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#1901 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » September 11th, 2018, 7:07 pm

R. Smith wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 2:22 pm
Siun o'Connell wrote:
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Oh and there's a long ... very long ... video that seems new in which Ray tells his story. Same website.

(and no mention in the site content (not sure about the video) about the Bourbon project)
Has anyone made it through the entire video? I watched the first six minutes and all he did was talk in circles.
And you think Asimov would want to interview him again?

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#1902 Post by David K o l i n » September 11th, 2018, 8:22 pm

Such bullshit
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#1903 Post by Tom Reddick » September 11th, 2018, 9:42 pm

What surprises me is why he keeps rehashing it over and over again. The world of hard spirits has some overlap with wine, but not that much. At a time when he is trying to reach a whole new, and much wider, audience, why even bring up the past at all? He should be out there with an eager smile promoting his new brand and making the most of a fresh start. Dredging up Maison Ilan days can only do him harm at this point.

I did not have the stomach to read through all the blog posts, but the chunks I read would make a great business case study for future entrepreneurs. Ray makes a lot of very bad assumptions about how starting a new business should happen. In his defense, they are common mistakes- and I have seen them made by otherwise very smart and talented people more than once before.
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#1904 Post by scamhi » September 12th, 2018, 6:33 am

Tom Reddick wrote:
September 11th, 2018, 9:42 pm
What surprises me is why he keeps rehashing it over and over again. ...
I did not have the stomach to read through all the blog posts,
Ray has a narcissistic personality disorder— "it is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism" From Mayo Clinic

I couldn't get past 5-6 minutes of that video either. gosh so much rehashing and more rehashing
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#1905 Post by Jörgen Lindström Carlvik » September 12th, 2018, 6:39 am

Gary York wrote:
September 11th, 2018, 7:53 am
The truth part ends, when the blog part starts.
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#1906 Post by Tom Gutting » September 12th, 2018, 7:35 am

Came back to this thread simply because I noticed Ray sent out this tweet -- I wasn't even aware I followed him on Twitter:



So he's still pushing this. What a bizarre state of affairs. Shocking, really.
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#1907 Post by Jorge Henriquez » September 12th, 2018, 7:40 am

“What happen”? What tense is that?
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#1908 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » September 12th, 2018, 7:48 am

What happens at Maison Ilan stays at Maison Ilan?
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#1909 Post by Gary York » September 12th, 2018, 7:50 am

Especially true with the wines.
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#1910 Post by ky1em!ttskus » September 12th, 2018, 8:13 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
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“What happen”? What tense is that?
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#1911 Post by Larry Kaplan » September 12th, 2018, 8:33 am

The last 2 minutes are the best just a chiron screen and Ray saying when he got his computer on cell phone back they we all factory reset... but he gives it "The truth is out there" x files feel just awesome.....
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#1912 Post by Jerry Hey » September 12th, 2018, 10:45 am

Just how many edits can you get in a 40 minute monologue??
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#1913 Post by Wes Barton » September 12th, 2018, 12:57 pm

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Whatever happened to his brother - he was far more interesting and feisty.
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#1914 Post by Claus Jeppesen » September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm

Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
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#1915 Post by Todd F r e n c h » September 12th, 2018, 1:19 pm

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
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#1916 Post by Greg K » September 12th, 2018, 1:25 pm

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
I wasn’t stating it as fact, merely how it was sold. I’m not trying to defend Ray. But I did think that the implication that Asimov needs to somehow set the record clean wasn’t fair - he didn’t cause Ray’s actions.


*Other than being a Times subscriber I have zero connection to the Times or Asimov, for the record.
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#1917 Post by David Mc » September 12th, 2018, 3:10 pm

Tom Gutting wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:35 am
Came back to this thread simply because I noticed Ray sent out this tweet -- I wasn't even aware I followed him on Twitter:



So he's still pushing this. What a bizarre state of affairs. Shocking, really.
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#1918 Post by Brian Gilp » September 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.

