Faethm Wine - Nikolas Krankl

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#151 Post by Gray G » March 25th, 2020, 4:38 pm

fun to chat about for sure

it's like a blind date with your sexy girlfriend's daughter

could be worse but JB had these @ 98

will wait a bit on these

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#152 Post by R. Gaston » March 25th, 2020, 5:33 pm

Robert M yers wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 4:31 pm
R. Gaston wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:53 pm
MikeL238 wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 7:25 am


oh really? good, but not up to the hype or just bad...?
About 10 of my friends went to the tasting at the Ojai Valley Inn a while back. They are huge fans of Saxum and SQN and own a ton of each. They enjoyed the white but were confused with the reds. None of them liked the reds and that was the verdict of all 10 people. Now, I wouldn't say they are the most experienced tasters so that's why I am interested in other's opinions here on Berserkers.
I’m not at all dismissing your experience, and I would have popped one if I had been able to order quick enough. I’m finding it hard to imagine Manfred wouldnt challenge his son to not release a wine that wasn’t at least competitive in its price range?

What didn’t they like?
You can dismiss it as I was not there and have no opinion. Could be amazing juice. I was just surprised my friends didn’t like it since they love the SQN style. Again, I am interested to hear thoughts from some of you who are more experienced tasters.
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#153 Post by Adam Frisch » March 25th, 2020, 5:34 pm

Frisch's 1st Rule of Wine:
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The propensity to give high scores for a wine is directly proportional to the price paid for it.

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Restrained wines will never score higher than jammy crowdpleasers.

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#154 Post by MBerto » March 25th, 2020, 6:38 pm

Gray G wrote:
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it's like a blind date with your sexy girlfriend's daughter
I'm sorry it's like what now?
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#155 Post by Gray G » March 26th, 2020, 7:11 am

hahahaha
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#156 Post by larry schaffer » March 26th, 2020, 9:03 am

Robert M yers wrote:
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I’m not at all dismissing your experience, and I would have popped one if I had been able to order quick enough. I’m finding it hard to imagine Manfred wouldnt challenge his son to not release a wine that wasn’t at least competitive in its price range?

What didn’t they like?
Another interesting comment indeed. How do you define 'competitive'? Similar to SQN? Or something else?

Wondering if others might have been at that dinner - or if they've had a chance to taste out of barrel, etc - to get a better feel for these wines. I'm sure expectations are quite high for those of you who purchased - and for the rest of us, we are simply curious. So many wines out there these days . . .

Hoping to see more comments once folks start popping these - 650 of these in CT now with only 2 notes . . .

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#157 Post by Robert M yers » March 26th, 2020, 10:45 am

The price is aggressive for a first release, so I think it’s fair to assume that they were banking on the family name lending some baseline of quality. I don’t know If we know how much Manfred was involved, if at all, but would anybody pay the price if we flat out knew he wasn’t? Probably not. Even Lillian didn’t start out this aggressively priced.

Competitive in quality to what else you can get for the price in the region. I wouldn’t be expecting SQN, but it better be fairly special for the asking price. If it wasn’t I’d think his father would be upfront and tell him that you can’t charge that kind of price right out of the gate. Admittedly I’m making assumptions here though.

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#158 Post by Mtolerico » March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm

I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.

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#159 Post by Peter Petersen » March 26th, 2020, 5:40 pm

Antonio Galloni specifically said that these wines are not in the style of SQN, definitely a little more civilized. From what I can tell the grapes do come the same sources as SQN, but I don't know if they are picked at the same time or if the differences are only in the cellar management.
Looking forward to trying them, but I'm not popping one just for myself, so it'll have to wait.

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#160 Post by Robert M yers » March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm

Mtolerico wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm
I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?

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#161 Post by Mtolerico » March 27th, 2020, 6:34 am

Robert M yers wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm
Mtolerico wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm
I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?
Yes, red fruit dominant, violets, earthy (not funky), also some ham/bacon component so the Syrah is coming through as well, at least on the nose.

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#162 Post by Peter Petersen » March 27th, 2020, 8:08 am

Mtolerico wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 6:34 am
Robert M yers wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm
Mtolerico wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm
I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?
Yes, red fruit dominant, violets, earthy (not funky), also some ham/bacon component so the Syrah is coming through as well, at least on the nose.
That sounds very promising. Thanks for taking one for the team.

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#163 Post by Jake Rubash » March 27th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back

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#164 Post by ykwon » March 27th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Jake Rubash wrote:
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Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back
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#165 Post by MikeL238 » March 27th, 2020, 3:03 pm

Jake Rubash wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 1:56 pm
Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back
Looking forward to it!
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#166 Post by Jake Rubash » March 28th, 2020, 8:57 pm

Ok, ok we did the showdown. 2015 Tynan Syrah vs 2017 Faethm Syrah

Tynan:
4hr decant. N. Rhône in style, fresh minerality, gamey and bright red fruit. Everything in balance and nicely integrated. This is built to last but is delicious now with a decently long decant. 95 pts if a score is needed.

Faethm:
4hr double decant, along with a 1hr decant after going back in bottle. I would put this squarely in the Andremily camp for style. Meaty but with loads of dark fruit and impeccably balanced. I suspect this will age well but I think drinking in the next few years with a decant will be my preference. 93 pts if a score is needed.

In this particular showdown the Tynan came out on top. There is a clear advantage with the 2 additional years of bottle time so I don’t know if this outcome will always be the case.

For those of you sitting on your Faethm allocations: I would suggest waiting a year or so and giving a solid decant before trying, I suspect there is more hiding here than we were unable to uncover at the current time. I will continue to be a buyer of the Faethm label going forward based on this experience; for an inaugural release this was exceptional.

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#167 Post by Peter Petersen » March 29th, 2020, 9:46 am

Jake, Thanks for the note. I’d say that your description sounds promising.

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#168 Post by markjchambers » March 29th, 2020, 3:20 pm

I'm happy with Andremily (and SQN) so I passed on Faethm. It would be nice if they did grenache, but their syrah is the best QPR in the SQN family.

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