019, 1:03 pm

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#157 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » November 25th, 2019, 1:06 pm

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#158 Post by Doug Schulman » November 25th, 2019, 4:59 pm

Daniel Bouland. There's so much talk about Beaujolais, yet this producer is very rarely mentioned. I think they're putting out some of the best wines in the region. I have paid too little attention myself until opening some 2008s recently and seeing how well (slowly, but well) they're aging. I think they're one of my two favorite producers in Beaujolais at this point (along with Coudert).
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#159 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 25th, 2019, 5:07 pm

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Daniel Bouland. There's so much talk about Beaujolais, yet this producer is very rarely mentioned. I think they're putting out some of the best wines in the region. I have paid too little attention myself until opening some 2008s recently and seeing how well (slowly, but well) they're aging. I think they're one of my two favorite producers in Beaujolais at this point (along with Coudert).
Granted I’m a Yak palate, but I do mention Bouland quite a bit. And I concur. Exceptional producer. The Delys Morgon cuvee is is good as anything produced in Beaujolais, a true vin de garde. I predominately buy Roilette, Thivin and Bouland, even over Foillard. Now 3.14, that’s another level, but also 2x the price, if you can find it. Vissoux is another Beaujolais producer that does not get mentioned often, but is quite solid.

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#160 Post by Doug Schulman » November 25th, 2019, 5:15 pm

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Daniel Bouland. There's so much talk about Beaujolais, yet this producer is very rarely mentioned. I think they're putting out some of the best wines in the region. I have paid too little attention myself until opening some 2008s recently and seeing how well (slowly, but well) they're aging. I think they're one of my two favorite producers in Beaujolais at this point (along with Coudert).
Granted I’m a Yak palate, but I do mention Bouland quite a bit. And I concur. Exceptional producer. The Delys Morgon cuvee is is good as anything produced in Beaujolais, a true vin de garde. I predominately buy Roilette, Thivin and Bouland, even over Foillard. Now 3.14, that’s another level, but also 2x the price, if you can find it. Vissoux is another Beaujolais producer that does not get mentioned often, but is quite solid.
I must have missed you talking about them. That's nice to hear, though. I also like Vissoux quite a bit, but not as much as the other producers you mentioned. I strongly agree with putting your top three ahead of Foillard. I think Thivin's wines are exceptional, but I prefer the styles of Roilette and Bouland.
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#161 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 25th, 2019, 5:21 pm

Thivin is like my meat and potatoes. Love this stuff like you cannot believe, but I do not think Thivin can hit the high highs of Bouland Delys Morgan or Roilette Cuvee Tardive.

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#162 Post by joz€f p1nxten » November 27th, 2019, 1:06 am

Doug Schulman wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 4:59 pm
Daniel Bouland. There's so much talk about Beaujolais, yet this producer is very rarely mentioned. I think they're putting out some of the best wines in the region. I have paid too little attention myself until opening some 2008s recently and seeing how well (slowly, but well) they're aging. I think they're one of my two favorite producers in Beaujolais at this point (along with Coudert).
Doug, I visited both producers (Bouland and Roilette) in August this year - and only those btw. Both excellent, but different. I visited Roilette because of a cuvée tardive 2011 that I tried in spring and that was beautifully evolved. Bouland I visited because of some reviews. I haven't tried any 2011s but I can only guess they evolve at a much slower rate because there was much more stuffing. Different wines, but both excellent, I bought both in case quantities. Bouland I couldn't buy at the estate as he was sold out. Roilette no problem, and prices were a bargain...
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#163 Post by Mel Knox » November 27th, 2019, 4:24 pm

Other than Blake Brown nobody mentions Wms Selyem or Au Bon Climat, two wineries that have influenced many.
I have never seen a mention of Saintsbury. Or anybody else in Carneros for that matter.

Morgan is a very successful winery....have never seen them discussed.
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#165 Post by Michael Martin » November 27th, 2019, 5:15 pm

Mel Knox wrote:
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Other than Blake Brown nobody mentions Wms Selyem or Au Bon Climat, two wineries that have influenced many.
I have never seen a mention of Saintsbury. Or anybody else in Carneros for that matter.

Morgan is a very successful winery....have never seen them discussed.
I second Au Bon Climat. Great Pinot.

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#166 Post by Arv R » November 27th, 2019, 7:49 pm

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In Bordeaux given how much TLC Magdelaine gets, I'm surprised more people haven't tried Soutard, a sort of similar wine.
I love Magdelaine, and like old school Soutard (I understand now it's pretty internationally/modern styled), but don't think they are that similar. I think Soutard is pretty marked by CF, at least in the vintages I've had a lot of (70, 82, 89). I think of Soutard as more like Trottevielle.
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#167 Post by Kris Patten » November 28th, 2019, 6:09 am

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I think qc prop red is a nice value; the Cabernet is pretty expensive and parkerized, at least the older vintages. I haven’t had it lately, though.
Quilceda Creek Cabernet is fantastic 1983-1997. It changed in 1998 and became bigger and lost some balance, but I think that style with them peaked in 2003.
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#168 Post by Kris Patten » November 28th, 2019, 6:12 am

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#169 Post by Todd Hamina » November 28th, 2019, 8:23 am

