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#151 Post by KyleC » September 15th, 2020, 9:45 pm

scott.becker wrote:
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Kyle, we are reaching out to people with multiple orders to consolidate shipping. Working on a way to make this more seamless in the future.
Great, thanks Scott!

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#152 Post by ykwon » September 16th, 2020, 3:54 am

Love the bard. Brings pure enjoyment every time that I open one.
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#153 Post by scott.becker » September 16th, 2020, 7:28 am

David, to answer your question on blending and fruit costs, we generally pay the same for all fruit from a vineyard. There are differences based on varietal but within a varietal it's generally the same. In some cases we separate young vines from mature plants. There is of course an economic reality to blending but that must be secondary to crafting a wine that fits our vision, our ideal. In other words, blending all of To Kalon into Bard would not be sustainable...but blending in a little creates a better wine that hopefully over-delivers on value and builds enthusiasm with consumers around the world.
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#154 Post by David Crow » September 16th, 2020, 7:52 am

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September 16th, 2020, 7:28 am
David, to answer your question on blending and fruit costs, we generally pay the same for all fruit from a vineyard. There are differences based on varietal but within a varietal it's generally the same. In some cases we separate young vines from mature plants. There is of course an economic reality to blending but that must be secondary to crafting a wine that fits our vision, our ideal. In other words, blending all of To Kalon into Bard would not be sustainable...but blending in a little creates a better wine that hopefully over-delivers on value and builds enthusiasm with consumers around the world.
Scott, thanks for that response. I’m sure it adds even more complexity to the blending process to not just make the best wine but make one that makes economic sense for the winery. Just makes it all that more impressive what you all are able to do.

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#155 Post by J. Schenck » September 16th, 2020, 8:48 am

yeesh, in for 6 bard, 1 falstaff, 2 tempest, 1 moonracer. moonracer is a new one for me and its outsize price had me going back and forth for a while.
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#156 Post by JohnP » September 17th, 2020, 7:34 am

Wish list granted (one Falstaff) this morning. Figured I'd have a better chance requesting a single versus three or more.
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#157 Post by HoosJustinG » September 17th, 2020, 8:14 am

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Wish list granted (one Falstaff) this morning. Figured I'd have a better chance requesting a single versus three or more.
Hope there's still work to be done on the wishlist!
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#158 Post by R@f@el A. » September 17th, 2020, 9:19 am

Wish list granted this morning - 1 Absurd. Thanks, Scott, and the rest of the Realm team!

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#159 Post by scott.becker » September 17th, 2020, 9:40 am

Wish granting is ongoing this morning. We did the very best we could to spread the few bottles of Falstaff and Absurd around as fairly and equitably as possible. For a later date we can debate how to prioritize requests - there are pros and cons to every approach. We hit a snag with a few orders regarding shipping method that was inadvertently changed. We are reaching out to those folks now. We were thankfully able to fulfill most requests for Bard, Tempest and Moonracer. Appreciate all the support and dialogue from this forum!
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#160 Post by Bill V » September 17th, 2020, 12:51 pm

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#161 Post by Tom Chen » September 17th, 2020, 12:58 pm

Scott,

First off, congrats on what seems like a very successful Fall offering!

I am curious as to your thoughts of the various Absurd vintages.
K currently have 2012, 13, 14, and 15 and what to get your thoughts on which drinking windows on these. I know, very broad question, and depending on tastes, etc., but just wanted to see if you have any general thoughts.
BTW: I bought, what I think was your first Absurd vintage (2005), which I drank a while ago.

Lastly, echoing others and really appreciate your involvement in this board. Makes a big difference for info and connecting, both of which are very important to me.

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#162 Post by scott.becker » September 17th, 2020, 1:34 pm

Tom, I'll preface my comments on drinking windows by saying this is just my palate and admittedly we don't have enough years under our belt to really see how these wines evolve over decades. The 05 vintage you mentioned was quite a different wine back then and in my experience its best years are behind it. Of the vintages you mention, I would probably drink 2012 and 2015 before 2013 and 14. I think 12 is probably the most approachable and evolved right now. I think it still has some years to go but I don't see it being built to last decades in the same way as 2013. 2013 is a monster and I love how dense and fresh this wine still is - you could drink it now but I think you would be missing the peak. The 2014 is beautiful, more acidity in that vintage. It might not show the same hedonistic fruit as 12 or 13 but instead it reveals a more intellectual side. 15 is showing the flashiness that goes along with a warmer, solar vintage. The posture of 15 seems more front-forward right now. You didn't mention the 16 but I also think that's another epic vintage and that wine will (hopefully) age for decades. I think 17 should lay down for awhile, there's plenty of structure and acidity in that wine for it to age awhile. One of these days we will publish some notes from a vertical tasting of The Absurd that Benoit and I did recently.
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#163 Post by Tom Chen » September 17th, 2020, 1:44 pm

Very useful info! Thanks Scott.