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#1919 Post by Michael Bowden » September 12th, 2018, 4:01 pm

Brian Gilp wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.
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#1920 Post by Jim Anderson » September 12th, 2018, 4:25 pm

Brian Gilp wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.
Pretty sure Chris makes the wine. And has for over two decades.
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#1921 Post by Brian Gilp » September 12th, 2018, 5:54 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 4:25 pm
Brian Gilp wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm

I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.
Pretty sure Chris makes the wine. And has for over two decades.
I was thinking before Chris when his dad first started the winery. Also, isn’t Chris French?

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#1922 Post by Todd F r e n c h » September 12th, 2018, 7:01 pm

Brian Gilp wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 5:54 pm
Jim Anderson wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 4:25 pm
Brian Gilp wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm


Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.
Pretty sure Chris makes the wine. And has for over two decades.
I was thinking before Chris when his dad first started the winery. Also, isn’t Chris French?
Chris French? Relative of mine, perhaps?
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#1923 Post by scamhi » September 12th, 2018, 7:47 pm

Tom Gutting wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:35 am
Came back to this thread simply because I noticed Ray sent out this tweet -- I wasn't even aware I followed him on Twitter:



So he's still pushing this. What a bizarre state of affairs. Shocking, really.
Tweet disappeared, what was it?
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#1924 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » September 12th, 2018, 7:48 pm

Greg K wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:25 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
I wasn’t stating it as fact, merely how it was sold. I’m not trying to defend Ray. But I did think that the implication that Asimov needs to somehow set the record clean wasn’t fair - he didn’t cause Ray’s actions.


*Other than being a Times subscriber I have zero connection to the Times or Asimov, for the record.
BS, you’re part of Asimov’s cohort.

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#1925 Post by Greg Pierce » September 12th, 2018, 8:01 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 1:11 pm
I've always wanted to be a cohort.
I can't say I "always" wanted to be a cohort, given that I'm not sure what that is, exactly.

However, I have been accused of being a "minion" -- in legal documents filed in federal and state court.

Is that similar?

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#1926 Post by Todd F r e n c h » September 12th, 2018, 8:18 pm

scamhi wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:47 pm
Tom Gutting wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:35 am
Came back to this thread simply because I noticed Ray sent out this tweet -- I wasn't even aware I followed him on Twitter:



So he's still pushing this. What a bizarre state of affairs. Shocking, really.
Tweet disappeared, what was it?
OMG - he spends all this time tweeting and posting blogs, then taking them down - MAKE UP YOUR MIND
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#1927 Post by Greg K » September 13th, 2018, 12:18 am

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:48 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:25 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm

I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
I wasn’t stating it as fact, merely how it was sold. I’m not trying to defend Ray. But I did think that the implication that Asimov needs to somehow set the record clean wasn’t fair - he didn’t cause Ray’s actions.


*Other than being a Times subscriber I have zero connection to the Times or Asimov, for the record.
BS, you’re part of Asimov’s cohort.
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#1928 Post by Claus Jeppesen » September 13th, 2018, 4:14 am

Greg K wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:25 pm
Claus Jeppesen wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 1:01 pm
Greg K wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 11:50 am
I don’t think the Times cares about being “wrong” here. They wrote up his story as mostly human interest, not as investment/drinking advice. First American to make grand cru burgundy is interesting!
I do not believe this is correct. Neither would Blair Pethel. His Corton Charlemagnes are pretty great. They were made before Ray Walker set foot on Burgundian soil
I wasn’t stating it as fact, merely how it was sold. I’m not trying to defend Ray. But I did think that the implication that Asimov needs to somehow set the record clean wasn’t fair - he didn’t cause Ray’s actions.


*Other than being a Times subscriber I have zero connection to the Times or Asimov, for the record.
I know. But an outsider would maybe take the statement for a fact.
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#1929 Post by Neal.Mollen » September 13th, 2018, 4:34 am

Greg Pierce wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 8:01 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 1:11 pm
I've always wanted to be a cohort.
I can't say I "always" wanted to be a cohort, given that I'm not sure what that is, exactly.