Right, a taco truck run by a winemaker who has worked at Dujac and DRC...
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#170 Post by Sebastian C. » November 28th, 2019, 11:14 am

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Right, a taco truck run by a winemaker who has worked at Dujac and DRC...
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#172 Post by A1ex H » November 28th, 2019, 12:05 pm

In Burgundy, I'm surprised Domaine de Montille doesn't get more attention.
In California, Littorai, ABC and Williams Selyem aren't mentioned as much as they probably should be - agree with Mel.
Bordeaux in general gets surprisingly little attention outside of the First Growths but that's not unique to this board.
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#173 Post by markjchambers » November 28th, 2019, 4:30 pm

Well… there are whole countries left out. Australia for one. Even if you're not a fan, I think Torbreck and
Penfolds are great producers. The same with Spain. Not much about the big name procurers like Vega Sicilia or
Pingus and even less about great values in Priorat, Rioja, Toro and other areas.

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#174 Post by Arv R » November 28th, 2019, 7:27 pm

A1ex H wrote:
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In Burgundy, I'm surprised Domaine de Montille doesn't get more attention.
In California, Littorai, ABC and Williams Selyem aren't mentioned as much as they probably should be - agree with Mel.
Bordeaux in general gets surprisingly little attention outside of the First Growths but that's not unique to this board.
We had an ABC pinot to go with the turkey tonight. Good food wine!
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#175 Post by NickRut » November 28th, 2019, 8:22 pm

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#177 Post by Odd Rydland » November 29th, 2019, 6:46 am

Did anybody in this thread mention the Austrians? Prager, Brundlmayer, Hirzberger? Top end stuff IMO and I seldom see them mentioned (and I could mention several more).

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#179 Post by RyanC » November 29th, 2019, 7:41 pm

Odd Rydland wrote:
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Did anybody in this thread mention the Austrians? Prager, Brundlmayer, Hirzberger? Top end stuff IMO and I seldom see them mentioned (and I could mention several more).
That was my first response a few pages ago and it holds true today: they are some of the world’s best wines at any price, and (along with Alzinger) the three you mention may be my favorites.

I also am surprised there’s not more discussion of Spanish wines.
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#181 Post by Charlie Carnes » November 30th, 2019, 5:55 am

RyanC wrote:
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Did anybody in this thread mention the Austrians? Prager, Brundlmayer, Hirzberger? Top end stuff IMO and I seldom see them mentioned (and I could mention several more).
That was my first response a few pages ago and it holds true today: they are some of the world’s best wines at any price, and (along with Alzinger) the three you mention may be my favorites.

I also am surprised there’s not more discussion of Spanish wines.
Adding Alzinger rounds this list perfectly! I agree world's best at any price!
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#182 Post by Jonathan H » December 2nd, 2019, 3:06 pm

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#183 Post by K John Joseph » December 2nd, 2019, 3:39 pm

Arv R wrote:
November 28th, 2019, 7:27 pm
A1ex H wrote:
November 28th, 2019, 12:05 pm
In Burgundy, I'm surprised Domaine de Montille doesn't get more attention.
In California, Littorai, ABC and Williams Selyem aren't mentioned as much as they probably should be - agree with Mel.
Bordeaux in general gets surprisingly little attention outside of the First Growths but that's not unique to this board.
We had an ABC pinot to go with the turkey tonight. Good food wine!
I let my dad pick a pinot from my wines and he chose a 2015 ABC Isabelle, having never really had their wines. He really enjoyed it, and the price of ABCs is always pretty spot on. Good wines.
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#184 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » December 2nd, 2019, 5:41 pm

Jonathan H wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 3:06 pm
Domaine Marc Roy
Domaine des Croix
Ghislane Barthod
Heck.. I find even Comte Lafon isn't mentioned much.
I think barthod gets quite a bit of discussion. Agree with Roy, probably bc they don’t have any premier or grand cru.

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#185 Post by Peter Shurman » December 2nd, 2019, 10:13 pm

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#186 Post by joz€f p1nxten » December 3rd, 2019, 12:07 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 5:41 pm
Jonathan H wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 3:06 pm
Domaine Marc Roy
Domaine des Croix
Ghislane Barthod
Heck.. I find even Comte Lafon isn't mentioned much.
I think barthod gets quite a bit of discussion. Agree with Roy, probably bc they don’t have any premier or grand cru.
Yes, can't speak of domaines without premier crus, but for sure, having a grand cru in your offering is a big help in getting the word out.
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#187 Post by Jay Miller » December 3rd, 2019, 7:45 am

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I'm going to go with Ridge and Mayacamas. Two producers who have been making great, ageworthy wines for decades and I almost never see notes on them.
Jay there is a Ridge-specific thread a gajillion pages long! The bonus is there are lots of pics of bbq also.
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#188 Post by Bryan Price » December 4th, 2019, 10:58 pm

Jay Miller wrote:
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I'm going to go with Ridge and Mayacamas. Two producers who have been making great, ageworthy wines for decades and I almost never see notes on them.
Jay there is a Ridge-specific thread a gajillion pages long! The bonus is there are lots of pics of bbq also.
Remember I posted that over 5 years ago.
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