Will look for an opportunity to open the 2012 (I have two bottles, but only one of each of the others).

I really look forward to reading about the vertical tasting of the Absurd (and hope you do a vertical of Dr. Crane some day).

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#164 Post by HoosJustinG » September 17th, 2020, 1:58 pm

I saw my waitlist email and got SUPER excited ... slightly came back to earth when I saw I was granted 6 additional Bard (now 12 total) and 1 additional Moonracer (now 3 total) but struck out on Falstaff. I'd requested 2 additional Falstaff (1 ordered previously) but also understand some got 0 initially, and I'm glad they were (evidently?) prioritized to get some.
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#165 Post by Nicholas C » September 17th, 2020, 2:21 pm

HoosJustinG wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 1:58 pm
I saw my waitlist email and got SUPER excited ... slightly came back to earth when I saw I was granted 6 additional Bard (now 12 total) and 1 additional Moonracer (now 3 total) but struck out on Falstaff. I'd requested 2 additional Falstaff (1 ordered previously) but also understand some got 0 initially, and I'm glad they were (evidently?) prioritized to get some.
Apart from the Falstaff were you granted everything else you wish listed? That’s what happened to me.

I ended up with 18 Bard, 4 Bard mags, 4 Tempest, 2 Tempest Mags, 3 Moonracer. Missed out on the Falstaffs but very happy with what I secured.
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#166 Post by Brent S » September 17th, 2020, 3:31 pm

I received a very pleasant email that I didn't get my Falstaff wishlist request, however, last year I received a 2016 Absurd that I requested through wishlist. All works out.
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#167 Post by MICHAEL C R O M W E L L » September 17th, 2020, 4:04 pm

Happy news here - one each Absurd, Bard mag, Falstaff mag
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#168 Post by NickRut » September 17th, 2020, 5:01 pm

Got my 3 extra Bard. Good times. Grateful
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#169 Post by Chris H. » September 17th, 2020, 5:08 pm

I only went with 3 Bards and no wishlist, but needed to keep my order to a minimum, unfortunately. Went really deep with Carter/Myriad/Quivet/Becklyn, and with Greer, M. Etain, and a few others coming up, it'll be a rough month on the card. With that said, 2018 is said to be a great vintage, so I'm looking forward to it! Hopefully I'll be able to be able to pick up some Realm Dr. Crane and To Kalon in the next offer (fingers crossed)! Glad to see all the Realm love on this thread.
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#170 Post by Joe B » September 17th, 2020, 8:44 pm

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#171 Post by markjchambers » September 18th, 2020, 6:09 am

Well… I was wishlist only since I have not bought for a couple of years. So I was pleased to get 9 Bard and 6 Tempest. Not pleased that they are charging $200 to ship 15 bottles of wine, but beggars can't be choosers. Cayuse and SQN are almost as bad. Nothing to do but pay up.

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#172 Post by scott.becker » September 18th, 2020, 8:59 am

Mark, welcome back and thanks for your support. Shipping is one of my big focus areas in the months ahead. I know it's expensive and everyone (including me) has stories of how it can go wrong. When we get through fall release cleanup and harvest, I was thinking I would start a separate thread here on shipping to gather ideas, feedback, etc. For now, just know that I hear you on the shipping costs.
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#173 Post by Jen M a s o n » September 18th, 2020, 3:11 pm

I got my extra 2 Bard wishlist, but no Falstaff :-(

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#174 Post by Hank Victor » September 18th, 2020, 3:29 pm

No falstaff wish list granted but did snag another Bard. All good
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#175 Post by Nicholas C » October 8th, 2020, 9:27 am

FYI - the wine advocate has a nice lengthy write up on Realm today with LPB reviewing the 2017 & 2018 lineup.
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#176 Post by R@f@el A. » October 8th, 2020, 10:08 am

Nicholas C wrote:
October 8th, 2020, 9:27 am
FYI - the wine advocate has a nice lengthy write up on Realm today with LPB reviewing the 2017 & 2018 lineup.
Agreed. Nice article and the history of Realm is pretty amazing.

