What de Négoce wine are you drinking tonight?

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#1601 Post by MatthewT »

MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 9:05 am 146 has been in the bottle for 6 months so taking one for the team and trying it tonight...just put in decanter...

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... gnon-750ml
This wine is VERY good. I can see why Cameron offered it to VIPs first. Glad I have 11 more.
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#1602 Post by Luke Newton »

Just got my summer hold pack on Fourth of July special. 4 of each of #30, 86, 89. (I don’t have any more of these since I just started after those were released) Lots of bottles will be opened this week with family in town.

1 any of those drinking really well?
2 any of those drinking too well to waste on family without much of a wine palate?

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#1603 Post by JBucholz »

MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 2:18 pm
MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 9:05 am 146 has been in the bottle for 6 months so taking one for the team and trying it tonight...just put in decanter...

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... gnon-750ml
This wine is VERY good. I can see why Cameron offered it to VIPs first. Glad I have 11 more.
Any more specifics on what you’re tasting?
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#1604 Post by MatthewT »

JBucholz wrote: November 20th, 2021, 5:40 pm
MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 2:18 pm
MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 9:05 am 146 has been in the bottle for 6 months so taking one for the team and trying it tonight...just put in decanter...

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... gnon-750ml
This wine is VERY good. I can see why Cameron offered it to VIPs first. Glad I have 11 more.
Any more specifics on what you’re tasting?
I would tell you but I know nothing about wine. It's funny given I'm a regular poster on a wine message board.
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#1605 Post by Luke Newton »

MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 6:35 pm
JBucholz wrote: November 20th, 2021, 5:40 pm
MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 2:18 pm

This wine is VERY good. I can see why Cameron offered it to VIPs first. Glad I have 11 more.
Any more specifics on what you’re tasting?
I would tell you but I know nothing about wine. It's funny given I'm a regular poster on a wine message board.
Ha! I’m with Matt. I can’t use the fancy words but I know a good (and bad) wine when I taste it.

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#1606 Post by Mikko Tuomi »

Stephen Faulkner wrote: November 20th, 2021, 7:20 am
De Negoce 239 GSM
Splash decant; plummy red berry nose and palate, some depth and a peppery finish. Young but drinking fine with plush fruit, rustic, will improve with some cellar time. Even better value than N.123. $10 for this? GTFO. Home run.
As a (very) big #239 fan, just imagine how happy I am because I paid $8 per bottle at the initial release.
The funny thing is, I bought this to be my cooking wine that I can sip while simmering something. So far not a drop has fallen on my skillet.

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#1607 Post by John L Hall »

MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 6:35 pm
JBucholz wrote: November 20th, 2021, 5:40 pm
MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 2:18 pm

This wine is VERY good. I can see why Cameron offered it to VIPs first. Glad I have 11 more.
Any more specifics on what you’re tasting?
I would tell you but I know nothing about wine. It's funny given I'm a regular poster on a wine message board.
I’m the same way - I can tell you if I like it or not and that’s about it. 239 is very good for the style without even considering the insane value.

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#1608 Post by Joe Heflin »

The 05(long sold out) is superb tonight. 250 aside I have had extraordinary luck with Cameron’s $25+ wines. The 05 was $25 in the bottle shop when I bought a case of it. Earlier it was $20 or so. Tonight this is a very real $75+ wine.

For those of you reading this I would not limit your De Negoce purchases to $8 or 10 or 15 dollars.

From the 05 to the 200 you are missing a lot.

But I still haven’t opened the $50 Pritchard Hill. Has anyone? It sold out in one or two hours!

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Joe Heflin wrote: November 21st, 2021, 3:53 pm The 05(long sold out) is superb tonight. 250 aside I have had extraordinary luck with Cameron’s $25+ wines. The 05 was $25 in the bottle shop when I bought a case of it. Earlier it was $20 or so. Tonight this is a very real $75+ wine.