However, I have been accused of being a "minion" -- in legal documents filed in federal and state court.

Is that similar?
Better than "unindicted co-conspirator."
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#1930 Post by Scott Brunson » September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am

Now I'm craving a little taste of Bourbon. Alas, I don't seem to have any... [whistle.gif]
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#1931 Post by Edward H. Earles » September 13th, 2018, 5:40 am

Scott Brunson wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am
Now I'm craving a little taste of Bourbon. Alas, I don't seem to have any... [whistle.gif]
At 7:38 AM?

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#1932 Post by Neal.Mollen » September 13th, 2018, 6:12 am

Edward H. Earles wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:40 am
Scott Brunson wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am
Now I'm craving a little taste of Bourbon. Alas, I don't seem to have any... [whistle.gif]
At 7:38 AM?
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#1933 Post by Jay Miller » September 13th, 2018, 6:57 am

Greg Pierce wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 8:01 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 1:11 pm
I've always wanted to be a cohort.
I can't say I "always" wanted to be a cohort, given that I'm not sure what that is, exactly.

However, I have been accused of being a "minion" -- in legal documents filed in federal and state court.

Is that similar?
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And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold"
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#1934 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » September 13th, 2018, 7:51 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 6:12 am
Edward H. Earles wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:40 am
Scott Brunson wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am
Now I'm craving a little taste of Bourbon. Alas, I don't seem to have any... [whistle.gif]
At 7:38 AM?
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#1935 Post by John Davis » September 13th, 2018, 10:13 am

Edward H. Earles wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:40 am
Scott Brunson wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am
Now I'm craving a little taste of Bourbon. Alas, I don't seem to have any... [whistle.gif]
At 7:38 AM?
Scotch then? [cheers.gif]
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#1936 Post by Mike Grammer » September 13th, 2018, 11:04 am

Jay Miller wrote:
September 13th, 2018, 6:57 am
Greg Pierce wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 8:01 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
September 10th, 2018, 1:11 pm
I've always wanted to be a cohort.
I can't say I "always" wanted to be a cohort, given that I'm not sure what that is, exactly.

However, I have been accused of being a "minion" -- in legal documents filed in federal and state court.

Is that similar?
"The Berserker came down like the wolf on the fold,
And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold"
Jay! That's lovely---what fine poetry!

I thought of Blair and Alex Gambal as well. Just finishing a 14 CC of Blair's--delish. Sorry for the tanjink :)

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#1937 Post by Tom Gutting » September 13th, 2018, 11:56 am

scamhi wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:47 pm
Tom Gutting wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 7:35 am
Came back to this thread simply because I noticed Ray sent out this tweet -- I wasn't even aware I followed him on Twitter:



So he's still pushing this. What a bizarre state of affairs. Shocking, really.
Tweet disappeared, what was it?
Oh strange -- he must have deleted it. He posted a link to the blogs on the Maison Ilan web site. Very strange stuff, all this.
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#1938 Post by Jorge Henriquez » September 14th, 2018, 5:05 am

"What happen" to the twit?
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#1939 Post by billnanson » September 14th, 2018, 6:35 am

No surprise - other than how long he took to do something - which on reflection is also no surprise, I suppose:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/s ... -bloggers/
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#1940 Post by David K o l i n » September 14th, 2018, 6:54 am

billnanson wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:35 am
No surprise - other than how long he took to do something - which on reflection is also no surprise, I suppose:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/s ... -bloggers/
Thanks for the link, Bill. Doubling down on your slander by repeating the facts, eh?
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#1941 Post by Jim Anderson » September 14th, 2018, 7:11 am

Brian Gilp wrote:
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Jim Anderson wrote:
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Wasn’t Domaine Newman even earlier? I know they have GC vineyard holdings but unsure who actually made the wines.
Pretty sure Chris makes the wine. And has for over two decades.
I was thinking before Chris when his dad first started the winery. Also, isn’t Chris French?
He’s from Louisiana.
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#1942 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » September 14th, 2018, 8:00 am

David K o l i n wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:54 am
billnanson wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:35 am
No surprise - other than how long he took to do something - which on reflection is also no surprise, I suppose:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/s ... -bloggers/
Thanks for the link, Bill. Doubling down on your slander by repeating the facts, eh?
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#1943 Post by Todd F r e n c h » September 14th, 2018, 8:16 am

Thanks for posting that, Bill - I forwarded it to Charles Taylor, Myles' father, as I'm sure he'd be interested in Ray's threats.