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#177 Post by J. Rock » October 8th, 2020, 10:16 am

That To Kalon Cab Franc sounds glorious. Is it an accurate assumption that if I didn't get any Falstaff allocated, I won't get this (even though I suspect there's a decent chance I can't afford it)?
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#178 Post by OwenB » October 8th, 2020, 10:53 am

Any notable scores or wines she was particularly high on?
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    #179 Post by J. Rock » October 8th, 2020, 11:01 am

    OwenB wrote:
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    Any notable scores or wines she was particularly high on?
    The scores were generally pretty great all around (including the '17s), but the most notable scores are for 2018 Cabernet Sauvignon Beckstoffer Dr Crane Vineyard and 2018 Beckstoffer To Kalon Vineyard Cabernet Franc, which each received 100 points
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    #180 Post by OwenB » October 8th, 2020, 11:27 am

    Thanks. My first year getting a To Kalon cab allocation was the '17s earlier this year, and there was no cab franc that vintage due to fires, so don't have a sense for how much there is to go around.

    I usually get allocated one Falstaff, which I was getting prior to being offered To Kalon or Dr Crane.
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      #181 Post by MICHAEL C R O M W E L L » October 8th, 2020, 4:45 pm

      J. Rock wrote:
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      That To Kalon Cab Franc sounds glorious. Is it an accurate assumption that if I didn't get any Falstaff allocated, I won't get this (even though I suspect there's a decent chance I can't afford it)?
      I won’t speak for Realm and can’t make assumptions, but I wouldn’t assume anything. As I understand it, the Spring and Fall allocations are separate beasts. Most folks had a spike in volume in ‘18, though based on the WA note today, Realm didn’t see the same. If you don’t get an allocation, wish, wish, wish, you never know. The prior versions were offered in magnum only at significant premiums that aren’t holding value in the secondary market (I speak from experience on the buyer side). The sources for Falstaff and the BTK CF aren’t necessarily the same as noted by their monikers.
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      #182 Post by NickRut » October 8th, 2020, 5:11 pm

      Glad to see the reviews. The Bard continuing with pretty solid scores. Hoping I can score some of the BTK and Crane bottles in the spring.
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      #183 Post by Tom Chen » October 8th, 2020, 6:37 pm

      Nick (or anyone else),

      Can you let me know what they scored the 2018 The Bard?

      I stopped my subscription to WA a while ago, but will look to pick up a print copy of this edition, as I love Realm.

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      #184 Post by NickRut » October 8th, 2020, 6:45 pm

      Bard was a 96+ I believe. Falstaff a 96, moonracer a 94+
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      #185 Post by Tom Chen » October 8th, 2020, 6:48 pm

      Thanks Nick.

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      #186 Post by Brent S » October 8th, 2020, 7:16 pm

      Some day maybe I’ll be lucky enough to get an allocation of to Kalon and dr crane
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      #187 Post by chris.p » October 12th, 2020, 10:49 pm

      I didn't get Absurd allocation this year. If anyone in Bay Area would like to sell 1 2017 Absurd or any 2012- 2016 Absurd, please DM me, thanks~
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      #188 Post by DavidChang » October 13th, 2020, 1:12 am

      No allocation for me. A sad year for me.

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      #189 Post by scott.becker » October 14th, 2020, 8:41 am

      Hi everyone, thanks for the continued dialogue. A few comments on allocations and the releases. The Spring and Fall Releases are completely independent with one notable exception. Earlier this year we created the Introductory Offering which allows new members to have immediate access to four different wines that are packaged together. I'd like to think of it as a glimpse into the portfolio. To create the intro pack, we have to set wine aside and plan for it - therefore we don't allow substitutes or wishing during the intro offer. If a member purchases the intro pack, they will have access to the next release whether that is spring or fall. If a member doesn't purchase the intro pack, the first release for that member will be fall (meaning they might skip a Spring Release depending on timing of sign up). The volume of each wine in the Spring Release tends to be smaller than the Fall Release so it's easier to start a new member with no purchase history in the Fall. That written, if a member buys the intro pack...that signals to us a strong desire to acquire the wines, so we accelerate them to Spring or provide an enhanced allocation in the Fall. Once you have access to one release, our view is you should have access to both (with the understanding that not all wines from a release will be available right away).