For those of you reading this I would not limit your De Negoce purchases to $8 or 10 or 15 dollars.

From the 05 to the 200 you are missing a lot.

But I still haven’t opened the $50 Pritchard Hill. Has anyone? It sold out in one or two hours!
5 actually was just $13 a bottle originally pre delivery/tax. I also got a case. Assuming you meant #5.
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#1610 Post by Bob Hoelting »

No. 184 RRV Pinot. Really sumptuous and classy stuff and it has no business being <$20

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#1611 Post by Rohit B »

MatthewT wrote: November 20th, 2021, 6:35 pm
I would tell you but I know nothing about wine. It's funny given I'm a regular poster on a wine message board.
Matt, would be a great help to the board (and also to yourself) to be able to delineate/break down what you're tasting with wines. You'll figure out what you do like, don't like, communicate that, etc.

I've learned a lot from the WineFolly book and highly recommend it. Never too young to teach, and never too old to learn!

Give it a try! Practice makes perfect [cheers.gif]
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#1612 Post by Joe Heflin »

MatthewT wrote: November 21st, 2021, 3:56 pm
Joe Heflin wrote: November 21st, 2021, 3:53 pm The 05(long sold out) is superb tonight. 250 aside I have had extraordinary luck with Cameron’s $25+ wines. The 05 was $25 in the bottle shop when I bought a case of it. Earlier it was $20 or so. Tonight this is a very real $75+ wine.

For those of you reading this I would not limit your De Negoce purchases to $8 or 10 or 15 dollars.

From the 05 to the 200 you are missing a lot.

But I still haven’t opened the $50 Pritchard Hill. Has anyone? It sold out in one or two hours!
5 actually was just $13 a bottle originally pre delivery/tax. I also got a case. Assuming you meant #5.
Yes. It was $13? Wow! Worth every penny of $25.

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Had a #13 last night. Was drinking really good. One glass turned into 3 pretty quick.
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#1614 Post by Eric White »

N.75 Syrah tonight - surely benefits from a decant, gave it a couple hours and it is delish. Agree with others, another winner here.

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#1615 Post by Bill B »

I'm looking for suggestions for a Cab for Thanksgiving dinner. There will be 4-5 mildly serious wine drinkers coming along with several basic wine drinkers, most that know of my DN obsession that has now grown to more than 20 cases. I'd like DN to shine so Cam's input is welcome. I will properly decant. I'll serve 122 for a Pinot. For Cab, I have: 27, 100, 105, 150, 192, 194, 199 and 200 (waiting on that).
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#1616 Post by Mark B. »

Bill B wrote: November 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm I'm looking for suggestions for a Cab for Thanksgiving dinner. There will be 4-5 mildly serious wine drinkers coming along with several basic wine drinkers, most that know of my DN obsession that has now grown to more than 20 cases. I'd like DN to shine so Cam's input is welcome. I will properly decant. I'll serve 122 for a Pinot. For Cab, I have: 27, 100, 105, 150, 192, 194, 199 and 200 (waiting on that).

I’d review the release notes and micro oxidize 2-3 of your choice and make it a mini tasting for your guests, then drink what each prefers.

I’d vote for 27 and 100, with 100 being a bit rounder/more lush on the palate, but both definitely better on day 2! From memory they were just a bit more special than 192 and 194.

But I also like playing wine steward at our 25 person Thanksgiving and helping each person find the best wine for them.

This just reminded me I should take a few lot 239 GSMs to Thanksgiving to defend the aged Pinot and cabs, as most people would prefer it anyway.

