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came back to the wine a couple hours later and it has tightened up, become more floral and expressive, herbal notes diminished. Nice bottle.

Kris Patten wrote: ↑
June 2nd, 2020, 8:04 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
June 2nd, 2020, 6:09 pm
nice brace of Ramonet wines. Thanks.
Which two were you referring to?

ha—learned something. Thanks.

A slight pleasing herbal note echoes across the nose and palate. Fruit is subtle and in the background with the structure in the foreground, but there’s a nice interplay of balance between the two. No hint of premox, it’s as it should be. Very pretty wine, even elegant.

nice brace of Ramonet wines. Thanks.

Ramon C wrote: ↑
June 1st, 2020, 5:50 am
TN: 2002 Hudelot-Noellat Chambolle-Musigny
5/29/2020

countryside dung

preferable to suburban or city?

D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
June 1st, 2020, 4:15 pm
I only have the 2002 Fiacre left. The 1996 started to decline a while ago, becoming quite variable. Some bottles were delicious, and others DOA, with all from the same high quality source.

hope it’s a real mother Fiacre of a great wine.

Will Clements wrote: ↑
May 29th, 2020, 6:43 pm
I’m off by at least 600 bottles.

just a rounding error, no problem.

Bad month for this thread. Bought 31, 4 being magnums. Drank 22 and gave away a magnum and a bottle, so 24, a near consumption record, Covid to blame.

c fu wrote: ↑
May 31st, 2020, 9:14 pm
dude. at the 2011 tasting the chevalier monty was the WOTN! Fred and I have been buying ever since

now you tell me.

why didn’t I know this producer earlier? Found these bottles recently but only have some recent vintages since I’m new to Moreau. This wine punches well above its weight. Beautiful floral and citrus bouquet, but the mouthfeel is amazing, like liquid mercury, thick and dense while lithe and graceful....

Andrew M wrote: ↑
May 31st, 2020, 3:40 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 31st, 2020, 3:11 pm
2001 La Rioja 904 Gran Riserva was oaky cherry juice last week.
Go on. I have three but opened none. Hope for the future?

I’m no expert, usually love Rioja. Fortunately it was my only bottle.

2001 La Rioja 904 Gran Riserva was oaky cherry juice last week.

Michael S. Monie wrote: ↑
May 31st, 2020, 11:42 am

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 31st, 2020, 10:34 am
the effort--and pride--at being the best at even menial tasks is something to cherish and emulate. Great thread. Great culture.
It's been part of their culture for a long time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sen_no_Rikyū

yes, a Tokyo visit last year greatly impressed me.

. . . although labels go on last and wine is often in bottle bins for years before labeled. Who knows?

the effort--and pride--at being the best at even menial tasks is something to cherish and emulate. Great thread. Great culture.

how'd it end up?

Thanks for reading everyone. Kent and Brian, I agree, I have bought much more St Aubin in the last several years than any other Cote d' Or whites. Terrific, serious wines at a relative bargain. Alan, I have little doubt you would like these. Burgundy is your Colin card. I'll Marc that down, Todd.

Sincere sympathies, but what a run!

how many people? How many bottles of each? What kind of crowd? I'd just pop and pour the 3 Napa wines and look at them from young to old. Decant. Your palate will improve as the pallet of wines you taste enlarges and your palette of experience increases.

And all this from a wine from a difficult vintage. I have seen the vintage describesd as "Difficult year, heavy rainfall; very edgy wines". This vineyard is on the south side of Donau (in Mautern) facing north - so it is slightly cooler than vineyards on the northern side of Donau, like the vineyar...

I was thinking, "yes, 10 years ago," then noticed the OP started this thread in 2013. Not sure I can now agree. I don't know any Burgundy vineyards that are undervalued, certain producers, yes, but not the vineyards overall. I think most are fairly valued or even overvalued. Look at Domaine des Perd...

sounds like I’d be happy with either.

Happy birthday.