Amazing he claims that those SITES cause him harm - not his neglect of his business or his failure to satisfy contracts. Always somebody else's fault.
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#1944 Post by Corey N. » September 14th, 2018, 8:38 am

billnanson wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:35 am
No surprise - other than how long he took to do something - which on reflection is also no surprise, I suppose:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/s ... -bloggers/
Random musings...
My name is Ray Walker, and my company’s name is Maison Ilan.
Is Maison Ilan still incorporated? Also...
these blogs have damaged my character as well as business endeavors with statements that are personal attacks and unfounded.
Since Ray likely would be regarded as a public figure (he's not just a random businessman, he's also an author, has been on tv, etc.),to prevail on a defamation claim he would have to show that the author either published information s/he knew to be false or with a reckless disregard for the truth. That's an incredibly high bar, but in any case, Bill's report is incredibly well-documented.

I wonder who the latest flurry of postings is aimed at; certainly he's not going to convince anyone on WB. My hunch is that he's trying to clear his name because he's having some difficulty attracting investors. If memory serves, the bourbon website used to have a link for potential investors, but I didn't see it when I last visited.
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#1945 Post by Jorge Henriquez » September 14th, 2018, 8:45 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 8:16 am
Thanks for posting that, Bill - I forwarded it to Charles Taylor, Myles' father, as I'm sure he'd be interested in Ray's threats.

Amazing he claims that those SITES cause him harm - not his neglect of his business or his failure to satisfy contracts. Always somebody else's fault.
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#1946 Post by Todd F r e n c h » September 14th, 2018, 9:11 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 8:45 am
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 8:16 am
Thanks for posting that, Bill - I forwarded it to Charles Taylor, Myles' father, as I'm sure he'd be interested in Ray's threats.

Amazing he claims that those SITES cause him harm - not his neglect of his business or his failure to satisfy contracts. Always somebody else's fault.
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#1947 Post by Wes Barton » September 14th, 2018, 10:47 am

billnanson wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:35 am
No surprise - other than how long he took to do something - which on reflection is also no surprise, I suppose:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/s ... -bloggers/
That post is insane. Seriously. It's a public post, when there's a clear and easy process to report issues. He offers zero evidence in it to substantiate his claim. One of the two blogs he's claiming are hosted there clearly isn't.

Not a professional, but I've had interactions with people who were in temporary mental states where they were detached from reality. This is what it's like. Dream-like. Yes, we know he's delusional, but we also know he's normally aware and manipulative. With his normal behavior, if he chose to post there, it would be manipulative - perhaps seeded and layered to suit a further purpose.
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#1948 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » September 14th, 2018, 1:03 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 8:16 am
Thanks for posting that, Bill - I forwarded it to Charles Taylor, Myles' father, as I'm sure he'd be interested in Ray's threats.

Amazing he claims that those SITES cause him harm - not his neglect of his business or his failure to satisfy contracts. Always somebody else's fault.
His claims no longer amaze, it’s the same old claims that it’s anyone else’s fault.

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#1949 Post by robert creth » September 15th, 2018, 2:13 pm

Ok I get it now, the world is against him, it’s all about racism and other people’s hatred. He is entirely blameless. He just needs some more time and love.

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#1950 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » September 15th, 2018, 2:44 pm

robert creth wrote:
September 15th, 2018, 2:13 pm
Ok I get it now, the world is against him, it’s all about racism and other people’s hatred. He is entirely blameless. He just needs some more time and love.
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