Happy Thanksgiving all!
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#1617 Post by Toby P »

Bill B wrote: November 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm I'm looking for suggestions for a Cab for Thanksgiving dinner. There will be 4-5 mildly serious wine drinkers coming along with several basic wine drinkers, most that know of my DN obsession that has now grown to more than 20 cases. I'd like DN to shine so Cam's input is welcome. I will properly decant. I'll serve 122 for a Pinot. For Cab, I have: 27, 100, 105, 150, 192, 194, 199 and 200 (waiting on that).
Of those I've had #100 and 150 (both in the last 1-2 months), and thought both were excellent / drinking very well now, with 100 being a slightly more impressive wine overall. You may want to open the night before to sample and then re-cork as they will be at least as good the next 1-2 days and if for whatever reason you don't think they're ready for prime time can hold them back and not serve guests.
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#1618 Post by K Kl@dder »

Went back to the well on #18 Malbec last night. Previous 2 bottles have been terrible, my only bad experience with De Negoce. This one, might be showing some signs of life. Not sure if it's bottle variation, or just development. Other posters had similar experiences previously. This one wasn't undrinkable like the previous 2. May be some hope here. Going to let them sit. Using the aforementioned grading scale, this is a foul tip when facing an 0-2 count. Staying alive by the slightest contact.
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#1619 Post by Timothy B a l l a r d »

Bill B:
N. 192 is impressive Cab for original $13 price. Really provides your group the value de Negoce brings to wine lovers. I've had the N. 122 PN. really good tannins on that Pinot. Original futures was $15 for N.122
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#1620 Post by Bill B »

Timothy B a l l a r d wrote: November 24th, 2021, 12:20 pm Bill B:
N. 192 is impressive Cab for original $13 price. Really provides your group the value de Negoce brings to wine lovers. I've had the N. 122 PN. really good tannins on that Pinot. Original futures was $15 for N.122
Enjoy. Cheers, Tim
Thank you, agreed on 122 PN. I've had 1 bottle of 192 Cab and it was very good but I didn't have it under ideal conditions. I haven't cracked 100 yet. I see good reviews if it's opened for 24 hours.
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#1621 Post by Stephen Faulkner »

K Kl@dder wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 4:55 am Had a #13 last night. Was drinking really good. One glass turned into 3 pretty quick.
Good to know as I've been holding off hoping it would get to this point soon. Did you decant at all?

Anyone else confirm/counter the 26 and 73 notes? Cam? 7 notes total CT despite nearly 150 bottles consumed.

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#1622 Post by K Kl@dder »

Stephen Faulkner wrote: November 24th, 2021, 1:55 pm
K Kl@dder wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 4:55 am Had a #13 last night. Was drinking really good. One glass turned into 3 pretty quick.
Good to know as I've been holding off hoping it would get to this point soon. Did you decant at all?

Anyone else confirm/counter the 26 and 73 notes? Cam? 7 notes total CT despite nearly 150 bottles consumed.
No decant, pop n pour with lots of swirling.
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#1623 Post by David Buck »

25 just got two great reviews on CT....A 91 and 92... I like it. Though the one review says 24 hour decant...ughh....still looks like a good case buy overall for us early buyers...

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#1624 Post by Keith_B »

2x N.01 Cab and one N.123 Merlot.
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#1625 Post by Rohit B »

  • 2017 de Négoce Merlot OG N.123 - USA, California, Napa Valley (11/24/2021)
    Decanted for an hour or so then followed for a couple hours in the glass.

    Strangely, the nose just disappeared after the first hour. Was deep red fruit and oaky baked pie crust, but now it’s barely present. Palate was nice with cherry, medium body, very slight glycerin, and gentle tannins. Finish is long, red cherry, slightly rocky, a slightest hint of graham cracker, and maybe a touch herbal too. Slightly hot.