La bouteille de Dauvissat qui m’a réveillé était 1990 Clos. Je n’ai jamais bu Vaillons—je dois changer cette situation

when I see 18 Chablis for sale, I reach back and buy more 17. But thanks for the note.

Interesting. This was a hard tannic unfriendly vintage even 20 years post. Nice to see a good note.

I quit Droin after some fabulous 96 bottles premoxed, all but Vaudesir. A buddy lured me back last year with some recent bottlings.

Andrew K. wrote: ↑
May 28th, 2020, 8:17 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 28th, 2020, 8:11 pm
you’re on this thread quite often.
We can't all have stocked up on enough 90 and 99 DRC to last us until the next ice age.

in my dreams. But the curse is, the wife says it’s too expensive to drink!

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
May 28th, 2020, 5:19 pm
2009 Lambrays

you’re on this thread quite often.

"Caymus Owner Chuck Wagner Sues California over Tasting Room Closures Napa veteran calls it unfair that wineries serving food can open tasting rooms while others—including all Napa wineries—cannot" Why doesn't Caymus just get a toaster oven, serve some Hot Pockets and call it good?? champagne.gif t...

B. Buzzini wrote: ↑
May 28th, 2020, 8:44 am

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2020, 7:19 am
very descriptive indeed! Great wines out of Austria.
You were my pusher! Seems these can age quite well?

they soften but age quite well.

The Trustee filed its first interim report on May 5. Priority claims asserted for consumer deposits (e.g., wine) will be paid at 30%, which is better than I expected when this whole mess began. But the Trustee is retaining $4,561,649.42 for "continued litigation for avoidance actions, the recovery ...

good story. Lots of memories for her.

very descriptive indeed! Great wines out of Austria.

Parker’s original 1993 red Burg ratings, revised upward years later by Rovani, were 67 Cote de Beaune and 73 Cote de Nuits.

there’s only a dilemma if you are buying just one bottle. If buying multiple, split the purchase between the two.

Andrew K. wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2020, 7:37 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2020, 7:35 pm
18 Vogüé Musigny
Nice how many did you get? I just got a 3 pack. Hope it will be ready to drink for my 80th.

only if you are 30 now.

So Sarah, after this discussion and so many good ideas, do you have a plan? Who said I was looking for one? Certainly not me! :) As I have said up-thread - I wasn't asking for advice. My question was about what others have experienced. No where in the OP or after have I asked for any "help" dealing...

1996 was a great great white Burgundy vintage. And it fell apart. The great wines were amazing, some of the best white Burgs in my experience. And premox came like the grim reaper, destroying so many wines. I’ve kept a few. Opened one tonight—Preuses from Dauvissat, not immune to the pox. But this b...

I don’t remember.

93 red Burgundies.

Diebolt-Vallois brut Cramant champagne blend rosé. Solid but not awesome.

Supremely disappointed USAA can’t do a wine rider on top of our homeowners policy. Love having them for home, car, jewelry and umbrella coverage. been with USAA for decades. Irritated that they stopped earthquake coverage in California. With our new house they pushed us to Pure and wouldn’t cover u...

great title.

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2020, 6:17 pm

Andrew K. wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2020, 5:28 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2020, 5:23 pm
First bottle has it for 139/pop
Ouch. I paid $45.
For morgeot

only 3 b

very cool.

I’ve been on a mini Ramonet rampage recently; 2014 ramped up my interest and 2017 is now arriving. Pricing, as Tom opined, is insane and grand crus are now outside my reach. The relatively new Clos du Cailleret is an awesome wine. They’ve reached into St. Aubin and there are other new offerings. The...

update.

map is cool—B. Colin sure has a sliver—must be one row of vines! Leflaive wraps around 3 sides of Niellon, which shows why she’d get so easily mad when he sprayed insecticides in his vines and cross contaminated her organic vines.

Jeremy Holmes wrote: ↑
May 24th, 2020, 9:55 pm
Density is much more Haute.

Lamy get some experience with that bottle . . .

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