      With me so far? We set up Spring and Fall different because the wines are different of course. Ultimately, we want a member over time to be able to purchase the wines they want. Each member ends up with a personal allocation based on tenure, historical purchases, wish requests, availability (it's worth remembering volumes go down sometimes because of Mother Nature), etc. We are working on rolling out a new website in early 2021 that will do a better job explaining how allocations work.

      A few general comments on spring allocations. Newer members will likely have access to Farella, Houyi and Beckstoffer Bourn (Kata). If you've been buying for at least a few years, you are probably getting To Kalon. Dr. Crane in most years is the smallest volume of the single vineyards we produce, so naturally it's more limited in how we allocate. We bottled the Cab Franc from To Kalon in magnums only again in the 2018 vintage.

      The wish request function is important to determining how allocations evolve over time. Even if you don't get the wine in one particular release, we note that you wanted it and that factors into future allocations. On the flip side, I don't recommend wishing for more than you want because if we have the wine, we will gladly give it to you. I recall one occasion where someone wished for 12 bottles (I think it was Tempest) and we ended up granting the full wish, only to have the person call back and say he only really wanted 6 bottles. We've started limiting the amount someone can wish for in an effort to manage expectations about what's possible in any given release. For example, if we are certain we cannot make 6 bottles of Crane available to a particular member under any scenario, then why allow that member to wish for 6? The wish function is essentially the tool that allows us to spread unsold wine (it was guaranteed to someone else) around to other members at the end of the release. But it's also a planning tool for how to handle allocations the next year. Every year, the situation is dynamic because we are attempting to predict what demand will be for each individual member and each individual wine.

      Just like the wines themselves, our releases and allocations are ever evolving. I've come to realize that each decision about who has access to which wines (and how much) comes down to a set of trade-offs. Do we give that one extra bottle to a long-time member who already purchased several, or do we give that bottle to a newer member for whom this bottle would be their first? It's not a perfect science and we don't handle every single request perfectly. It's incredibly humbling to see people so passionate about our wines. Believe me, I wish we could grant every single wish request! Given the complexity of human nature, we fall back on some basic principles to guide our releases and allocations. We are looking to build long-term relationships with members, so tenure (and sometimes patience) is important. We want to treat the person buying one bottle each release the same as the person buying one case - allocations may be different, but our level of customer service and gratitude and hospitality should be the same. We seek to design a system that tailors the wine allocations over time to each member's individual preferences.

      Thanks again for all the support. I'm excited that many of you will start receiving your fall release wines soon!
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      #190 Post by blarmston » October 14th, 2020, 10:15 am

      Thanks Scott.

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      #191 Post by HoosJustinG » October 16th, 2020, 6:14 am

      Is M7 Wine Solutions the shipper for Realm? They showed up on my UPS app, and looking at the package weights, Realm makes the most sense, but it was a big ordering season, so honestly not sure if I’m just forgetting something...
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      #192 Post by Bill V » October 16th, 2020, 6:16 am

      scott.becker wrote:
      October 14th, 2020, 8:41 am
      Hi everyone, thanks for the continued dialogue. A few comments on allocations and the releases. The Spring and Fall Releases are completely independent with one notable exception. Earlier this year we created the Introductory Offering which allows new members to have immediate access to four different wines that are packaged together. I'd like to think of it as a glimpse into the portfolio. To create the intro pack, we have to set wine aside and plan for it - therefore we don't allow substitutes or wishing during the intro offer. If a member purchases the intro pack, they will have access to the next release whether that is spring or fall. If a member doesn't purchase the intro pack, the first release for that member will be fall (meaning they might skip a Spring Release depending on timing of sign up). The volume of each wine in the Spring Release tends to be smaller than the Fall Release so it's easier to start a new member with no purchase history in the Fall. That written, if a member buys the intro pack...that signals to us a strong desire to acquire the wines, so we accelerate them to Spring or provide an enhanced allocation in the Fall. Once you have access to one release, our view is you should have access to both (with the understanding that not all wines from a release will be available right away).

      With me so far? We set up Spring and Fall different because the wines are different of course. Ultimately, we want a member over time to be able to purchase the wines they want. Each member ends up with a personal allocation based on tenure, historical purchases, wish requests, availability (it's worth remembering volumes go down sometimes because of Mother Nature), etc. We are working on rolling out a new website in early 2021 that will do a better job explaining how allocations work.