    Honestly, I don’t get all the craze and hype for this wine. For $11 it’s good, but maybe I was expecting too much given the reviews. Solid 88, mostly because of the nose suddenly disappearing. (88 pts.)
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#1626 Post by Mark B. »

Tough decisions on what to open for tonight! I settled on N.5, N.100 and a couple lot 239s in addition to some non-DN pinots and whatever else guests bring and want to open.
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#1627 Post by MatthewT »

those are solid choices...i'm taking a break from dN and opened a SALT VINE 2016 from berskerker day
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#1628 Post by Luke Newton »

Mark B. wrote: November 25th, 2021, 11:20 am Tough decisions on what to open for tonight! I settled on N.5, N.100 and a couple lot 239s in addition to some non-DN pinots and whatever else guests bring and want to open.
Did #30 and 100 and 239 side by side. First 2 with 12 hour decant and 239 as a pop and pour. 239 is predictably good and we focused more on 30 vs 100. Both were nice but we all agreed 100 was a more grown up wine. More complex and full bodied. This is the second bottle of 100 was we have had. The first was underwhelming. The second makes me think this will live up to its billing.

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#1629 Post by Rohit B »

Opened N.66, N.142, and N.118 last night with family. N.142 was the winner by a country mile. Such a good wine!
  • 2018 de Négoce Malbec OG N.142 - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Horse Heaven Hills (11/26/2021)
    This is serious stuff. Absolutely ready to rock with an hour decant. Full disclosure I'm a big fan of Malbec, but this was really good. Served to family and everyone was raving about this wine.

    Red side of the Malbec spectrum. Flowers, rocky earthiness, tons of structure from tannin and acid, long finish.

    Drink now and hold for a couple years to watch its development. This was initially a $65 single vineyard and I would have been happy to pay that. I paid $13 for this?!? (92 pts.)
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  • 2018 de Négoce Cabernet Sauvignon OG N.66 - USA, California, Napa Valley (11/26/2021)
    Ready to rock with few hours decant. Solid wine at the original $16 futures price.

    Not a ton of structure or complexity. Red fruits, some herbal woody complexity, a little floral, with black currants/cassis showing gently on the palate. The fruit isn't very forward and requires some thinking to appreciate fully.

    Good to drink now with a couple hours decant. This is a cellar defender in the sense that it scratches the Napa Cab itch, but not big, bombastic, juicy, etc. (89 pts.)
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N.118 had same notes as when I opened a month or so ago. A much darker Malbec with ripe California fruit.
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#1630 Post by MatthewT »

Swear this is true. Opened #239 tonight for dinner.

"Holy shit, was is this? This is amazing."
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#1631 Post by Tyler F. »

Opened #16 (SB), #37 (Viognier), #41 (St. Helena cab), and #50 (Walla Walla cab) all over the Thanksgiving week. #16 was by far the best, but it's not saying much. This was a fun experiment, but as far as NDA wines go, the WA private label bottles are a much better QPR. They are head and shoulders above any dN bottle and after shipping, maybe an extra $10/bottle.
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#1632 Post by Chris Crutchfield »

Tyler F. wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:46 pm Opened #16 (SB), #37 (Viognier), #41 (St. Helena cab), and #50 (Walla Walla cab) all over the Thanksgiving week. #16 was by far the best, but it's not saying much. This was a fun experiment, but as far as NDA wines go, the WA private label bottles are a much better QPR. They are head and shoulders above any dN bottle and after shipping, maybe an extra $10/bottle.
That's weird, because the 2 WA private label bottles I've tried, 2018 Editorial and 2015 Editorial, were both pretty bad. I've pretty much sworn off of WA private label wines as a result.

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#1633 Post by Mikko Tuomi »

MatthewT wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:03 pm Swear this is true. Opened #239 tonight for dinner.

"Holy shit, was is this? This is amazing."
I still think it's one of the most ridiculous QPRs in wine today.

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#1634 Post by Tyler F. »

Chris Crutchfield wrote: November 27th, 2021, 10:03 pm
Tyler F. wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:46 pm Opened #16 (SB), #37 (Viognier), #41 (St. Helena cab), and #50 (Walla Walla cab) all over the Thanksgiving week. #16 was by far the best, but it's not saying much. This was a fun experiment, but as far as NDA wines go, the WA private label bottles are a much better QPR. They are head and shoulders above any dN bottle and after shipping, maybe an extra $10/bottle.
That's weird, because the 2 WA private label bottles I've tried, 2018 Editorial and 2015 Editorial, were both pretty bad. I've pretty much sworn off of WA private label wines as a result.
Of the 6 I've purchased, the 2018 Editorial has been the least impressive at this stage. It definitely will benefit from laying down a few more years, but after a 4 hour decant, it's a solid wine, IMO.
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#1635 Post by Toby P »

Chris Crutchfield wrote: November 27th, 2021, 10:03 pm
Tyler F. wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:46 pm Opened #16 (SB), #37 (Viognier), #41 (St. Helena cab), and #50 (Walla Walla cab) all over the Thanksgiving week. #16 was by far the best, but it's not saying much. This was a fun experiment, but as far as NDA wines go, the WA private label bottles are a much better QPR. They are head and shoulders above any dN bottle and after shipping, maybe an extra $10/bottle.
That's weird, because the 2 WA private label bottles I've tried, 2018 Editorial and 2015 Editorial, were both pretty bad. I've pretty much sworn off of WA private label wines as a result.
Yeah I've been much more impressed by my DN purchases across the board than WA private labels so far, and that's before adjusting for substantially lower pricing in most cases
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#1636 Post by Rohit B »

Tyler F. wrote: November 28th, 2021, 4:01 am
Chris Crutchfield wrote: November 27th, 2021, 10:03 pm
Tyler F. wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:46 pm Opened #16 (SB), #37 (Viognier), #41 (St. Helena cab), and #50 (Walla Walla cab) all over the Thanksgiving week. #16 was by far the best, but it's not saying much. This was a fun experiment, but as far as NDA wines go, the WA private label bottles are a much better QPR. They are head and shoulders above any dN bottle and after shipping, maybe an extra $10/bottle.
That's weird, because the 2 WA private label bottles I've tried, 2018 Editorial and 2015 Editorial, were both pretty bad. I've pretty much sworn off of WA private label wines as a result.
Of the 6 I've purchased, the 2018 Editorial has been the least impressive at this stage. It definitely will benefit from laying down a few more years, but after a 4 hour decant, it's a solid wine, IMO.
Completely agree re Editorial 2018. Needed a good decant but what was poured back in the bottle overnight turned into a really good wine. Needs 5 years or so.
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#1637 Post by Eric White »

N.239 GSM again tonight. Not sure there's a better value in wine out there, just crazy good.

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#1638 Post by ray ormand »

N.192 good fruit, good structure, fine wine.
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#1639 Post by Albert R »

Eric White wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:18 pm N.239 GSM again tonight. Not sure there's a better value in wine out there, just crazy good.
We had this again last night and agree 100%. Such a tasty and nicely integrated wine.
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#1640 Post by MatthewT »

The love of #239 is a bit sad since it's long gone and probably never coming back. Cameron needs to capitalize and secure more wine from this winery.
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#1641 Post by Timothy B a l l a r d »

N.24 Carneros Pinot, poured a glass Friday to set aside for Saturday night turkey leftovers. Best $9 Pinot Noir I've tried, and would been happy to pay $20 for it. Does have some time ahead to mature in bottle. For now, decant it for an hour +.

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#1642 Post by ChrisWolff »

MatthewT wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:41 pm The love of #239 is a bit sad since it's long gone and probably never coming back. Cameron needs to capitalize and secure more wine from this winery.
I know the winery thought the NDA was a good idea at the time, but it would actually be better for them at this point if they asked Cameron to break the NDA and tell us where that wine came from. I'd buy some from them directly

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#1643 Post by Toby P »

Very curious to hear first reviews of #231 GSM blend, not sure any have shipped yet though
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#1644 Post by MatthewT »