      A few general comments on spring allocations. Newer members will likely have access to Farella, Houyi and Beckstoffer Bourn (Kata). If you've been buying for at least a few years, you are probably getting To Kalon. Dr. Crane in most years is the smallest volume of the single vineyards we produce, so naturally it's more limited in how we allocate. We bottled the Cab Franc from To Kalon in magnums only again in the 2018 vintage.

      The wish request function is important to determining how allocations evolve over time. Even if you don't get the wine in one particular release, we note that you wanted it and that factors into future allocations. On the flip side, I don't recommend wishing for more than you want because if we have the wine, we will gladly give it to you. I recall one occasion where someone wished for 12 bottles (I think it was Tempest) and we ended up granting the full wish, only to have the person call back and say he only really wanted 6 bottles. We've started limiting the amount someone can wish for in an effort to manage expectations about what's possible in any given release. For example, if we are certain we cannot make 6 bottles of Crane available to a particular member under any scenario, then why allow that member to wish for 6? The wish function is essentially the tool that allows us to spread unsold wine (it was guaranteed to someone else) around to other members at the end of the release. But it's also a planning tool for how to handle allocations the next year. Every year, the situation is dynamic because we are attempting to predict what demand will be for each individual member and each individual wine.

      Just like the wines themselves, our releases and allocations are ever evolving. I've come to realize that each decision about who has access to which wines (and how much) comes down to a set of trade-offs. Do we give that one extra bottle to a long-time member who already purchased several, or do we give that bottle to a newer member for whom this bottle would be their first? It's not a perfect science and we don't handle every single request perfectly. It's incredibly humbling to see people so passionate about our wines. Believe me, I wish we could grant every single wish request! Given the complexity of human nature, we fall back on some basic principles to guide our releases and allocations. We are looking to build long-term relationships with members, so tenure (and sometimes patience) is important. We want to treat the person buying one bottle each release the same as the person buying one case - allocations may be different, but our level of customer service and gratitude and hospitality should be the same. We seek to design a system that tailors the wine allocations over time to each member's individual preferences.

      Thanks again for all the support. I'm excited that many of you will start receiving your fall release wines soon!
      Thanks for the feedback and info Scott. My fall release showed up Wednesday, no issues, great packaging.
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      #193 Post by Bill V » October 16th, 2020, 6:45 am

      HoosJustinG wrote:
      October 16th, 2020, 6:14 am
      Is M7 Wine Solutions the shipper for Realm? They showed up on my UPS app, and looking at the package weights, Realm makes the most sense, but it was a big ordering season, so honestly not sure if I’m just forgetting something...
      Yes, that's the shipper on mine (received)
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      Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

      #194 Post by ATaylor » October 17th, 2020, 12:48 am

      K&L just put up over 4 cases of ‘17 Bard marked down to $108
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      Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

      #195 Post by Br1an Th0rne » October 17th, 2020, 3:50 am

      ATaylor wrote:
      October 17th, 2020, 12:48 am
      K&L just put up over 4 cases of ‘17 Bard marked down to $108
      Cheaper than release price on the mailing list....

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      Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

      #196 Post by OwenB » October 17th, 2020, 4:32 am

      I know there are various strong views on reviews and scores, but I think that’s the difference between a year (2017) with 92/93/96 (AG/LPB/JD) and one (2018) with 98/96/98.
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        Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

        #197 Post by Bdklein » October 17th, 2020, 6:55 am

        OwenB wrote:
        October 17th, 2020, 4:32 am
        I know there are various strong views on reviews and scores, but I think that’s the difference between a year (2017) with 92/93/96 (AG/LPB/JD) and one (2018) with 98/96/98.
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        Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

        #198 Post by J Cangiano » October 18th, 2020, 8:47 am

        How do we get the intro pack?
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        Re: 2018 Realm save the date (Sept 1st)

        #199 Post by J. Rock » October 18th, 2020, 8:54 am

        J Cangiano wrote:
        October 18th, 2020, 8:47 am
        How do we get the intro pack?
        I was offered the 2017 intro offering in May after signing up for the list on 9/9/19. I'm not sure if this is representative of how it usually works. If you want to buy wine off of the list or think you might at some point, just sign up, if you haven't already.
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