ChrisWolff wrote: November 29th, 2021, 8:46 am
MatthewT wrote: November 28th, 2021, 6:41 pm The love of #239 is a bit sad since it's long gone and probably never coming back. Cameron needs to capitalize and secure more wine from this winery.
I know the winery thought the NDA was a good idea at the time, but it would actually be better for them at this point if they asked Cameron to break the NDA and tell us where that wine came from. I'd buy some from them directly
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#1645 Post by B Bauer »

We had de Negoce ship ($120 total price) our daughter's family a case of Lot 166 2018 Walla Walla Valley Meritage wine (51% Merlot, 38% Cabernet Sauvignon, 11% Petite Verdot). Though already bottled for six months and Cameron clearly noting 'ready to rock', I suggested giving the wine a bit more time. 'Time' for my daughter was 'I can't see the UPS truck any longer on our street.' Bottom line, this was one of the family wines served after a two hour decant during Thanksgiving day and the expletives of joy could be heard 800 miles away (thank you AT&T). She was 'stunned' (her word) by what a quality wine can really taste like. Maybe a more descriptive narrative of Lot 166 will be forthcoming by participating Berserkers. / https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-lo ... lley-750ml
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#1646 Post by Mikko Tuomi »

Damn. Had another #197, RRV PN today.

This is drinking amazing right now. Lush, fruity, long, delicious.

Went to CT to see how many I have left. This was the last one :(

Note to self. Don't buy 6-packs. I wish I had more of this. Yum.

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#1647 Post by Joseph Grassa »

Anyone know if the 2019 Serilhan is representative of De Negoce's wines? After seeing lots of people rave about De Negoce I jumped on this awhile back not knowing it was a future. I recently tried one and wasn't overly excited. So basically I'm wondering if I should try something else or if anyone can advise if I should look for anything specifically. I generally prefer old world wines, but I like a very wide variety.

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#1648 Post by Nick van der Merwe »

Took delivery of six wines that I had skipped on initial offer, to see if I should make a follow-up purchase. PnP'ed 125 - Anderson Valley PN, thought to be Domaine Anderson which is a wine I've enjoyed in the past.

Found it very muted on night one. Light ruby color with a primary nose of red Welch's candy. Very thin, bordering on watery in the mouth - 12.2% alc. according to the notes on DN and it shows. Tried again 2 hours later and found it better, though the nose had added cough syrup which then dissipated. A little more body the second time around with red fruit and some acidity showing in the profile.

Put the cork back in and will taste again tonight.

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#1649 Post by Chris Crutchfield »

Joseph Grassa wrote: November 30th, 2021, 4:55 am Anyone know if the 2019 Serilhan is representative of De Negoce's wines? After seeing lots of people rave about De Negoce I jumped on this awhile back not knowing it was a future. I recently tried one and wasn't overly excited. So basically I'm wondering if I should try something else or if anyone can advise if I should look for anything specifically. I generally prefer old world wines, but I like a very wide variety.
No, that one is definitely an outlier. And it’s not surprising that you would not be terribly excited by a just-released 2019 Bordeaux. Unless you have a lot of experience drinking very young Bordeaux you should probably wait at least a few years before opening another.

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#1650 Post by Mark Morrissette »

Chris Crutchfield wrote: November 30th, 2021, 8:10 am
Joseph Grassa wrote: November 30th, 2021, 4:55 am Anyone know if the 2019 Serilhan is representative of De Negoce's wines? After seeing lots of people rave about De Negoce I jumped on this awhile back not knowing it was a future. I recently tried one and wasn't overly excited. So basically I'm wondering if I should try something else or if anyone can advise if I should look for anything specifically. I generally prefer old world wines, but I like a very wide variety.
No, that one is definitely an outlier. And it’s not surprising that you would not be terribly excited by a just-released 2019 Bordeaux. Unless you have a lot of experience drinking very young Bordeaux you should probably wait at least a few years before opening another.
Joseph, as a follow-up to my post in the other thread, and to confirm Chris's point, the Neal Martin score for that wine (as an example), lists the drinking window as 2024-2048. I have most of mine slotted to drink around 2029...

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